Rain of Stones?

[Lingchih]

Rain of Stones does not fully affect a 3000+ army. What's up with that? Attacking Ermor, for what it is worth.

[Jazzepi]

There's definitely a size to "battlefield wide" AoE spells. Playing Ermor with 4-5k armies, I discovered that a large portion of my army wasn't affected by spells like mass flight, will of fates, arrow fend, fog warriors, etc.

Jazzepi

[NTJedi]

Yes... Jazzepi is correct, unfortunately we'll have to wait for Dominions_4 development for these to be addressed.

[Executor]

Does anyone know how many troops can be affected by battlefield wide AoE spells by the way?

[Jazzepi]

It's an AoE around the caster, I believe.

Something like 3k for Ermorian sized troops.

Jazzepi

[Lingchih]

Fire Storm does fully effect the thousands of troops though.

[MaxWilson]

Interesting. I guess BEs don't suffer from the same problem as BF-wide instant spells.

[Jazzepi]

Interesting. I guess BEs don't suffer from the same problem as BF-wide instant spells.

I'm sure the way it was done is that BF-wide simply have a huge AoE that, for the most part, hits everything, but BE makes a check for each unit every turn.

Jazzepi

[PsiSoldier]

Yep If it's any consolation to you, while your Rain of Stone's will not hit my entire army... My own Battlefield wide buff's like my artifact that gives *All* my units Luck, or army of gold or such, does not in fact give all my units luck like it says, it does affect a large area but it does not actually affect the *ENTIRE* battlefield as it says it does. At least not when the entire battlefield consists of thousands of troops.

So it kind of works both ways.

[PsiSoldier]

I dont know that you can really say that Fire storm affects all units though.. I think it hits like what? 10% of units per turn or something like that. Seeing as how it doesnt hit 100% I think it would be difficult to say that it is in fact actually hitting the normal percentage of troops. The advantage there is that it just keeps going and going until eventually it will definitly be hitting the normal amount of troops per turn.

But it could be that battlefield Enchantments do actually do what they say opposed to Battlefield wide spells. It just doesnt matter so much either way in that case since it continues to work its magic for the duration.

[MaxWilson]

Fire Storm has a 50% chance to hit any given unit each turn.

-Max

[Bastiat]

Quick question about AoE:

From what I can gather these are all of the possible AoE values:

BF, 25, 15, 12, 10, 9, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0

0 - Presumably impacts caster only
1 - Presumably impacts the square the caster is in only
BF - Limits noted in thread, otherwise most of the BF

What is the AoE for values 2-25?

Is it the radius around the caster (150 squares for an AoE of 5)?

The diameter (39 squares for an AoE of 5)?

For an AoE of 5 is it a 5x5 square centered on the caster?

Is it literally 5 squares? And if there are 9 squares around and including the caster, are the actually 5 impacted squares a random draw from the 9 possible squares?

Also, does anyone know what the total area of the battlefield is?

[thejeff]

AoE is not necessarily centered on the caster. Many are ranged, so for caster substitute target square or square hit.

AoE is in # of squares, randomly chosen around the target square.

I think total battlefield area scales up for large numbers of troops, which may be where the BF effects not hitting everyone comes from?

[MaxWilson]

Yep, AoE is number of squares (NOT radius or diameter), and the battlefield scales up with troop size. I think vfb posted about this a couple of years ago--it becomes important when you're trying to plan troop placement and figure out how far your back line mages are from the enemy front line. He had nice little diagrams and everything...

-Max