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PsiSoldier
May 6th, 2009, 06:17 PM
Ok I believe in a game I am in that an opponent managed to cast Horror seed on my Wraith Lord that was sent out of his dome protected home to counter an enemy incursion (which amusingly enough is a tactic I used myself a few turns ago in a different game) Now a few turns later I notice that I have several horror marked commanders in my dome protected province. Ive got a Dome of Solid Air up so I'm pretty sure that nothing made it through into that province since the dome is still up which points the finger pretty well at my Wraith Lord as the most likely host of the Horror Seed.

Being that the Wraith Lord is Immortal.. If I send him into another province under friendly dominion with the purpose of getting killed when he died in that province would the Horror Seed be released? or would it just continue and start marking all the commanders in my Capital when the Wraith Lord reappears there?

Also... The parasitic Horrors that are marked from the Original Horror Seeded commander dont continue to mark others do they? if so I'm kind of screwed as I have Horror Marked Telastic Animations that I cannot move out and Quarantine if that is the case, and I have a lot of PD in the province in question so I cant just set them to patrol and pay someone to cast call of winds to kill the marked Telastic Animation's...:doh:

Trumanator
May 6th, 2009, 07:01 PM
Just out of curiosity, how effective IS Horror Seed? Is it merely an annoyance, or can it actually be a real pain.

PsiSoldier
May 6th, 2009, 07:09 PM
Ive only been in one game where I suspected Horror seed had been cast on me where the game continued long enough for me to notice the effects.. Eventually I began having several commanders per turn who were attacked by Horrors. At that point it was pretty much a pain since many of them were unable to cast effective spells to kill horrors like Frozen heart, incinerate etc..

Granted Horror seed may not have been the real cause in that game because I was using Lightless lanterns for research, but if memory serves I did have commanders being attacked by horrors that had never used the lanterns..

chrispedersen
May 6th, 2009, 08:41 PM
I love horror seed - but I have no idea how effective it is.

quantum_mechani
May 6th, 2009, 09:01 PM
Horror seed has absolutely no effect, other than releasing a horror when the original targeted unit dies in battle, in which case it creates a horror ala the summon horror spell.

Tolkien
May 6th, 2009, 10:25 PM
Really? From what I've gathered from the manual and everything, it spreads 5 horror marks a turn and 1 horror seed a turn.

I'm going to go test that out.

JimMorrison
May 6th, 2009, 10:42 PM
I think we need lch. :p

Atreidi
May 7th, 2009, 02:45 AM
I've always wanted to know how effective this spell was..... Any one got any facts?

Kuritza
May 7th, 2009, 03:13 AM
I have tested it in single player several times. Generally speaking, horror seed does nothing. You can cast it if you have too many blood slaves and astral-blood mages, just dont expect anything in return.

In my test game, I have cast Astral corruption and bombarded second capitol (also player-controlled, to see the results) with horror seeds for quite a some time. Then I skipped several turns and logged on to Player 2 to see what happened.

Nothing. :)

Atreidi
May 7th, 2009, 03:17 AM
Sooooo, horror seed is a lie?

Kuritza
May 7th, 2009, 04:01 AM
Yes. Horrors do not exist. They just wouldnt fit under one's bed.

Ironhawk
May 8th, 2009, 01:00 PM
Its a Horror SEED, guys. You have to nuture it with Horror Water and Horror Sunlight in order for it to grow. Geez, dont you all know anything about gardening??

Tolkien
May 8th, 2009, 06:31 PM
And don't forget Horror Manure.

analytic_kernel
May 8th, 2009, 08:10 PM
And don't forget Horror Manure.

I abhorror such a thought.

But, I've heard that talking to them helps them grow - one needs not be a great horrorator to be effective.

Illuminated One
May 8th, 2009, 08:45 PM
Stop it.



This thread is horrible.

Tolkien
May 8th, 2009, 09:35 PM
Horrible?

Or Horrorble?

Rookierookie
May 8th, 2009, 11:20 PM
Horror Seed is more effective if cast against a coastal province or one that is next to a river.

But Utterdark completely eliminates its effects.

quantum_mechani
May 8th, 2009, 11:33 PM
Horror Seed is more effective if cast against a coastal province or one that is next to a river.

But Utterdark completely eliminates its effects.Also double the horrors when cast on magic beings.

chrispedersen
May 9th, 2009, 12:54 AM
Horror Seed is more effective if cast against a coastal province or one that is next to a river.

But Utterdark completely eliminates its effects.

But does it launch parasitic horrors?

JimMorrison
May 9th, 2009, 01:08 AM
Horror Seed is more effective if cast against a coastal province or one that is next to a river.

But Utterdark completely eliminates its effects.

But does it launch parasitic horrors?

This forum does.

PsiSoldier
May 9th, 2009, 01:59 PM
Yes it does launch Parasitic horrors or at least the first one horror marks others dunno for sure if you get yet more of the parasitic horrors that Horror mark even more commanders, and it does seem to be somewhat effective. Last turn I quarantined all horror marked commanders able to move into their own province and sent one of the telastic animations into the Forgotten city in hopes they would die, This turn I lost a Naiad to a horror attack and found yet another commander horror marked in the original province.

Perhaps my horror marked Naiad was attacked because I moved her from her home province and according to the spell description your not supposed to do that but I imagine it would have happened regardless. After all I think the horror attack would have actually happened before she had a chance to move.

But at least the telastic animation found 1484 gold in the Forgoten city. :D

PsiSoldier
May 9th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Stop it.



This thread is horrible.


Dont you mean Horrorible :D

PsiSoldier
May 9th, 2009, 05:14 PM
Horrible?

Or Horrorble?

:doh: Guess I got beaten to that punchline. :doh:

Soyweiser
May 9th, 2009, 06:31 PM
'Orrible