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mighty_scoop
July 30th, 2008, 07:52 PM
Hi together,

after public incitement from Llama to make a new thread and start a newbie game by myself ... here we go http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

So who want to play with me in my first mp game ? I would prefer bloody newbies http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/confused.gif like me but everybody is welcome

Settings will be :

Early Age
version 3.17
Parganos_llama Map ( found here : paragones_llama (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=628800&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) )
Mods: CBM 1.3
9 players
game settings: default

It's going to be called MoltenUniverse

Players so far:

mighty_scoop : Kailasa
DakaSha : Ulm
rtyffg : Pangaea
RadioGibbon : Ermor
Executor : Hinnom
Apsophos : Abysia
don_Pablo : Caelum
Eldanesh : R'lyeh
GrudgeBringer : Arcoscephale

Executor
July 30th, 2008, 09:18 PM
Niefelheim.

Executor
July 30th, 2008, 09:30 PM
Ohh, Niefenheim is much weaker in CBM, I wanted to play niefelheim but not in this mod, on second thought I'm out.

Revolution
July 30th, 2008, 10:20 PM
I don't want to join...but I will say that Kyuss rocks.

quantum_mechani
July 31st, 2008, 12:12 AM
Executor said:
Ohh, Niefenheim is much weaker in CBM, I wanted to play niefelheim but not in this mod, on second thought I'm out.

You might have played an older version. There was a bug that made niefel giants non-sacred, that is gone.

DakaSha
July 31st, 2008, 12:54 AM
ooooooooooh im in. I play teh Ulm

rtyffg
July 31st, 2008, 04:40 AM
CBM game? I'd like to take Pangaea.

mighty_scoop
July 31st, 2008, 05:01 AM
Revolution said:
I don't want to join...but I will say that Kyuss rocks.



Kuyss, King of the Stone age and Pretender of Kailasa will rule them all :-)

edit: Perhaps ( probably ) not in this game but somewhere along the way

mighty_scoop
July 31st, 2008, 05:49 AM
Would it be better to play a vanilla game ? I looked around (here in the mp forum) and noticed that most games are cbm games, so i decided to use it too.

@Executor ... still out with the new cbm version ?

llamabeast
July 31st, 2008, 06:41 AM
I recommend PMing Executor, as he's unlikely to read the thread again having dropped out.

I'd say about one third of games use CBM. There's a lot to be said for it though, and the proportion is increasing.

DakaSha
July 31st, 2008, 07:44 AM
well if u want to change to vanilla im out but i can always open a new game so no big deal ^^

GrudgeBringer
July 31st, 2008, 07:54 AM
I'm IN....Give me Arcoscephale I like CBM also but will play other, need to know tho as I might want to change race if not CBM. GrudgeBringer

GrudgeBringer
July 31st, 2008, 07:54 AM
Also WHAT MAP?

mighty_scoop
July 31st, 2008, 08:16 AM
mighty_scoop said:

Settings will be :

Early Age
version 3.17
Paraganos Map
Mods: CBM 1.3
8 players
game settings: default





Paraganos Map

mighty_scoop
July 31st, 2008, 08:20 AM
I will stay with CBM ... as a newbie i don't really have a clue which settings or mods to use ... after random clicking some forum games here i decided that CBM would be a good choice ... so be it ;-)

llamabeast
July 31st, 2008, 08:28 AM
Yeah, I think your choices of settings are all good.

Another suggestion I might suggest would be to use a version of Parganos I made which has "dead seas", i.e. you can conquer the seas as normal, but they give no income or gems. This is quite good I think as it basically makes it a pure land game, with the seas as strategic obstacles. Completely up to you though of course.

My parganos version is here: http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=628800&page=0&view=collap sed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1

mighty_scoop
July 31st, 2008, 08:30 AM
Sounds good ... so a question to the so far involved players ... want to use that map ? ... If yes i will change it in the settings, if someone don't want it, we will use the standard one.

Thx llamabeast

RadioGibbon
July 31st, 2008, 09:16 AM
Would like to play as Ermor please.

(And no objections to the map).

Executor
July 31st, 2008, 09:48 AM
I gave it some thought, Neifel giants have reduced cold effect so I'll take Hinnom.

Apsophos
July 31st, 2008, 10:28 AM
I would like to join as Abysia.

Also, no objection to the map.

Executor
July 31st, 2008, 03:05 PM
I too agree with the map,
Maybe we could use the worthy heroes mod, just a thought no objection either way.

quantum_mechani
July 31st, 2008, 03:15 PM
CB 1.3 includes worthy heroes.

Executor
July 31st, 2008, 03:55 PM
Ohh, my apology's, never played CBM, looking at readme now and there are some thing I dislike with Hinnom in CBM but there are many more thing that are really really good, example blood magic.

DakaSha
July 31st, 2008, 06:30 PM
im against the new map but would still gladly play if u guys want to use it

mighty_scoop
July 31st, 2008, 07:34 PM
DakaSha said:
im against the new map but would still gladly play if u guys want to use it



ok ... we will stay at the standard Parganos map then ...

but still 2 players needed :-( ... no more newbies around here ?

DakaSha
July 31st, 2008, 09:00 PM
dude seriously if people want to use the other one thats fine. il still play. i just prefer the original but both are fine

GrudgeBringer
July 31st, 2008, 09:19 PM
I will stay with Arco (new map is good with me)

don_Pablo
August 1st, 2008, 12:43 AM
sign me as caelum

llamabeast
August 1st, 2008, 07:21 AM
Whether you use dead seas or not, I would definitely use one of the parganos_llama maps. The base Parganos map is pretty unbalanced - it always ends up with one player having nothing but swamps, and another nothing but farmland.

Good to see this game is filling up fast. Only one to go I think!

mighty_scoop
August 1st, 2008, 07:45 AM
Ok ... as a trade of we will use the llama paraganos map but without dead seas ...

but still 1 player missing !!!

mighty_scoop
August 1st, 2008, 02:33 PM
No one else want to play in MoltenUniverse ?!?

There must be for sure someone ...
- too shy to register for this game -> have the heart to do it !
or
-not sure if his/her partner allows it -> remember ... your partner is happy when you are happy (playing dom3) ;-)
or
- without enough free time to play -> free time is something YOU can arrange
or
- without the right motivation to start a time intense game -> once in you won't regret it

Eldanesh
August 1st, 2008, 05:02 PM
Finally got the game,. I will play, could I have more ifnormation, I have not played- in a while.

Executor
August 1st, 2008, 05:30 PM
What information do you need exactly?
So far you just need to pick a nation not already chosen, and then send in your pretender so the game can start and I can kill everybody and win of course!
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
Seriously what do you need to know?
And mighty_scoop, when do we start sending pretenders?

Eldanesh
August 1st, 2008, 05:33 PM
Right, I will try to pick a pretender/nation within eh hour.

quantum_mechani
August 1st, 2008, 05:40 PM
Don't forget- pretenders need to be made with CB on if you want to be 100% sure they will work in a CB game.

Eldanesh
August 1st, 2008, 05:57 PM
You're going to have to remind me what CB is. I can't seem to remember.

quantum_mechani
August 1st, 2008, 06:11 PM
Balance mod in use for this game: find it here (http://www.shrapnelcommunity.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=d3smm&Number=624209&page=0 &view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1) .

Eldanesh
August 1st, 2008, 06:16 PM
Just got it, do I simply extract it to dom3 folder?

RadioGibbon
August 1st, 2008, 06:19 PM
Extract in the "Mods" folder, then enable the CBM mod in the preferences selection of the game menu.

Executor
August 1st, 2008, 06:33 PM
When you're done with nation selection go to game tools and create a pretender ( keep in mind that you need to have CBM active as radiogibbon said )
Then send your pretender, when the game is set up.
The pretender is located in savegame/newlords,
it should say early_your nation_0.2 file just send that and put the game name in subject, that's about it I think!

Eldanesh
August 1st, 2008, 06:37 PM
Thanks for the revision, I'm trying to pick a faction right now.

Eldanesh
August 1st, 2008, 06:56 PM
I Guess I'll fulfill the mandatory Water nation and play Ryl'eh

DakaSha
August 1st, 2008, 06:59 PM
oh noes!!!!

mighty_scoop
August 2nd, 2008, 06:47 AM
Great ... the 8th player ... but we have a little prob with the chosen nation. The map we want to play has 8 starting points for non-water nations and 1 for water nations ...

should we now wait for another player :-( ... hope that Eldanesh would also play a non-water nation or start it anyway ?

Eldanesh
August 2nd, 2008, 08:26 AM
I know where it is, I'm looking for a challenge here.I normally don't play EA so I might as well play a magic nation.
Start it anyway, but I'm gone for today so you won't get my upload till Sunday.

mighty_scoop
August 2nd, 2008, 03:20 PM
ok ... game is created ... i didn't used the fixed starting points version, so it doesn't matter if with water nation or without ...

now Gentleman ... upload your pretenders !

here is the Howto from llamaserver faq :

- Make sure you have the same mods enabled as the game you're playing in (Preferences->Mod Preferences) although only mods affecting pretender design, such as Conceptual Balance, actually matter
- Go to Game Tools -> Create a pretender god in Dominions. Don't set a password, since for PBEM games they're not helpful and occasionally annoying (e.g. if you need a sub)
- Go to the savedgames/newlords folder in the dominions directory, and find your pretender file (e.g. mid_pythium_0.2h)
- E-mail the file to: pretenders[ at ]llamaserver[ dot ]net
- Crucially, you must have the game name in the subject line of your e-mail

A few minutes later you should get a confirmation e-mail, and if you check the website you should find your nation added to the list of nations which have joined the game.

If later you think of an improvement to your pretender, you can send it in again. Provided the game hasn't actually started the server will accept your revised pretender, and send you an e-mail to say so.


ooooh great ... my first mp game is coming closer :-)

GrudgeBringer
August 3rd, 2008, 06:41 PM
Is there areason I was left out of this game?

I thought I had indicated I was 'IN' very early...

If you just missed it then NP but if not then why would I be excluded as I can assure you I am a NOOOOOB

DakaSha
August 3rd, 2008, 06:55 PM
ok pretender sent

DakaSha
August 3rd, 2008, 06:59 PM
wait so which map are we using? llama's map - dead seas? llamas map - non dead seas? vanilla?

mighty_scoop
August 3rd, 2008, 07:26 PM
@GrudgeBringer .... i'm very sorry. I forgot to add you to the player list ... but, with you back in the game it is perfect ... so we can use llama's map with fixed starting positions ( 8 land and 1 sea ) !!! Excellent ... i added you to the thread and altered the game settings

@DakaSha ... as mentioned to GrudgeBringe we will use the llama's map with fixed position and without dead seas ( guess that would be unfair Ryl'eh in game )

sorry for all the trouble

edit : here is the link to the game setting page MoltenUniverse (http://www.llamaserver.net/pretAdmin.cgi?game=MoltenUniverse)

Eldanesh
August 3rd, 2008, 07:46 PM
Submitted and received.

don_Pablo
August 4th, 2008, 02:11 AM
I'm in.
Good luck.

GrudgeBringer
August 4th, 2008, 07:52 AM
Its 5:50 AM CST Pretender sent in and confirmation received.

It doesn't show yet on your site but its there....

Thanks for waiting and good hunting to all.

llamabeast
August 4th, 2008, 08:03 AM
Game started! Have fun everyone.

Hopefully it should be fairly self-explanatory how to take your turns, but if you're not sure check out my FAQ.

mighty_scoop
August 4th, 2008, 08:49 AM
llamabeast said:
Game started! Have fun everyone.
...



wanted to say the same ... i will for sure greatly enjoy it ... hope you will do the same !

Executor
August 4th, 2008, 09:50 AM
Let me be the first to say... I don't like my starting position, but whatcha gonna do...
Game on! and may the best nation, Hinnom, win!!!

DakaSha
August 4th, 2008, 02:47 PM
whoops. seems i was the one holding things up ^^
anyways i played my first turn and the game has officially started ^^

DakaSha
August 5th, 2008, 06:40 PM
well it seems hinnom is already tearing up the place. even though they dont like their starting position. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

Executor
August 5th, 2008, 06:45 PM
Imagine if only I started in a better place!

DakaSha
August 5th, 2008, 06:47 PM
hinnoms starting army is unbalanced im not giving u props ^^

Executor
August 5th, 2008, 07:13 PM
It's not what you have, it's how you use it...
But really you couldn't be more correct.
So what you're saying is to back up a little before everybody gangs up on me, which is quite possible with my starting place.

DakaSha
August 5th, 2008, 07:20 PM
doublepost sorry

DakaSha
August 5th, 2008, 07:20 PM
what im doing is giving everybody a heads up ^^

im not SAYING gang up on u. im just telling people to watch u http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif

dont need some nation winning on turn 20 ^^

i mean for all i know ur doing me a favor with ur current strength. game is still in its infancy ^^

DakaSha
August 6th, 2008, 12:42 AM
i urge people to keep a lookout for PM's as its a faster mode of communication than the in game messangers

DakaSha
August 6th, 2008, 06:22 AM
Let it be known that the nations of Abysia and Ulm have signed a non-aggression pact.

mighty_scoop
August 6th, 2008, 09:42 AM
Looks like Hinnon eats everything :-)

my monkeys are so far a bit ... behind ... getting a curse event in the second turn with unrest resulting in lost income ( and all with luck 3 !) was not really helpful

DakaSha
August 12th, 2008, 04:17 PM
The nations of MoltenUniverse should be aware that I, Adolf, God of Ulm lead a vassalship with Abyssia.

(is vassalship a word? :P )

and again:

please check your pm's as its the main way i communicate. the in game message system is almost useless :P

Executor
August 14th, 2008, 05:50 PM
I would ask to extend the turn a little, till I find a permanent sub. I can't continue this game don't have time any more.
I ask for 24 hours, If I don't find a sub I'll turn to AI.

mighty_scoop
August 14th, 2008, 06:47 PM
Ok ... turn has been extended by 24h ... hope we will find a sub

mighty_scoop
August 14th, 2008, 06:52 PM
btw ...

Let me be the first to say... I don't like my starting position, but whatcha gonna do...
Game on! and may the best nation, Hinnom, win!!!

EA game, nation Hinnom, very good place, 1st in income, forts, provinces, strong scales. Peace with all surrounding nation, war with Pangaea.

:D

Executor
August 15th, 2008, 02:18 PM
It's a shame to give up this strong a nation to AI, but that's what I'll do since no1 want's to take this game!
I've set to AI, sorry for the hold up people, ohh and one question if someone knows, can I send all my gems to a nation and in the same turn turn to AI, I mean will the person get then and then turned to AI, or does it have to be done in two separate turns?

DakaSha
August 15th, 2008, 06:15 PM
erm wouldnt that be pretty messed up? i dont see why u have to unbalance the game just because your quitting. its already bad enough that ur quitting

DakaSha
August 15th, 2008, 06:26 PM
i really think this game should be postponed until a sub is found. this going to completly f*** up the whole game and i didntplay this for over a week for nothing

GrudgeBringer
August 15th, 2008, 06:28 PM
I noww if you didn't have other obligations that you would be fighting till the last dog is hung....

Good Luck, and we will get along as this isn't the first game that someone went AI in a game nor will it be the last one.

I enjoyed playing with you and look forward to seeing you later in the fall when you get more time:D

DakaSha
August 15th, 2008, 07:02 PM
btw if i sound pissed its because.. well i am :P
but its not personally directed towards u executor. if u got to go u gotta go.

but i do think a sub should be found as i mentioned. (and it seems we might have one) i just hope u or the admin get here in time ^^)

Executor
August 15th, 2008, 08:41 PM
Looks like Revolution maybe taking over!
Mighty_scoop I told him to PM you so you can switch the address

Revolution
August 16th, 2008, 10:10 AM
I have now taken over the forces of Hinnom, please direct your bribes and offers of submission to me.

Revolution
August 17th, 2008, 12:04 PM
Bah, silly stale. I left it too late and then when I realized hosting was about to go I found out that I did not have the correct map version...and then I found that the link to the map was dead. I've got it now, but was a little too late to take my turn. Ahhh well, this will make things a bit more challenging.

GrudgeBringer
August 17th, 2008, 10:59 PM
I have had a private conversation with Revolution who is taking Executor's Place.

First WELCOME and THANK YOU for joining (thats the good)

The bad is Executor and I had just broke off our Nap a few turns ago.

In the intrest of fairness I gave Revouloution 2 more turns to get his affairs in order then I was going to attack. He is free to attack me first without warning before those 2 turns if he wishes without being considered the aggressor.

This was turn 1 (Sunday 18th 10 PM CST)

GrudgeBringer:eek:

RadioGibbon
August 20th, 2008, 04:19 PM
Hey all, I'll be away this weekend (Leave early saturday back late Monday).

Would it be possible to call a break for a while?

If not I'll happily stale for a couple of turns.

mighty_scoop
August 20th, 2008, 05:36 PM
@RadioGibbon ... sure

@all others ... we have turn 22 ... should i increase the hosting time to 48 h now ?

RadioGibbon
August 21st, 2008, 12:32 PM
Thanks Mighty_scoop.

I'm not having any trouble getting my turns done, but then I'm not doing anything else at the moment.

GrudgeBringer
August 21st, 2008, 10:38 PM
I'm in 5 games and seem to be ok for the present...keep spittin them turns out guys...I have wars to lose!!:eek:

mighty_scoop
August 25th, 2008, 06:43 PM
First one out of the game !! Adolf (leader of Ulm) was beaten by some apes (propably not really true ... but it sounds good :->) ...

Hinnon still eating everything !

DakaSha
August 25th, 2008, 07:17 PM
no u didnt beat me... i attacked ermor.. which i probably would have defeated and suddenly you and pangaea attack me lol

i think i could have staved both of you off a few turns but would have lost in the end

RadioGibbon
August 27th, 2008, 10:42 AM
Bad News,

Theres some building work going on, and I've just realised my alternate PC location won't be able to connect to the internet. I've had to switch to AI as this is the last time I'll be able to get on the net for about 10 days.

Sorry Guys :(

Eldanesh
September 3rd, 2008, 06:13 AM
He, I;m having a problem. The game is crashing when I click on Molten Universe and saying I need an update but if I've been playing this game I'm assuming that's not right.


EDIT:Oops, I guess there is one! That being said, back in dominions 2 if you were in the middle of the game you could not change versions, can I change my version and still play now?

Revolution
September 3rd, 2008, 06:47 PM
He, I;m having a problem. The game is crashing when I click on Molten Universe and saying I need an update but if I've been playing this game I'm assuming that's not right.


EDIT:Oops, I guess there is one! That being said, back in dominions 2 if you were in the middle of the game you could not change versions, can I change my version and still play now?

Yes, yes you can and you will have to.

rtyffg
September 15th, 2008, 11:29 PM
I seem to have a problem. Llamaserver refuses to accept my last turn, saying, that i must send a turn for Machaka.

Revolution
September 23rd, 2008, 06:36 PM
Hinnom wants YOU! ...or rather your water mages to make me some frost brands...and your fire mages to make me some fire brands and charcoal shields...also some nature gems would be nice, a death booster would be swell as would a fire booster.
If you can provide some of these items then let me know and we can work something out.

Revolution
November 6th, 2008, 12:27 PM
It is rather unfortunate that I had an SC focus instead of an Evocation focus when you first attacked me Pangea.

WingedDog
November 7th, 2008, 04:31 AM
Be thee rejoiced! Blow thy horns, hierophants, feed the Earth with flesh and blood of manfools, dance thee in gladness and thriumphs, for The One and True Woodsie Lord bes awakened!
I bes the milk, the honey and the jacksberry thee eat and I bes the leaf that feeders on the fleshed ones!
Tremble, giant-things, for I come for thee! Thee builds thy walls of dead stone, thee builds thy roof of dead trees, so me builds mine servants of thy dead bones!

P.S. I'm not crazy. :) rtyffg is away 8-16 November, so I'm here to temporary replace Pangea in he's righteous cause of bringing the green hell to the planet.

rtyffg
November 7th, 2008, 05:07 AM
I'm really going to be away, so, please change Pangaean e-mail to that of the WingedDog.

mighty_scoop
November 7th, 2008, 11:38 AM
Email has been changed for Pangea ... hello WingedDog ... enjoy your short trip to the MoltenUniverse

WingedDog
November 8th, 2008, 10:07 AM
Thank you for the warm welcoming. :)

Now the anouncement:
Pangea buys death gems and astral pearls, can offer nature and earth gems 1:1, crafting magic items, or 20 gold for each gem. Contact me via PM.

WingedDog
November 10th, 2008, 01:07 PM
Do not forget to patch the game before sending next turn. Here's the link:
http://download.shrapnelgames.com/downloads/dompatch321.exe

Revolution
November 16th, 2008, 07:16 PM
Thanks for the game everyone, Pangea wisely decided to dominion kill me instead of testing out my meatgrinder anymore. Even with my god out and about, my prophet and other priests preaching, and priests blood sacrificing I could not hold back his dominion.

don_Pablo
November 20th, 2008, 12:16 PM
2Revolution: Thanks for playing!

2 mighty_scoop: i request to postpone hosting by 24h and to change hosting interval to 72h

mighty_scoop
November 21st, 2008, 08:03 AM
2Revolution: Thanks for playing!

2 mighty_scoop: i request to postpone hosting by 24h and to change hosting interval to 72h

yes ... thanks Revolution for playing .... cu in another game

what do the other think about changing the interval to 72h ?

PS: postponed the hosting by 24h until sunday 20:00

don_Pablo
February 9th, 2009, 12:02 PM
It seems the game should be declared finished.

My congratulations to rtyffg! :)

mighty_scoop
February 9th, 2009, 04:00 PM
Hell yeah ... what a cool game ;-) Grats rtyffg for kicking me out ... saw it coming since 4 turns but i just wasn't able to stop your dominion force ...
Guess it will be ok for you too if i declare the game finished

Thx to everyone participating in this game ... you made my first game a very good experience and a lot of fun

rtyffg
February 10th, 2009, 12:38 AM
Since other players decide game finished, i agree.

A seemengly strange ending, blood sacrifice was planned as a last chance, when Caelum eat all my thugs and mostt armyes.