Timewarp! - Game is live!

[Executor]

It seems I have underestimated you Jim my friend, this will not happen again.

[JimMorrison]

It seems I have underestimated you Jim my friend, this will not happen again.

That battle was either really pretty, or really ugly, depending on which side of the fence you happen to be on. ;)

I replayed it a few times to laugh at how fast a dozen Sauromancers can Wither Bones 300 longdeads. Lucky I didn't need them for much more than distraction. :p

Pity that leezards are cold blooded, eh? <3

[Executor]

The poor bastards were outnumbered 2.5 to 1, but they did surprisingly in the given circumstances.

I just don't know why I casted darkness, I wanted to cast life after death. That really screwed me.

Well don't expect a rerun of this battle soon, I have something nice planned for you in a few turns. Muhahaha

[Executor]

Well that was a stupid mistake. My reclesness seems to be endless, Serpents blessing is nature 4.
I don't care about losing those troops, but loosing those 6 mages is a whole different story. That battle could have gone much better... sigh

[Unoptimized]

We are sorry for your loss. Perhaps we will send you a gift basket.

PS hey guys, I'm heading out this weekend. Could the turn be delayed untill late Sunday EST?

[JimMorrison]

Aye, I didn't expect such a large force, I saw nothing adjacent, so I was making a mad dash to meet up with the main forces to protect our homeland.

It entertained me how much damage they did, though I wanted them part of more final clashes. :( My last battle with Vanheim went much worse for my loyal forces..... Mass Flight can be absolutely brutal.

[Slobby]

PS hey guys, I'm heading out this weekend. Could the turn be delayed untill late Sunday EST?

sure

[klagrok]

Slobby, we need to AI MA Ulm and LA Ermor as they have staled last 4 turns--soon to be 5. NO reason for the peeps taking them on to have it easy. AI da fools. Would have been nice if the people playing them had the courtesy to set them to AI instead of fleeing like spring chickens instead of duking it out to the bitter end.

[Slobby]

righto

[Slobby]

I'd just like to extend a big thanks to Lingchih and chrispederson for setting our two staling nations to ai!

Cheers

[klagrok]

Thanks for getting that resolved slobby :)

[Dimaz]

Can we delay the hosting by 24h, please? I have some urgent work and not sure if I'll be able to make my turn tonight.

[Slobby]

done

[Slobby]

I lmao this last turn. Besieged I had the great all knowing Zuul scripted as such,

Darkness/Rigor Mortis/Wind of Death/Wailing Wind/Undead horde/Spells

Instead he decided to cast,

Darkness/Rigor Mortis/Cloud of Death/Rain of Stones

and killed himself! lol Ah too funny!

This is pretty much the end of MA C'tis, I'll be setting myself to ai this turn I think.

Any volunteers to be the new game admin?

[klagrok]

Ill take over Slobby--PM me the details and such

[Slobby]

PM sent, well it was fun all, gg. gl & hf!

[klagrok]

Well peeps we are way past turn 50, so want to know how many are ready for the 72 hour turns. I vote we go 72 either this turn or next turn. Well it will be 72 next turn no matter what so who wants to extend this turn as well??

[Dimaz]

I'm for 72 hour schedule, too.

[klagrok]

Well Im going to set it to 72 unless I hear otherwise.

[Unoptimized]

Oh thank goodness!

[Executor]

I need a 48 hour delay if possible, I'm having slight problems with my computer, should give me enough time to sort it out.

[klagrok]

No problem Ex.....I'll delay the game 48--hope you get the computer fixed--I remember the good ole days when Stretch Armstrong was king :) Cant live without my computer now. :p

[Unoptimized]

Actually, that works out well. I need to go do graduate school interviews, so I will be away from my comp untill next wend. If you would not mind delaying, I would appreciate it :)

[klagrok]

Unoptimized let me know if the Sat deadline will be good---if you cant get it in I can extend it further.

[Unoptimized]

Hey! I just got back, and this turn will be a bit of a doozy. I'll have it done tomorrow :)

[JimMorrison]

Oh man, Unoptimized. <3

That whole battle was bad enough, before I realized that you were surrounded, so all of your retreaters perished as well. :shock:

I guess now I get to see what Executor has for me to play with. ;)

[Executor]

Oh I've got plenty of nice things, would you mind stepping out of the fort to show you?

[JimMorrison]

Nah, we like it in here. It has all the comforts of home, you could say. We've arranged to remain comfortable for an indefinite period of time, while you try to figure out what you'll need to evict us. ;)

[Dimaz]

Can we delay the hosting by 24 hours? This week is very busy and this turn requires much micro, I made only about 1/3 of it.

[klagrok]

I'll add 36 hrs to be sure you make it in time :)

[klagrok]

Cripes--sick all weekend so wooo hooo!!!! Im gonna extend deadline 24, but should be able to get it in way before then :)

[klagrok]

IF anyone wants me to delay the game a day or two for Easter let me know.

[JimMorrison]

So is LA C'tis just going to wrap up the win before anyone can crack my capital? Disappointing. :(

[Executor]

Don't worry Jim, that won't happen.
Dimaz, we have exactly the same standards, so that's a bit confusing.
I know we have no official diplomatic agreement but I will be attacking you this turn. You overcast my global!!!:mad:
I've had a little talk with some people and we can use an exiting mod, single age, and enter new standards for either me or you in this game so we can tell who's is who.
Since the game is hosted on Llamaserver, Only Llama can do this (I think), so I PM'd him, but still no word.
Wanted to attack you last turn, and since I can't risk delaying this war any more I think we better make a pause till Llama changes our banners.

[JimMorrison]

Actually I'm pretty sure that the final verdict was that for the banners, it does not matter what the data on Llamaserver says. What is important, is the content of your mod, which you can (and have to) change locally.

As far as I know, there is no enforced logical order in a mod file. Just open up the SingleAgeMod (or SingleAgeComplete or whichever it is :p) and past in the data from Streamers and Standards mod.

When you open your turn, your game will look for the appropriate mod file, and use it verbatim - it has no knowledge of what the mod file at the host actually says. Just remember to only paste in info about the banners, or you will get corrupted turns that will make the game go wonky. ;)

[Dimaz]

Executor, I agree that our banners produce some confusion. MA C'tis too, btw. It's good that you are going to attack now, because I decided the same, and actually I was going to attack last turn but due to some errors at forging I had to wait. Now, if someone can tell exactly what should we do to set different banners for 3 C'tis nations, I'll be really grateful.

[Dimaz]

klagrok, the weekend was too busy this time, so I have to ask for 24h delay for this turn.

[klagrok]

same here so will postpone 24

[Executor]

Does someone mind telling me how to change the banners since I have no idea what-so-ever what I'm doing, and I feel a nagot gik fel is coming?!!?!?!

[Dimaz]

Same here :)

[JimMorrison]

You can run multiple instances of Dominions on your computer. For this test, you'll need multiple installs as well.

Start one, start a Network game, using the mods from this game.

Open a separate instance of Dom3, and log into your own server, from your second install.

Run a few turns of the game, then close the second instance, swap in your altered .dm file, and log back in. Check to see the banners are changed, and End Turn to confirm that it will resolve.

If the turn runs, the fix works, and should be 100% safe to use with Llamaserver.

Then you can post your results, and everyone will adore you for finally proving that it is viable. ;)

[Executor]

Dimaz I think this is everything you need to do, copy this into the single age mod file.

#modname "Flag Test"
#icon "../guihead.tga"
#selectnation 60
#flag "./llamaBanners/la_ctis_icon.tga"
#end

Restart Dominions and I think it should work.
If not, well PM Gandalf.

[Dimaz]

Well, I also need some tga image renamed to ./llamaBanners/la_ctis_icon.tga for this to work. I used guihead.tga, now there are many heads on my lands :) Thanks Executor, and I hope this game will come to an end soon, I'm a bit tired of 4-5-hour turns already :) But I fear with your hordes of shadowseers it will be harder than I thought.

[Executor]

Oh you ain't seen nothin' yet!

Oh wait, forgot to say this, Muhahahahahahahahaaa

[Dimaz]

Klagrok, it seems I'll need extra 24 h for this turn.

[klagrok]

NP internet slow as usual out here. Ill add 24 Dimaz oh and sorry about all those golems last turn :p

[Dimaz]

No problem with golems here, I have more ;)

[Dimaz]

Klagrok, again I'll need extra 6 hours for this turn.

[klagrok]

NP Ill add a few more :)

[Executor]

Jim, god dammit...
When I said I'd like you to step out of your fort I didn't mean with assasins.

Anyone wanna take a guess how much pearls AN is giving me?
BTW, What globals were dispelled this turn?

[Dimaz]

I think about 150, maybe 200, perhaps around 80-90 from me, if I understand the mechanics properly. It largerly depends on how you spend (or not) these pearls, actually, so hard to guess.
I used Fate of Oedipus to dispell EoG and the lightning global by Jotunheim was also destroyed somehow.

[Executor]

Well I'll tell you when the game is over, which may be a very long time...

It was a good trade off, 30 pearls for Eyes of God, 75 fire gems to cancel it out, and since I have the chalice, as you may have suspected, no harm done. Plus needed it up for only one turn anyway, makes no difference now.

Oh, have something special coming up next month, stay tuned.

[Dimaz]

I hope it'll be more special than hundreds of GR casts.. I already had enough of "specials" in this game when my god was killed by unique doom horror early in the game. Actually, I don't think you can win now, but I think it'll be a long fight for both of us. It's a pity we don't have VPs in this game, probably it's a bad idea to play such large maps with no VPs.

[Executor]

No, something better, GR is just something you're gonna have to get used to every turn.

I agree, this map is just too big, I don't think I'll play a game this big soon, or at all again.

So you don't think I can win? Well I'll just have to prove you wrong there I guess. But in any case, if I see I'm going down I won't insist on prolonging this time consing game, I expect the same from you.

[JimMorrison]

But Balistha is a pimp. :p I'm pretty bored, waiting for my visit, but he got real cabin fever.

[klagrok]

WTF?? Just looked at my turn, and appears my Pretender was feebleminded (which has happened to me mucho times before)--but when I went to go cry over her, couldnt find her. Of course, my priests all have 'call god' option now. Anyone else ever had this happen? Triple checked my reports and didnt see any other spells cast at her.

[klagrok]

Oops--never mind...appears she got snagged by a Horror :mad:

[Dimaz]

Heh, exactly what happened to me in the early game. I was sure that was some sort of bug before I found corresponding message.

[klagrok]

What really stinks is the 5 abominations that were guarding her fled like spring chickens :(

[Dimaz]

Klagrok, again I have to ask for 24h extension. I'll try to finish the turn tonight, but I'm not sure.

[klagrok]

NP Ill add 24 hrs--of course, if you let me have half of your provinces your turns wouldnt take you as long :angel

[Executor]

"And let there be darkness!" said Winnie The Pooh, the god of EA C'tis,
"Utter darkness, while the Forges of the Acients are kept open by a never ending stream of pearls from the Arcain Nexus!" said the Lord...

Oh shhh...
That's the problem when you do a little bit of turn every day, always forget something.
Dimaz, remind me to kill those golems

HEY! By my calculation you ain't spending a lot of gems? Why?

[Dimaz]

Hmm. Perhaps I forgot them in some remote lab? You should remind me to spend all the gems properly, to fuel your Nexus better :).

[Executor]

I think I'll need a delay on this turn this time, shouldn't take more than 12 hours.

[Dimaz]

Me too. Perhaps we should permanently add 1 day to schedule?

[Executor]

Not a bad idea.

[klagrok]

Ill add one day permanently :) Of course, you could hand over some provinces to cut down your game time :eek:

[Dimaz]

Hi Klagrok, I'm unable to finish this turn in time due to power failure that erased all today's changes. And second one when I tried to redo them. So, please add 12h or so to this turn.

[klagrok]

NP Ill add 24 just in case

[Executor]

It would appear that Klagrok is no longer among us.
So it's me against you now Dimaz. The grand finale.

[Dimaz]

Yesss. Lizardssss againsst lizardsss.

[klagrok]

I will still admin :) My giants couldnt see too well in the dark :D

[Executor]

Klagrok, could you add 12 hours to the clock, I have too much too study for tomorrow (end of the year for me on Friday so I'm extremely busy ) so I don't have time to do this turn properly.

[klagrok]

Will do :)

[Dimaz]

I think we can delay the turn till Friday or Saturday in such case, if you need it.

[Executor]

Bah, no need, I've sort of done my turn a few days back, probably forgot a few things but that's just me.

However I would like an extra 24 hours on this turn, I have a basketball tournament on Saturday and I probably won't be able to do my turn at least before Friday.
Probably won't need the delay but just in case...

[Executor]

My god, you actually managed to dispel a 999 gems global!
Don't see the point doe, since I'll just cast it again this turn with the exact amount.

[Dimaz]

You can try.

[klagrok]

Ill add 24 to da clock

[Executor]

Now would you look at that,
I knew I forgot something, an escape rout for that damn Tartarian.
I'ma have start writing things down.

You know what the most interesting part about Utherdark is?
It doesn't hurt you or me much, it actually help us both in certain situations, apart from resolving the damn bane fire problem for your the treacherous Sauromancers,
The fact that we can't buy scouts on a 400 province map. :) :) :)

Do our brethren lizards dare attack the mighty fortress of Pythium?

[Dimaz]

Yep, it's kinda hard to make GR-scout attack thing without scouts, right? :) And, I think, your Shadow Seers are more precious now.
It turned out mighty fortress is not so mighty, when surrounded by legions of chariots. The presence of your own domes preventing you from sending reinforcements makes it especially interesting :)

[Executor]

Oh, you liked that thug shadow seer than huh?

Who said that fort needs reinforcments?

[Dimaz]

klagrok, I need 1 day more to finish current turn, please delay hosting by 24 h.

[Executor]

I agree, a delay is indeed what is needed right now.

Dimaz, if Klagrok doesn't see this in time to delay don't send the turn so we can roll back without any repercussion.

[Dimaz]

Ok.

[Executor]

I think I'll ask Llama for the password so we can roll back, I'll PM it to you too.

[Executor]

OK, so game rolled back, thank you once again Llama.
We can get back to killing each other.

Both of us can extend the turn now, and I assume you won't be doing this but let's not get over abusive with delaying the game.

[klagrok]

Darn sorry out hiking all day :( See 2 hrs on todays deadline, so not sure if you are talking about the current turn or not, but Ill add 24 just in case.

Seems you guys gots the password :) Goodluck lizard boys!!!!!

[Executor]

Stupid stupid mistake.
Same mistake twice in a row, not to mention I forgot to extract that one tart also.

Why didn't you attack? Why aren't you spending gems?

[Dimaz]

Stars were in a bad position for attack. And I do spend gems, at least some of them :) Good strike with RoS!

[Dimaz]

Heh, you really have something in that castle.

[Executor]

Told you,
you're welcome to try again.

[Dimaz]

Thanks, I'll try a bit later. Btw, I'll be away 21-27, I think we'd just stop the game for that period, as staling and subs are not a good idea in current position.

[Executor]

Sure, no problem.

[Executor]

I have a very big problem, I've just spotted that something very important just vanished with no cause what so ever, I'll delay the game for 16 hours so to figure out what to do about it.

[Dimaz]

No problem, hope you'll solve the problem.

[Executor]

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[Executor]

Ah, a good turn! You're finally losing some troops and mages, now you just outnumber me 2 to 1.

It will be a very big shame for the one of us who loses this game if you consider all the time invested in it. This last turn took me about 6-7 hours to menage.

[Dimaz]

Well, considering I just lost 999 astral trying to overcast your nexus with the mage killed by A, and losing about half of my gem-producing items, and losing many chariot-spamming priests, and the fact that we understood you're going to use GoH/A combo just the last turn, clearly you play better. I think my main mistake was to concentrate on "more lands as fast as possible" in the midgame, spending tons of astral on golems and losing them without need. Instead I had to put Nexus first. Well, considering all this, I think we can declare you winner in this game.

[Executor]

I do think you severely underestimated me, you are stronger only on score graphs.
My clams cost 3w1N gem, and blood stone 3 slaves and 2 earth gems. I'm forging 30 clams a turn along with several blood stones.
I have about 350 clams and six astral 9 mages to cast wish, so that's another 450 free gems along with those 350.
I can cast AN with 999 every turn since I have about 700 astral gems a turn with AN. While Jotun was alive it gave me about 350 a turn. Now it about 200 since I keep summoning iron dragon, tartarians and other expensive stuff.
I also pay almost nothing for items with the forge, and the steel ovens, 10 gem items cost me 2 gems, 5 gems items are 1 even without hammers.
I'm summoning 10 tartarians a turn.
I have a dozen Seraphs and Chayots, and about 100 tartarians waiting to be GoRed.
And with those last two Armageddons I lost maybe 10 mages, which weren't in friendly dominion to be saved by GoH, Sauromancer have protection 10 and other important mages had armor to protect them.
Even if you do dispel GoH this turn, although I put an insanely large amount of gems, it would still be one turn of Armageddons for you from which you can not protect.

I'm good if you want to continue the game, although I pretty sure you'll lose eventually and even better if you want to end it. Those golems irritate the hell out of me!!!

[Dimaz]

Lost my reply.
In short, I had 450 total astral income (all gems converted) and was going to overcast nexus and then forge with 20% constr site. Perhaps it was too late already, don't know. Anyway it was interesting game. My first lategame experience on such scale. Many mistakes, many new ideas.

[Executor]

OK, than.
I'll declare the game over.

I had about 2000 gems stockpilled which I had no idea how to spend other than to keep them for alchemising for wish.

It was a very interesting game. I made several very stupid mistakes, worst was the fact that I kept low for too long in fear of being ganged upon even when there was little who left to attack me, and didn't notice how big you grew, which could have cost me my game.

I had a very fast start, with taking a load of provinces and than switching to research. I think I finished research at about turn 50, got to const 8 first and made most of the artifacts.

That and the fact that Jotunheim and I agreed not to fight each other with being the two biggest nation let me focus on a single front to defend if needed which made my game.

All in all you're a very nasty opponent, and I hope not to fight you again for a while at least. Good game.

Learned a few new tricks myself, but still to learn how to kill those golems of yours, never could find a reasonably cheap solution.

Oh, and I like the fact that C'tis from all ages were the best in the game even with Mictlan, Ermor, Pythium, Nief and other top nations. GO CTIS!