advanced era

[istol]

how does the advanced era actually work in sp ?

what does it protect from and what does it not ?

seems to me pretty random protects against anything when it feels like protecting ?

[Mobhack]

how does the advanced era actually work in sp ?

what does it protect from and what does it not ?

seems to me pretty random protects against anything when it feels like protecting ?

If you need to know the technical nuts and bolts details, then the Mobhack help is the place to go usually.

Mobhack Help -> Units Tab -> ERA Paragraph.


Cheers
Andy

[Imp]

Not wishing to sound rude but take half an hour to read the manuel. Realise it may not be your first language but you ask a lot of questions half of which are covered in it. Anything you then dont understand I will be happy to try & explain if you PM me
John

[Marcello]

And if you are interested in how it works in the real world the following article provides a nice summary.

http://russianarmor.info/Tanks/EQP/era.html

[istol]

is it possible that tank that does not have been hit in combat with advanced era 8 is hit and the hit ignores era completely and hit's the norma larmor instead ?

"Numbers from 1 to 10 on a facing are ordinary ERA. Numbers from 11 to 20 are Advanced ERA"

i have never seen era valua greater than 8 and that was advanced era

why ?

[Marek_Tucan]

Yep, it is possible. Random numbers and all that. Check out say front ERA of T-90 (real-life I mean), you'll notice there are huge gaps around the gun for example.

[Moon Pine]

Several times, my Bradley still got destroyed after its ERA "defeated" the heat.

[redcoat2]

how does the advanced era actually work in sp ?

what does it protect from and what does it not ?


ERA does not always protect against multi charge weapons. To quote the game manual: “Multi charge ATGM have a higher chance of defeating ERA than plain vanilla HEAT.”

Example of a tandem-charge weapon: The Russian RPG-30

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/5309/abramsrpgwo1.jpg

The ‘decoy’ (1) detonates the reactive armour and the main warhead (2) penetrates the compromised area.

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4796/rpg30yv8.jpg

[Marek_Tucan]

Actually no, that small RPG-30 rocket is intended to set off active defence systems (AKA CIWS in-game), the weapon itself is plain jane RPG-27 with tandem warhead against ERA.

[redcoat2]

Actually no, that small RPG-30 rocket is intended to set off active defence systems (AKA CIWS in-game), the weapon itself is plain jane RPG-27 with tandem warhead against ERA.

The small rocket is indeed designed to set off CIWS and the warhead is indeed a plain jane RPG with a tandem warhead. I did not know that CIWS was different from ERA in game terms.

[redcoat2]

I've just looked up the weapon for the RPG-30. According to ARMS-TASS it is designated the PG-30. Is it the same as the RPG-27 or is it somehow different? The PG-30 and RPG-27 are both 105mm with a tandem warhead.

P.S. When I wrote 'warhead' in my earlier posts I sometimes meant 'weapon.' Sloppy English on my part. I would go back and edit my mistakes - but I'm too late now.

[Marek_Tucan]

I believe I saw it in one article that was posted on the topic on Tank-Net - generally RPG-27, plus that little rocket.
RUMINT has it that it was designed for a Mid-Eastern customer, that would give most likely Syria or Iran.

[redcoat2]

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that Venezuela has also shown an interest in the RPG-30.

The game manual says that ‘Multi charge ATGM’ have a higher chance of defeating ERA than plain vanilla HEAT. I’ve assumed that ‘Multi-charge HEAT’ weapons – such as the newer RPGs – also have a higher chance of defeating ERA. Have I assumed too much? In any case, perhaps I should have used a multi charge ATGM as my example.

[DRG]

The game manual says that ‘Multi charge ATGM’ have a higher chance of defeating ERA than plain vanilla HEAT. I’ve assumed that ‘Multi-charge HEAT’ weapons – such as the newer RPGs – also have a higher chance of defeating ERA. Have I assumed too much? In any case, perhaps I should have used a multi charge ATGM as my example.


Yes, Multi-charge HEAT also has a higher chance of defeating ERA. That's what they are designed to defeat.

Don

[iCaMpWiThAWP]

Is DC-HEAT the same thing that multi-charge HEAt?

[Mobhack]

Is DC-HEAT the same thing that multi-charge HEAt?

See the game documentation:

Mobhack Help->Weapons Tab->Weapons Class-> description of class 20+

(class 23 will be the same as for TA-ATGM, but an RPG version, for MBT LAW/NLAW)

Cheers
Andy