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Beorne
November 11th, 2008, 04:02 PM
My Pazuzu SC "Killer of Doom Horror Lords" transformed into it and ascended ... :confused:
What is?

VedalkenBear
November 11th, 2008, 04:05 PM
Ohhh... this I need to know. :)

lch
November 11th, 2008, 04:10 PM
It's some unit which pops up and leaves again on his own whims, for what I know.

Grigorius the Grigori is an ancient being sent to watch the affairs of contending gods. He answers tha call of wishful thinking and will appear and disappear at his own liking.

Wait, "tha call"? That's a typo in the description, just there.

Sombre
November 11th, 2008, 04:24 PM
No, it's just he's a playah. When dawg dun heyahs tha call he ready ta throw down fah reals.

Beorne
November 11th, 2008, 04:25 PM
It appeared to me as the "rightful hand of the dungeon master" ...

Tifone
November 11th, 2008, 04:55 PM
Your Pazuzu turned into it? I think I remember that happened sometimes. It's a very rare bug of a unit turning into another. Being Gregorius unit n.1 seems likely this bug. Sorry for ya :(

Aezeal
November 11th, 2008, 05:14 PM
I know he was created so you can't wish for the powerfull gath etc summons of the same name. your pazazu changing into him problem I know nothing about.. never ever played with pazazu myself.. never live long enough in MP and in SP I usually don't bother

Illuminated One
November 11th, 2008, 05:30 PM
That's a very strange bug.
I have never tested it but there is a spell that makes a unit turn into a horror some turns later.
Maybe Grigorius is classed as a (doom) horror (for the going away effect) and your SC was affected by this spell or a similar effect while severely horrormarked (well, judging from the name...)?

JimMorrison
November 11th, 2008, 05:36 PM
I'm pretty sure Pazuzu's actual title is Prince (or Lord) of the Plague Winds - not whatever was said in the OP. :P

Sombre
November 12th, 2008, 06:30 AM
Maybe it isn't a bug. Maybe it's a way KO added to remove ridiculous SCs from the world.

Or maybe that's what he'll claim it is.

Beorne
November 12th, 2008, 10:24 AM
I'd like to know if Grigorius the Grigori it is a bug or a wad, even if the game was almost finished the vanished sc was very strong and this is an important issue to know.

PS: Is GtG a real in-game unit?

Gregstrom
November 12th, 2008, 10:44 AM
Units turning into Grigorius is probably a bug rather than WAD.

He is a real in-game unit, although you'll only ever see him by Wishing for a Grigori.

Edi
November 12th, 2008, 11:18 AM
Units turning into Grigorius is probably a bug rather than WAD.

He is a real in-game unit, although you'll only ever see him by Wishing for a Grigori.

Yes, it's a bug. A very rare bug that nobody has managed to make consistently reproducible. Before there was a Grigorius the Grigori, there was Old Centurion, a legacy unit from Dom1 that has not been used even in Dom2. So to prevent wishing for the Hinnomite Grigori, Grigorius was added. Before that particular patch, some units sometimes turned into Old Centurions and vanished.

Though if there is some sort of flavor text, it might even be the warped sense of humor Illwinter has sometimes demonstrated. But I doubt it.

Endoperez
November 12th, 2008, 11:25 AM
Grigorius the Grigori exists to prevent anyone wishing for the Hinnom national summons, who are also called Grigori. Because Wish gives you the first creature of that wished-for type that it finds, and Grigorius the Grigori is unit number 1, anyone wishing for a Grigori will get Grigorius instead of the ultra-buff angel-demon game-breaker he thought he'd get.

There's a rare, unrelated bug that resets a commander's unit type to unit type 1. This used to be an orange-shielded (i.e. old graphics from an earlier version) Legionnaire or Standard Bearer of Pythium. Grigorious the Grigori's description refers to him appearing and disappearing at his choice, so now this old bug has become more confusing.

lch
November 16th, 2008, 01:51 PM
No, it's just he's a playah. When dawg dun heyahs tha call he ready ta throw down fah reals.
http://i33.tinypic.com/20tfouu.jpg

Epaminondas
November 19th, 2008, 07:02 PM
Grigorius the Grigori exists to prevent anyone wishing for the Hinnom national summons, who are also called Grigori. Because Wish gives you the first creature of that wished-for type that it finds, and Grigorius the Grigori is unit number 1, anyone wishing for a Grigori will get Grigorius instead of the ultra-buff angel-demon game-breaker he thought he'd get.



I am not sure I see the rationale, because I don't think a Grigori is THAT much more powerful than other elite SC wishables like the Seraph, the Chayot, and some of the four-armed Hindu freaks :)