MA Newbie game - Faltering_Steps - Running

[Lokean]

Well, I've officially gotten bored with sending my armies of doubly-wish-empowered-gorgon/tartarian-SCs or massive-squads-of-arcane-doom or unending-tides-of-sacred-murderers out to obliterate the Impossible AIs, so I'm hoping to start losing horribly in MP for a while instead. I haven't played a single MP game yet, so I'm looking for similar players that want to get a feel for MP and don't mind screwing up royally to do it.

A word on players: I'm sort of champing at the bit to get things going, so for the moment, players that have expressed an interest but not chosen a nation are still just provsionally accepted, but if somebody else with a firm decision comes along I'll accept them in place of an undecided player.

Game details:
Era: Middle Ages
Map: Glory of the Gods Multiplayer (the 227 land version)
Host: LlamaServer, 24h quickhost
Players: 10
Mods: I'll take the CBM under advisement, depending on player opinions, but probably none.
Settings: Completely default

A word on Diplomacy:
I strongly favour diplomacy being 'flexible'. Half the fun of diplomacy is roleplaying and conniving, regardless of the game you play. However, if people are happier with diplomacy being inviolable then I'll go along with that.

Nations:

Aristander - Ermor
Denisius - Pangea
Fakeymcfake - Shinuyama
Heinrich - Ulm
Lokean - R'lyeh
Natit - Agartha
Shikome - Marignon
SteelyDan - Arcosephales
Zapmeister - Vanaheim

[Loren]

I've played a few MP games, the only time I've not been one of the first to die was when I was in the water. Do I qualify?

[Lokean]

I suppose so, since you claim to die horribly... ;)

What nation?

[Shikome]

I'll take Marignon if you'll have me, I'm definitely a newbie, Not played a single MP game yet. (Though I have signed up to one that's starting soon so I'll have a few rounds experience by the time we start probably, I'm sure that isn't enough to stop me sucking though ;) )

[Zapmeister]

I've never played MP in Dom3, but I did play a fair bit of Dom2. Do I qualify? (Oh yeah - I've never followed the "how to play X" guides and therefore rarely win).

[Carpetbagger]

Atlantis for me please!

[Heinrich]

Please count me in as Ulm.

[Juffos]

I would like to join. I will choose the nation a bit later.

[Denisius]

I'll take up Pangea.

[Lokean]

You're all provisionally accepted, but I'll want nations from those who haven't chosen; if I get other requests from people with a firm decision I'll take them first.

I fear two water nations in one big ocean is going to lead to either an alliance and subjugation of the mouth-breathers on land, or a hellsih war of attrition under the seas. Either way, it'll be interesting.

Carpetbagger, how do your giant rebellious sea-toads feel about brain-raping sociopaths from beyond space and time?

[Fakeymcfake]

If you're still taking people I'll join with Shinuyama.

[Lokean]

Sorry, Juffo, but since you were the last of the undecided, and you're applying to another newbie game as well, I'm going to take Fakeymcfake over you.

[Lokean]

Okay, I've been looking at the game map I suggested, and it can't really support two water nations with just six land nations. As such, I'm going to suggest going up to ten players and using the Glory of the Gods Multiplayer map. That gives a more even balance of land to water, with each land nation having about 28 regions and each water nation having about 23.

As such, Juffos, you're back in the lineup

[Aristander]

I am willing to be the 10th. I would like Ermor.
Thanks
Aristander

[SteelyDan]

Looks like you're out of spots, but I'll play Arco if that's not so.

[Zapmeister]

I'll try Vanheim.

[natit]

I'd like to have a try with Agartha if you'll have me:).

[Juffos]

No problem. I probably have far too many games already going.
Have fun, all of you!

[Lokean]

Right, recruitment complete. I'm afraid Loren lost out to Natit.

Final roster is as follows:

Aristander - Ermor
Carpetbagger - Atlantis
Denisius - Pangea
Fakeymcfake - Shinuyama
Heinrich - Ulm
Lokean - R'lyeh
Natit - Agartha
Shikome - Marignon
SteelyDan - Arcosephales
Zapmeister - Vanaheim

As I say, I'm not too concerned about the Conceptual Balance Mod, as I've not been playing with it in SP, but if the majority prefer it I'll set the game up to use it.

[Aristander]

I vote no the the CBM. I have nothing against CBM but would just like to keep things simple.:)
Thanks
Aristander

[Fakeymcfake]

I'd prefer the CBM as the few multiplayer games I've played with it have been much more enjoyable due to everything being a bit more balanced out. However, I'm willing to go either way on this one.

[Lokean]

Looking through the CBM I notice a couple of things that might actually be the decider on whether we choose to use it or not. Most of the national summons are made cheaper, especially for Shinuyama, and the Carrion Woods are available to Pangea from the start.

On the other hand, the traditional scales used to pay for a massive bless are made more detrimental to have as negatives.

I'm still undecided, but leaning more towards using it, simply because it seems to be popular with MP games organised from here, so getting used to it is probably sensible.

[Zapmeister]

Although I have little experience with the mod (or Dom3, for that matter) I'm a big fan of balance. If it's popular, then that's an indication that its stated aim of improving balance is achieved and that in itself is good enough reason to use it IMHO.

[Shikome]

I'd vote for CBM, most my SP experience is with it and it does seem to make a lot of stuff that's otherwise pretty useless less so, which is always good in my opinion

Plus it contains worthy heroes which is a nice mod in itself, adding quite a lot of new heroes to many nations.

[Lokean]

Fair enough, I suppose I'm sold on it then...

Pretenders can be mailed in now, I've set up the mod, so you'll have to download it and flag it in your preferences before you make the pretender.

[Carpetbagger]

I am going to bailout of this game cause i have a short term memory thing and playing would mess up all my other MP. Its sad to take R'lyeh off my hook.

[Lokean]

Do people have a problem with continuing as-is? If not, same thing stands, please mail your pretenders to the llamaserver.

[Shikome]

pretender sent in

[Lokean]

Still waiting on the following:

Aristander - Ermor
Denisius - Pangea
Heinrich - Ulm
Natit - Agartha
SteelyDan - Arcosephales

And just to verify, while I hope to see plenty of diplomacy I'm assuming it's not going to be treated as inviolable game mechanics but as actual diplomacy and the fostering of relationships between nations.

[Fakeymcfake]

Eh, that's how I always play the game, part army building empire managing, part alliance making back stab dealing.

[Aristander]

Ermor pretender sent in.

[SteelyDan]

Praise be, I'm not last. Pretender sent in.

[Lokean]

Well, since I'm now the only underwater nation, I'm going to make things perfectly clear...

The seas belong to The Dreaming Eye, who waits at the heart of the fallen star until the time is right to rise, when he will consume the minds of the lesser beings and the faithful alike. He is ancient, implacable, and throws an unbelievable hissy fit if strangers get in the water with him. Seriously, don't try it, or we'll have to spend the next millenium subjugating entire island communities to provide enough chocolate to cheer the whiny little baby up. Please, stay out of the water, if not for us, then will you at least think of the squidlings!

[Septimius Severus]

Would like to join as Ashdod, as I see your short 1 pretender.

[SteelyDan]

To: The Dreaming Eye
From: The Pondering Gaze
Subject: Water

Dear Eye,

Our elephants have expressed a wish to bathe in your water and drink of its watery watery goodness. In exchange we offer a golden chariot filled to the brim with good intentions, and a lifetime supply of peanuts. Do the deep ones eat peanuts? Do the deep ones know what a peanut is? Please advise.

Also, it seems appropriate that now that the seas and oceans have been claimed to stake our claim as well, and since there are a limited number of terrains to claim, the Pondering Gaze has decided to quite simply and humbly stake its claim on the "Land". All other nations inhabiting the "Land" will of course be given appropriate notice for when they will be required to leave the "Land". This notice is henceforth given. Any other nations that wish to make claims for the "Air", or if they so wish, the "heav'n abuve" (sic) are free to do so now.

Please keep off the grass.

Sincerely,

P.G.

[Zapmeister]

Agne, Chosen of Odus, Beloved of the Valkyrie frowned as he re-read the intercepted missive for the fourth time. Interruptions were forbidden during bathtime, but this clearly couldn't wait, no matter the cost. Agne rose, paused briefly to reconsider the consequences, then resolutely strode across the courtyard in the direction of the personal baths of his master.

"How DARE you intrude!" bellowed the would-be god as he lounged in the huge bath which was, of course, frozen solid. His sacred horned helmet, worn only by the divine personage at bathtime and by the valkyrie while performing opera, sat askew upon his head giving him the appearance of a dolt. Ironic, thought Agne.

"Forgive me, Your Superness, but the icehawks have intercepted a message sent from one ..." Agnes consulted the paper, "... Trerachadh of Arcosephale to someone or something called The Dreaming Eye. It seems that, between them, they've claimed the land and seas of our world".

"Trerachadh? What kind of name is that? Are you telling me that there are other nations? How does that affect the Ascension Project business plan?" His helmet fell off - Odus was clearly upset.

"Trerachadh is Hdahcarert spelled backwards, my Lord, and it means you might not get to be a god."

Agne backed out of the bathroom as surreptitiously as he could, taking advantage of the loss of perception that occurred during a semidivine tantrum. He could see much more plainly than his master that their future did not necessarily hold the pleasures due to those that impose uncontested dominion, and that a retirement spent enjoying those pleasures would not be his as soon as he thought. If at all.

[Lokean]

Sorry to do this to you, Zapmeister, but I have to unstart the game for the moment. Septimius Severus mailed in a Pretender and the game auto-started. Since I've heard nothing either way from Denisius yet I consider that an unacceptable breach of trust and would prefer to give him time to make his position known.

[Lokean]

I don't know how much of a delay people are willing to tolerate, but it is my intent to wait until 12:00 GMT on saturday, and start the game then. That gives Denisius 56 hours from the time the game went up, which should be plenty of time since the game was stated to be hosting every 24h.

[Lokean]

Denisius appears to be a no-show, so I'm starting the game again. Zapmeister, that means I wasted your turn for no reason, and I apologise for that.

[Aristander]

My turn file was corrupted. I have requested a resend.

Resend Successful turn sent.

[Zapmeister]

Denisius appears to be a no-show, so I'm starting the game again. Zapmeister, that means I wasted your turn for no reason, and I apologise for that.

No problem.

[Shikome]

From the Press Office of Isabelle, God Queen of Marignon, Councilor of the Gods, Queen of Wind upon the Waters, Baker of Pies:

The Holy Marignon Empire regrets to inform the unenlightened barbarians (everyone currently not claiming to be a Marignon Citizen) that they are as of yet unable to bask in the divine presence of The One True Goddess (She's still doing her hair), however her right hand man, Urbuthre, has released the following statement with regards to the Land/Water Ownership issue:

"No they're ours"

[Heinrich]

Lokean, could you please change my e-mail adress by the one I sent you in private message?

I can't receive my turn on this one.

[Lokean]

Fair enough, I've changed it. Seems odd that you could send a pretender in to the llamaserver but couldn't receive a turn from the llamaserver...

[SteelyDan]

From the Press Office of Isabelle, God Queen of Marignon, Councilor of the Gods, Queen of Wind upon the Waters, Baker of Pies:

"No they're ours"


Dear Urethra, or whatever...

Your request has been received by the equally large bureaucracy of the Pondering Gaze. Please allow four to six thousand years for processing, after which it will be deliberated in the senate. After which we will consider your request.

Most cordially,

PG

[Aristander]

The times are changing. Mysterious signs portend the coming of the new age and a new goddess. The skies grow darker. Mysterious fogs and unseasonable weather promote unusual growth throughout the land. A prophet has been preaching about the divinely inspired revelations he has received. It seems that all those who wish to follow the teachings of Vesta, princess of witchcraft, goddess of fishermen, will receive life after death.
Who can say what miracles, hero's and other wonders await!

[Septimius Severus]

Hmm, for some reason, I thought we were on a 48 hour schedule between turns, but apparently I was wrong. How long before we switch? I will likely need more time between turns due to my busy schedule. I motion for a 48 hour turn schedule ASAP, otherwise I likely won't be able to keep up. Feel free to kick me, though, should this happen.

[Aristander]

I for one have no problem with accommodating Septimus Severus on the 48 hour schedule.

Aristander

[Fakeymcfake]

It's a bit soon to switch to 48 hours in my opinion. Especially considering that turns at this point take about 5 minutes to complete, if even.

[Lokean]

Considering Agartha has staled his first two turns, I'd be loathe to lose a second player so I'm happy to bump up to 48h quickhost for the sake of Septimius Severus.

Whoever's starting closest to Agartha has just been given a free E5 gem site, however...

[Zapmeister]

Hmm. If Agartha is staling, then quickhost is effectively disabled and turns will drag out to two days. Is it possible to get Agartha switched to AI?

[Lokean]

That would certainly be the plan if we went to 48h, yes. Though as I say, it's a lovely gift for the nearest nation (let's all hope it's not Ulm...)

[Lokean]

A friend has loaded up Agartha and set it to AI.

[Septimius Severus]

It's a bit soon to switch to 48 hours in my opinion. Especially considering that turns at this point take about 5 minutes to complete, if even.

For me, it is not matter of the time to complete the turn but rather the time I have available to download, boot up, play, and e-mail my turn back. I sometimes don't play everyday, but every other day and it is more convienent for me to upload my turn when I'm online the following day.

[Aristander]

The winds whip across the barren landscape. Deep within the scared caverns on which the ancients carved occult symbols of arcane knowledge, Vesta Princess of Witchcraft, Goddess of Fishermen is uncovering ancient legends of dark wisdom. This strange knowledge is helping her call hero's back from the dead to expand the Ermorian Empire.

Vesta will grant you life after death. You must all join with the Dark Goddess.

[Zapmeister]

For me, it is not matter of the time to complete the turn but rather the time I have available to download, boot up, play, and e-mail my turn back. I sometimes don't play everyday, but every other day and it is more convienent for me to upload my turn when I'm online the following day.

Yeah, its often finding the time to play that's hard (more so than the time to actually execute the turn) especially in the early turns.

But one thing that can speed up the game by almost a factor of two is if the person that takes the last turn (the turn that triggers hosting) can hang around a few more minutes and play the next turn as well.

Just a suggestion.

[Lokean]

Y'know, he's got a point. Septimius Severus, you were the last player to take a turn last round, so five minutes after you mailed in your orders you should have received another turn. Surely it's better to take it straight away, while you're still running Dominions?

[Aristander]

Ermor is on the move. More and more faithful are returning from the realm of the dead to serve. Vesta princess of witchcraft goddess of fisherman is swiftly obtaining the dark occult wisdom of the ancients. All hail Vesta the true goddess, she who will soon release the assembly of the royal ancestors to infest the world.
Ia Ia Ia.

[Septimius Severus]

Y'know, he's got a point. Septimius Severus, you were the last player to take a turn last round, so five minutes after you mailed in your orders you should have received another turn. Surely it's better to take it straight away, while you're still running Dominions?

Yeah, although, as the game progresses I need more and more time to plan my moves, adjust my scripts, etc., especially me being a noob and all. Quite a bit of micromanagement it seems. I wonder if there is anyway to route production queues to a certain province (waypoints), like in Space Empires.

[Lokean]

Alas, no, there's no pathing commands. But I'm sure you can't be having a micromanagement problem yet, can you?

On the subject of scripts, are you aware that you can save a commander's script and paste it into another commander? It's [ctrl]+[number key] to store a list of commands on the army setup panel and [number key] while mousing over another commander to paste them in.

[Lokean]

Due to the immanent stale turns from two players and the fact I'm going to bed, I'm going to delay hosting by 12 hours. I'd rather wait 12 hours (or less, depending on quickhosting) than have two players lose a turn this early on.

[Septimius Severus]

Alas, no, there's no pathing commands. But I'm sure you can't be having a micromanagement problem yet, can you?

On the subject of scripts, are you aware that you can save a commander's script and paste it into another commander? It's [ctrl]+[number key] to store a list of commands on the army setup panel and [number key] while mousing over another commander to paste them in.

Not yet, but I always like to deliberate and consider my options. Says something about the excellent strategic elements of the game.

I suppose that since troops cannot move without a commander, waypoints or pathing would be out of the question.

Thanks, did not know about those script saving keys. Any way to have paid recruitment (and some ritual recruitment) automatically join a designated or default commander in a province? Garrison just sticks em in the middle of the battlefield, I'm guessing with some default commands or under a PD commander.

[Lokean]

Not as far as I'm aware. I seem to remember that if you assign a unit's own freespawn to it subsequent freespawn join the squad, but that's the only case I can think of where recruits don't go straight into the garrison.

[Aristander]

The air is filled with the smell of horses, dust and sweat. The ancestors are returning soon the Whirlwind will be ready. The desolate but holy waste seems a perfect place for Vesta, princess of witchcraft, goddess of fisherman to raze her army of the dead. Her power grows and soon many more lands will be enthralled by the Emorian Empire.

[Lokean]

Ashdod has requested a delay from the 8th to 11th. If nobody has a problem with that I'll delay hosting on monday.

[Lokean]

I've just suffered a crippling bug, which is annoying. Thankfully, the hosting has been delayed for Ashdod anyway, so I might be able to get it resolved, but it's possible I'll have to roll back the turn (if that even works)...

[Zapmeister]

Please try to avoid a rollback if at all possible.

[Fakeymcfake]

I don't know if anyone has noticed but Marignon has been stale for the past three turns and I doubt that will change anytime soon. I'd also recommend not bothering looking for a replacement as even if we did find one by the looks of things they wouldn't be hanging around much longer.

I'd suggest just setting it to AI and moving on.

[Lokean]

Agreed. Looking at the graphs, he just expanded and recruited mages. There's a fair amount of research but that's basically it. I'm afraid I have no minions handy, so I'll have to log in and set him AI myself. At this point, it probably doesn't matter though.

[Fakeymcfake]

I'm backing out of this game. In all honesty I'm finding this nation frustrating and coupled with my starting position, somewhat lackluster luck from the outset of the game and lack of any attempts at diplomacy from any nation I've run into (really I feel like I've been playing against the AI) I've really no interest in continuing.

However, rather than phoning it in and allowing myself to be eliminated, simply disappearing with the nation set to AI, or just letting myself stall into non-existence I'm letting you know so that you (or I) have a chance to find a replacement. I'll continue playing for a few more turns or until I find someone new, whichever comes first. All in all my situation isn't that bad; a fair amount of land, half decent research, a few armies up and about, so someone coming in won't have a completely hamstrung nation to work with.

Anyhow, I'll stick around for three more turns. If after that time a replacement hasn't been found I'll either set it to AI or let it stall in hopes of someone being found, up to you guys.

[Lokean]

Do people want to postpone hosting over Christmas?

[Aristander]

I would not mind a short delay.
Merry Christmas
Aristander

[Aristander]

Oops sorry for the stale turn. GMT and the holiday messed me up.

[Lokean]

With four stale turns and three received I'm afraid I'm going to roll back. It would be silly not to.

For those who did not stale, your turns will remain on the llamaserver. If you attacked one of the nations that staled their turn you may wish to bear in mind that they may 'preempt' the attack since they are now aware that it was ordered. In the interests of all players I suggest you delete your .2h files and play the previous turn again.

[Zapmeister]

With four stale turns and three received I'm afraid I'm going to roll back. It would be silly not to.

Well, I think that's arguable, especially without any consultation. People know what the deadline is, and they're supposed to post here if they want an extension. Failing to do that, then failing to submit a turn, is not a reason for a rollback, IMHO. Rollbacks are last-resort options for fixing bugs in the game.

On a completely different subject, if anyone knows of someone that would like to take over my (quite strong) Vanheim position, please let me know.

Zap.

[Septimius Severus]

With four stale turns and three received I'm afraid I'm going to roll back. It would be silly not to.


Usually, it does not matter to me as I understand it may be in the best interests of the game, however I am inclined to agree with Zapmeister here. Provided (and you will remember I had asked that players have at least 48 hours to submit) everyone has had at least 48 hours to submit, that should be ample time to either submit or notify someone.

I understand that 48 hours may seem a bit long at the beginning of a game, in practice though, most people would not need to use it (especially during the first few turns), but just in case it would be there for people who have things to do other than play Dominions, wonderful as it is, or something unexpected comes up.

[Lokean]

I've not yet enacted a rollback, I've just delayed the current turn for a few days. It doesn't effect me at all, since I'm not even interacting with the nations that staled, but it may have had a very strong impact on those players. Yes, I could just carry on, but that seems harmful to the state of the game; I could be wrong in that conclusion, of course.

I see that some of the players that staled last turn have submitted a .2h file this turn, so I assume they're happy to carry on?

[Aristander]

My nation is big enough that one stale turn is not going to adversely effect me.
Forward.
Aristander

[Lokean]

Forward it is, then.

Sorry for the disruption, it seems people are more interested in playing than in worrying about a few missing orders; and who can blame them...

[Lingchih]

It seems I will be taking Vanheim over from the Zapmeister. In reading this thread, there seem to have been a lot of drops. How many players actually remain?

And no, I am not a newbie, but a very experienced player. This does not mean you can't kill me though. I've been killed by noobs before. :)

Anyway, any treaties that were in place will remain in place for now. Please PM me if you would like to discuss any diplomatic relations.

[Septimius Severus]

It seems I will be taking Vanheim over from the Zapmeister. In reading this thread, there seem to have been a lot of drops. How many players actually remain?

You may want to ask Lokean, but from what I can tell there seems to be seven humans left:

Arcoscephale
Shinuyama
Ermor
Ashdod
R'lyeh
Ulm
Vanheim

[Alneyan]

I'm on holidays and remembered to take the CD but forgot to take my CD-key with him. Oops. Sorry about that :(

My Shinuyama isn't a major power and isn't at war now (I think), so you could probably let me stale and be happy with it. Alternatively, I'd be perfectly happy to hand over the nation to a permanent sub. It's not in a great shape, though... I think it'd be more of a challenge for you Lingchin if you went for it :)

[Lingchih]

For whatever reason, I did not get the turn file. I sent a PM to Lokean, but for now I have no way to do my turn.

And thanks, Alneyan. But I already told Zapmeister that I would take over for him.

[Zapmeister]

For whatever reason, I did not get the turn file. I sent a PM to Lokean, but for now I have no way to do my turn.

I received a re-send of the turn, so I suspect that the change-of-email hasn't taken effect.

[Lingchih]

Still no word from Lokean, so I will probably be staling this turn, unless you want to go ahead and do it Zap.

[Lingchih]

Hmm. Does anyone know if Lokean is even still adminning this game? This looks like a dead game to me.

Not much of a concern for me, since I was just subbing. Thought I should post though.

[Septimius Severus]

Given the above circumstances and the fact I may need a bit more time I propose a delay of 24 hours (if not already built in) from the current hosting time.

In the future it may be necessary to discuss a 72 hour hosting interval.

[Septimius Severus]

Hmm. Does anyone know if Lokean is even still adminning this game? This looks like a dead game to me.

Not much of a concern for me, since I was just subbing. Thought I should post though.

The games not dead, far as I can tell, aparently Lokean has been busy moving to London or something and so we've had a few days respite.

[Aristander]

Ok I am confused, What turn are we on?

[Septimius Severus]

Ok I am confused, What turn are we on?


It looks like the turn hosted anyway (probably because Lokean hasn't been on to see the messages), now on 28.

It looked to me like only 2 nations had submitted their turns for the last turn (number 27), and I'm likely to get clobbered in a certain province unless a roll back can be accomplished. As much as I hate to suggest it.

[Lingchih]

Who would roll it back? We haven't heard from Lokean in some time.

[Septimius Severus]

Who would roll it back? We haven't heard from Lokean in some time.

Quite true. Though Lokean may be back soon, at least that was my hope according to one his posts in another game. Perhaps those in the Chronicles games know more.

[Lingchih]

Hey, don't be sad boys, it happens all the time. A newbie decides to host a game, then bows out.

My apologies to Lokean if this was indeed a bad circumstance that made him leave the game.

[Lingchih]

And so I am proven wrong. I have finally been set to Vanheim, and so, am now in the game. Thanks Lokean, or whoever did it.

Strange the game seems to be on a 7 day timer now though. I have never heard of a 7 day timer. The longest I have ever seen was 4 day, in the late stages of the first megagame.

[Aristander]

I am glad of signs of life for this game. I just don't want to play the next turn if we are going to roll back.
Just to be clear I think we should roll back but I am ok with whatever everyone wants.

Vesta the peace maker

[Zapmeister]

Lokean has just messaged me and gave me the admin password, asking me to take over.

Anyone want to volunteer?

[Lingchih]

Well since you wanted out of the game in the first place Zap, it doesn't seem very fair for you to have to admin it now.

I can take over, unless someone else wants to.

[Lingchih]

OK. I'm the admin now. Assuming we all don't want to wait until next Monday for this thing to host, how long do we all want? 48 hour hosting?

And no, I'm not going to roll it back. Let's just make a fresh start from here.

[SteelyDan]

Thanks for taking over Lingchih. 48h is good for me.

[Lingchih]

The hosting interval is set to 48 hours already, actually, but Zap had put a 120 hour hosting delay on, which is why it won't host until Monday.

If everyone will get their turn in though, I will go ahead and force host it. Lokean has staled the last 3 turns, so if it ends up that he is the only one we are waiting on, I'll go ahead and force host then too.

Also, if we don't hear from Lokean soon, we should probably just set him to AI.

[Zapmeister]

The hosting interval is set to 48 hours already, actually, but Zap had put a 120 hour hosting delay on, which is why it won't host until Monday.

Actually, it wasn't me. I think Lokean did some last minute administration (perhaps from an internet cafe) that included changing Vanheim's email, the hosting interval and sending me the password.

It looks an awful lot like he suffered an unforeseen crisis with his network connectivity.

[Lingchih]

The Admin password has been changed. Only I admin the game now.

[Lingchih]

No problem. This will be a hard admin from now on though. If you do not play a turn consecutively, you will be ousted.

Unless, of course, you submit some reason for a delay.

[Septimius Severus]

Well it is good to get the game going again, as long as someone is running it. 48hrs is fine for now, If I need more time on a turn or need to request a delay I'll both PM or E-mail (whichever you prefer) the new Admin Lingchih, and post a message on this forum for everyone else.

We could look for a sub for Lokean, it shouldn't be too hard to find, given that nations' supposed edge in most games.

I'll have my turn in soon.

[Lingchih]

Still waiting on Shin, Ashdod, and (of course) R'lyeh. What do you guys want to do?

[Septimius Severus]

Still waiting on Shin, Ashdod, and (of course) R'lyeh. What do you guys want to do?

Should it be decided not to seek a sub for R'lyeh, I would ask that R'lyeh be allowed to stale for a few more turns before switching him to AI, he's got a rather menacing SC pretender in a location most inconvienent to me, and I'd like to kill it off before the comp takes over.

[Lingchih]

Well, I think I will force host this thing tomorrow night. Any objections?

[Aristander]

I have no objections.

[Lingchih]

OK, hearing no objections, I will force host this tomorrow after I get home from work. As far as any nations that will be staling... well, jump 'em folks. They are easy takings.

This will still leave at least four players in the game, which is acceptable for this size map.

[Lingchih]

Hmm, another delay. The admin password I was given is incorrect.

I think this game may be jinxed.

[Lingchih]

Well, hang in there folks. I guess we will host on Monday, and then go back to 48 hour host. Hopefully, at some point, Lokean gets back online and can give me the right password to admin the game.

[Septimius Severus]

Well, hang in there folks. I guess we will host on Monday, and then go back to 48 hour host. Hopefully, at some point, Lokean gets back online and can give me the right password to admin the game.

It looks that way. The game will host on Monday and run on auto-pilot (so to speak) hosting every 48 hours till either Lokean returns, or someone (such as Llamabeast) can reset or change the admin password. I've been putting off getting into another game as yet, was hoping to play this weekend, but I guess we'll have to wait.

[Lingchih]

OK. We're back folks. 48 hour host from now on I guess. Please don't ask for any admin stuff yet though. Still don't have the password.

Good Luck!

[Lingchih]

Llamabeast has given me a new password. So I can now actually admin the game.

Good luck everyone. It appears my armies are almost unstoppable, though I am woefully behind on research. Need to rectify that.

[Lingchih]

Well, Shin has staled six times in a row now, and R'lyeh 7 times in a row. I'm afraid I am going to have to set them to AI, unless someone can find a sub in a hurry. Playerless nations just staling every turn are too easy for their neighbors to wipe out, and gain an unfair advantage.

If someone can find subs for them before the next turn, then I will hold off.

Ulm also staled last turn, but has been getting turns in regularly before that, so I'll let them go on.

[Septimius Severus]

It appears my armies are almost unstoppable, though I am woefully behind on research. Need to rectify that.

Woe to us Newbs.

[Septimius Severus]

Well, Shin has staled six times in a row now, and R'lyeh 7 times in a row. I'm afraid I am going to have to set them to AI, unless someone can find a sub in a hurry. Playerless nations just staling every turn are too easy for their neighbors to wipe out, and gain an unfair advantage.

If someone can find subs for them before the next turn, then I will hold off.

Ulm also staled last turn, but has been getting turns in regularly before that, so I'll let them go on.

This game is shedding players like mad. We are practically down to 4 players on a 300 province map. Need to find out who is still active.

It might be worth trying to find a sub for R'lyeh, as he's not too far behind in terms of provinces at 20. I for one am in no rush. I say give it two or three turns before dropping R'lyeh, find out whether Ulm's still in or not, post a request as the admin for a sub for R'lyeh, if not found, I'll take care of the pesky pretender and you can switch em to AI.

[Aristander]

I am playing Ermor and am still here. I have 40+ territories all indies. Until this turn the only non indi nation I have met is Vanheim. It has been less of a challenge then single player so far. My hope is that it will become more interesting in a few more turns.

[Lingchih]

OK. I will post for a sub for R'lyeh (though I don't think we'll get one), and set Shin to AI.

[Lingchih]

Actually, can't set Shin to AI. Apparently, I need someone not in the game to do so.

I'll see who I can find someone to do so.

Man, that is annoying. Anyway to fix this Llamma?

[Lingchih]

Shin has been set to AI, by a third party.

[Lingchih]

Ulm staled again. That makes four stales. Ulm, please try and get your turns in. This will be a much more interesting game with five players instead of four, and I see from the graphs that you are actually quite strong.

In other news, you guys better race me for Shin. I'm gobbling them up pretty quickly now.

And still no bites on someone taking over R'lyeh. I'll wait one more turn before having someone set them to AI. If it is in your best interest to not have R'lyeh go AI, you should probably start trying to coerce a friend to take them over. Don't really care myself... I only vaguely even know where they are.

[Septimius Severus]

It's in my best interest to rid myself of their pretender as soon as possible :), but it may take 1 or more turns to do this, developing breathing means, sending in spell casters,etc, all of which I'm doing now, shouldn't be long, perhaps we'll get a sub before then, but do as you see fit, as the admin. I'll be using the full turn time, as I am very busy currently, so R'leyh staling is not a time issue, though they'll definately have a good some of money stored up.

[Lingchih]

Another stale for Ulm. Ahh, tell me it isn't so. Ashdod must be running roughshod over them while they stale.

[Lingchih]

And, Ulm staled again... he must be out. On the bright side, the last four of us seem to be getting our turns in on time with some regularity.

I actually don't have any more favors to call in for getting someone to set R'lyeh and Ulm to AI. So just run over them folks.

[Septimius Severus]

If there are no objections, I'd like to request a delay of game anywhere from 24-72 hours, whatever is acceptable, I don't want to hold anyone up.

[Lingchih]

Game has been delayed by 24 hours. Just let me know if you need more Septimius.

[Septimius Severus]

Game has been delayed by 24 hours. Just let me know if you need more Septimius.

I could use another 24 hrs.

[Lingchih]

Game has been delayed by an additional 24 hours.

[Lingchih]

That wasn't nice, Ermor. Casting the Wrath of god. I lost nineteen units.

There may have to be some retribution for that.

[Aristander]

Well Lingchih I was really after everyone else. You lost about 1/4 of the heretics killed this turn. Quite a nasty spell indeed.

[Lingchih]

Interesting game. It seems there will be like 3 (or maybe 4) superpowers when all the indies and AI nations have been conquered. Should be quite a firefight at the end.

[Lingchih]

Turn 40. We can go to 72 hour host now if anyone wants to do so. I think it would be a mistake though. I think we need to keep interest up in the game, since we are down to four players.

[Septimius Severus]

Turn 40. We can go to 72 hour host now if anyone wants to do so. I think it would be a mistake though. I think we need to keep interest up in the game, since we are down to four players.

I am definately in favor of a switch to 72 hours. Especially with soon 40-50 provinces each to manage and with my busy schedule. I don't lose interest because of time. Though, I can understand it if you'd rather wait till we finish off Ulm and R'lyeh before making the switch to enable quickhost to work as intended.

I for one would prefer more time though, as I'm barely able to get in my turns as it is.

[Lingchih]

Switch to 72 hour host it is then.


Please, everyone, remember the game.

[Lingchih]

I'll switch it right after this turn. I don't want to add another 72 hours onto this turn (which is how it works).

[Lingchih]

Volunteers have been found, and R'lyeh and Ulm will be set to AI (in fact, R'lyeh is already AI - VFB is fast!).

Prepare yourselves. The AI is dumb, but it will be rich.

[Lingchih]

Yeah Baby! Now we got us a game. Shin's unkillable Wyrm pretender annihilated my storming force, Ulm has busted out, and R'lyeh is on the move (on me no less). Now this is more like it.

[Septimius Severus]

Yeah Baby! Now we got us a game. Shin's unkillable Wyrm pretender annihilated my storming force, Ulm has busted out, and R'lyeh is on the move (on me no less). Now this is more like it.

Thanks a bunch! :mad:

I'd rather have my armies where they are needed most: sitting on your border! :)

[Lingchih]

Arco has staled. Please do not stale again Arco. I can delay the game if needed. Just ask. We are down to four, with easy AI nations to pick off (well, relatively easy). I'd like to keep us all in the game.

[Lingchih]

Shinuyama is effectively dead. His Wyrm has been killed, and his capitol taken by my forces of Vanheim. There are a few scattered provs left. Vanheim claims 173 and all of the provs south of there. You guys can have the other few. (The river that runs north of 173 shall be our border).

Oh, and we don't care about the water provs or any provs Shin might have on the other continent. Just taking his land provs on this continent.

[Septimius Severus]

Shinuyama is effectively dead. His Wyrm has been killed, and his capitol taken by my forces of Vanheim. There are a few scattered provs left. Vanheim claims 173 and all of the provs south of there. You guys can have the other few. (The river that runs north of 173 shall be our border).

Not so fast, I claim 102 (Tonsvag) in the name of Ashdod, we've lost too many troops trying to take that province, it is ours by right of blood.

[Lingchih]

No, I claim Tonsvag, on the fact that Shin was the last one to own it, not you. Also, it supports my Shin cap, and makes a clear border at the river.

In fact, I am moving massive armies in there this turn. If you want it you will have to fight me for it.

[Septimius Severus]

No, I claim Tonsvag, on the fact that Shin was the last one to own it, not you. Also, it supports my Shin cap, and makes a clear border at the river.

In fact, I am moving massive armies in there this turn. If you want it you will have to fight me for it.

I see no reason to war yet over this single province, when there are two full blown AI empires yet to be claimed. Let us say whoever gets there first shall have it (and I've already got a scout there) :).

[Lingchih]

Well, that will probably be a dead scout after this turn, but if you take it first, I will relinquish it to you.

[Lingchih]

OK, it looks like I took that prov first. Sorry about the army you sent in there, but I believe the prov is now mine fair and square.

[Septimius Severus]

OK, it looks like I took that prov first. Sorry about the army you sent in there, but I believe the prov is now mine fair and square.

Darn!:doh:

[Lingchih]

Well, I believe Arco and Ermor are doing the job on Agartha, so that just leaves R'lyeh to put away. Anyone got a water queen to take them out? If not, I'll get to work on one.

[Aristander]

Actually I am just lost 150 undead horseman attacking R'lyeh's capital. Fear not I am sending in reinforcements. I also have my Eye on Agartha. We will see how they like Tartarians.

[Lingchih]

Hehe. The AI doesn't usually take too well to Tarts.

[Lingchih]

Ahh, hint. You guys might want to get your Blood game up. These blood summons are coming pretty easily to me.

Posted..., because I'm a vet, and this is a noob game. Just trying to pass some information out.

[Septimius Severus]

Posted..., because I'm a vet, and this is a noob game. Just trying to pass some information out.

Don't think I forgot about that fact!

[Lingchih]

So, Arco and Ermor take out Agartha and R'lyeh, Ashdod takes out Ulm, and I sit around and twiddle my thumbs for a while. Then we get the party started. Sound good everyone?

Actually, I might have a little go at Agartha myself, just to speed things up a bit.

[Septimius Severus]

So, Arco and Ermor take out Agartha and R'lyeh, Ashdod takes out Ulm, and I sit around and twiddle my thumbs for a while. Then we get the party started. Sound good everyone?

Actually, I might have a little go at Agartha myself, just to speed things up a bit.

So will I if I can get there.

[Lingchih]

Well, I'm going in to the water after all. It's all that is left for me. Anyone with me?

[Septimius Severus]

Well, I'm going in to the water after all. It's all that is left for me. Anyone with me?

R'lyeh's prophet is still around and in my vicinity slowing my water acquistions down a bit.

[Lingchih]

Well, Okie dokey. I guess I go in mostly alone. Made a big old barrel of air. 75 skinshifters underwater should do some damage.

[Lingchih]

Yep. 75 skinshifters did the trick, and Shin is finally completely gone. And wow, this ocean looks ripe for the taking. Nothing but indies and a weak R'lyeh down here. Nice.

And I've built a nice castle right in the middle of Agartha's peninsula. I can launch attacks from there. We may be able to get this back to a normal game soon (maybe within 10 turns). A normal game meaning, we beat the crap out of each other instead of conquering AI nations.

[Lingchih]

Llama is back up. Let's get that turn in please, Ermor.

[SteelyDan]

That last comment was type #5 right?

[Lingchih]

Correct!

Though it would be nice if Ermor would get it's turn in this week.

[Lingchih]

Please upgrade to the new version. The Llamaserver has been upgraded.

And Ermor, could you please get your turn in? Thanks.

Hmmph. I hope Ermor has not abandoned this game. We would have to call it then, with only 3 nations remaining.

[Aristander]

My apologies, just a busy schedule lately, and the server was down when I checked on Monday.

Anyway turn in and the next turn as well. This is starting to get exciting!

[Aristander]

Oh buy the way the Sea belongs to the Undead in case you somehow did not figure that out already.

[Lingchih]

Oh buy the way the Sea belongs to the Undead in case you somehow did not figure that out already.

I'm only taking the small portion that used to be Jomon, and one R'lyeh castle that is bugging me because it is right next to me. 2 provs total. You can fight with Ashdod over the rest of it.

[Septimius Severus]

I assume you'll be resetting the hosting interval at some point.

[Lingchih]

It's on 48 hour. I thought that was what it was on before.

Do you need a delay?

[Septimius Severus]

It's on 48 hour. I thought that was what it was on before.

Do you need a delay?

Actually is was on 72, per my request some time back. It might be advisable, or changing the interval.

[Lingchih]

Are you sure it was on 72? I almost never change a game to 72, unless it's really late, late game. But then, my memory is horrible. Show me some proof, please, like a post, showing it was on 72, and I will change it.

Nevermind, I see the post. I will reset it back to 72.

[Lingchih]

Oops. In trying to reset the timer on the game, I inadvertently postponed the game for like a week. Well, get your turns in as soon as you can I guess. It's still on autohost, so when everyone is in it will host.

And dammit Aristander! Let's coordinate this stuff. I thought you were attacking R'lyeh, not Agartha. My air queen got a permanent affliction fighting off your longdead horse.

[Aristander]

Well that was a nasty turn.

I lost 600 undead against R'lyeh's capital and 200 to Van's Air Queen. Good thing Undead are expendable.

As far as the air queen goes sorry about the affliction, but I thought I was to sweep down the west side of the map. I certainly did not expect you to take the province next to my fortress.

On the bright side, I did not send a Tatarian along with that army, I almost did.

[Lingchih]

Ok Aristander. All is forgiven. I'll move her out. I was just trying to get some breathing room around my new castle. I'll move her to the south, where Agartha is all turtled up.

[Lingchih]

You're up Septimius. We're just waiting on you.:)

[Lingchih]

Are you seriously going to take until Thursday to do your turn Sept? I mean, I'm sorry... I screwed up the hosting schedule. But all you have to do is post your turn to get us back on track.

[Lingchih]

Vanhiem has ended it's NAP pact with Ashdod. I can only take so much procrastination. We shall be at war three turns from now.

[Septimius Severus]

Vanhiem has ended it's NAP pact with Ashdod. I can only take so much procrastination. We shall be at war three turns from now.

Sorry, been a bit busy, I'm not procrastinating. I'll have may turn in by Monday night, not Thursday.

Your just spoiling for a fight huh? Can't wait till the AI's are finished huh?

If that is the way you want it so be it.

[Lingchih]

Allright, if you can get your turn in soon, we will not end the NAP. It's just been so long, I am forgetting what the heck I am doing in the game.

[Lingchih]

I like your new avatar Aristander. God from the Holy Grail, I believe :)

[Septimius Severus]

Hmm, my turn is ready, but I'm having some Internet issues, if my access is not fixed by tonight around 4 or 5 GMT, Lingchih, I'll need a delay, say 24 to start. It May be better just to put in an extra 24 hours just in case, as soon as you can, just to be on the safe side in case you don't get a chance to monitor the server around hosting time.

Thanks.

[Aristander]

I like your new avatar Aristander. God from the Holy Grail, I believe :)

Yes you are correct, I thought the avatar was very appropriate.

Thank You.

[Lingchih]

-"Good idea, oh Lord"

-"Of course it's a good idea!"

And, oh, the game is delayed 24 hours.

Edit: Never mind. I see Ashdod just got his turn in.

[Lingchih]

:doh:
Lost an Ice Devil when I left him underwater and removed his water breathing gear for some reason. I hate it when I do that. So, there's an Ice Devil up for grabs.

In other news, I notice the Chalice is gone. Hmm, I wonder who could have taken it? :mad:

[Aristander]

Seek the Grail and you will find only, Death.

The Chalice is most useful for Tartarians, cures all those nasty afflictions gained in Tartarus don't you know.:)

[Lingchih]

Oh, yes it is. And maybe you could loan it to me? Gift of Health should work for you just fine.

[Lingchih]

tick, tock, tick, tock. Oh, what the hell. Take your time Ashdod. I'd kind of like to get this game done before I go on vacation in May though.

[Septimius Severus]

I occasionally post something useful.


This, I agree with.

[Lingchih]

Hmm. That looks like an invasion army, and not on an AI border, Ermor. I hope it is not meant for me.

Anyway, AI's are about dead. Near enough anyway. Let's go ahead and start killing each other, eh? I am ending NAP with Arco and Ashdod. Not saying that I am attacking. Just ending the NAPs. I will keep the NAP with Ermor, since he is a big hulking brute all along my northern border, and I don't want to piss him off.

[Lingchih]

Ending NAPs means in three turns, of course.

[Septimius Severus]

Ending NAPs means in three turns, of course.

Quit your bellyaching and whining. If you feel I'm not getting my turns in fast enough, boot me, if you think it is taking too long for the AI's to die then attack us already.

[Lingchih]

No Sept, you get me all wrong. I'm not critical of you. I know you take a long time to do your turns. I'm fine with that. I just feel that it is time for us to start taking on each other. The game has gone stale just killing AI's, and they are almost gone.

[SteelyDan]

So be it. We will dance.

[Aristander]

Well all I know is that I have been pounding R'lyeh's capital the last 4 turns and his pretender manages to rout my army after he banishes a horde of undead. My Tartarian Cyclops just lost his only eye and now I have to send him back to my fortress to heal.
In other words I am having enough problems with the AI for now.

[Lingchih]

Eh, who the hell is SteelyDan, and why is he posting here?

Anyway, if you guys are still having trouble with the AI's, then I will hold off. I am still ending the NAPs, but I won't attack anyone. Fair enough?

[SteelyDan]

Erm... You don't know who I am Lingchih? And yet you've replied to at least one post of mine in the past on this thread... interesting. Selective post awareness?

I'm Arco...

[Septimius Severus]

Arghh. AI just killed off my pretender! Hmm, I wonder if this call god thing works.

[Lingchih]

Sorry Steely. Guess I just haven't chatted with you much. Forgot who you were.

[Lingchih]

Arghh. AI just killed off my pretender! Hmm, I wonder if this call god thing works.

Call god works, but it can take quite a while. I forget the exact number of priest levels needed calling, but I believe it is more than 50 (cumultive each turn).

Another interesting fact about it is the AI cheats with call god, and will often have it's pretender back in just a turn or two, while still doing other things.

[Lingchih]

Ok, so after next turn, NAPs are up. I want to stress that this does not mean I am at war with anyone. Just that the NAPs are ended.

[SteelyDan]

Sorry Steely. Guess I just haven't chatted with you much. Forgot who you were.

S'okay. Sometimes I forget that too :)

[Septimius Severus]

Ok, so after next turn, NAPs are up. I want to stress that this does not mean I am at war with anyone. Just that the NAPs are ended.

Honestly, I never knew there were any NAPs in effect, I do remember suggesting way back when, that we should deal with the AI's first before attacking each other, but I suppose that could be regarded as the same thing.

[Lingchih]

Ok, so after next turn, NAPs are up. I want to stress that this does not mean I am at war with anyone. Just that the NAPs are ended.

Honestly, I never knew there were any NAPs in effect, I do remember suggesting way back when, that we should deal with the AI's first before attacking each other, but I suppose that could be regarded as the same thing.

Well, I know I have one with Ermor, and I guess I just assumed I had one with you guys as well. And I still feel like we should pretty much wipe out the remaining AIs before attacking each other. I just wanted to be sure I did not have NAPs in place with you guys, in case 2 or more of us are greedily eyeing a choice province.

[Lingchih]

On an aside note, to Ermor. I don't think I can accept your claim have to all the remaining water provs. You seem to be barely moving into the water, while I take the brunt of the R'yleh attacks. I'm afraid I have to take the battle to R'lyeh, to protect my own interests.

[Aristander]

My ocean statement was mostly "bravado" as I figured with my hordes of undead getting into the water would be easy. R'lyeh's capital has slowed my expected expansion. His capital will fall within the next couple of turns and then I should be able to sweep through the ocean.

I will not take it amiss if Vanheim enters the sea.

[Lingchih]

Yeah, R'lyeh can be a *****, even under AI control. I'll take the water provs I consider important to keeping R'lyeh off of me.

[Septimius Severus]

Need to request a delay, + 48 hours.

[Septimius Severus]

On second thought, it might be better to just let me stale 2 or 3 turns, I wouldn't want to delay the game for everyone else, at this point it's not really critical, only AI's to kill. Expect to be back in a week.

[Lingchih]

Maybe you could find a sub Sept?

I promise not to attack you while you are out, anyway.

[Lingchih]

Well, it kind of seems that Sept Sev has dropped out, for a while at least. Do you guys want to continue? I'm still having fun, and I think there are some major, awesome battles to come between us.

[Aristander]

I agree with you Lingchih that the game has the potential for some huge battles. My issue is that as the weather gets nice I have more outdoor responsibilities and less time for Dominions. I am also going away the week of school vacation April 19th. It may be best to stop although I am willing to continue at a slow pace.

[Lingchih]

Well, I'll put another day on the timer, in case anyone decides to do their turn.

[Lingchih]

I have posted a new message on the llamaserver page, reflecting the status of this game. Basically it's just, if you want to keep playing, keep playing, and I will keep up the admin for as long as needed.

I personally have a few things I want to do in the game, so I will most likely keep it going for a few more turns at least. But then, once it becomes just me doing turns, there won't be much point to it.

For any who are quitting the game, please set your nation to AI, so I can test my armies against your built up forces.

Thanks.

[Septimius Severus]

Don't count me out, I'll be able to submit a turn probably as early as Monday, Tuesday at the latest. Yes, I too would like to see some large battles and high level summons. I haven't lost interest in the game.

[SteelyDan]

I've not missed a turn in ages and I don't plan to. I don't believe there's really any reason to quit until there are real problems, more than just a week's delay.

[Lingchih]

Well, OK, if you like. I thought Aristander said he was bowing out though. I don't think I can take an AI Ermor on my border. I'm quite willing to keep playing... actually having a lot of fun. But both Ermor and Ashdod staled this turn, and it will take quite a while for just us 3 to finish the game.

I'll go ahead and set a long host on this turn, so everyone that wants to do so can get a turn in.

[Lingchih]

I have sent a message to Aristander, asking if he would be willing to remain playing if I set the game to 96 hour. If he agrees, we can continue the game, on a 96 hour host. If not, we can still continue the game, but I will be busy killing Ermor. Ok with you guys?

[Septimius Severus]

I have sent a message to Aristander, asking if he would be willing to remain playing if I set the game to 96 hour. If he agrees, we can continue the game, on a 96 hour host. If not, we can still continue the game, but I will be busy killing Ermor. Ok with you guys?

I'm generally the sort who's in a game for the long haul, I'm not perturbed over delays and don't lose interest easy, unless I'm bored.

96, 120, makes no difference to me. Though, I'm afraid we'd probably have an issue with standing by while you gobble up Ermor for yourself, if that should come to pass.

[Lingchih]

Well, we could try to find a sub for him, though I'm a bit doubtful we would be successful. Aristander has so far not responded to me.

I guess, if he just left Ermor to stale away, I could promise not to attack him, and we could just kind of ignore that nation.

OR... I could have someone set Ermor to AI. That would be kind of rough on me, but it would keep me busy, certainly.

[Aristander]

Sorry everyone but between Holy Week and Work this is the first chance I have had to send a message. I should have asked for a delay. I am willing to continue especially if we increase hosting delay. I will try submit my turns in a timely manner.

Thanks

[Lingchih]

I'm glad you decided to continue Aristander. On the conclusion of this turn, I will set the host to 96 hour. Hopefully that will be good for all of us. Of course, the game will take like another year to complete, but what else do we have to do in our downtime :)

[Septimius Severus]

I'm back up. Should have my turn in before the game hosts.

[Lingchih]

Damn. R'lyeh is a tough AI. They just kicked my butt. Better put some thought into this turn.

[Lingchih]

Hmm. I actually set that 96 hour for Aristander. No need to take advantage of it Sept.

[Lingchih]

Well, my parachute drop into the northwest a few turns ago seems to have been a mistake. R'lyeh and now Agartha are kicking my butt. I may have to bug out of there, and let Ermor and Arco handle them.

Jeez, does AI Agartha have every single prov castled? What a nightmare.

[Lingchih]

I will be going on vacation starting May 2. I will be out for 7 days. I will delay the game for that time. If this is not acceptable, please let me know, and I will turn the admin over to someone else, and stale a turn.

[SteelyDan]

Jeez, does AI Agartha have every single prov castled? What a nightmare.

Short answer: Yes. Yes they do.

Pity about that Storm Queen.

[Lingchih]

Jeez, does AI Agartha have every single prov castled? What a nightmare.

Short answer: Yes. Yes they do.

Pity about that Storm Queen.

Yeah, I wasted her. My bad.

[Lingchih]

Stale turn from Ermor. I'm not sure if Aristander is still playing or not.

[Lingchih]

Got a Heliophagus this turn. I'm sure you all are jealous, since I now have almost all the blood summons. Hmm, maybe I will go for a Demon Lord next turn :)

[Lingchih]

So, what do we do about Ermor? I'm open to suggestions.

[Lingchih]

To be more specific, Ermor has staled the last two turns, and will probably not be back. His forces are huge and formidable, and he has globals up.

1) We can end the game now, and call it a draw.

2) I can set Ermor to AI, and we can play on.

3) We can try to find a sub.

PS: I have posted in two places for an Ermor sub.

[PsiSoldier]

Ok It appears I am subbing for Ermor Something I have a bit of experience in as I am also playing MA Ermor In Preponderance which is on almost the same turn that this game is on. Although I have yet to see how similar or dissimilar the builds between this one and mine.

I understand I am not at war with any players in this game other than AI so that's good I guess.

[Lingchih]

You are the permanent Sub Psi. Aristander has quit the game. Hey, it's a 96 hour host game though. No pressure or anything. I have set you to take over Ermor, and you have three days to figure everything out.

Thanks for joining.

Everyone, please welcome PsiSoldier to the game. I am sure he will be a worthy opponent.

[Lingchih]

I should also say that Psi is not held to any NAP's that may have been present before he joined. He is free to do whatever he wants to do.

That said, Psi, I think we are all just trying to kill off the AI nations right now. But feel free to do whatever you want, and that includes attacking me, if you wish.

[Lingchih]

I should also say that Psi is not held to any NAP's that may have been present before he joined. He is free to do whatever he wants to do.

That said, Psi, I think we are all just trying to kill off the AI nations right now. But feel free to do whatever you want, and that includes attacking me, if you wish.

Oh, I am Vanheim. Septimius is Ashdod, and SteelyDan is Arco. All the other nations are AI.

Sorry for the double post.

[PsiSoldier]

Hrrrm I'm guessing the previous Ermor player wasnt the most experienced around... (((3))) Rings of Wizardry on my pretender... When anything over 1 has no effect...

Seems to have been a bit slack on site searching too..

[PsiSoldier]

Yeah I suppose for now I'll just concentrate on AI as you all are.

[Lingchih]

Hrrrm I'm guessing the previous Ermor player wasnt the most experienced around... (((3))) Rings of Wizardry on my pretender... When anything over 1 has no effect...

Seems to have been a bit slack on site searching too..

Yeah, this was a Noob game. Then they asked me to join to liven things up. I can't really say how well Aristander was doing, but he at least seems to have set things up well for you.

[Lingchih]

Hey, good to have you Psi. And I hope you do well. You should have a great arsenal to work with. We are headed into late game now, and it should be interesting.

[PsiSoldier]

Hey, good to have you Psi. And I hope you do well. You should have a great arsenal to work with. We are headed into late game now, and it should be interesting.

Yeah he was busy at least. There is a lot of stuff to look through here, Took me a while just to find my pretender. I think there is a hotkey for that but I don't remember what it was.

I think Ive pretty much figured out what he was doing and how to improve it though.

[PsiSoldier]

I probably will be attacking you with my prophet before long though Lingchih so that you can kill him for me if you don't mind :D

At this point in the game I dont really think I need a prophet reanimating longdead horsemen.

[Septimius Severus]

Assuming Aristander has officially quit, I too welcome Psi Soldier.

Feel free to attack Lingchih as often as you like.:D

[PsiSoldier]

Lol, Winged Shoes on my Faeryqueen... ???

[Lingchih]

I probably will be attacking you with my prophet before long though Lingchih so that you can kill him for me if you don't mind :D

At this point in the game I dont really think I need a prophet reanimating longdead horsemen.

No prob. Just tell me where you are sending him to be killed.

[Lingchih]

Assuming Aristander has officially quit, I too welcome Psi Soldier.

Feel free to attack Lingchih as often as you like.:D

Well, Aristander staled twice in a row without any communication for that same period of time. On a 96 hour host too.Add that to the fact that he had previously quit the game, and only came back because we begged him. I count that as officially quitting.

[PsiSoldier]

Dear God.... Apparently he had the Tax rate in the capital set to 200% for the entire game. :eek::eek::eek: If anyone feels like casting Black Death on my capital or something go right ahead... Wont make a damn bit of difference. Of course I'll have domes up soon enough for what little bit of good it will do.

Heh and I found another commander with double Waterbreathing with a robe AND a ring lol

[Lingchih]

I'm hitting breakneck pass (216) this turn, to try and take my lost castle back from Agartha. It's a pretty substantial force going in there, so if anyone else wants to try and take it, prepare for casualties :)

[SteelyDan]

Lol, Winged Shoes on my Faeryqueen... ???

Maybe she's lazy? Welcome, Psi Soldier. I have to say I found Ermor's choice of global enchants a bit strange as well, although perhaps there are reasons... I'll take the extra rings of wizardry off your hands any time you'd like though.

[Septimius Severus]

Lol, Winged Shoes on my Faeryqueen... ???

Maybe she's lazy? Welcome, Psi Soldier. I have to say I found Ermor's choice of global enchants a bit strange as well, although perhaps there are reasons... I'll take the extra rings of wizardry off your hands any time you'd like though.

If you could dispell that Wrath of God global I think everyone would appreciate it.

[Lingchih]

Well, he can't get rid of it except by killing the caster, which I don't think Psi would want to do. If everyone sends me astral gems I can dispel it though.

[Septimius Severus]

Well, he can't get rid of it except by killing the caster, which I don't think Psi would want to do. If everyone sends me astral gems I can dispel it though.

How many Astral would you need? I tried dispelling it once before but apparently alot was put into it.