Mictlan Storm Eagles?

[Starshine_Monarch]

I was wondering if blessed Eagle Warriors are still able to fly during storms? If this is possible, I was thinking about the worth of A9 blessed Eagle warriors working with Storm, Thunder Ward (for 100% lightning res) and Wrathful Skies.

Failing that, would I be able to mod these little birdmen to have Stormflight, even though they can only fly when blessed, so I might try a strategy like that out? I realize having Storm up would really make the Air Shield part of the Bless moot, so is there another way that Eagle Warriors can get 100% shock res, so I wouldn't need to use up an otherwise expensive bless?

[Sombre]

You could mod them to have 100% shockres.

[thejeff]

Without modding, and off the top of my head, you could divine bless and Thunder Ward them on the first round so they fly to attack, then cast Storm and Wrathful Skies on the second round.

Of course, you can't use a Staff of Storms so it's harder to pull off.
Not quite as effective either, since they won't be able to fly to the next target once the first drops, but if you're relying on Wrathful skies to do the killing anyway. On the other hand, if you're relying on Wrathful skies to do the killing, you may not want them flying up right away. It's a delaying game at that point, so you'd want to hold them back as long as possible.

[LDiCesare]

I don't think they can fly during storms.

[Meglobob]

100% certain eagle warriors cannot fly in a storm, had it done to me more times than I can count.:)

[Omnirizon]

if they could fly during a storm, that would make MA Mictlan probably the stronger of all Mictlans, since Eagle Warriors really do age better into late game than Jag Warriors. Flying uber blessed troops backed by Turkey mage Communions spamming those long range Air battle spells = no place to hide. Storms are a must against MA Mictlan in late game. I know first hand.

[lch]

The ability to fly during storms isn't moddable as of yet, AFAIK. A number of units which have a strong connection with Air magic (ironically, the Unwinged, even), or the Void, or Horrors, can do it.

Edit: I've been thinking it over, you can try what Sombre used to do: Copystats from a unit that has the flag and then edit it until it fits what you want. You can use the Unwinged (1674), like I wrote. That's the only unit that has the flag and doesn't already have flying.

[Gregstrom]

Curiously, Siddha aren't stormflyers (at least, in Edi's db) despite their description text.

[Omnirizon]

maybe the electrical charge of the storm interferes with their time/space bending abilities.

[ryo_akashi]

Edit: I've been thinking it over, you can try what Sombre used to do: Copystats from a unit that has the flag and then edit it until it fits what you want. You can use the Unwinged (1674), like I wrote. That's the only unit that has the flag and doesn't already have flying.

Except that the eagle warrior has a bless effect that is not moddable either...

[lch]

Oh right, I somehow thought that this was because of the bless for a second there. Nope, not moddable at all, then.

Siddha's aren't storm fliers, that's true.

[vfb]

MA Mictlan is uber enough as it is without storm-flyer Eagle Warriors. And there's no thematic reason that Eagle Warriors should have storm flight. S9F9 is really what you need for a bless. You don't need Wrathful Skies to kill anything, the Eagle Warriors can do that nicely on their own. Try Fog Warriors instead.

[zlefin]

isn't there a #stormimmune mod command to fly during storms? i seem to recall it when last i looked through.

[lch]

Haha, I thought that the OP actually did look into the modding manual before asking. :doh:

[Starshine_Monarch]

Haha, I thought that the OP actually did look into the modding manual before asking. :doh:

That'd be my bad then. I completely forgot about the manual... :doh:

[Edi]

If someone wants to check it, slap #stormimmune on the eagle warrior and see if it affects the flight gained from bless. Easy to test. :)

[Redeyes]

Curiously, Siddha aren't stormflyers (at least, in Edi's db) despite their description text.

Storm immunity would protect them from the precision malus of storm, perhaps that wasn't wanted?

[Edi]

Curiously, Siddha aren't stormflyers (at least, in Edi's db) despite their description text.

The DB is not infallible. If something is only said in the description, it could have been overlooked.

[lch]

No, that's correct, the Siddha's really don't have the ability to fly in storms (yet).

[AreaOfEffect]

The stormimmune command is relatively new. Regardless, it is a real command and testing shows that it does allow eagle warriors, who don't start out with flight, to fly in storms after being blessed. That said, the stormpower command has been around for much longer and essentially provides the same effect.

I agree with vfb, Mictlan's eagle warriors are already a powerful force in any game.

[Edi]

The stormimmune command is relatively new. Regardless, it is a real command and testing shows that it does allow eagle warriors, who don't start out with flight, to fly in storms after being blessed. That said, the stormpower command has been around for much longer and essentially provides the same effect.

#stormpower and #stormimmune are entirely different commands. #stormpower grants a unit a specified bonus to stats when there is a storm on. It does NOT allow flying during storms. That's what #stormimmune is for.

[AreaOfEffect]

Edi, my point is that any unit with stormpower can fly in a storm. It isn't the same because it additionally grants stat bonuses, but it does also grant the stormimmune effect. Test it yourself if you don't believe me.

[Edi]

Hmm, that's interesting. So #stormpower 0 would be the same as #stormimmune. This has never been documented publicly before, by the way. I'll see about adding a mention of this in the modding manual.