Collider - Small Late Age Game (running)

[AreaOfEffect]

Vanilla late game. Any experience level. Ermor allowed. Playing on llamaserver (http://www.llamaserver.net/index.cgi). (Cause it's easy.) Help me obtain data for my next Guide.

Age: Late
Mods: None
Map: Parganos (Llama's Fix, dead seas, 8 land starts) (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=39857&highlight=parganos)
Players: 8 (Land only)

Renaming: Allowed
Graphs: Off
All Other Settings: Default

Nation/Player Update:
Argatha......:GrudgeBringer (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=10051) :hurt:
Atlantis.....:ghurk (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=12643), meister_miagi (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=9714) :dagger::computer:
Bogarus......:crust (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=10413) :hurt:
Ermor........:Ossa (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=9937) :hurt:
Man..........:AreaOfEffect (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=9867) :dagger::dagger::dagger::trophy:
Marignon.....:Lingchih (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=6151) :computer:
Mictlan......:vfb (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=8915) :dagger::dagger::computer:
Ulm..........:lwarmonger (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=9523)

:trophy:: Game Winner
:hurt:: Eliminated
:dagger:: Player Kill
:computer:: AI Controlled

Lammaserver Game Page >> (http://www.llamaserver.net/index.cgi)

[coobe]

i would like to join as Abysia

[Ossa]

I'd like to try out Ermor then.

[lwarmonger]

I would like to play Ulm if you don't mind.

[Lingchih]

Pythium.

[vfb]

Mictlan please.

[Crust]

Bogarus!

[meister_miagi]

I'll take Atlantis.

[Starshine_Monarch]

Marignon for me

[AreaOfEffect]

My apologies Starshine, but I included myself in the mix. So there wasn't any space left when you posted. Your next in line though if someone suddenly drops. Thanks.

The Game page is already up. Start loading your pretenders.

[llamabeast]

Wow, all filled up in 14 hours. Nice.

Incidentally you seem to have more than 8 players listed in the first post.

[AreaOfEffect]

Indeed , I addressed that in my most recent post. I hope to do battle with/against Starshine_Monarch in the future.

The especially good news is not only is the game full up in such a short time, but half of the pretenders are also ready to go.

[Lingchih]

Please go ahead and tell Starshine that he can play. I'll drop... you need a Marignon in this game more than you need a Pythium.

Good luck to you all.

[AreaOfEffect]

Understood.

Pimpin Referance: Good luck with Ermor, and stop getting flanked by Argatha.

[coobe]

i think i have to drop too :( sorry

[GrudgeBringer]

I'll take sauro if you want another

[vfb]

I'll take sauro if you want another

We'd be happy to have you join, but it's a late era game, there is no sauro.

[AreaOfEffect]

Your options are as followes:

Arcoscephale, Sibylline Guidence
T'ien Ch'i, Barbarian Kings
Jonom, Human Daimyos
Argatha, Ktonian Dead
Abysia, Blood of Humans
Caelum, Return of the Raptors
C'tis, Deasert Tombs
Pangaea, New Era
Midgard, Age of Men
Utgard, well of Urd
Patela, Reign of the Nagas
Gath, Last of the Giants
Pythium, Serpent Cult

[GrudgeBringer]

OK (sigh) I knew that. I'll take Argatha

[GrudgeBringer]

If thats OK I will have pretender in tonight

[AreaOfEffect]

That's Okay.

I haven't heard back from Starshine and I sent him a private message yesterday. I will not assume that he's still playing if we here nothing from him by the time Grudge submits his pretender.

[GrudgeBringer]

I will assume I am in and will have my Pretender in by 9 pm CST

[Lingchih]

You guys need Marignon. Sorry to but in.

[vfb]

Lingchih, are you offering to play Marignon if Starshine_Monarch doesn't? Please? :)

[Lingchih]

yes, if I must. give me a day to make a build. I'll work on one tonite.

[Lingchih]

OK, count me in if Starshine doesn't show up. I'll play Mari. Killer Build.

Just tell me if I am in, and will upload the pretender.

[AreaOfEffect]

You're in.

[lwarmonger]

Hey all, I'm on the American West Coast, and I will be gone for a slightly longer than 24 hour period between Saturday at noon local time (approximately 13 hours from this post), until Sunday approximately 1500 (perhaps a little later). After that I shouldn't really have problems making it, but are we looking at 24 hour or 48 hour turns here?

[AreaOfEffect]

Okay. Can't complain cause I've seen games take much much longer to start.

[Lingchih]

Ahh, sorry, forgot to check this post. I'll send in a pretender tonite.

[Lingchih]

Late Marignon pretender sent. Good game everybody.

[Lingchih]

Turn 1 is in dogs. Get those turns done.

[vfb]

May you all ripen into ears of corn and sprout corn tassels.

[Lingchih]

My first ever blind first turn attack. It went badly, as I have always assumed it would.

[GrudgeBringer]

If I wait...they are always easy!!

If I attack Blind....they kick my butt EVERYTIME.

I wonder sometimes if the Devs set it up like that...:doh:

[AreaOfEffect]

Information is the source of much success. A lack of knowledge is the source of much calamity. Even with an awake SC god, I always wait till turn two for attacks.

[vfb]

Hunter says, "It is better to live one day as a jaguar than a hundred years as a bare-eared squirrel monkey."

Mictlan respects Kali's bravado and touch of derring-do.

[lwarmonger]

Hunter says, "It is better to live one day as a jaguar than a hundred years as a bare-eared squirrel monkey."

Mictlan respects Kali's bravado and touch of derring-do.

I am assuming that Mictlan respects Marignion's bravado without emulating it? ;)

[vfb]

Well, first we need to get ourselves some jaguars. Right now all we've got is a couple of squirrel monkeys and some sheep.

[Lingchih]

Ahh, yes, much better. So helpful to actually see your enemies before you attack them. But many veterans always attack blind the first turn. I will not be one of those though, in the future.

[vfb]

Hunter, prophet of Zetacosta, has heard it said, "Life is not separate from death. The only ones who really know what it is are those who have gone over."

But he has also heard it said, "The check is in the mail."

[vfb]

There is a new flag flying on Mictlan's southern border, and the color of that flag is red. We do not negotiate with zombies!

Now, if anyone's got a six-demon bag Mictlan could borrow for a month or two, that would be really frikkin' fantastic.

[Lingchih]

Greetings Ulm, Greeting Bogarus (sorry about that little mishap), Greetings Man. We wish all our neighbors well, and mean none of you any harm. We are here for one purpose, and though we did not get a border with Ermor, we have no doubt that they will make it this way eventually. We await them.

The Council of Marignon

[lwarmonger]

Greetings Ulm, Greeting Bogarus (sorry about that little mishap), Greetings Man. We wish all our neighbors well, and mean none of you any harm. We are here for one purpose, and though we did not get a border with Ermor, we have no doubt that they will make it this way eventually. We await them.

The Council of Marignon

Agreed... the Chancellor of Ulm wishes to express greetings and good will to all the nations of mankind.

[AreaOfEffect]

Lingchih really hates Ermor. You can say he has a score to settle.

Greetings Bogarus.

[Lingchih]

Hmm. Just noticed. The ocean provs are Pop O now. (guess that's what Dead Seas means). This seems rather odd. What is the reason for this?

Forgive me. I am in 4 games now, one of which is taking up 90% of my attention. So I might miss a few things here and there in this game.

I assume you can still find sites/gems in the ocean provs?

[vfb]

The 'Dead Seas' map version has ocean provinces with:
about 75 supply,
zero population,
2 resources.

There are no magic sites at all in the oceans.

[lwarmonger]

Guess that hurts Atlantis quite a bit eh?

[vfb]

Well, not to mention Mictlan! And Agartha and Ermor have a pretty easy time getting into the water too.

[Crust]

Greetings to you all from the cold lands of Bogarus.

[AreaOfEffect]

Some nations find ocean warfare to be difficult and a huge investment in gems that don't contribute to the rest of their warfare. This makes it possible to defeat nations lodged in the water without having to fight on those terms.

With Ry'leh not present, the only reason Atlantis has to go in the water anyhow is to increase their magic diversity. I think thier underwater mage is only a few resources and so this shouldn't hinder them in this capasity.

Besides, water provinces still provide a means for some people to transport their armies to avoid bottle necks. The french have a great advantage that requires the water provinces only be their and not conquered.

Edit: Hello Bogarus. It cold here too, but that's because it is the middle of winter.

[vfb]

Oh, woe is Mictlan, whose hired mercenary Dante upped and left us for the pretty face that is Agartha.

Here we are, attempting to hold back the legions of zombies on our oddy-knocky, while the dominion of the dead creeps forward and poisons our lands, and our efforts are undermined by Dante's lack of loyalty. Well, Dante, when the ghouls of Ermor feast on your flesh and the T-virus spreads through your cells, don't come looking to Mictlan for sympathy!

So says Hunter of Mictlan.

[Lingchih]

Damn Knights. I had to send Kali in to take them out. Well, anyway, that is done.

Marignon if finished with it's expansion. We await Ermor now, or, if he does not come to us, we will move to his lands in time. We should not need corridors through our friends to accomplish that.

[vfb]

"CLATTO! VERATA! N... ... uh ... ...Nickel?"

So speaks Hunter of Mictlan.

[Lingchih]

Hunter of Mictlan gets more obscure each turn. I have no idea what he is even talking about now, but I like him!

[Lingchih]

After numerous scouting reports, Ermor appears to be incredibly weak. This, of course, is incredulous to me, but it appears to be a fact.

Lacking Ermor as an opponent, Marignon shall just sit and wait for another opponent to manifest. We are still friendly to all other nations, and may just quietly bow out of the game, since we are no longer needed.

Oh, and Bah Humbug on you Ermor. You should have done much better. You are LA Ermor for god's sake!

[vfb]

Mictlan knows not to count its quetzals before they hatch! Ermor still has a huge undead army ready to burst forth at any time from its citadel of doom.

But the spirit of Zetacosta guides the armies of Mictlan, and when Ermor has zigged, we have zigged with them. Likewise when they have zagged, Mictlan zagged too.

Zetacosta willing, we will prevail, in peace and freedom from fear, and in true health, through the purity and essence of our natural fluids.

But if Mictlan should fail in our quest, then we beseech Marignon to save the world from the undead horde.

Hunter of Mictlan

[vfb]

And so it did come to pass. That there was a great battle outside the citadel of Ermor!

And there was much gnashing of teeth, and stomping of boots, and rolling of terrible eyes, and so forth.

And the Army of Ermor was vast indeed, and the earth shook beneath the weight of the dead.

But the Jaguars of Mictlan did not flee, or faint, or decide they would rather be doing something a little less dangerous like perhaps dancing or singing.

The armies clashed, and horsemen were toppled, and wounds were given, and wounds were received, and there was much suffering and dying and blood and bits poked out and such stuff.

And in the end, the Ermorian leaders did pack up their bags and flee, for they were smitten with fear and dread. But the mindless horde did not care, and fought on. And lo! They did not perish. For the immortal Queen of Death has no fear, and she did remain on the battlefield. Curse her! Curse that Queen!

And in the end all the army of Ermor was slain. And all the army of Mictlan was slain, except for some lucky bastards that took off right around the end.

And only two remained on the field of battle: the immortal Queen, and the Priest King Raoul. And Raoul did fling Vine Arrows at the distant Queen, and the distant Queen did throw some pebbles at Raoul. And so they flung and flung, and flung some more at each other, like some weird death match, until a rock hit Raoul in the head, and he died.

The End


Tally of the Dead
Mictlan: 4 commanders, 70 soldiers
Ermor: 17 commanders, 331 undead

[Ossa]

Unfortunatly Ermor lost all mages and priests in this battle...

[AreaOfEffect]

Ermor is weak in the very begining of the game as it needs research and castles to make their armies devistating. Mictlan also has the advantage of H3 priests who do a lot more banishment damage then H1 preists.

[vfb]

Unfortunately for Mictlan, we are located in mountains, mountains, and more mountains. So we have been experiencing something of a financial crisis since the start! Directly to our south, there were some nice plains (not farms, though), but thanks to Ermor's dominion, there are only about 6 or 7 stubborn peasants living there now.

The LA Mictlan H3 priest is expensive, and comes without N. The LA Priest King is only N2H2, and that's what I've been forced to build to keep my troops fed, and battle the undead horde. H3 is so much nicer because of the MR malus and the extra AOE/damage. I can only dream of being able to afford H3 priests.

Of course, if I had waited, this situation would have only gotten worse, as Ermor's awake Dom10 pretender poisoned the land, and I had only limited opportunities to hunt for slaves to sacrifice to counter Ermor's dominion. Ermor's castle starting out on a VP only made it worse, of course.

In any case, Mictlan continues to fight the good fight, since there is no other choice but to fade away into the annals of history.

So speaks the Unchosen Prophet of Mictlan.

[Lingchih]

That was an incredible battle Hunter (of course we were there. would not have missed it). But yes, it appears Ermor is a goner now. Too bad you lost so many good units doing it.

[vfb]

Mictlan is happy to hear there were witnesses to the battle. For it is rare that two armies ever both fight down to the last man. (or woman!)

Yes, it was a significant loss for us, but we have reinforcements in the area, and the deathly dominion of Ermor will soon be but a memory. A horrible terrifying nightmare of a memory, that is!

[vfb]

It appears fortune has fallen on the fearsome evil ones.

Ermor's capitol now has at least 47 PD! That's 56 Longdead Horsemen, and about 100 Longdead Legionniares, 100 Londead Velites.

Not only that, now almost all the mercenaries are belong to Ermor.

The Unchosen Prophet of Mictlan says, "Yikes!"

[AreaOfEffect]

Interesting. I see what happened to the castle funds then.

[Lingchih]

I was wondering where Ermor got all the money to buy those mercs.

[Lingchih]

The Council of Marignon has met late these many nights, and has come to a decision.

Though we remain the steadfast enemy of Ermor until they are finally destroyed, we have decided to name a new Enemy of the People. It is the undead worshiping foulness of Agartha. We cannot abide their heathen ways, and now declare Holy War on them. Unfortunately, we have no border with them, but we will support any nation that goes to war with them.

[vfb]

Interesting. I see what happened to the castle funds then.

Oh no, Ermor built castles, two of them actually. I got one early, along with a temple of death. I think he may have just gotten a recent 3000 gold event or something. Woe to the living! :)

ooc: I'd like to say I've got a lot of respect for Ossa, for persevering and not going AI!


We will be known forever by the tracks we leave. Or in the case of Ermor, corpses.

[Ossa]

Thanks;)

Actually this is my first time MP LA Ermor and I still dont know what to do.. though there is not much to do now that I lost everything.

I taxed every province 200 from the beginning and got a +1000 gold event somewhen.

If only all my mages and priests hadnt retreated in the major battle... did I say I've got my stealthy prophet in Mictlans lands ;) ?

What about you let me live and put me to good use against someone later;) ?

[vfb]

Yeah, I noticed the peasants were a little unruly as I marched through the lands. The ones that were still alive I mean, most of them were dead in the ditches.

Anyway, you're doing a great job of fighting it out to the end! Mictlan already nailed their colors to the mast, so there's no quarter gonna be given in what is known as the Great War of the East.

The Unnamed Prophet of Mictlan says, "Make my enemy brave and strong, so that if defeated, I will not be ashamed."

[lwarmonger]

Hmm, who to root for? The blood thirsty savages who would extract and show me my various internal organs while I was still alive, or the swarms of undead who would kill me and turn me into one of their own and send me after my family and friends. You know, all things considered I vote for the millions of zombies and other undead. At least in that case I have a zombie plan I can enact.

[vfb]

Hah!

You'd change your mind soon when the dominion of the dead spilt over your borders and your poor peasants started dying in droves.

Mictlan is doing the world a favour by ridding the land of the undead empire!


And the Unnamed Prophet of Mictlan says, "Let the vampire who is without sin cast the first aspersion, especially at us good guys."

[lwarmonger]

Indeed. Now instead of being killed outright they can be tortured to death in sacrifice to your god. I'm sure they feel THRILLED. ;)

[lwarmonger]

And my vampires only eat however many of their mindless serfs they need to survive. It is a biological disorder, and while we aren't proud of it, and our god doesn't endorse their human eating habit, it is a necessary biological process.

Besides, we aren't casting aspersions, merely observing. Be assured, your barbarian hordes are beneath my good aristocratic countess' notice (at least up until they start tearing her castle down around her ears).

[vfb]

Killed outright? They should be so lucky!

The poor victims of Ermor first die a horrible wasting death, and then rise to walk the earth for eternity as zombie slaves in the evil undead legion. It is only the light of the prayers of our priests and the holy fires burning in our swords that saves these souls from their undeserved eternal damnation.

As for the sacrifices of Mictlan, those virgins come willingly to the Alter of Life to be joined as one with the spirit of the benevolent and holy Zetacosta.

So speaks the Unnamed Prophet of Mictlan.

[lwarmonger]

It is because those virgins are so willing that hundreds, indeed thousands of your citizens seem compelled to take up arms against you to try and protect them from their "choice."

[vfb]

Mictlan is pleased that you understand the situation! Perhaps it's because our nations are cousins in blood. It's those damned newfangled religions creeping into the countryside, confusing the peasants. We suspect these seeds of subversion are being planted by foreign elements!

[Ossa]

Horribly wasting death???

You understand nothing at all! Being a zombie is fun! You dont need to care about sexualy transmitted diseases, you need no sleep, never get a hangover... everyone is friendly to you (well, at least those around you) and if you're hungry you can actually eat anything!

Pity that noone gets the chance to gain this eternal and wonderful life now... :(

[AreaOfEffect]

All this banter is making me hungry...

[lwarmonger]

Would that mean that Ermor has now been completely vanquished by Mictlan then?

[AreaOfEffect]

Not yet, Ermor is holding on to their capitol. That's fine by me. The longer the capitol stays in their hands the longer it is out of the hands of a nation that doesn't need to expend their 15/turn death gems on national commanders.

I just hope Mictlan didn't choose a death bless.

[Lingchih]

I think Ermor is pretty much down to his mercs and maybe his pretender. Don't know for sure. He and Atlantis killed all my spies over there.

[vfb]

Ermor is just down to it's 99 PD or whatever and a bunch of new undead creepy crawlies.

No way is Mictlan going near the Ermorian capitol until we get a 3000 gold lucky event to buy some more troops!

[lwarmonger]

Well, Ermor may be down, but not out... it looks like Atlantis is laying some hurt on Bogarus though.

[Ossa]

Ermor will confine itself to his home province for the next few years - I cannot risk to loose my troops.

Mictlan has a fire and... astral bless I think. Feel free to donate funds to me to sponsor the yearly ghoul party, if you spend enough you'll get a VIP card and a free wraithlord costume so you can attend the party yourself.

[Lingchih]

Marignon needs a thistle mace. We can pay in most any currency, or gems, or bl slaves, but we only have 5 N gems to send over. Please PM me for details.

[vfb]

Oh, how weary are the warriors of Mictlan! For now, after great losses sustained battling Ermor, our cousins of the Deep call for help, to repel the aggressive Bogatyrs who amass on our borders. The duty compelled by our shared heritage cannot be ignored!

So speaks the Unnamed Prophet

[lwarmonger]

From where I'm sitting the Atlantians are pushing into Bogarus, not vis-versa.

[vfb]

Shhh! I'm catapulting the propaganda!

[Lingchih]

Umm, I kind of really need a thistle mace. Anyone?

[Crust]

Well, Ermor may be down, but not out... it looks like Atlantis is laying some hurt on Bogarus though.

It's a temporary thing, as our armies were elsewhere. It's no great victory to defeat a smattering of provincial defense. Very soon we will gut the frogs and make of them a delicious soup.

As for Mictlan, they are not our enemy, yet. If they actually manage to attack us with something other than words we'll reconsider.

[AreaOfEffect]

Man sends their deepest apologies to the nation of Argatha. The shield that we aquired has been sitting in our storage center for some time. Apparently someone didn't fill out the shipping files properly and it never got sent.

We have taken measures to increase the bureaucracy. Now all shipment forms must be filled in triplicate and must be approved by a tier three magistrate.

[vfb]

Indeed the armies of Bogarus were elsewhere, for though he claimed he would help fight the undead horde, he chose neutrality. Appeaser! So his armies were off frolicking about in the indy lands, collecting delicious soup ingredients, instead of battling the horrible and dreaded zombie legions.

Meanwhile Mictlan sacrificed the health of our troops, marching through desolate wastelands with only some small portions of smoked turkey to keep a few of our jungle warriors fed. Oh, how they pine to return to the fjords of our homeland!

So Bogarus reaps the harvest of a land that is still alive only because of the sacrifices we made. Well Bogarus, since our lands have become a desolate wasteland, we lay claim to your bountiful provinces, and we will confiscate your soup ingredients and cookery, and then let's see you make some soup!

The Unnamed Prophet of Mictlan

[vfb]

Good game Ossa! I think it'll be a long time before I ever see another "last man standing (or woman)" battle like we had outside the gates of your capitol.

[lwarmonger]

Unfortunately my scout was too late to see the epic battle for the Ermorian home province, however I was fortunate enough to be in at the death. It looks like a rather large battle is soon to occur between Bogarus and Atlantis.

[Lingchih]

Kali hails the death of Ermor, and those who accomplished it. Whatever else happens now, we of Marignon now know that Ermor shall not conquer the world.

[Lingchih]

And we commend of Friends in Man for attacking the blasphemous Agarthan nation. Though we can only offer moral support at this time, we wish you luck.

[vfb]

The destruction of the Agarthan nation at the hand of Man appears imminent. Uh ... that was quick.

Mictlan bows down before the awesomeness that is Marignon, for it appears that death is the consequence of becoming their enemy! Who will they declare war on next? For doom surely awaits that nation.

[Lingchih]

The death worshipers have been or are now being destroyed. Marignon already sees that the world is a better place, and we thank our friends for doing what we were unable to do, because of our cordoned off position in the world.

We see no great evil in the world now, aside from the few remaining Agarthan lands. We shall bide our time and study, and keep our eyes open for some new evil that my come to plague the world.

On a side note, we of Marignon did kill Indor Vadul, the ancient presence, and his foulspawn manikins that dared to invade our lands. We do not tolerate death worshipers of any kind.

[Lingchih]

If I had a hammer
I'd hammer in the morning
I'd hammer in the evening
All over this land
I'd hammer out danger
I'd hammer out a warning
I'd hammer out love between my brothers and my sisters
All over this land

-- Yes, Marignon would like a hammer.

(lyrics by Pete Seeger)

[vfb]

Hey Agartha, you alive? Now's not the best time to be staling!

Let's see a spirited defense of the home front. :)

[AreaOfEffect]

The player for Argatha admitted to taking on more then he can handle. It explains why he hasn't put forth much of a defense. He said he wanted to stick it out and not go AI, but now he has staled.

I don't think he's in the sort of position I would want to place a sub in. If he stales again, I'm tempted to place him on AI. It would put up more of a fight then total inaction.

Anyone disagree?

[vfb]

You mean taking on too many games? Or taking on LA Man? :)

I don't see anything wrong with setting Agartha to AI now. It's better than him staling. No disagreement here.

[AreaOfEffect]

I'll check in right before the turn limit and if he still hasn't submitted then I'll set him to AI. I don't see any reason to set that sort of action before the last hour.

I extended the turn by 2 hours to coincide with the time I usually wake up.

[GrudgeBringer]

I am sorry for not letting everyone know that I was more or less just playing the turns out.

I didn't want to set it to AI as it might attack someone I had a NAP with when they where unprepared or in a war with no defense agianst my border.

I staled by accident but it did bring it to my attention that maybe I wasn't fair to the other players by not announcing this so they could get a piece of the territory.

My apologies to all....I had sent in my turn but got a PM sugessting I set it on AI so I had the turn resent and set it to AI.

Good luck all and hope I will see you in the future when things slow down and I am NOT (as in never) in 9 games at the same time.

[Lingchih]

It's a common mistake for new MP players Grudge. Don't sweat it. But 9 games? I was once in six and thought my brain was going to explode.

[vfb]

Our apologies to any scouts who were accidentally patrolled out of the Dawn Land and thereby did not get to sit in on the festivities that took place this month.

The final tallies were:

Friendly Commanders: 22, killed 0
Friendly Units: 267, killed 122
Enemy Commanders: 16, killed 8
Enemy Units: 359, killed 276
Enemy Undead: 23, killed 23

A glorious victory! And this with our troops so discouraged after living on a strict Turkey diet. A great many jaguar warriors were lost, but the cavalry of Bogarus is no more.

-- The Ghost of Hunter

[Crust]

Hello astral bless, goodbye Bogarus.

[vfb]

Hello astral bless, goodbye Bogarus.

Well, Mictlan admires your bravery for charging across the river!

And I'm sure you've got more tricks up your sleeve. By the way, if you're really planning on invading, I hope you made some sandwiches or a box lunch or something. There's not a lot to eat over here.

-- The Ghost of Hunter


P.S. Thanks to AreaOfEffect for putting Agartha out of its misery.

[Crust]

Oh the plan was sound in principle, it's just that some key properties of Astral Fire, Astral bless and magic resistance were overlooked.

[lwarmonger]

Lol! I saw that battle... was surprised at just how decisive the outcome was though.

[Lingchih]

Kali has pondered long and assiduously, after being informed that there is indeed another nation of death still in the world, and occupying much of it's lands. Though she has sympathy for the Atlanteans, after being driven from their home in the sea by R'lyeh, she sees this as no reason to embrace the tenants of death. All the Atlantean mages now use the death magic, and this is not acceptable.

Therefore, Kali has declared that Atlantis is the new Enemy of the World. Though we have no border with Atlantis, we shall support any nation that goes to war with them, to rid our world of their misguided blight.

All other wars in progress (save for the clean-up of the Agarthans) should be ended. Petty differences can be resolved once Atlantis has been removed from the world.

[AreaOfEffect]

I want to make it official. I hate cave forts. Once I'm done here, I might just raze it to the ground.

[lwarmonger]

You know, I notice that Marignon tends to war upon nations that it doesn't share a border with. Ergo, other nations would be doing most of the fighting and dying in said wars (in this case it is Bogarus). This strikes the countess of Ulm as eminently sensible, given how large Atlantis has become.

[AreaOfEffect]

From my perspective, Marignon will soon border a nation it has declared war against. Open up the flood gates and awaken the sleeping dragon.

[Lingchih]

Dragon? Had not thought of that, but it's a great idea. Page, go find that sleeping dragon and wake it up. It's time to fight!

[Lingchih]

The Barbarians are at the gate! Heh, Atlantis and I now share a border. Delicious! Gatekeeper, prepare to open the flood gates.

[vfb]

Mictlan is proud to announce the completion of the construction of our doomsday machine. So don't anyone go invading us or anything, or you'll be doomed!

Secondly, our special forces have conducted a raid in the former lands of Agartha to target a network of terrorist foreign fighters who had committed the unpardonable sin of kidnapping and killing one of our ambassador scouts.

-- The Ghost of Mictlan

[AreaOfEffect]

Oh, and here we thought that Mictlan had heard of Man's wonderful Harvest festival. We hold it every fall and it's all the rage. We are still puzzled as to why you brought all those foreign delights. Jaguars, eagles, and fish?

Waste not want not is what I say. Let the feast begin!

[Lingchih]

Atlantis is on the run from the mighty forces of good, and Bogarus isn't doing bad either. Ulm, shall you join us in this glorious fight? You have been very quiet all these years, so we really don't know where your sympathies are. But join us in the fight against Atlantis, and you will be rewarded.

Kali of Marignon
(I've fired the Council. You'll be hearing from me directly from now on)

[Crust]

Atlantis is on the run from the mighty forces of good, and Bogarus isn't doing bad either.

For some reason the crushing double pronged attack from Mictlan and Atlantis never happened.

[meister_miagi]

I think Ulm will join the fight soon, I already one of his spies causing trouble in Atlantis. I thought we had a NAP?

[Lingchih]

As far as I know, spying is not disallowed under an NAP.

[AreaOfEffect]

The server sent me messages about receiving my files from turn 32 after it had already received them and already given me turn 33. It then proceeded to list my turn as submitted, when indeed I had not. Due to the buggy nature of the server, I have temporarily turned off the quick host.

To weigh in on the last topic, my impression is that spying/scouting is not an act of war, however, causing unrest is.

[Lingchih]

Maybe we should just wait til Llama gets back to fix it. I don't want to get mailbombed.

[vfb]

If you've submitted a turn for any game, including the last turn for this game, then I believe the bombs are already in flight. In the mail, you might say. :(

[vfb]

Back to the game:

Mictlan has urgent news for the world!

As we previously explained, Mictlan's ambassador to Man was brutally abducted and shot by terrorist archers in the ex-Agarthan lands. That is not news. But what is news is that when Mictlan's commander of special anti-terrorist units arrived in the ex-Agarthan lands, he found bodies strewn everywhere! Corpses on the fields! Corpses in the ditches!

Mictlan hereby accuses Man of practicing dark magic, and not cleaning up dead bodies. Probably Man left the bodies unburied in anticipation of conducting all sorts of horrid necromantic experiments on them!

The tyrant ruling the nation of Man must be overthrown and replaced by one who does not dabble in the dark magics.

Marignon, your task is clear.

-- Hunter of Mictlan, who may previously have been inaccurately referred to a 'Ghost', but actually is more along the lines of the Sort-of Resurrected Hunter. Really! He's much more like some sort of benevolent spirit than anything ghostly.

[Lingchih]

These are serious charges, ruler of Man. How do you respond to this accusation?

[lwarmonger]

Ulm, while supporting our fellow humans in principle, has done nothing aggressive against the nation of Atlantis. Any reports to that effect should be filed, in triplicate, with our foriegn ministry. They will be attended to in a timely manner by the vampires in the Department of Ministerial Vampires (DMV). Keep in mind that to the vampires in the DMV, due to their immortality and complete lack of promotion prospects, years can seem like mere hours. Hopefully it seems that way to you too.

[Lingchih]

Seems all above board to me/

[vfb]

Mictlan could not agree more!

Ulm is a true ally of the foes of death.

But the Nation of Man, on the other hand, well, just look at all those dead bodies! And who knows how many corpses they have stashed in all those crypts that Man has erected across the lands. I'm betting ... lots!

-- Hunter, Benevolent Spirit of Mictlan

[lwarmonger]

Are you sure that Mictlan hasn't gone into the used chariot selling business?

[vfb]

Absolutely not. However we do have some very nice pre-owned equine-powered vehicular transport modules available, with extremely attractive financing options! Call now!

[AreaOfEffect]

Mictlan hereby accuses Man of practicing dark magic, and not cleaning up dead bodies. Probably Man left the bodies unburied in anticipation of conducting all sorts of horrid necromantic experiments on them!

Says the nation with a legion of longdead.

As for those bodies you found, those were unruly criminals of the state. Their guilt was proven to the local judge and their execution was processed according to article 1232-s of the penal code. The majority were convicted of tax evasion, which is a serious vilation in the nation of Man. Man does not allow the burial of the recently deceased unless proper burial approval forms have been signed by the deceased or there nearest kin and approved by a tier 4 magister.

Mictlan has been a disrespectful guest of the state. There visitation during the fall festivals were tolerated. However, it seems that, in their drunken idiocy, they have staggered to the inner regions of Man. It is now winter and the festivities have concluded. Though such an occasion would normally mandate that we deport our honored guests, their joy ride into the inner region has caused them to witness the location of undisclosed public offices.

It has therefore been determined by a tribunal that the visitors from Mictlan be executed for their crimes. The nation of Man takes the disclosure of undisclosed locations very seriously. We are a private people and don't like unauthorized personal snooping where they shouldn't. We ask our guests to please hold their position as tier 6 magisters arrive to carry out their punishment.

Have a nice day.

[vfb]

Those are not longdead! They are the wounded soldiers of the evil Bogarian empire, who sought to invade the pure and holy lands of Mictlan. To tell you the truth, some of them were really not looking so good after that battle. But, the divine Hunter, benevolent spirit of Mictlan, has helped them get back on their feet again. They are feeling much better now, and have decided to stay in Mictlan, where peace reigns and people laze about on grassy knolls, enjoying freedom and a few choice beverages.

Anyway, we have heard of some strange Pagan ceremonies in the land of Man that occur during the winter solstice, and we thought we'd bring you some turkey. You like turkey, right? Everyone likes turkey!

-- Hunter, Benevolent Spirit of Mictlan

[Lingchih]

I hope the timer is still off. I have not done my turn, and do not intend to do so until Llamaserver is fixed.

[Lingchih]

Marignon has investigated the accusations against Man, and has found them not guilty of using the death magic. They sure do like to kill peasants, but there is no crime in that.

We are also willing to overlook a troop of undead that Mictlan may have. We assume they were made to combat Ermor, in a kind of fire vs. fire type of war. We sincerely hope we do not see their numbers grow though.

[AreaOfEffect]

When you mean grow, do you mean... add an undead elephant?

P.S.: The quickhost is still off and will be until the next turn.

[vfb]

It's not undead, it's just a little undernourished. We found it wandering around outside the citadel, and we're trying to nurse it back to health. It doesn't seem to want to eat much, though.

[lwarmonger]

Kinda hard to eat brains when you are an elephant.

[vfb]

Well, obviously we haven't got any of those around here, having gone and invaded Ermor and everything. If you could please ship us some nice ones, that would be great.

[lwarmonger]

Well, unfortunately most of our citizens are mindless thralls... the ones that aren't tend to wield very large swords, or are immortal and drink blood. Either way, they usually object to being parted with their nice juicy brains.

[Lingchih]

In this lull in the activities, as Llamaserver slowly recovers, we of Marignon would like to remind everyone that we will tolerate no casting of the death magic. No means none. If we see a new Bane Lord, or undead elephants, or a new troop of zombies pop up, there will be retribution. We have been tolerant of Mictlan, since they share similar values that we do, and can eventually, we hope, be brought into the light.

That being said, we will tolerate no use of the death magic, even by our friends and allies, unless a "Needed Use of Death Magic" form is submitted to our Thaumaturg Council, and approved. Even then, said nation will be frowned upon from that point on.

[vfb]

Mictlan would have Marignon know that wherever the Holy Spirit of Hunter goes, the sick and infirm are made hale, even if they are like, really really sick and not moving very much, and sort of smell a bit off.

The Holy Spirit of Hunter knows no magic but Holy magic, for he is most Holy. And his healing powers are a divine gift, and cannot be shut off like some silly faucet of holy water.

Also, the term "zombie" is very passé, and somewhat disparaging. Please use the politically correct term "élan challenged."

-- Mictlan

[lwarmonger]

Also, the term "zombie" is very passé, and somewhat disparaging. Please use the politically correct term "élan challenged."

-- Mictlan

Friggin hilarious! :D

[Lingchih]

It seems then, Mictlan, that you do indeed need to submit a "Needed Use of Death Magic" form, to Marignon, by way of the PM.

[vfb]

Mictlan is very sorry but our Information Retrieval priests are quite busy and cannot complete any such documentation unless they receive the blank form in triplicate, and also a 27B/6 authorization form. Unfortunately we are completely out of blank 27B/6 forms at the moment, because we haven't invented paper yet.

-- Hunter, Benevolent Spirit of Mictlan

[AreaOfEffect]

For all appearances the llamaserver seems to be in better condition. However, it doesn't yet appear to be responsive to e-mails. That said, I'm sure llamabeast will make an announcement somewhere in the forum as soon as it is operable.

As soon as it is working again, please submit your turns even if you have done so before. I will not put the game back on quickhost unless everyone says they have resubmitted or until the next turn happens.

[Lingchih]

The game now appears to be gone off the server. Got a message back after my turn submission saying I had submitted a turn for an unknown game.

[lwarmonger]

It appears to still be there?

[Lingchih]

It may look like it's there, but it won't accept my 2h file. And of, the server crashed during hosting of my other game, Artifacts, so it's definitely not fixed yet.

[vfb]

The server crash was because of lack of disk space. But the .2h file rejection sounds pretty dire ... does llamabeast know? Did you try sending it after he fixed the disk space problem?

I've resent my latest turn, and it worked for me:


This message is just to let you know that I just received a 2h file from you, and it seems to be fine. However, I already received a 2h file from you for the same turn. I'll assume that this newer file is a revised version, and use it instead.

If you sent both this and the previous 2h file within a minute or two of each other, there's some possibility that they arrived in the wrong order. Just to check I'm using the correct one, here's a couple of details of the message that arrived last:

Subject: Re: New turn file: Collider, Mictlan turn 33
Date sent: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 18:27:21 -0800 (PST)

If you don't want me to use the 2h file from this e-mail - send your new 2h again!

Game details:

Game name: Collider
Nation: Late Era Mictlan
Turn number: 33

Who's sent their turn in:
Marignon Waiting for 2h file
Mictlan 2h file received
Bogarus 2h file received
Chelms 2h file received
Atlantis 2h file received
Ulm 2h file received

[Lingchih]

Never mind... I'm an idiot. I was trying to send it my mid-marignon turn from another game. Should be OK now.

[Lingchih]

OK, I'm in and it looks like everyone else is as well. I think you can host it now AoE.

[lwarmonger]

Please wait a little bit. I've got 24 hour staff duty in about an hour... so if you could wait to host until approximately three hours from this post I'll be able to make my turn.

[AreaOfEffect]

If you all feel it is safe to host by now then I will turn quickhost back on. Cross your fingers.

[vfb]

Sounds good to me!

[Lingchih]

Do it!

[vfb]

Mitlan has shocking news for Marignon!

Forms and documents be buggered, the very Pretender and God of Man is itself a horrible undead creature! Yea, it is a filthy undead Lich, and it does not just dabble in Death ... it is an extremely accomplished Death mage. This Lich is such an evil god that he dispatches his best mages on futile suicide bombing missions, and comes along to watch the spectacle of their pointless deaths.

Unless Man forsakes their evil, undead God, and razes all the temples they have constructed to worship his undead form, Mictlan does not see how Marignon can possibly stand by and ignore the corrupt and evil practices of their northernly neighbors!

-- The Most Benevolent Spirit, Hunter of Mictlan

[Lingchih]

Marignon knows nothing of this. Nothing! We do not hear your heresies Mictlan.

Sorry, Kali got a bit carried away there. Man is an ally for now. All those using the magic of death will get theirs, in time.

[Lingchih]

Also, are we are back on 24 hour quickhost? It seems like we have gone overtime.

[Lingchih]

Heh. Atlantis wants a throwdown, eh? Well, bring it on.

[lwarmonger]

Lol... I'm willing to bet that Atlantis may be starting to feel the effects of his lousy dominion.

[AreaOfEffect]

Yes we are back on 24 hour quickhost. Would people like to slow things down?

[AreaOfEffect]

To the nation of Mictlan.

You insult our pride when you speak of our god as nothing more then a filthy lich. He is the old one. He is the prince who has guided our people for ages. He hails from a time when the powers of death were wielded carelessly. He remains our mentor because we do not wish to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Nobody was more pleased to see the fallen nation of Ermor crumble then our god. Yet now we are certain that Mictlan's war against Ermor has proved to be it's own downfall. You have been corrupted by the powers you have acquired. The powers of death are more then just the reanimation of the dead and the torturing of souls. It is people like you who disgrace the practice. It is because of people like you that the nation of Marignon have started their holy war. Your new play toy is a powerful and dangerous thing and you do not have the will to control yourself. You have become a sad race and we pity you. You must be destroyed now so that you do not later meet the same fate as Ermor did.

Your ancestors will thanks us.

[Lingchih]

Mighty Orion, Defender of the Faith, has joined the ranks of Marignon. May all who face him tremble.

[vfb]

Heresy! The Prophet Hunter (may he be praised) is most blessed and holy. His kindness showers down on the sick and fallen, and they rise at his touch and stand again. What miracles he performs! For he is truly the holy one.

Nation of Man, you must recant your heresies immediately, or we will invade you some more!



To the nation of Mictlan.

You insult our pride when you speak of our god as nothing more then a filthy lich. He is the old one. He is the prince who has guided our people for ages. He hails from a time when the powers of death were wielded carelessly. He remains our mentor because we do not wish to repeat the mistakes of the past.

Nobody was more pleased to see the fallen nation of Ermor crumble then our god. Yet now we are certain that Mictlan's war against Ermor has proved to be it's own downfall. You have been corrupted by the powers you have acquired. The powers of death are more then just the reanimation of the dead and the torturing of souls. It is people like you who disgrace the practice. It is because of people like you that the nation of Marignon have started their holy war. Your new play toy is a powerful and dangerous thing and you do not have the will to control yourself. You have become a sad race and we pity you. You must be destroyed now so that you do not later meet the same fate as Ermor did.

Your ancestors will thanks us.

[Lingchih]

What in the world are those assarturds doing sitting in the godforsaken water prov south of my cap. There can't be much to eat there. When we went through we didn't even see any fish.

Starving, I guess.

[Lingchih]

Ahh, they finally attacked. I guess they did get tired of starving. Most of them are dead now though, and I would guess the ones that retreated are still starving.

Now, if we could just find a way to get our 10,000 maniacal troops to the front...

[vfb]

The nation of Man has ignored our warnings, and should now suffer most dire consequences! Already they have lost much territory to our sacred warriors, who will not flinch from battle.

But the Benevolent Spirit of Hunter is most kind and generous, and we will permit the nation of Man to exist for a few more months, if they surrender all their lands and castles east of the mountain ridge.

Do not delay in your response Man, for otherwise your destruction is imminent!

Thus speaks the Benevolent Spirit of Mictlan, who will destroy all evil undead spirits everywhere.

[vfb]

Ahh, they finally attacked. I guess they did get tired of starving. Most of them are dead now though, and I would guess the ones that retreated are still starving.

Now, if we could just find a way to get our 10,000 maniacal troops to the front...

Hunter, the Benevolent Spirit of Mictlan, humbly suggests to Marignon that the best route for your troops is up through the western mountains, through the province known to our scholars only as "number 85".

[Lingchih]

Heh, nice try Hunter.

We could send our troops through Bogarus, I guess. Though they might be annoyed by us killing all their army. Especially since they are an ally. I guess we will wait a bit. The troops would really like their paychecks, though. And they are getting unruly.

[AreaOfEffect]

Ha. the leader of Mictlan is bold to ask for what they can't take by force. Even with their double bless sacred horde they can't knock down one simple wall. Clearly Mictlan has become desperate in their attempt to win, as now they're just waving a big stick and begging for submission as they starve to death outside our walls.

Also, months? It would take you years to ever achieve victory. Assuming you could win in the first place that is. Our people spit in your general direction. That would be a no by the way.

[vfb]

More blasphemy from the heretics! We ignore your silly taunts. There is nothing desperate about Mictlan! Our economy is operating at maximum effieciency and production of Coyolxauhqui Stones is up 300% this month. The obstacle to a peaceful resolution of this situation is Man, with their refusal to comply with our reasonable demand that they raze all their temples, forsake their evil undead cripple of a god, and abandon all lands and temples that are the rightful heritage of Mictlan.

-- The Most Benevolent Hunter, Son of the Heavens, the Healer, may He be Praised

[Lingchih]

OK, request to go to a longer host (48 hour). I am going out out of town next week and may not be able to get turns up on 24 hour.

[Lingchih]

Bueller?... Bueller?...

[AreaOfEffect]

My apologies. We accidently sent goods to meant for our friends to our enemies. How embarassing.

Also, the people of Mictlan are smelly.

[vfb]

The people of Mictlan are smelly because we are sick and not all of us have had a chance to visit He who Heals all, the True Prophet (may He be praised), the Blessed and Holy Spirit who is Hunter.

And the reason that Mictlan's people are sick and need to visit our Prophet (may He be praised) is that the foul necromancers of Man have been using secret Weapons of Mass Disease Spreading, horrible venom charms constructed through their unlicensed use of death magic. Use of Death magic which Marignon continues to ignore, at their peril!

[lwarmonger]

Lol... so the Europeans are spreading disease among the people of Mictlan? How unfortunate. Perhaps next time you shouldn't accept those blankets. So what did we learn? :)

[Lingchih]

Man has been issued the proper papers for a limited use of death magic, for now. Though we frown upon it severely, the license has been granted.

[Lingchih]

An undead agent of death and disease has finally been killed after killing many of Marignon's people. The agent was wearing a Mictlan headband, and with techniques known only to the most holy Kali, it was determined that the beast was indeed sent by Mictlan.

Therefore, Marignon extends the war to Mictlan. Mictlan, foul user of the death magic, must be destroyed.

[vfb]

Sadly, the noble servant of Mictlan was indeed slain as he searched in vain for the fabled secret passage under the mountains that leads to the lands of Man.

Perhaps if he had ventured into the capitol of Marignon, he might have found the passage, but Mictlan had no desire to damage those who had been our friends. So he wandered about in vain, and his mission was a failure.

Mictlan invites Marignon to bring any sick or unhealthy soldiers to our great healer Hunter (may He be praised) who will use his great and holy powers to make them rise up and walk the land once more. Truly He is the Great One, with great Healing Powers.

[AreaOfEffect]

We the nation of Man have applied the use of death magic very carefully and only in a small degree. The use of earth and air magic on the other hand has been exercised almost completely. Death magic has only one legitimate use, and that is to deal out death to those who are unworthy to live.

[Lingchih]

Sadly, the noble servant of Mictlan was indeed slain as he searched in vain for the fabled secret passage under the mountains that leads to the lands of Man.

Perhaps if he had ventured into the capitol of Marignon, he might have found the passage, but Mictlan had no desire to damage those who had been our friends. So he wandered about in vain, and his mission was a failure.

Mictlan invites Marignon to bring any sick or unhealthy soldiers to our great healer Hunter (may He be praised) who will use his great and holy powers to make them rise up and walk the land once more. Truly He is the Great One, with great Healing Powers.

The healing powers of Hunter. heh. I guess one could see it that way, in a twisted mind. Our sick an dying will be buried in holy ceremonies, that will never allow them to rise up again as undead beasts. We may have some other entities that wish to visit your lands though. Winged entities of great holy power, who vanquish undead at a whim.

[vfb]

The healing powers of Hunter. heh. I guess one could see it that way, in a twisted mind. Our sick an dying will be buried in holy ceremonies, that will never allow them to rise up again as undead beasts. We may have some other entities that wish to visit your lands though. Winged entities of great holy power, who vanquish undead at a whim.

Mictlan looks forward to your visit. The great spirit Hunter (may He be praised) will be pleased to discuss the healing arts with your angels, for He too is most holy.

Don't forget to pack a lunch! While we are experiencing one of the greatest ever production runs in Mictlan history of Coyolxauhqui Stones, and production is up 400% from last month, Mictlan must admit that this year has not exactly been the best for growing crops.

[AreaOfEffect]

Burden of Time... Really?

It appears that the nation of Mictlan has become far more currupted then I imagined. Regarldess of weather i'm ready or not, it appears I'll have to make an offensive and overthrow their leader.

[AreaOfEffect]

By the way, I originally wanted to express my concern about those who have staled in recent turns. However, it seems that those that commonly do so have submitted a file for this turn. I'm glad to see these players still active.

Just remember that if you need an extension on a turn, most likely because of upcoming holidays, please do not hesitate to post the request. The sooner the request the more likely I will be able to respond as well. So if you know you will be unable to play in the next month, please feel free to say which days. Thanks and good luck to all. (Except for Mictlan, they can burn in an inferno for all I care.)

[vfb]

Mictlan eagerly awaits the visits of the old and infirm and dying to our lands, where the blessed and holy Spirit of Hunter (may he be praised) will make them healed and pure, and they will be strong and walking the earth again in no time at all. His healing powers are vast indeed, so even those who are not capable of walking should come, just toss them in a cart or something and wheel them over.

By the way, we have apprehended all of those dastardly so-called "Popular People's Front of Mictlan" rapscallions, so do not expect any more secret messages from them!

-- Mictlan

[Lingchih]

Armageddon! The end times have begun. Let all those who can fight, fight now! We must end Mictlan or face the end ourselves. Marignon's armies are crawling, limping, and coughing their way into battle now. There is no more time for indecision!

(Or, I could just dispel it. meh)

[AreaOfEffect]

Sad news this month. It seems that the people of Bogarus have been deserted by their god. They will likely turn on their allies and be unable to properly defend themselves.

Good news on the war against Mictlan. Spite the daftness of Mictlan's eagle warriors and other assorted sacred and non-sacred flying units, we have acheived a great victory against their main forces. Only a few survivers and some reinforcements stand in the way between us and their capitol. There were of course cassulaties, the flying abominations managed to destroy my well tuned communion before it really did anything.

[Lingchih]

OOC, AoE. Are you saying Bogarus is AI? Might be why he attacked me.

[AreaOfEffect]

Yes, Bogarus is AI. Sad yet not entirely unexpected. If asked to find a sub, I would have.

[vfb]

Sad news this month. It seems that the people of Bogarus have been deserted by their god. They will likely turn on their allies and be unable to properly defend themselves.

Well, that's just goofy, bailing from the game without any warning or even saying goodbye. I'm 99% against rollbacks, but if you want to unwind the turn, and delete Ossa's orders to go AI so you can find a sub, that's cool with me. Of course we should all just leave last month's orders as they were.

Good news on the war against Mictlan. Spite the daftness of Mictlan's eagle warriors and other assorted sacred and non-sacred flying units, we have acheived a great victory against their main forces. Only a few survivers and some reinforcements stand in the way between us and their capitol. There were of course cassulaties, the flying abominations managed to destroy my well tuned communion before it really did anything.

Mictlan's eagle warriors are not daft. Perhaps you mean "deft"? They are filled with battle fury, and will sacrifice themselves for the cause! However, we are somewhat disappointed in our Jaguar warriors, who fled the field of battle. Do not fear death, Mictlan soldiers! It is just a temporary pain, just a scratch, just a wound. The Holy Spirit of Hunter (may he be praised) will make you rise again, with the eternal bliss of Hunter holiness.

-- Mictlan

[AreaOfEffect]

I really don't see much use in a rollback at the point. Bogarus had a nice run, but after staling the last two turns it appears they are mostly beat anyhow. This turn was also quite important for you and me. Lastly, I've already put a lot of work into the new turn.

[vfb]

Sure, I just wanted to give you the option, since having Bogarus go AI is basically bad for Man and Marignon. I'm looking forward to seeing what you throw at me this month!

[Lingchih]

Sure, I just wanted to give you the option, since having Bogarus go AI is basically bad for Man and Marignon. I'm looking forward to seeing what you throw at me this month!

Like Burden of Time is not bad for Man and Marignon? :smirk:

[Lingchih]

The Burden of Time has been dispelled. Throw it up again vfb, I'll cast it down again. Your choice as to how you use your gems. We have boots of youth on everybody now anyway, so do as you please.

Marignon suffered a win and a loss against Atlantis. The cost was heavy, but we can defend our lands. And who knows what may fly out of Marignon in the turns to come.

[vfb]

Ha! Boots of Youth don't help with Burden of Time, and Mictlan does not know what this 'vfb' you speak of is. :p

The great Spirit, Hunter of Mictlan (may he be praised) was pleased to see his troops die a glorious death on the battlefield this month, instead of running away like cowards. He will soon pay a visit to the fallen, that they be blessed and granted eternal health.

[Lingchih]

Marignon declares that Hunter will be burned at the stake, no matter the price.

Ulm better get in the fight, and Atlantis better clear out. Marignon is gunning for Hunter, the blasphemous.

[lwarmonger]

Ulm wishes to officially announce its entry into the Coalition of the West against the evil, decadent and undead empires of the east. Already Ulmish troops are pouring across the border into Atlantian territory, liberating the toiling masses from Atlantis's tyrranical yoke.

[Lingchih]

Yeah, Ulm! Take it to them!

[vfb]

Ulm wishes to officially announce its entry into the Coalition of the West against the evil, decadent and undead empires of the east. Already Ulmish troops are pouring across the border into Atlantian territory, liberating the toiling masses from Atlantis's tyrranical yoke.

The Great Spirit Hunter (may he be praised) welcomes the news! Oh, what carnage will be wrought, and what legions of wounded and sick there will be, all to be healed by His hand, which is most holy.

Come, come, you imperialist Westerner alliance, to the land of Mictlan, and see our great factories and industry. Look upon our enthusiastic manufacture of Coyolxauhqui Stones, for production is up an amazing 600% from last month! And just this week the agricultural workers of Mictlan from across the nation planted trees in the arboretum of the Kunal Ermorian Citadel and the Winter Peaks Revolutionary Site on Monday. Come see our nice trees!

-- Mictlan

[Lingchih]

Hunter of Mictlan.... just shut up. You know you are dead. We know you are dead. It is just a matter of time.

Wow, got a little emphatic there, didn't I

[AreaOfEffect]

OOC, I just want to say that, even with drain tolerance, it is never worth it to take drain 3... ever. The magic fading event has struck me twice this game and it has not been kind. Just a little advice from a person who has had the experience.

[meister_miagi]

@Ulm: I see you declared war in this forum but we had a three turn NAP which you never cancelled, a warning would have been nice!

[lwarmonger]

True, however that also would have given you time to prepare. Methinks, given how large you are, that would be an error. I usually do honor non-aggression pacts, however all is fair in love and war, and it doesn't look like the other members of the Western Coalition had three turns.

[vfb]

For what it's worth:

Atlantis had no knowledge at all that Mictlan was casting Burden of Time. So Mictlan pretty much violated out NAP with them too, except we figured that Man (and Bogarus and Marignon) would be worse affected. Ulm ... well, we'd offer belated apologies, if you hadn't reneged much earlier on your promise to invade Bogarus from the south.

For all Mictlan knew, Atlantis could have had a province full of Lore Masters or something.

And Mictlan never had a NAP with Ulm, or Bogarus, Marignon, or Man.

So I'm not sure who you want three turns for?

[Lingchih]

I have no problem with the breaking of NAPs in this game. For the record, Mari never had one with anybody (except Bogarus, I think), though we do have allies.

It's a small game, and we've known who was on who's side for a long time.

[vfb]

Yes, looking at it from a non-insane point of view, I think Ulm was completely justified in attacking the ally of the caster of Burden of Time, even though a NAP existed. And even though the ally was completely unaware of my plans.

But looking at things from a non-insane point of view is no fun at all. :(

Are you sure you don't want Hunter to come back and post?

[Lingchih]

Hunter? Why not, he's a fun guy. I'll bring Kali back too. What the hell, the world is going down in flames, let's get back in character.

Kali, messenger of the flames, cares not that the burden of time is again afflicting the peoples of the world. She measures her lifespan in aeons, not decades.

(oh, and, scribe, order another Dispel. Seems Mictlan likes to waste his death gems)

[Lingchih]

Kali laments the passing of the Altantean Monolith pretender Bruno, by her own hand. About like she laments the passing of a large gallstone.

We will be using the rock fragments to pave the road to Atlantis.

[vfb]

Meanwhile, in the north, Mictlan's armies have made great strides forwards and sideways! We have repelled the attack of the sick imperialist aggressors, and they are now on their heels like dogs! Our indefatigable forces are ready for more action, but once again we will prove our peaceful nature by offering a ceasefire to Man if they withdraw all their forces to the west of the Mountains, where they belong in their western imperialist castles, and tear down all their temples to their false god, and surrender all territory east of the mountains immediately.

-- The Benevolent and Peaceful Spirit of Hunter of Mictlan

[Lingchih]

Hmm. It seems a cease fire, this point, would just be a death sentence. While you sit in your castles, you die quickly of old age. Kali beseeches Man not to consider the insidious offer of Hunter. Death in the field in glory is much better than death in a dank sick room.

[lwarmonger]

Indeed. If Man enacts a ceasefire while the burden of time is in effect it will surely mean a slow death for them. Ulm meanwhile remains fairly immune to the effects of the Burden of Time, and will only grow stronger as time goes on.

[Lingchih]

C'mon All. The East buried now. Let's get to work

[lwarmonger]

I do indeed believe that the Atlantian tide has reached its highest point, and will only recede from here. The main Ulmish armies are just now entering the fray, and Atlantis is overextended. Good hunting Marignon, we'll see who reaches their capital first.

[meister_miagi]

It seems Kali wasn't very popular with his troops for forcing them to march into the icy cold of Atlantis. After the Atlantians left the battlefield to reform, the crossbowmen of Marignom aimed their weapons at their leader.
Sade of Ulm met a similar fate when her troops left her standing all alone on the the battlefield.

[lwarmonger]

Fortunately Sade has many lives, as do most of her troops.

[Lingchih]

Sigh. Killed by my own men. What's next I wonder?

-ghost of Kali

[Lingchih]

The Council of Marignon wishes to quell any rumors that the God Kali is dead. She was gravely wounded in the rout of Atlantis, but she is recuperating nicely in our best hospital. Our overzealous crossbowmen have been severely punished for their mistake.

When Kali is fully recovered, she will no longer be a combatant. She will sit the throne and do all kinds of queenly stuff.

(and to those of you referring to her as a male? It may be hard to tell, especially in the thick of battle, but Kali is a female Moloch. Don't know why really... guess it's cause she looks like a Gorgon (same icon, different color), so at the beginning I just assumed it was female. Now I have to stick with it.)

[Lingchih]

Well, I'm about ready to call this one for Mictlan, unless Atlantis wants to turn on them for casting Astral Corruption.

BoT is killing my mages faster than I can make them, AC is up now, and the only place I am even winning battles is with the AI Bogarus.

I won't go AI on you guys if you want to keep playing (like some other did), but I'm really not capable of much at all anymore.

[vfb]

You should talk to Man and Ulm about calling the game now, and probably Atlantis too. :)

I think you will find they have other ideas! If Ulm's got legions of Vampire Counts, he doesn't care about BoT or AC. Man is doing quite nicely, though the northlands between the mountains and river are not as pleasant a place to live as they used to be. They still look better than the homelands of post-apocalyptic Mictlan.

Marignon has probably suffered the most collateral damage as the result of the insanity of the Ghost of Hunter (may he burn in hell). Oh, how different this world might have been if it had been Marignon on Ermor's border, and not Mictlan!

In any case, we send our regrets to Marignon, who supported us long ago in Mictlan's battle against evil.

-- The Popular People's Front of Mictlan

[lwarmonger]

I'm doing pretty well Vampire count and lord wise (as Atlantis is finding out), and my chaff is increasing by leaps and bounds... I don't think that this war is lost for the Western Coalition yet!

[AreaOfEffect]

Indeed, I've mitigated most of my opponents damage and their failed attempts to halt my research has proven to be mostly a waste of gems. I'm almost satisfied with the research I have.

As for the new nasty world enchantment, that's why I have my own imortal units.

Edit: Though I would never be opposed to some help from Atlantis. Opening that front would do the whole world a favor.

[lwarmonger]

I would be agreeable to a ceasefire on the Atlantian front in order to press the war against Mictlan... I would need that province I took in the north however, in order so that I could push armies through what used to be Bogarus.

[Lingchih]

OK. I'll hang in there. Seems others are doing better than I thought they were. I would like to hear from Atlantis though. I'll just beat up on Bogarus for now I guess.

[vfb]

No, you must all bow before the might that is Mictlan, and give up hope now! Surrender all your territories and drown your armies in the lakes, that is your only chance. I, the Spirit of Hunter (praise me), will then grant you eternal longevity. Do not listen to those who seek to pervert the course of preordained history!

So speaks the Spirit of Hunter.

[Lingchih]

Spirit of Kali spits on Spirit of Hunter.


We assume they are in the same place.

[meister_miagi]

Just want to let you know that I'll be leaving on a 4-Week vacation
tomorrow. My brother will be taking over for me, so he will decide what direction Atlantis will take from now on, although I have advised him how to proceed.
Thanks for the game, guys!

[Lingchih]

Is your brother on the boards? If so, what is his name? In case some diplomacy is needed.

[vfb]

Mictlan achieves great victory in the battle for The Great Feral! If you watch the replay, that is. The Ghost of Hunter says, "Bah." :(

[Lingchih]

BFG Mictlan. We are coming for you.

--Marignon

[vfb]

The Ghost of Hunter is not aware of all acronym traditions! He is quite old and you will need to more verbose if you wish to have a meaningful dialog.

But it doesn't matter. We have heard this story before. Our invulnerable army is waiting for Marverni in our invulnerable fortress in Ancyrna (#110). If you are not afraid of the might that is Mictlan, then we look forward to your arrival in #110 this month.

[AreaOfEffect]

Our god is a truely superior being and far greater then Mictlan's pretender. Clearly you have witnessed his ability to rewrite the past and bring about fortune to those that fear and respect him.

The Great Feral is ours.

[Lingchih]

Oh, and Kali is back from her vacation in Hell. She's looking a bit jet-lagged, and worse for wear, but still in fine fighting shape. She will be visiting a prov near you in the near future.

And all crossbowmen have been trained not to shoot Kali in the back in the future. They will be immediately executed if they do so, even if they claim it was an accident.

[lwarmonger]

Hey guys, I'm going to be going to the field from Tuesday morning till late evening Thursday... just letting you know, no internet for me.

[Lingchih]

How can you survive in the field? We wish you luck. Maybe you can take some Bear Grylls tapes with you.

[Lingchih]

Well, well. Kali got killed by the Eater of Gods before she could even get geared up. Wonder who could have sent that little beastie?

I'll probably go AI in a few turns. I can't fight under these conditions. I'll try to take out Bogarus first so you guys don't have to worry about two rogue AI nations.

Oh, and Atlantis attacked me under a flag of truce, with no warning, so nobody should trust Atlantis in the least.

[Lingchih]

Clarification. We realize the Eater of Gods incident was a random event, greatly hastened by the Astral Corruption affecting the world.

Guard your Gods. The Eater is on the loose. He may soon come for yours.

[ghurk]

Atlantis is under new guidance.

Bruno is pleased.:D

[ghurk]

Our regrets to Marignon.
The new head of state was not aware of any truce. Those crossbowmen needed some action before dying of old age.
Can we offer a few fire gems as compensation?

[AreaOfEffect]

Man's diplomatic policy is to never publicly demonstrate weakness. I'm sure most of the other nations have been under the impression that Man has everything well in hand. For the most part this is true. We can at least defend ourselves and we have yet to suffer a loss that we could not recover from.

However, we project that in the near future this may not be the case. The resources of Mictlan far exceed ours and have exceeded ours for some time now. We estimate that the nation of Man will be overrun by demon bats before the year is through. So, in breaking with diplomatic policy... Help!

[Lingchih]

Bam! And down goes the Bogarus cap. Just a few more Bogarus castles to take down, then I can bow out of this game.

I even took it down without the use of my famous flaming crossbows. Of course, it is just the AI. So I shouldn't pat myself on the back too much.

[Lingchih]

Actually, I think I will stay in until I am knocked out. This is kind of fun playing without a Pretender or any useful mages. A challenge, I would say.

[vfb]

Good to hear! I think this game has been pretty challenging for everyone.

AoE, did you see lwarmonger's request for an extension above? The game page still says:

Next turn due: 15:15 GMT on Thursday December 11th

[AreaOfEffect]

I saw it and then forgot about it because he had submitted a turn at the time. Thanks for the heads up.

Also, I tweeked the original post. Added ghurk to the player list, made it easy to PM any of the players, and spruced up the nation/player layout.

[lwarmonger]

Back and turn submitted.

You know, even though I will probably be on the losing end of this game, it really is an interesting one. The coalition of the East is quite powerful, however I have to think that their poisonous dominion (especially Atlantis) has to be hurting them. On the other hand, so is the Astral corruption and Burden of Time eminating from Mictlan hurting us!

[vfb]

Press Release: The Popular Peoples Front for the Liberation of Mictlan rejoices! For the evil Ghost of Mictlan has been slain by the noble warriors of Chelms, who have our blessings. We will soon be forming a new government based on life, liberty, and the pursuit of scantily-clad escaped blood slaves. This truly is a happy ARGHHhhhhhhhhhhhhh.......

[lwarmonger]

Lol... yet another confusing event in the life of the poor savages of Mictlan.

[Lingchih]

Hmm. Wonder why it isn't hosting. All turns are in.