EA Sha Bay II - Running

[DakaSha]

*UPDATE*

Map: Sha Bay

Age: EA

Mods: CBM 1.5 + Streamers and Standards

Graphs: Off

HoF: 10

Renaming: Allowed

Everything else: Default

Roleplay is encouraged although i personaly tend to roleplay in an unserious manner. Whether serious, funny, creative whatever it adds to the game ;)

Players:

DakaSha : NiefelHeim
Amonchakad : Yomi
Frozen Lama : Tir na Og (or whatever)
VfB : Fomoria
Jazzepi : Atlantis

[Amonchakad]

A small game sounds nice:D

I've wanted to try EA Yomi for some time, so that would be my choice, but if others want another age I'm ok with that.

Also,might I suggest that we use Llamabeast's Streamers & Standards (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=39989)?It makes the game a lot more eye candyish:)


About the map,your Sha Bay looks nice,I vote for that:)

[DakaSha]

Ok early age sounds good (and i just installed S&S ;) )

I guess we'll use my map to (like i said in its description i cant promise balance but ive played on it before and it seemed ok)

[DakaSha]

*Bum Bum Bum Bum Bum Bum... Bump* (to the tune of Super Mario Brother stage 1-1... gayest thing ive ever done in a forum... *sigh*)

[Frozen Lama]

I can't resist trying a small game.

I'll cripple myself right off the bat by playing Tir 'na nog

[DakaSha]

k cool. 1 more player and we are good to go :)
if anybody wants to try a water nation we'll go to 5... as stated im not sure how that would play out

[DakaSha]

changed the opening post. if you guys dont like any of that let me know as it wasn't stated at the beginning so i will change it if it pisses you off :)

I think the diplo would be interesting this way as:

1. i hate cluttering up my pm box :P
2. its more realistic (in my opinion)
2. it kind of alows for a bit more strategy as one must decide on either staying covert but maybe wasting time or vice versa

as said ill change it if you dont like it though

[Frozen Lama]

I love roleplaying, exoect some creative ones from me.

on the other hand, asking players to use in-game diplo is crazy. it sucks. I'd vote to either let people use PM's or make it absolutely no diplomacy at all, in game or otherwise.

[vfb]

I like the map and a small game sounds good to me! If we can play on a 24-hour schedule I'd like to join as Fomoria. I've got no objections to keeping messaging in-game, but I'm fine either way. It's such a small game that there probably won't be a whole lot of messages flying around anyway.

[DakaSha]

I love roleplaying, exoect some creative ones from me.

on the other hand, asking players to use in-game diplo is crazy. it sucks. I'd vote to either let people use PM's or make it absolutely no diplomacy at all, in game or otherwise.

Hmm i dont agree. It sucks in the way that 'age' sucks. Its realistic and a pain in the *** :) (i like it :P)

but as i said since i didnt state that in the beginning ill gladly switch back to normal diplomacy :) i can start another game after this that uses that system.

ok vfb after work ill select a nation and get the game started up. if by any chance a water nation joins by then ill add them too otherwise we'll start :)

[Jazzepi]

Ooo, oo, let me join :9

I just need an hour or so to pick my water nation.

Jazzepi

[DakaSha]

heh ok ill be home in about an hour ^^

[DakaSha]

hey guys also do not forget that this is a semi-map-test.

[Jazzepi]

I'll play atlantis.

Jazzepi

[DakaSha]

game up

[DakaSha]

im going to be niefelheim btw

[DakaSha]

guys? games up

[Amonchakad]

Will have my pretender uploaded in a couple of hours.

[DakaSha]

k cool :)

[Amonchakad]

Did I say a couple of hours? I meant 6:o (stupid family lunchs...)
Thankfully I'm not the last one:p

[DakaSha]

game started :)

(just gotta go get some coffee and eat and ill send my turn in

[vfb]

Wow ... this is the first game I've played where I've got another nation's capitol on my border! Greetings, Atlantians.

[Jazzepi]

Why hullo there.

Care to submit to our AWESOME POWER++?

Jazzepi

[DakaSha]

Wow ... this is the first game I've played where I've got another nation's capitol on my border! Greetings, Atlantians.

yeah i dont know how that is going to work out. if this game shows the water nation to be a pain ill delete the starting position

[vfb]

Fomoria would be happy to pay tribute to Atlantis, in the form of a gift of our awesome dominion scales. Your people don't really want to live under the shadow of death, misery, and misfortune, do they?

[DakaSha]

pansy's

[DakaSha]

soooo. there is a small prob with this map. 2 provinces not linked... do you guys want to start over with a fixed map?

also i could change the sea starting position.

leaving it up to you

[Frozen Lama]

I'm sure that 1 connection problem won't hurt the gameplay. The sea start is another issue, but that's up to Jazzepi i guess

[Jazzepi]

I don't really care. I'll just INVADE FORMIA on turn 1.

Jazzepi

[vfb]

Yes, we are awaiting the the arrival of your Wyrm at our castle, as soon as he transforms out of lobster form. He's a tricky one!

P.S. On a more serious note, I vote for no restart. The missing border link is not a huge deal, and Atlantis did not actually have a Wyrm ready to take my capitol on turn 1.

[DakaSha]

ok let the battle (and cliche phrases) rage on!

[vfb]

Greetings fellow inhabitants of Sha Bay. Fomoria desires to trade for pearls, and we offer Water, Air, or Death gems in exchange. Please contact Lua, Prophet of the BFM 9000 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/private.php?do=newpm&u=8915) with your offers.

[DakaSha]

games back up

[DakaSha]

Niefelheim looking to trade Water and Death gems for nature gems and/or items.

[Amonchakad]

Ehm...I was quite busy today but I thought I could manage to find a moment to play my turn before the deadline, but it looks like I've made an error in calculation, and I staled a turn :S Apologies.

[Jazzepi]

Atlantis is selling dwarven hammers. looking for gems or items in trade.

Jazzepi

[DakaSha]

Ehm...I was quite busy today but I thought I could manage to find a moment to play my turn before the deadline, but it looks like I've made an error in calculation, and I staled a turn :S Apologies.

uhm wouldnt it have made sense to finish this turn then so you dont accidentally stall again...? :P

Im not rolling back. if you ever have any doubt that you will make the turn just ask for an extension. if you do manage to play the turn then the game will auto update so no harm is done.

[vfb]

There appears to be too much information on the llamaserver game status page currently:

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ShaBay2

[DakaSha]

i thought it was of interest

[vfb]

Ha ha ha, I'm sure it was, to the concerned parties (or party, as the case may be). However, the situation seems to have resolved itself. I mean, the excess information situation, that is.

[vfb]

Fomoria announces peacekeeping operations in the strife-ridden lands of Yomi. We will not permit the poor devils to be overrun by Fomoria's ancient nemesis, the Tuatha of Tir na N'og. If necessary we will deploy our ultimate weapon, the BFM 9000, to the region.

-- Lua of Fomoria

[DakaSha]

ooc:

i just laughed out loud xD

[Amonchakad]

Hey everyone.
I know it's the second time in a week that this happens,but I might be late for the turn sending(it's been a really messy week).
If by sheer chance, Dakasha reads this message and postpones the hosting by 6 hours, I would be extremely grateful; else,I can just cross my fingers and hope that i get home in time.
I'm really sorry for this.

[DakaSha]

12 hours added.

id rather postpone then u stall ;)

just let me know and its np

[Frozen Lama]

Fomoria announces peacekeeping operations in the strife-ridden lands of Yomi. We will not permit the poor devils to be overrun by Fomoria's ancient nemesis, the Tuatha of Tir na N'og. If necessary we will deploy our ultimate weapon, the BFM 9000, to the region.

-- Lua of Fomoria

Well we never expected big ugly giants to be smart. ever seen Tir na nOg hold a province for more than 1 turn? hit and run looks pretty scary huh? now formoria gets to love it just like Yomi. The BFM 1000 can only hold 1 prov at a time. Mwahaha

[vfb]

Yes, we love it! We laugh in the face of disaster, with big Giant laughs! HA HA HA ... ha ... ha ... ha ... ... ha ... sob. I mean, "ha!"

[Trumanator]

Frozen Lama is my brother in RL.
He needs about a six hour extension. He might make it sooner than that, but just in case. thanks

[Frozen Lama]

Well I guess 8 hours in advance is too short?

I'd like to ask for a rollback. I know that normally thats frowned upon, but I requested a delay plenty in advance, and since there are so few players in this game, the usual turmoil caused by a rollback will be minimal.

Also, staling at this point is likely to be nearly a game-ender for me since I'm fighting a two front war.

I'm hoping you guys will trust me when i say that i have not looked at the current turn, so i have no idea what everyone else's moves were so if we rolled back, I could send in my 2h file quickly and then force host it.

sorry guys.

[vfb]

I agree, Fomoria is at war with Tir and I don't want to get any unfair advantage from them staling.

Normally I'm against rollbacks, but in this case I think we need to do it.

Only Tir should send in a new turn though.

[Jazzepi]

8 hours is enough time for the admin to be at work, asleep, or simply to not check messages.

I don't care if we do a rollbock for Tir's turn or not.

Jazzepi

[DakaSha]

well 8 hours certainly is not alot of time when you consider we are in different places on the planet. there is more to the world than the continental usa... i check this forum CONSTANTLY when i can so i really do not feel at fault.

i am generally against rollbacks but will do it this time.

I am going to up the turn time to 48 hours but i would really appreciate if the turns are done as fast as possible

[vfb]

Oh no, I'm confused now! Do nations other than Tir need to resubmit their original orders for last turn?

[DakaSha]

according to llamaserver no.

[vfb]

But the llamaserver says:

Atlantis Waiting for 2h file
Fomoria Waiting for 2h file
Niefelheim 2h file received
Tir na n'Og Waiting for 2h file
Yomi Waiting for 2h file

[DakaSha]

it also says:

'Note that once the game is rolled back, it will appear that the game is waiting for 2h files from all players. However, the 2h files from last time the turn was played will in fact be there, and will be used if the game hosts without them being overwritten. This can be useful; often, a game is rehosted in order for only one or two players to retake their turns, while everyone else is expected to make no changes. The game admin can therefore wait till just those players have submitted, and then force hosting. None of the other players will stale (assuming they actually submitted a 2h file last time the turn was played).'

;)

I did my turn anyways. Didnt change anything though as i didnt even look at my new turn. im just going to get super pissed about the events anyways :P

[vfb]

Oh, thanks! I did not see that.

I will put my faith in the llamaserver and hope it uses my existing turn. :)

Thanks also for increasing the timer.

[Frozen Lama]

DakaSha: I apologize, I did not mean to imply that you were at fault in any way, just that I felt 8 hours is acceptable.

normally I can make 24h, just last night I got really busy. sorry

i'll get my turn in right now
i apreciate the rollback

Edit: ok go ahead and force host it.

[Amonchakad]

So...do we have to resubmit our turn 24 or just wait for the game to be hosted?

[Trumanator]

wait for it to host

[DakaSha]

ill force autohosting now. could have done that yesterday i guess, sorry

[Jazzepi]

Sigh.

I knew I should have complained about the autohost. I received a hero appearance on the old turn host. Now he's gone.

Oh well.

Jazzepi

[vfb]

Fomoria flees before the hordes of Tir! We must seek refuge beneath the waves, where the thunderbolts of Tir cannot reach us. Atlantis, prepare for war, for Fomoria desires your watery abode.

[DakaSha]

Sigh.

I knew I should have complained about the autohost. I received a hero appearance on the old turn host. Now he's gone.

Oh well.

Jazzepi

yeah.. i recieved a bad event this turn (although its not that bad.. maybe i had a worse one in the original turn heh)

anyways that was the last rollback no matter what happens now ;)

[vfb]

I lost a 200 gold event, but that's nothing compared to losing a hero, especially with Misfortune 2. My condolences to Atlantis, sworn enemy of Fomoria! :)

[DakaSha]

heh... of course now after saying dont take advantage i have to do my turn a bit later. will be done after work though !

[Frozen Lama]

btw, that was a tasty FK.

too bad for him that formoria doesn't have an A9 bless lol.

[Jazzepi]

Posted looking for someone to take over my position. I simply don't have the time between school and my responsibilities elsewhere.

I'd like an indefinite extension until I find someone.

Jazzepi

[DakaSha]

ok ill stop the game. thanks for letting us know. if you can find somebody with as much experience as you that would be a bonus

[DakaSha]

uhm?

[Jazzepi]

I can't seem to find anyone.

I'm going to try to continue this game. I'll submit a turn tomorrow.

Jazzepi

[Frozen Lama]

Uhm..... turns? is Yomi missing, or just hasn't sent a turn in?

[Jazzepi]

I'm back. Will be able to submit regular turns now.

Jazzepi

[Amonchakad]

Ehm...apologies for not having yet my turn sent in. I was sure that I had it done and sent, but it looks like i was wrong. It will be sent in some 10-15 minutes.

[Amonchakad]

I fear I have more bad news...read this (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=43486): looks like this game is cursed...I'm sorry guys, but it wasn't within my control:(

[Frozen Lama]

Well this will be a short game for me. There's no way i can fight 3 nations at once. I'll probably stick it out till the end, but this game is toast for me.

[llamabeast]

I'm subbing for Yomi while Amonchakad is away (just taken my second turn).

You're all doomed. Tir in particular.

[llamabeast]

I'm intrigued to know who's the third nation Lama's fighting. Yomi, Fomoria and ...

Incidentally I'm glad to hear you say you're toast, as I was just thinking I was toast!

[DakaSha]

Niefelheim (thanks for taking up the position btw :) )

[Frozen Lama]

Yeah, i thought i had you llamabeast, with formoria backing off, then 200 giants showed up.... oh well

[vfb]

As Fomoria saw it, Yomi was looking doomed because of the early invasion by Tir. Fomoria did not want to see Tir gain Yomi's lands, so we rushed to Yomi's aid, only to get promptly slaughtered at great loss of gems. When Atlantis declared war on Yomi, things were looking ever more dire. Unable to fight Tir effectively, Fomoria decided that we'd assist by attacking Atlantis instead. So we fled from the Tuatha to the island of Atlantis. We are pleased out giant brethren have seen the peril posed by the nation of Tir.

It's only 3 on 1 if Atlantis stales again. Fomoria only gained one province from the sea creatures this month, for we learned a lesson of caution from the Tuatha. Has anyone heard from Jazzepi recently?

[rdonj]

Llama vs Lama... :shock:

[DakaSha]

As Fomoria saw it, Yomi was looking doomed because of the early invasion by Tir. Fomoria did not want to see Tir gain Yomi's lands, so we rushed to Yomi's aid, only to get promptly slaughtered at great loss of gems. When Atlantis declared war on Yomi, things were looking ever more dire. Unable to fight Tir effectively, Fomoria decided that we'd assist by attacking Atlantis instead. So we fled from the Tuatha to the island of Atlantis. We are pleased out giant brethren have seen the peril posed by the nation of Tir.

It's only 3 on 1 if Atlantis stales again. Fomoria only gained one province from the sea creatures this month, for we learned a lesson of caution from the Tuatha. Has anyone heard from Jazzepi recently?

crap i didnt even know that jazzepi stalled.

[Frozen Lama]

The funny thing is, Yomi declared war on me....... lol.

[DakaSha]

well i postponed hosting...

[llamabeast]

Why the postponement? Are we waiting for Jazzepi?

At this rate my subbing will come to an end before I've had a chance to crush anyone. :p

[DakaSha]

yeah waiting for jazzepi... hmpf

[Frozen Lama]

should we perhaps look for a sub for Jazzepi again?

[DakaSha]

perhaps we should *sigh* (and this after me *****ing that the large game wasnt working out smoothly lol)

:P

im at work right now though

[Frozen Lama]

well no hurry, we've waited this long, we can keep waiting. lol

[vfb]

Did anyone PM Jazzepi? I'll send him one now. He's been online today, and yesterday, so maybe he just forgot to mail it in.

[Frozen Lama]

oh.. i'd assumed we had. good idea

[DakaSha]

i asked him if he is planning on sending it in a couple days ago and he ignored my pm (or perhaps didnt read it.... erm)

[Frozen Lama]

so in that case- yes we need a sub?

[DakaSha]

thats my interpretation of the events preceding... erm i suck at trying to sound intelligent

[Jazzepi]

Back from a weekend trip. I thought I would have better internet access, but it was sporadic at best, and I couldn't download maps/mods/updates I needed to play off of my laptop.

No more stales for Atlantis.

Jazzepi

[Frozen Lama]

Sorry to say it guys, but i will be on vacation from the 16th to the 25th of this month. this game has been delayed so much already, so i don't want to make it stop again, so i will try and find a sub. Failing that, i have a friend who can probably take over as a last resort, but he isn't a forum member, so i will still be out of contact.

[Frozen Lama]

Valerius will be subbing for me while i am away. I'm sending you his Email DakaSha, feel free to change it over on the 16th. i'll remind you when it gets closer

[vfb]

That's weird. It looks like the game hosted, and I got the new turn, but the status page (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ShaBay2) is pretending it didn't host:


Game: ShaBay2
Turn number 30
Next turn due: 16:25 GMT on Saturday July 11th

Hosting set to 48 hours but please do not abuse this and finish your turns when you have the time. Thank you :)

Atlantis Waiting for 2h file
Fomoria 2h file received
Niefelheim 2h file received
Tir na n'Og 2h file received
Yomi 2h file received

Last updated at 22:25 GMT on Saturday July 11th
Current time: 22:25 GMT

[Frozen Lama]

yeah, i saw that. pretty weird

[vfb]

But it has fixed itself now ... strange. Unfortunately, Atlantis staled again.

[DakaSha]

...

ok jazzepi is now officially out of the game. ill look for a sub again

[Jazzepi]

I'm actually here. I didn't mean to stale, but I slept through after a party. These stupid 6 hour hosting warnings are not useful. I'm happy to continue to play, but if you're determined to find a replacement, be my guest. Otherwise just change the warning time from 6 hours to 9 or something.

Jazzepi

[vfb]

I'd prefer to try to keep Jazzepi, booting him without even 2 stales in a row is a bit harsh. Fomoria did not pilfer any of Atlantis's provinces during his stale (but that's just a coincidence, it's not like I'm going to submit different orders depending on whether I think Atlantis is going to stale or not).

[DakaSha]

its not about 2 stalls in a row but first off saying the hosting intervals are too short is a lame excuse. its not difficult to keep track. i get the feeling you just dont CARE and i find it very disrespectful.

but ok ill just remember for the future :rolleyes:

[Jazzepi]

God, you're actually as bad as Calahan. I didn't waste my time trying to find a sub for this game because I didn't care. I didn't try to take the reigns back up after I couldn't, because I didn't care. I did it because I wanted to continue the game.

But whatever, I don't need this emo-drama-bull**** from a game I'm just trying to play for fun. Enjoy finding a sub on your own time, I'm done with your brand of ridiculousness.

Jazzepi

[DakaSha]

ok bye :) im not the only one who complains about you

[Amonchakad]

Peace and love, guys! :angel

There's no need to get angry... it's just one game. Anyway I'm back, and I told llama, but it looks like he went away without answering...we're waiting on him or I'm taking back Yomi asap?

[DakaSha]

i can give you yomi. need to look for a sub though

[Amonchakad]

Erm nevermind, I didn't check my mail: llama actually answered me already,and i already received the new turn,so I suppose that everything's set...at least for Yomi.

[Frozen Lama]

eh so we should post for a sub then?

[DakaSha]

yeh sorry ive been really busy

[Frozen Lama]

Well i'm back. i guess valerius doesn't get to play for me after all. thanks anyway though.
sooooo... what's the status with this game? is it dead? maybe Atlantis AI?

[DakaSha]

as said ive been really busy... ive been ignoring my game with vfb (sorry man ill get back to it promised :P ) but im making sure to finish larger multi-player games (including this)

if you guys want to look for a sub please do. if you vote on ai we will do that