28 cm HE Rocket -- infantry weapon ?!

[Epoletov___SPR]

Please, tell where it is possible to learn more about this weapon !

It is at German "Pioneer (flame)".

[DRG]

Well you could start by simply typing "28 cm HE Rocket" into Google

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/28/32_cm_Nebelwerfer_41

The 28 cm Wurfkörper Spreng (Explosive missile) rocket weighed 82 kilograms (180 lb) and had a 50 kilograms (110 lb) high-explosive warhead. The 32 cm Wurfkörper Flamm (Incendiary missile) was normally filled with 50 litres (13 US gal) (45 kilograms (99 lb)) of incendiary oil (Flammöl), but could carry poison gases or decontamination fluids. The oil could cover 200 square metres (2,200 sq ft)[1] Both rockets were spin-stabilized and electrically-fired.

Or if you prefer it in German

http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Waffen/raketenwerfer.htm

However, if all you want to know is why it's in an infantry unit it's becasue the Germans would drag the rocket and frame and point it at a target like a bunker or house and set it off. We get asked this question about once every two years.


Don

[Epoletov___SPR]

However, if all you want to know is why it's in an infantry unit it's becasue the Germans would drag the rocket and frame and point it at a target like a bunker or house and set it off. We get asked this question about once every two years.

Enough would be to have in Platoon two 28-cm HE Rocket.
In one of section a platoon.


And still, they could run more slowly, than usual infantry section.


Now Platoon and Company Pioneer (flame) - are overloaded by the weapon.

[DRG]

You think so and I don't and all the nit picking is getting old. There are lot's of examples of 2 man flamethrower teams which leaves 11 men in that squad to deal with two 45 KG rockets ( plus wooden frame ) and I don't consider that overloaded.

Don

[Epoletov___SPR]

Ок, it is possible in 1 section.

But I shall repeat, in Platoon and Company almost all section are armed 28-cm HE Rocket!


Pl and Company, but not section, are overloaded by the weapon.

[Imp]

I sort of see what he is trying to say, for 1 squad in the platoon to have is fine but the whole platoon lugging them around is probably a bit unusual. I have no idea though do think Germans went for making fireing of fast as possible even straight out of the crate.

[Mobryan]

I sort of see what he is trying to say, for 1 squad in the platoon to have is fine but the whole platoon lugging them around is probably a bit unusual. I have no idea though do think Germans went for making fireing of fast as possible even straight out of the crate.

I'll have to look for the site again, but I recall seeing a site with some really good pictures of those rockets in infantry use. Basically they used the same crate for all the missiles, the aiming end had a pair of rotating legs and it was prewired for the ignitor cicuit. The whole procedure was to set the crate on the ground, lift the aiming end to the right angle, set the legs, make connection to the ignitor circuit and fire.

Matt

[DRG]

Ок, it is possible in 1 section.

But I shall repeat, in Platoon and Company almost all section are armed 28-cm HE Rocket!


Pl and Company, but not section, are overloaded by the weapon.



That unit is flagged with radio code 11 which make it a rare pick and if this is an AI game and they all showed up that way then it's a very rare event NOT a common occurance.

If it's a PBEM then a human player can pick it as many times as he likes

Don

[DRG]

I'll have to look for the site again, but I recall seeing a site with some really good pictures of those rockets in infantry use. Basically they used the same crate for all the missiles, the aiming end had a pair of rotating legs and it was prewired for the ignitor cicuit. The whole procedure was to set the crate on the ground, lift the aiming end to the right angle, set the legs, make connection to the ignitor circuit and fire.

Matt

I recall one as well and if you find it post the URL please

Don

[Epoletov___SPR]

Ок, it is possible in 1 section.

But I shall repeat, in Platoon and Company almost all section are armed 28-cm HE Rocket!


Pl and Company, but not section, are overloaded by the weapon.



That unit is flagged with radio code 11 which make it a rare pick and if this is an AI game and they all showed up that way then it's a very rare event NOT a common occurance.

If it's a PBEM then a human player can pick it as many times as he likes

Don

Battle in PBEM has forced me to study this division steadfastly.

It is a nightmare - when a lot of similar units ! :hurt:

The artillery is not necessary to them.
These rockets perfectly supression armies of the opponent.

[Mobryan]

Not what I had in mind, but it does show the crate in good detail:

http://www.dragonmodelsltd.com/html/70201-sp02.html

Don- I'm still looking for that historical site, no dice so far. It's been a few years, I hope it's still active somewhere...



Matt

[gila]

Ок, it is possible in 1 section.

But I shall repeat, in Platoon and Company almost all section are armed 28-cm HE Rocket!


Pl and Company, but not section, are overloaded by the weapon.



That unit is flagged with radio code 11 which make it a rare pick and if this is an AI game and they all showed up that way then it's a very rare event NOT a common occurance.

If it's a PBEM then a human player can pick it as many times as he likes

Don

Battle in PBEM has forced me to study this division steadfastly.

It is a nightmare - when a lot of similar units ! :hurt:

The artillery is not necessary to them.
These rockets perfectly supression armies of the opponent.

Should have included conditions in pbem of no infrantry with rockets.
Never would see that in AI play i'm sure.
Just an example someone exploiting the game i would guess,clever little sharks.

[Epoletov___SPR]

In 1942 in Leningrad manufacture of jet mines М28 and М32 has been mastered. They themselves represented a copy of German heavy jet mines 28 cm Wurfkorper Spreng and 32 cm Wurfkorper Flam

http://www.dishmodels.com/wshow.htm?p=166

http://i454.photobucket.com/albums/qq261/Epoletov/M_31.jpg

http://zhurnal.lib.ru/img/w/wasilxew_wjacheslaw_wasilxewich/katysha/index.shtml

Infantry RKKA also used this type of the weapon.

[DRG]

I just got to this on my list

What's Russian unit 447 armed with and serving the same purpose as the German Engineer units ???

The only difference is the Russian unit ( was ) carrying three instead of two. ( not any longer.... ). I extended the service date to 12/46 though

Don