Tank, model year 1972

[Ramm]

I was just playing this morning a match between E. Germany and GB circa Aug, 1990 and I noticed a strange thing. The turret of the T-72 I was using had the shape of an Easter egg of the color green, is this really how it looks from top down? If not is it going to be changed in the next patch? :sick:

Please keep in mind if the turret really looks like a ovular green Easter egg then I retract my comments. :doh:

Sincerely,
Andrew Nault

[Skirmisher]

:confused:

[Ramm]

If I only knew how to post a pictue I could show you, but if you start up the game you can see yourself.

All I'm asking: Is that the way its supposed to look? I've never seen a russian tank with a oval turret. The only tank that comes to mind really is the Tiger II.

[Skirmisher]

I look at it like this Ramm. Don and Andy have been working on this stuff intensely for well over a decade. I trust thier judgement regarding these games. I mean lets face it ,they are the OnLY people I know of actively working on and refining a current steel panthers game(s).

Now they are human and occasionaly make an error. Who doesn't?
So if you find a piece of equipment or whatnot you don't think is right, dig up some info on it and present it in the way's they have outlined.

But just making a post saying that a tank turret looks like an easter egg isn't very productive.
MY 2 cents

[gila]

Maybe your hunting easter eggs little early this year Ramm:)

[Ramm]

I look at it like this Ramm. Don and Andy have been working on this stuff intensely for well over a decade. I trust thier judgement regarding these games. I mean lets face it ,they are the OnLY people I know of actively working on and refining a current steel panthers game(s).

Now they are human and occasionaly make an error. Who doesn't?
So if you find a piece of equipment or whatnot you don't think is right, dig up some info on it and present it in the way's they have outlined.

But just making a post saying that a tank turret looks like an easter egg isn't very productive.
MY 2 cents

Are you telling me I can't point out that the game icon looks different than the picture gila kindly provided for us because you think it not helpfull? It is my duty to reveal any shortcomings to make a more enjoyable game:p In my defense I'm not a expert in field of library science so reaserch does not come easy for me.

By the way thanks gila, maybe I am looking for easter eggs a little early:D

[Skirmisher]

[QUOTE=Skirmisher;680885]

Are you telling me I can't point out that the game icon looks differnt the the picture gilla kindly provided for us? I feel it is my duty to reveal any shortcoming in order to make a more perfect game.


Your going to do whatever you want to.

I was just pointing out your methods could use some refining.

When you take 92 nations into account over a 74 year period thats a boatload of military gear.

[Imp]

Andrew they will move it but read the sticky on reporting OOB errors in TO&Es forum I think which is where possible OOB errors belong. Basically you switch on unit ID numbers (or something similar) in preffs

[Wdll]

I have no idea where the egg you are talking about is. I set up a battle between e german and gb aug 1990 and both the t-72 versions available for Egermany look nothing like an easter egg.

[gila]

It's bit wider in the front turret,
An accurate as possible icon IMHO:D

[Ramm]

If thats what it should look like then I'm fine with it. I just thought I would point out something that looked wierd to me so if it was a problem Don & Andy could fix it.
I recognize that they have worked hard on this game and that without them we would be playing a very outdated piece of software, thanks Don and Andy.

[Ramm]

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[DRG]

Andrew........ a case could be made that the turret in question is a pixel ( ONE PIXEL ) longer ( as a "slice" of turret ) than it should be or could be at this scale but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. If you think it looks like a "green Easter egg" I might suggest corrective eyewear

But I will say that anyone who feels it's their "duty" to complain about things that they really have no actual idea what it's supposed to look like


"Is that the way its supposed to look?"


is really just being a PITA whether that's you intent or not is irrelevant.

Don

[Ramm]

Andrew........ a case could be made that the turret in question is a pixel ( ONE PIXEL ) longer ( as a "slice" of turret ) than it should be or could be at this scale but I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. If you think it looks like a "green Easter egg" I might suggest corrective eyewear

But I will say that anyone who feels it's their "duty" to complain about things that they really have no actual idea what it's supposed to look like


"Is that the way its supposed to look?"


is really just being a PITA whether that's you intent or not is irrelevant.

Don

The reason I asked if thats what it looked like was because the T-72 I saw at Aberdeen may have been different then the one modeled. So I do know what I am talking about or at least as much as an honest amateur who tells it like he sees it. I'm sorry you think I'm being a pain but I will continue to report anything that looks odd to me
and if you want you can ignore me. Just don't get offended I'm not personally attacking you just trying help out.

[Ramm]

I'm sorry for being disrespectful Don.

Sincerely,

Andrew Nault

[Imp]

Skirmisher unless I am mistaken thats Mr Woodward there, do you just use your forces to mop up after he has scarred the .... out of them?

[Skirmisher]

Skirmisher unless I am mistaken thats Mr Woodward there, do you just use your forces to mop up after he has scarred the .... out of them?

Yup:D

[Skirmisher]

Skirmisher unless I am mistaken thats Mr Woodward there, do you just use your forces to mop up after he has scarred the .... out of them?

What ya think submachine shot or mugshot better?

[Imp]

Skirmisher unless I am mistaken thats Mr Woodward there, do you just use your forces to mop up after he has scarred the .... out of them?

What ya think submachine shot or mugshot better?

Stick with the mugshot its more intimidating

[PanzerBob]

While I can see, now you've mentioned it, an Easter Eggyness to it, it does look right. As for T72's they have many variants and there are within the game a few icons which pretty much cover them off for the scale here. I'm positive the T72 you saw looked different than the one here especially from a ground prespective.:cool:

Bottom-line don't worry even after playing this game for 15 plus years I'm still seeing things that I'm assured are not there!!:doh::doh:

Bob out:D

[Marek_Tucan]

Here be the 4-view of T-72 early model, you'll notice it's pretty close in fact. Atleast IMO.

http://armyreco.ifrance.com/russe/vehicules_lourds/t_72/t_72_description.htm

Btw the APG T-72 seems to be a M1, a tad different turret shape to the original T-72...

[Ramm]

Here be the 4-view of T-72 early model, you'll notice it's pretty close in fact. Atleast IMO.

http://armyreco.ifrance.com/russe/vehicules_lourds/t_72/t_72_description.htm

Btw the APG T-72 seems to be a M1, a tad different turret shape to the original T-72...

All the tank pictures I could ever need:D

[Ramm]

Just curious, is the T-72 going to be altered for the fall patch? It would look really sharp:) and it would only take "one pixel":D

[Marcello]

Just curious, is the T-72 going to be altered for the fall patch? It would look really sharp:) and it would only take "one pixel":D

I don't see much of a problem with current T-72 icons turret shape. It does have an egg shape, as you can see in these blueprints.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/4883/172m19np.jpg

Source: tanknet scan from a long time ago.

[Wdll]

Am I going crazy or am I the only one that doesn't see a resemblance between the turret of the T-72 and an egg?

[Marek_Tucan]

Well, it's there... After all almost every vehicle recognition gude I saw mentions "egg-shaped turret" as a recognition points for IS-3, T-54-55, T-62 and early T-72 :)

[Ramm]

Andrew........ a case could be made that the turret in question is a pixel ( ONE PIXEL ) longer ( as a "slice" of turret ) than it should be or could be at this scale

Don

I rest my case

[DRG]

Andrew, you are really starting to annoy me. ONE PIXEL too long is barely noticable at the scale we are working with... ( i.e you'll never notice the difference even if I did change it)... and you have been provided with info from a number of people saying there is nothing fundamentaly wrong with what is represented now and I am NOT tearing SHP files apart altering dozens of turrets for anyone including you over that. And I said "a case could be made ..." .....a case could be made that it's just fine the way it is as well. "A case could be made ......" that you need to start spending more time on your courses at Thomas Nelson Community College.

Don

[Marcello]

Well, it's there... After all almost every vehicle recognition gude I saw mentions "egg-shaped turret" as a recognition points for IS-3, T-54-55, T-62 and early T-72 :)

Well, T-62 turret is pretty much a circle for all practical purposes.

[Gooseman2448]

Andrew, you are really starting to annoy me. ONE PIXEL too long is barely noticable at the scale we are working with... ( i.e you'll never notice the difference even if I did change it)... and you have been provided with info from a number of people saying there is nothing fundamentaly wrong with what is represented now and I am NOT tearing SHP files apart altering dozens of turrets for anyone including you over that. And I said "a case could be made ..." .....a case could be made that it's just fine the way it is as well. "A case could be made ......" that you need to start spending more time on your courses at Thomas Nelson Community College.

Don

Or learn to paint them and make a SHP file YOURSELF:confused: