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Imp
June 21st, 2009, 01:40 PM
Anybody know the name of the nutter Israeli tank commander in The Yom Kippur War.
From very vague memory ended up in charge of a platoon & upon seeing his virtually lone defence of a compound later more. He surprised the Egyptians by charging at them despite the tanks being totaly outclassed. He lost 2 tanks badly burnt in one I think but took over others. The loss of his second tank was to much for his driver who ran away, cant say I blame him really.
Think he was on leave or had finnished national service when it kicked off.
Possibly near enough had to talk into letting him use the tank as regular crew was not available so formed a crew out of men there.

Wdll
June 21st, 2009, 02:40 PM
Never heard of this before, are you sure it is not a myth?

Marek_Tucan
June 21st, 2009, 02:43 PM
Damnit! Lost my post... So in short: I think you think not Egypt but Golans and the name was Lt. Zvika Greengold.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zvika_Greengold
Look for link 5 for detailed account.

Wdll
June 21st, 2009, 02:50 PM
LOL, what a badass! I like him, a lot!

Marek_Tucan
June 21st, 2009, 03:00 PM
Yep, definitely a fine story and he got a load of luck that day.

DRG
June 21st, 2009, 03:02 PM
...and why the game is set up to allow exceptional results occasionally........



Don

shilka77
June 21st, 2009, 03:09 PM
The commander you are asking for sounds like some poor soul from the strategic reserve that used modified WW2 Sherman tanks. Almost 60% of all casualties in the Yom Kippur War were tank commanders I did a search through my Yom Kippur October War book by Simon Dunstan and found one commander named Lt. Zwi Zwicka Greengold for his efforts at the TAP road where he fought for 36 hours even if he was severely wounded he got awarded with the highest of decorations the Ot Hagvura equalling the Victorian Cross.

Another brave commander was one Major Shumel Askarov 53rd battalion that were wounded severely after throw out from his tank after it got hit by tank fire then rescued by paratroopers and returned to the battlefield after a quick patch-up got wounded a second time this time by AK47 bullet to the head was saved by Israeli surgeons and rewarded with the Ot Haoz.

Side-note:

The Egyptian T-62 tank in 1973 October War lacks its 12,7 mm DShK something that maybe could be added in the next patch perhaps? There are movies on You Tube that clearly show this detail on Egyptian T-62 tanks. Maybe something for Patch 5.0.

12.7 mm DShK 1938/46 antiaircraft heavy machine gun (optional until T-62 Obr.1972)

I link the movies where you can see for yourselves.

Yom Kippur War 1973: The Egyptian Revenge - (1/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BumWLG_v1b4&feature=related

Yom Kippur War 1973: The Egyptian Revenge - (2/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rax-YKer-qE&feature=related

Yom Kippur War 1973: The Egyptian Revenge - (3/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qFhvOcndQ0&feature=related

Yom Kippur War 1973: The Egyptian Revenge - (4/4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-9uZQs5dZA&feature=related

Shilka77

Marek_Tucan
June 21st, 2009, 03:18 PM
shilka, Zvika fought with Centurions, he wasn't assigned to any unit when the war kicked off (he was currently in Co commander course) and he just made the way up to Golans on his own.

Imp
June 21st, 2009, 05:40 PM
Thank you very much Marek as soon as I saw the name remembered.
yes one serious badass, both foolhardy & incredibly lucky but hey when your backs against the wall & your family just down the road. If you read a fuller acount its amazing what he got the tanks under his wing to do. I was not joking about the driver probably the only one amongst them that had any sense of self preservation. He had just been lead tank in a force of 4 or 5 vs about 30 enemy tanks been blown up for the second time & when asked to drive at them again it was just to much

Mobryan
June 21st, 2009, 08:20 PM
Thank you very much Marek as soon as I saw the name remembered.
yes one serious badass, both foolhardy & incredibly lucky but hey when your backs against the wall & your family just down the road. If you read a fuller acount its amazing what he got the tanks under his wing to do. I was not joking about the driver probably the only one amongst them that had any sense of self preservation. He had just been lead tank in a force of 4 or 5 vs about 30 enemy tanks been blown up for the second time & when asked to drive at them again it was just to much

"He popped out the drivers hatch, one hand on the pistol he kept with him as moral support. Pritchard allowed himself to overlook it, since the driver's compartment of the Plow was often the closest to the enemy of the whole copping unit."

Matt

Imp
June 21st, 2009, 08:41 PM
Just read the post my memory must be playing tricks with when the driver went, if I can find the complete thing in computer format will post it.

Beachinnole
September 27th, 2009, 09:02 PM
I believe the orginal post is combining two IDF tank commanders. As accurately noted Lt. Greengold in the Golan. However in the Sinai LtCol Natke Nir was a Centurion Brigade commander with some very significant exploits during the war (destroyed the Egyptian 130th Amphib Bde near Botzer for example). He was badly burned during the Six Day War and had to hoisted up into his command tank during the Yom Kippur War. He was in Adan's 162nd Udga/Division. Thus from the description the story may be a composite of both men.