Bail out negates opfire

[Koh]

While fiddling around I couldn't help noticing that bailing out the crew from a vehicle loaded with troops unloads the vehicle without giving the enemy opfire. Is this intended behaviour? Or a result of "this really needs to be done this way or the game will break"?

- Koh

[Mobhack]

I will have a look at this

Andy

[Warhero]

Koh are you sure that there were even 1 enemy unit somewhere near your vehicle? I mean that enemy had enough firing range to fire your unit and/or there was not any forest/buildings/etc. between vehicle and enemy?

[Cross]

Crews can be very small; could it be that the enemy just didn't spot the crew?


Oh, you are saying the troops were unloaded by bailing out the crew; and the troops weren't shot at.

[Koh]

Koh are you sure that there were even 1 enemy unit somewhere near your vehicle? I mean that enemy had enough firing range to fire your unit and/or there was not any forest/buildings/etc. between vehicle and enemy?

Yeah I'm sure. I've attached a savegame so you can witness the phenomena yourself. First try unloading unit number B2, Merkava MICV. You will trigger around half a dozen opfires. Then reload the saved game and try bailing out that same Merkava MICV. You will trigger no op fires.

- Koh

[Mobhack]

Koh are you sure that there were even 1 enemy unit somewhere near your vehicle? I mean that enemy had enough firing range to fire your unit and/or there was not any forest/buildings/etc. between vehicle and enemy?

Yeah I'm sure. I've attached a savegame so you can witness the phenomena yourself. First try unloading unit number B2, Merkava MICV. You will trigger around half a dozen opfires. Then reload the saved game and try bailing out that same Merkava MICV. You will trigger no op fires.

- Koh

That is because "bailing" a crew is splitting the unit and creating a brand new crew object, which is not the same as the UnloadUnit code to drop pax who are an already extant game object. UnloadUnit has an opfire trigger, SplitUnit itself does not. (That bit of code to split units was originally hidden debug only code for developer testing, but we exposed it as a useful end user function)

Manually splitting a unit now has a subsequent call to the opfire trigger code called on the newly-generated crew unit (both games). Not added to the unit destruction code - as the firer was targeting the vehicle and the generation of a crew is an unintended by-product.

Andy

[Koh]

What about troops carried by the bailed out vehicle? When the vehicle is bailed out the troops get unloaded for free. Will they now trigger opfire as well?

- Koh

[Mobhack]

What about troops carried by the bailed out vehicle? When the vehicle is bailed out the troops get unloaded for free. Will they now trigger opfire as well?

- Koh

Unloading passengers is a completely different event from "bailing" (splitting) a crew, as stated above. Unloading passngers already had the opfire trigger, splitting did not.

Andy

[DRG]

We'll get this sorted out so the passengers don't get a free ride on the unloading when the crew bails

Don

[iCaMpWiThAWP]

Can i make the crew "voluntarily" bail out of a vehicle?Didnt knew that D:, how to?

[DRG]

Press the @ key.

It's in the help file you get when you are playing. Second page about 3/4 of the way down

Don

[iCaMpWiThAWP]

Press the @ key.

It's in the help file you get when you are playing. Second page about 3/4 of the way down

Don
thanks don, i must have skipped this part of the manual

[DRG]

It's in the help screen right in the game. Press ' ? ' while playing and all the shortcut keys are listed

Don