Seeking Arrow

[Ornedan]

Under what conditions will a Seeking Arrow spell not hit if a hostile commander is in the target province at the start of a turn? The spell description seems to imply that defense or parry doesn't apply, but am I wrong there?

Context: EA Vanheim had raided my province with Vanjarl + some Mounted Hirdmen. On the next turn, I cast 2 Seeking Arrows at that province, but neither hit the commander.

[Endoperez]

Under what conditions will a Seeking Arrow spell not hit if a hostile commander is in the target province at the start of a turn? The spell description seems to imply that defense or parry doesn't apply, but am I wrong there?

Context: EA Vanheim had raided my province with Vanjarl + some Mounted Hirdmen. On the next turn, I cast 2 Seeking Arrows at that province, but neither hit the commander.

Stealth works against most remote spells, including Seeking Arrow. I think they have to Hide or Sneak to be immune to the spells, which means they aren't attacking another province.

You would probably have noticed if the Vanjarl had an Air Shield item on, but those would help too.

[Ornedan]

Doesn't that mean that it's impossible to use remote spells against stealth raiding?

[archaeolept]

if they alternate each turn by going into stealth mode, then, yes, basically.

Mind hunt still works.

[Redeyes]

Which makes Shadow Seers very irritating, dangerous and annoying. You just can't root them out with attack spells.
Starchildren too, come to think of it.

[Sombre]

Starchildren are pretty underrated. Horrible things to deal with.

[Micah]

The blanket target remotes still work as well, but they're expensive and don't generally do enough concentrated damage to kill what you're looking for...if someone had like 10 shadow seers in one spot for some reason it might be worth a flames from the sky though.

[Festin]

Also true for LA Ulm Illuminated Ones. I wonder what kind of strategy could be based on that.

[Sombre]

I think people have been using them as disruption spies fairly often. They don't have amazing stealth though, do they?

[Dectilon]

Stealth doesn't seem to help against Seeking Arrow. I killed my opponents stealthy rainbow mage with SA during a recent 1v1-game.

[chrispedersen]

they have to be hiding...

[Dectilon]

You mean standing still using hide? Or are you still considered as hiding when using sneak? Because it was during a move.

[Endoperez]

Sneak and Move are different. Sneaking is the same as hiding, and is immune to the Seeking Arrow as far as I know.

[Dectilon]

Maybe it just decreases the chance of getting hit?

[Tifone]

Maybe he was just "moving" instead of sneaking, Dectilon, it would have just taken for him to be leading some non-stealthy troops to make it impossible to sneak around :) At this point, yes, a Seeking Arrow would have hit him.

[Dectilon]

Or maybe... You don't count as sneaking when you search for sites, right?

[Endoperez]

No, only "hide" and "stealth", and things like preach/unrest/assassinate. Unless a stealthy unit is doing a spesifically stealthy action, it's just as visible and vulnerable as any other.