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Scarlioni
March 19th, 2009, 06:25 PM
Could someone educate me on what a Peg Castle and a Tel City are?

I just can't picture what these fortress types are.

ano
March 19th, 2009, 06:37 PM
Tel City is a home fortress of C'tis, Hinnom, Ashdod and Gath.
Peg Castle can be found with a site that gives Wizards.

Omnirizon
March 19th, 2009, 06:41 PM
tel city is probably a 'hill city' or 'city on a hill'. that would be a roughly Hebrew translation.

Amorphous
March 20th, 2009, 02:55 AM
"Peg" can in some instances refer to a wooden stake. Therefore, I think a peg castle is somewhat similar to a wooden palisade, but extended to be an actual castle.

Regarding "Tel" I think Omnirizon is right on the money, but I also see another interesting connotation. "Tel" (or "Tell" - I have seen both spellings used) is also a term for an archaeological site where civilizations are found built on top of each other. This echoes the mythology of the factions that have it quite beautifully.


The above, however, is only what I see in the words of the terms themselves. I have not seen the terms themselves used outside of Dominions.

llamabeast
March 20th, 2009, 05:52 AM
The Peg Castle is ridiculously hard to siege, isn't it? So I don't think it's made of wood.

Personally I imagine it standing on a peg-shaped bit of rock in the mountains, so that it's very hard to even run up to, let alone damage.

Amorphous
March 20th, 2009, 06:50 AM
The Peg Castle is ridiculously hard to siege, isn't it? So I don't think it's made of wood.

Personally I imagine it standing on a peg-shaped bit of rock in the mountains, so that it's very hard to even run up to, let alone damage.

You are most probably right.

Castles and fortifications in mountains do tend to have high defence in Dominions, but the hillfort definitely has lower than the peg castle so you have a definite point. Your explanation also uses a more common meaning of peg. Not to mention that the image it presents is much more appealing.

In short, I am thoroughly convinced.

Agema
March 20th, 2009, 07:02 AM
I assumed it referred to "peg" in the sense of fastening or holding: a castle that holds together or underpins the defence of something, hence it needing to be enormously hard to take. I've never heard the term before, though. Although I think Llamabeast's suggestion sounds better.

It might not be an English word though...

llamabeast
March 20th, 2009, 07:06 AM
I suspect my explanation is actually wrong, but I find it pleasing enough to the imagination. :)

Sombre
March 20th, 2009, 07:24 AM
I imagined it to be a castle 'pegged' onto a sheer cliff face.

Executor
March 20th, 2009, 08:31 AM
From what I was able to find, they are basically mountain fortifications which are supposed to be very hard to get to. There are actually a lot of those where I live.

Edi
March 20th, 2009, 09:57 AM
From what I was able to find, they are basically mountain fortifications which are supposed to be very hard to get to. There are actually a lot of those where I live.

So when we come to conquer your home province, we should prepare for a long and hard siege? ;) :D

Executor
March 20th, 2009, 10:19 AM
Very very very long siege.

Poopsi
March 20th, 2009, 10:36 AM
Hmm. I googled "peg castle" and this was the result

Really goddamn huge image changed to link (http://images.longandfoster.com/Viewers/AgentPhoto.aspx?imgType=1&AgentNumber=32955)

Don't inline massive images like that. They are too disruptive. ~Edi

Endoperez
March 20th, 2009, 11:35 AM
Why do we need to see that picture in 2300x3500 resolution, again?

Not that I'm complaining, as I just happened to need a reference image and this works fine, but I don't usually come here to look for high-resolution images.

Amhazair
March 20th, 2009, 01:57 PM
Expanding on and combining Omni's and Amorphous explanations, a Tell city is indeed the term used for cities where new constructions were built and rebuilt on top of the remains of the older cities, thus effectively forming a hill in a formerly flat landscape.

A famous example is the Mythological Troy which, if I recall correctly, was found to be on the 7th or 9th layer of out of a total of some 20-odd cities built on top of one another. Can't remeber whether it was 7th/9th from the top or the bottom though. ;)

This is a very common occurence throughout ancient times in the Middle east, starting from the very first cities built (All right, from the very second ones, which were built on top of those very first ones.) untill... and this is where my historical knowledge fails me, but if I were to hazard a guess I'd say till roughly 300BC. (I can imagine the various Persian civilisations still doing it, but Alexander had a penchant of building brand new cities, possbily next to older ones, but not on top of them I believe.)

And this concludes today's lecture... :)

thejeff
March 20th, 2009, 02:11 PM
I'll second the "Don't post huge pictures for no particular reason." It makes the posts stretch out and become unreadable.

Shrink the picture or link to it if you really feel the need.

Omnirizon
March 20th, 2009, 02:28 PM
he wanted us to see her face in every horrifying detail...

is it just me, or are her eyes both blue and brown?

Executor
March 20th, 2009, 02:28 PM
Normans also built forts over each other when they invaded England in 11 century, mostly over Roman forts.

Poopsi
March 20th, 2009, 02:37 PM
sorry, I cant find the edit button...

archaeolept
March 20th, 2009, 03:15 PM
that's because you can only edit posts w/in 30 minutes. which doesn't explain why you posted such an abomination in the first place. Please pm a mod to get it fixed.

Edi
March 20th, 2009, 03:24 PM
It's been fixed. I am NOT amused...

Omnirizon
March 20th, 2009, 03:25 PM
I post a picture with the word '****' in it and in 5 minutes a mod rips it down and sends me a warning.

he posts that thing and no one bats an eye.

conclusion: she doesn't have one of the seven bad words scrawled upon her, so therefore she is irrelevant. you know, those seven words you can't say in public: **** Piss **** **** Cocksucker Mother****er Tits

NOTE: if any of those words are not caught by a filter, this post will be removed, I will receive a warning, and that picture will not be touched.

EDIT: I was wrong: Edi took down the pic as I was typing. It remains to be seen what happens to this post.

archaeolept
March 20th, 2009, 03:44 PM
cocksucker is a perfectly cromulent word

Omnirizon
March 20th, 2009, 03:56 PM
oh archaeolept: how you do embiggen our knowledge, even amongst these words which do cometh from an ensmallened mind.

Executor
March 20th, 2009, 04:22 PM
WTF?
How bout swearing in foreign language?

Scarlioni
March 20th, 2009, 04:28 PM
Thanks to Poopsi the graphical representation of why Peg Castles are so hard to siege.

Appreciate the explanations of a Tel City, was unfamiliar of the term.

So a Peg Castle is either A) a castle on top of a mesa, the mesa being the Peg or B) a wooden construction pegged to a cliff?

JimMorrison
March 20th, 2009, 05:21 PM
Uhh Omni, you haven't looked very closely at very many eyes, have you?


And I could have sworn that this forum forced an auto resize if you directly posted an image - Mindi or Annette demonstrated it..... but I never saw anyone say that restriction was being lifted. Sometimes things really were for our own good. Not often, but sometimes. ;)

Lingchih
March 20th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Peg Castles are 700 walls, the second hardest castle to siege. Peg Cities are 500 walls. The hardest cities to siege.

cleveland
March 21st, 2009, 11:21 PM
is it just me, or are her eyes both blue and brown?

7950

Yes.

Dedas
March 22nd, 2009, 02:53 PM
She's a witch! Burn her! Burn her!

Gregstrom
March 22nd, 2009, 06:49 PM
Hang on - we'll need a duck and a large set of scales first :P

vfb
March 22nd, 2009, 07:01 PM
I'm more worried about the debris that appears to be lodged in the embrasures of the Peg Castle. Those crenelations need floss badly!

Executor
March 22nd, 2009, 07:06 PM
I doubt anyone will be storming that castle...

Omnirizon
March 22nd, 2009, 10:31 PM
the most hilarious thing is that before this thread existed, the top 10 hits for Peg Castle were to that person (is she a real estate agent?), Peg Castle.

Now, this thread in this forum is the second hit. The funny thing is that it is a thread talking about that person. Hopefully Peg doesn't google her own name and see the things we've been saying about her :p

Lingchih
March 22nd, 2009, 11:43 PM
Lol. Poor Peg.

Scarlioni
March 24th, 2009, 02:11 AM
The question remains unanswered! What the heckubus is a Peg?

There's a Peg City too? My rule book only shows a Peg castle.

Poopsi
March 24th, 2009, 02:55 AM
The OP was about Peg Castle and the Tel City (which is Hinnom's fortress)

(hmm, google image tel city?)