WinSPMBT v4.5 Tourney Players

[Skirmisher]

I've noticed a complete lack of activity as far as Tournaments go. So I'm putting forth this body of ideas.

I propose a small test tournament. 6 people will be required as combatants. Each player will be assigned another player to fight. All players will need to own the CD.

All equipment for this Test will come from the RED OOB, June 2009. At a later date I will post an exact list of the equipment availible to ALL players.

All battles will be fought on the same maps. As this is a test it will be limited to 3 running battles. I'll create the senario's and install the equipment specified by each player.
There will be 2 battles (or rounds) for each player to fight.

Each player will be assigned points before any fighting happens.
From this they must purchase a starting force. The battles will ALL be meeting engagements. The Terrain will ALL be in the same geographic location.
The 2nd battle will see less points to spend and ANY surviving forces from the first battle move to this battle.

These battles are not intended to be large in nature. I'm thinking maybe 70 tall X 80 wide. This is not etched in stone however. All maps will be a standard size.

The winner would be the player able to rack up the most points during the course of the battles.
A winner of a battle is the person who outscores the other.
The loser's score is subtracted from the winners total. The points left are the points scored for that battle.

I will be able to set passwords for each player. I'm not sure how deployment is going to work being that two people will be fighting.
If I have to deploy the actual player forces, each player contact me by PM to finalize that. Also each player will contact me by PM for thier purchase so nobody else knows that info.

I should have a complete list of availible forces up by the end of the week.

If anybody has interest in tournaments sign up here. Please be advised, if you want to be in this you must commit to at least one turn EVERY 48 hours.

Any feedback or ideas are welcome.
The idea is to create interest in tournaments which so far seems completely unused.

[Ramm]

Sure I'll do it, this will be my first PEBM :cold: I can guarantee 1 turn every 24 hours;)

Andrew

[EJ]

I'd be interested in being a part of this tourney. Sign me up!

[Imp]

Thats a good idea skirmisher never been done I think will have to read guide assume we all play the same game.

[Ramm]

I'd be interested in being a part of this tourney. Sign me up!

Thats a good idea skirmisher never been done I think will have to read guide assume we all play the same game.

I'm glad you guys are interested:D We only need 2 more!

Cheers,

Andrew

[Imp]

Having had a quick look at GG think the way you are supposed to do it is set up a scenerio & all players play the same game as in same map & equipment you provide.
Sent you a PM as say happy to help. That way you can make 3 scenerios & all players play them. Winner could be done by assigning points for 1st 2nd 3rd etc on each side.

[Skirmisher]

Welcome Players Ramm,EJ,&Imp

Thanks for stopping in and signing up.

We have half the players we need at this point.
Hopfully we can dig up 3 more.

[Skirmisher]

Having had a quick look at GG think the way you are supposed to do it is set up a scenerio & all players play the same game as in same map & equipment you provide.



It looks like I'm going to have to set up your forces,but I still want to go with everybody hand picking thier forces from a legal forces list. This will make it a little more interesting.

Keep in mind this is just an experiment to see how the whole tournament thing funtions.

[Skirmisher]

That way you can make 3 scenerios & all players play them. Winner could be done by assigning points for 1st 2nd 3rd etc on each side.


Everybody will play on the same map for each round.

[Skirmisher]

Question for everybody signed up.

Should We go ahead with players purchasing thier force and then telling me how to set up or
Should I just make a stock scenario for each round that everybody plays?

[Ramm]

Question for everybody signed up.

Should We go ahead with players purchasing thier force and then telling me how to set up or
Should I just make a stock scenario for each round that everybody plays?

Lets wait for more people and you pick the stuff cause I have no idea what I'm doing:confused::D

Here is a picture of me thinking about your question.

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/b/bf/Lolwutpear.jpg


Cheers,
Andrew

[Skirmisher]

OK lets hit the reset button.

************************************************** *************
Revised Tournament Test Rules.
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I will create a scenario designed for TWO players using the RED oob June 2009.
As Imp mentioned in his PM,this will simplify things alot.
And we wouldn't want Ramm's condition to get worse.

Each player will get the SAME exact force. I will post this force in advance.
The scoring will remain the same. To win you must outscore your opponent. The differental in points will be the actual points scored in any given battle.

[Ramm]

And we wouldn't want Ramm's condition to get worse.


:D

Cheers,
Andrew

[Double_Deuce]

Each player will get the SAME exact force. I will post this force in advance.
The scoring will remain the same. To win you must outscore your opponent. The differental in points will be the actual points scored in any given battle.
So we all play the same scenario you create each round correct? If we have some wiggle room on the turn rate of 48 hours I would jump in. The 48 hours should be no problem if the scenarios are not too large.

[Skirmisher]

Each player will get the SAME exact force. I will post this force in advance.
The scoring will remain the same. To win you must outscore your opponent. The differental in points will be the actual points scored in any given battle.
So we all play the same scenario you create each round correct? If we have some wiggle room on the turn rate of 48 hours I would jump in. The 48 hours should be no problem if the scenarios are not too large.


Thats no problem. I was just trying to stress the need for continuity in the tournament.
Welcome aboard!

[Skirmisher]

Currently Signed up are-

Ramm
EJ
Imp
Double Deuce


Still room for 2 more players.

[Skirmisher]

So we all play the same scenario you create each round correct?

Yes but the scenario's are designed for two players each.

So It's a PVP (Player vs Player) as opposed to PVA (Player vs AI)

[Wdll]

So both players have the RED army with exact oob decided by you on a map choosen by you. Correct?

[Skirmisher]

So both players have the RED army with exact oob decided by you on a map choosen by you. Correct?

Correct.

[Wdll]

I am in. Though if this takes longer than a couple of months I might be force to delay my turns during the early summer.

[Lt. Ketch]

While I will not be participating in this endevor, I am very, very interested to see how it turns out - both the experiement and the individual battles. If you guys would keep a psudo journal of how it's going and possibly a AAR or two on the battles, I would love to read them.

My main interest is how these "chess" matches are going to turn out. The idea of two identical forces duking it out with the variable being independent stratagy intregues me. Keep us updated.

[Skirmisher]

New Updated Roster


Ramm
EJ
Imp
Double Deuce
Wdll



Still room for one more player.

Player must own the WinSPMBT CD to get tourament mode and be in this tournament.


The battlemap, a 70 high X 80 wide random generated map (RED vs RED)
of the Balkans has been selected.

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Due to Wdll's time contraints this will be strickly a Two round tournament.

The second round map will be a different map,but the same size and location.
Players will get the same force second round as the first.

I sould have the force composition up by Friday night. The scenario should be done this weekend.

Any player starting out first round on left side of map will get right side of map 2nd round,so that all players will get to play first move.

At this point we need 3 people to start the battles.
Let me know who wants to do that.
Everybody will have thier own passwod completely different than anybody elses.

In order to assign who's playing who we'll do it like this.

Players are seeded in order of appearace for signing up.

You will play the same opponent through both rounds for this test.


Opponents-

Ramm vs (6th Seed)
EJ vs Wdll
Imp vs Double Deuce


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It's important to remember that these game will be full security. Make sure you play the entire game on the same computer.

If there is some kind of security breech, the only way I can see to score it fairly is to have both players get zero points for the round. If anybody has a better idea about that let me know.

[Wdll]

My time contraint will only affect my turns for a few days, not more than a week, some time in June.

[Ramm]

Sniper23 wants to know if he can participate without the CD? I told him yes.

Andrew

[Skirmisher]

I am in. Though if this takes longer than a couple of months I might be force to delay my turns during the early summer.

Welcome, your on the roster.

[Skirmisher]

Sniper23 wants to know if he can participate without the CD? I told him yes.

Andrew

Should have told him no. Tournament mode is only availible to people who bought the CD. Thanks for bringing that up though I should repost it.

[Skirmisher]

My time contraint will only affect my turns for a few days, not more than a week, some time in June.

No worries, 2 battles each is enough to test.

[Ramm]

While I will not be participating in this endevor, I am very, very interested to see how it turns out - both the experiement and the individual battles. If you guys would keep a psudo journal of how it's going and possibly a AAR or two on the battles, I would love to read them.

My main interest is how these "chess" matches are going to turn out. The idea of two identical forces duking it out with the variable being independent stratagy intregues me. Keep us updated.

I plan to keep a journal as I go but I'll only post it after the map is done;)

Andrew

[Ramm]

I have a quick question, can we change unit names to fool our adversary?

Andrew

[Mobhack]

I have a quick question, can we change unit names to fool our adversary?

Andrew

This forum is really only for folks to meet up and arrange PBEM games, not for blow by blow question and answer sessions.

The PM system is best for exchanging private email details (so spammers do not pick those up).

Then you should exchange nuts and bolts details etc via private email.

Cheers
Andy

[Skirmisher]

At this point I have Ramm's and Imp's Email's.

Everybody else I'm going to need an email address.
Please send it to me by PM.

If you need to ask anything about the tournament test please PM me about it.

Thanks:cool:

[Skirmisher]

OK when I said I would provide everybody a password , I lied.
I can't do that.

Thats actually up to the players themselves. I'm only responsible to set an initial setup password for player 2's.

Would everybody please read the game guide section

PBEM Tournaments, the 4 paragraphs under where it says-

This completes the Tournament Organizers section.The game is now in the hands of player 1.

This relates to what YOU the players are responsible for.

Please read this and let me know by PM if you understand it.

Thanks:cool:

[Wdll]

I need to drop out, I am sorry.

[Skirmisher]

I need to drop out, I am sorry.

It's ok. It actually solves another problem. We now have 4 players and can proceed.

[Skirmisher]

We have 4 players now. Wdll dropped.

So the matchups look like this for the first round.


Ramm vs EJ
Imp vs Double Deuce.


Keep in mind this is scored only by RAW points.

There is no DRAW, unless the unlikely event both players with the same points.
Under a Draw the person with the high score wins.
And gains the difference in points as Tourament Points.

[Skirmisher]

Rule Amendment



Players will now play the same scenario (in reverse ) for round 2.

Player 1's become Players 2's
Player 2's become Player 1's

So each player must play both sides to be fair.

[Skirmisher]

Test Tournament Force

Availible to ALL Players



Headquarters

HQ X1 Headquarters
Gimlet SAM X1 Infantry SAM Team
Sniper X1 Vision 30
GAZ-3937 X1 Utility Vehicle

Aircraft

Yak X1 Observation Aircraft
Mig-27 X2 Strike Element

Airborne

Antonov An-2 X1 Transport Aircraft
Para Section X2 Paratroops

Artillery

ZSU-23-4M X2 SP Flakker
Ammo Truck X1 Ordinance Vehicle
251 Gvozdika X2 SP Artillery
MT-LB/120 X2 SP Mortar
MT-LB U X1 FO Vehicle

Armor

T-72M1 X6 MBT
UAZ-Konkurs X2 SP ATGM

Infantry

Valuk X3 APC
Infantry Sec X3 Infantry
MT-LB X6 APC
Infantry Sec X6 Infantry
MT-LB X2 APC
Sappers X2 Pioneers
RPG-7V Team X2 Inf AT

Recon

BRDM-2 X4 Scout Vehicle
Scout Team X4 Scouts

[Skirmisher]

I'd just like to thank everybody for being patient.

We should be able to start beginning of next week if everybody's ready.

If you have any comment on the forces or whatever don't hesitate to PM me anytime.

Thank you.

[Double_Deuce]

I'd just like to thank everybody for being patient.

We should be able to start beginning of next week if everybody's ready.
No worries. Just let us know when you are ready.

[Skirmisher]

Attention EJ

I still need your email so I can send you the setup password.
Please send it PM.


Ramm and Imp, I'll be sending you the files within 24 hrs.

Talk to opponents and decide what PBEM slot to use.


Double Deuce and EJ, you'll be getting the setup passwords.



Important
Everybody needs to set thier own password during thier first turn.


The matchups again...

Round One
Ramm vs EJ
Imp vs Double Deuce

[Skirmisher]

This tournament is now LIVE

Game files sent to Player 1's

Passwords sent to players 2's



Good luck everybody and thank you for participating in this.:cool:

[Skirmisher]

I'll need to have end game files from each game so I can score them. Screenshots of the final score pages also acceptable.

If anybody wants to email me screenshots of in game battle's that would be cool. Of course they will be kept confidential.

I could post them in a write up after it's all over.

Thanks:up:

[Ramm]

I may not be able to start before Friday, I have to write 2 term papers and I have final exams at the end of the month.

I should have enough time to figure out how this all works on Friday.

I am sorry about the wait EJ, I didn't realize how things could get so busy so fast:(

Andrew

[Skirmisher]

I may not be able to start before Friday, I have to write 2 term papers and I have final exams at the end of the month.

I should have enough time to figure out how this all works on Friday.

Andrew


No worries, it's not meant to be stressful.

All you have to do is determine(consulting EJ) what PBEM slot your going to use, then play it like a regular scenario in that slot.
Making sure you set yourself a password during your first turn.

Then send it off to EJ.

[Double_Deuce]

IT'S ON! :D

Imp and I have passed files and the 1st turn is in the can.

[Skirmisher]

Ramm, whats the status of your game with EJ?

[Ramm]

He said not to use slot 2 or 3 (and I assume 1), I will start on Friday when I can devote however many hours I need to figure out how to do a PEBM as it is fairly technical. This coming from a Geography major:D

Andrew

[Double_Deuce]

IT'S ON! :D and its not going well. At least not from the view I have. :sick:

[Imp]

and its not going well. At least not from the view I have. :sick:<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
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Getting a jump start by going first helped a lot but presently blundering about in the woods playing hide & seek, not the safest of pastimes to be sure.

[Ramm]

Can you resend the game files, I deleted them accidentally.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Buddy_christ.jpg

[spirek]

can i join the tourney or it's too late

[Ramm]

can i join the tourney or it's too late

You can play EJ, if he agrees, otherwise I'm slated to verse against him.

I promised him a game and I don't break my promises, but if can switch you in that would be great.

Andrew

[Imp]

Ohhh planes overhead will have to wait to see if my T-72 still works certainly scared em

[Skirmisher]

can i join the tourney or it's too late

You can play EJ, if he agrees, otherwise I'm slated to verse against him.

I promised him a game and I don't break my promises, but if can switch you in that would be great.

Andrew

Ramm do you even want to play this? It doesn't seem like you do.

[Ramm]

can i join the tourney or it's too late

You can play EJ, if he agrees, otherwise I'm slated to verse against him.

I promised him a game and I don't break my promises, but if can switch you in that would be great.

Andrew

Ramm do you even want to play this? It doesn't seem like you do.

It does not matter what I want to do, I said I would and I am. When someone says they are going to do something they should be man enough to do it. EJ is looking forward to a game against me and I will give him that game and I will give him the hardest challenge I know how. Hope this clears things up:cool:

Andrew

[Skirmisher]

You can play EJ, if he agrees,

but if can switch you in that would be great.



What exactly does all this mean then?

[Ramm]

You can play EJ, if he agrees,

but if can switch you in that would be great.



What exactly does all this mean then?

Just what it says, I'm giving him my seat if he wants it. If EJ can play another opponent then I've followed my side of the arrangement.

Andrew

[Skirmisher]

You can play EJ, if he agrees,

but if can switch you in that would be great.



What exactly does all this mean then?

Just what it says, I'm giving him my seat if he wants it.

Andrew

OK but doesn't that imply that you don't want it?

[Skirmisher]

I guess what I should really be asking is... Did you even start yet?

[Ramm]

No\

[Ramm]

But I can if I have the files.

[Skirmisher]

No\


This sorta speaks volumes regarding your interest level. Doesn't it?:doh:

[Skirmisher]

But I can if I have the files.

I mailed you the encrypted files 5 days ago.

[Skirmisher]

I'm saying it's ok if you cant handle it,don't know what to do, whatever.
But you shouldn't act otherwise.

[Mobhack]

But I can if I have the files.

Please take the blow by blow stuff into private email, or PMs.

This forum is for prospective opponents to meet for a game and not for administrative messages about the games themselves!.

Andy

[Skirmisher]

When I started this post it wasn't my intention to just get a game together
and then let the post die. So I think I definetly posted in the wrong place. It seemed like the right place at the time, but seeing that this forum has limited strick usage, it might be a good idea to move it.

Moderater(s) please move post to proper location. Thank you.

[Skirmisher]

can i join the tourney or it's too late

You can join if you still want too. EJ needs an opponent.
Ramm dropped the ball.

So PM me if your still interested.

[Skirmisher]

OK this test isn't done yet as far as ongoing battles, but I want to post a few thoughts.

This format is not suitable for this type of tournament IMO.

The game guide suggests using the tournament option for people
to play blind games created by a third party.

This is the best way to use it I think.

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So I'm going to begin working on a scenario for encryption.

Now here's the interesting twist.

Players will be responsible to find someone to fight with.
I will only be responsible to create/send tournament files to any player 1's
and passwords to player 2's

Players will score it or just play it. Whatever they see fit.

If they want to replay it in reverse they can do that.

I won't do any scoring , simply provide the blind scenario.

__________________________________________________ _____________________


Having the CD's for WinSPMBT/ WinSPWW2 is imperitive for joining and playing
any scenario's created for encrypted play. Yes WW2 is possible.

I think this simple fact (CD ownership) needs to remembered the most.


Any thoughts welcome. PM would be the way to go.

[Skirmisher]

Revised playlist.


Imp vs Double Deuce
spirek vs EJ


If you have any questions PM me.

[Skirmisher]

For everybody current playing games,

I'm going to need end of game saves so I can score the round.

No real hurry on that though.

[EJ]

Skirmisher,
This tournament thing seems to be lacking gamers dedicated to playing it. Ramm dropped the ball and went mia. I noticed Ramm has banned user under his name. How did that happen? He must have REALLY pissed off the Shrapnel moderators. I sent the turn back to Spirek and NOW he's mia also. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN PLAYING THE TOURNAMENT PM ME ASAP! I'm still interested and need someone to play.

[Skirmisher]

This tournament is a test. The format works as long as two people want to play.

In future I'm only going to provide the scenario. It will be the players responsibility to find a quality opponent.

[spirek]

I'm not MIA. I send you the turn 5 days ago and i never receive anything from you.

I send a mail too...

[spirek]

Look like we have a big communication problem. You send me third time the same turn... I play it each time and i send it back. First time it was ok. Second time i lost an APC and now i've destroy one of your tank... There is no sense to play all the time the same turn.

You dont receive my mails? You send me the wrong turn each time? I dont know where is the problem

[Wdll]

So, I am curious, how is the tournament going?

[Skirmisher]

So, I am curious, how is the tournament going?

It never really turned into a tournament. Imp and Double Deuce
are the only players that actually started a game to my knowledge, and at this point I'm not even sure it's still going.

So all in all the format works, but as far as a tournament I'm afraid it's an abismal failure. :eek:

Players are supposed to make it happen,and if they don't for whatever reason,well it just doesn't happen.

[Wdll]

Too bad.

[Double_Deuce]

It never really turned into a tournament. Imp and Double Deuce are the only players that actually started a game to my knowledge, and at this point I'm not even sure it's still going.
We are still playing, just a slight slowdown due to a file mixup on my part. :doh: Actually, Imp's playing, I'm just cannon fodder at this point.

[Imp]

I have to give DD his dues here, despite dire circumstances he is still being aggressive with whats left. I do feel something expensive is going to fireball before he is done

[Skirmisher]

Thanks for playing through it. I'm just trying to figure out why people sign up, then drop the ball and disappear. Or even worse, they don't even pick up the ball to begin with.

[Skirmisher]

Since there really isn't a tournament at this point, the scenario is still availible to anybody that wants to try it out.

All you have to do is
1) Find somebody with the CD and reliable to play.
2) PM/Email me for the scenario.
3) Have opponent PM/email me for the password.

You and your opponent determine what PBEM slot to use and off you go.

[spirek]

Double Deuce can't continue game. Is there anybody who want to challenge me in this tourney? Idea is great and i want to continue ^^

The only problem is that i know the map now. And i know the emplacement of some troops...

[Skirmisher]

Double Deuce can't continue game. Is there anybody who want to challenge me in this tourney? Idea is great and i want to continue ^^

The only problem is that i know the map now. And i know the emplacement of some troops...


You were supposed to play EJ not Double Deuce.

You can play again,you'll just have to play the left side like before,because you allready have seen it.

It's up to you to find your own opponent though.

[Double_Deuce]

Double Deuce can't continue game.
I'm currently playing Imp.

[spirek]

oups, my mistake... i was sure i played against Double Deuce...

I'm talking about erome5578@yahoo.com He send me a mail saying he can't continue campaign.

[Skirmisher]

I'm talking about erome5578@yahoo.com He send me a mail saying he can't continue campaign.

I know, if you look back 14 posts in this thread to EJ's last post. What he told you is a real head scratcher. But like I've been saying if you can get a real ooponent to play you you can try again.

[Wdll]

oups, my mistake... i was sure i played against Double Deuce...

I'm talking about erome5578@yahoo.com He send me a mail saying he can't continue campaign.

That guy is EJ.

[Skirmisher]

oups, my mistake... i was sure i played against Double Deuce...

I'm talking about erome5578@yahoo.com He send me a mail saying he can't continue campaign.

That guy is EJ.

I know and spirek is also aware of that.

[Wdll]

Don't hit me.

[c_of_red]

Not sure if I'm a real opponent but I'm willing to bang away until you find one. Slot 05 or 06, I forget which right now is taken but my other 249 slots are empty and begging to be filled. So to quote Doc Holiday; "I'm your daisy". E-Mail me at
joebroz@lycos.com
and let me know what I need to do.

[Skirmisher]

Not sure if I'm a real opponent but I'm willing to bang away until you find one. Slot 05 or 06, I forget which right now is taken but my other 249 slots are empty and begging to be filled. So to quote Doc Holiday; "I'm your daisy". E-Mail me at
joebroz@lycos.com
and let me know what I need to do.


Just find an opponenent that will actually "stay the course" to coin a phrase.

If and when you do just send me a PM and I'll get the files out to you and your opponent. The tournement is in fact dead but you can still try out the scenario.

[Wdll]

c of red, your 05 slot is full.

[Skirmisher]

Imp,Double Deuce,

Did you guys ever manage to finish that game?

Just wondering if you threw in the towel or what.

[Imp]

I assumed work load on the campaign or life got to DD as turns became intermitent.
Did not bother him as it was a done deal & the other players failed to get off the ground.
Shame really nice map & fun having someone buy you forces for a change.
I thought the idea had the possibilty for building a little community within the community with diffrent people taking over the role of tourney master, I was willing.
Thanks for taking the time to try & get it off the ground
John

[Skirmisher]

The tournament function doesn't seem to be doing anything but collecting dust.

Looking at the attrition rate in this one,was it really that hard to grasp?


You and DD were able to get your game up and running rather quickly, why was it so hard for everybody else?

[Imp]

No idea identical to a normal game apart from inputing an extra password once at the start

[c_of_red]

Build it and they will come, but ONLY if they know you built it.
Did you 'market' the idea that you were going to have a tourney?
I remember at the blitz, which has hundreds of active SP players, there is nearly always a tourney going, with a waiting list of people to get in the next one, or fill in for those that are casualties. Is 'hours 'de life' a valid corruption (malapropism) of hors 'de combat?
There used to be a regular tourney master who's responsibility was to help people put on tourneys. Check with the blitz. They are good folks and pretty willing to help out.

http://www.theblitz.org/

I recognize names here that post there so if you need a game to get out of bootcamp, you should be able to find one you have already played. If not getting a game at the blitz is NEVER a problem. Just watch out for the Sharks.
I believe you will be allowed to play your bootcamp game while running a tourney. They make a pretty reasonable effort to cut down on the vanishing players. Between here and there, you should be able to get enough players together to have a tourney, PLUS a few spare players. Use what you have already done to get a head start and you will be fine.

[Double_Deuce]

You and DD were able to get your game up and running rather quickly, why was it so hard for everybody else?
Maybe due to Vista? Not sure what OS the others were running though. I can't remember but were we running it in extra secure mode? If so, any oddities will kill it rather quickly. Were the other guys fairly new to the game? If so, you have to follow the PBeM sequence to the letter or you can easily crash the game. Then again, I think there were some "personality" issues with a couple of the interested participants. ;)

Honestly, IMP had me by the throat by turn 5 and it only went downhill form there. Not sure I have the end game file if you need it.

[Skirmisher]

Build it and they will come, but ONLY if they know you built it.
Did you 'market' the idea that you were going to have a tourney?


Well the whole idea here was just to test how tournament funtion worked. My intention was to just get a handful of people (6) to run through the battles until somebody won the tournament.

If you equated the players to runners in a 100 yd dash. Only Double Deuce and Imp actually got off the starting blocks.

Anyhow in conclusion being a WinSPMBT tournament runner isn't worth it. And I'm much happier to not have to deal with fickle tourney goers. :happy:

[Skirmisher]

Not sure I have the end game file if you need it.

No need, we'll just call Imp the winner by default.

[Double_Deuce]

Anyhow in conclusion being a WinSPMBT tournament runner isn't worth it. And I'm much happier to not have to deal with fickle tourney goers. :happy:
I have found most players prefer to just play PBeM among themselves or against the AI. Most tournaments, etc involve long term committments and many end up having RL issues interfere, myself included.

I really wish there was a way to "export" an OOB after a battle so they could be imported into another subsequent battle but that would probably open up another avenue of players being able to exploit PBeM games.