(commander) disappeared one night and was never seen again

[Innocence]

Got this message in a game: "(commander) disappeared one night and was never seen again. This night some people heard the most beautiful song", and lost a commander :confused:

What happened?

[Gregstrom]

Sounds like a siren song to me. Give your commanders in coastal provinces water breathing items, and they'll suffer less. If someone has cast Lure of the Deep, try dispelling it.

[Nikelaos]

yep definately a siren, either oceania has a spy in you're province or it's lure of the deep.

[Tifone]

He has escaped from his wife with a country music singer to Las Vegas. When he'll sober up he'll come back to his 4 sons :D

[Innocence]

Army was next to a water province, but that province is still indie.

There are no water nations in the game, and no Global Enchants.

Is the Siren in the land province from where the commander disappeared, iow can I catch it by patrolling?

[Gregstrom]

Looks like a random event then. I don't know if the siren hangs around and can be caught by patrols, or whether it was a one-off event. Looks like the reverse event to the one where a peasant finds a wounded siren and it ends up on your side.

[Lingchih]

Yes, it is in your province. Yes, you can catch it by patrolling.

[Nikelaos]

what lingchih said, but only if oceania is in the game you're playing, if so it is almost certainly siren, and can be on land, now just patrol it can't be too hard to find a bird with a voluptous chest area and a human head - especially when it sings so loud.

[Lingchih]

I don't know about the oceania thing Nike. I've had Sirens pop as random commanders in many games with different nations. And I have never played Oceania. It might need a water nation to spawn them though.

[Endoperez]

I don't know about the oceania thing Nike. I've had Sirens pop as random commanders in many games with different nations. And I have never played Oceania. It might need a water nation to spawn them though.

I've seen land nations get Sirens quite often.

It could be a Siren that some other nation got, that is now used to kill your commanders. That sounds more probable than independent Siren knowing to hide and lure.

[Innocence]

[QUOTE=Lingchih;648877]It could be a Siren that some other nation got, that is now used to kill your commanders. That sounds more probable than independent Siren knowing to hide and lure.Could this be caused by a random event, or is it certain there's a Siren in the province? Not going to waste a turn patrolling if this is a one time event only.

Is this attack carried out as an assassination attempt? Those take place before any movement or patrolling, so if this is caused by a player, there isn't anything I can do to prevent it from happening again this turn :(

Do commanders get some kind of save to resist the attack?
Is it normal for this effect to be anonymous?

[Poopsi]

Most likely there is a siren in the province.

I´ve gotten sirens as commanders from random events, when playing land nations. Rather often, in fact. Patrol the province and pwn her.

If you are close to the enemy border you have the problem of them flying and being able to retreat, through.

[Endoperez]

Is this attack carried out as an assassination attempt? Those take place before any movement or patrolling, so if this is caused by a player, there isn't anything I can do to prevent it from happening again this turn :(

Do commanders get some kind of save to resist the attack?
Is it normal for this effect to be anonymous?

The Lure can be resisted. It's probably against magic resistance, morale or both. If the commander is amphibious, he gets to fight the Siren, at least in some cases.

If you are close to the enemy border you have the problem of them flying and being able to retreat, through.

Even flying commanders can only retreat to neighbouring provinces. It's always good to mention that.

[Nikelaos]

ahhh forgot about that random event, well changes little, either way there is a siren there.