Forge of Godhood - started

[Ironhawk]

I wouldnt mind a slowdown or pause in the schedule.

In other news: Jarkko, why are you ignoring my PM?

[Maerlande]

I'm fine with a slow down. Hopefully QM will be back. He mentioned he might be back this weekend.

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The Marignonian Royal Order of the Death Snake salutes Caelum for the pleasure of meeting them on the battlefield, prior to their nation disappearing in a puff of logic.

[Alneyan]

I could use a downtime between the 24th and the 26th, but I'm otherwise fine with the regular schedule... not that I need much time to do my turns for Man as I can't live up to Calahan's legacy of intricate battle plans!

[Maerlande]

Until QM is back in the saddle I'll keep my eye on the timer. I'm going to postpone hosting if I see it getting close to the time and there are missing turns. The only trouble will be bed time. I'll just make sure it's set for 12 hours more when I go to bed.

[Agema]

I'd like to request a permanent sub for MA Ermor. I've got a new job and have to move house soon, so I need to drop some Dom3 commitments, and I'm enjoying this game least.

[Agema]

Er, and a 48h delay would help me too. I've already staled the last turn.

[Jarkko]

Until QM is back in the saddle I'll keep my eye on the timer. I'm going to postpone hosting if I see it getting close to the time and there are missing turns. The only trouble will be bed time. I'll just make sure it's set for 12 hours more when I go to bed.

Ok, so I really did believe this, and that we would have maybe a three day pause at the holidays. Seems I was wrong. Seems I was not the only one who did believe so, with *three* players getting a stale turn :(

I understand the need to keep games going, I value that very much. But when several people asks the game to be delayed 2-3 days *at this point of the year* when most likely many people have other things on their mind, and those requests are simply ignored (despite giving the impression that the game is delayed), then I must say I utterly disappointed.

Not a good show. Especially when people have so far been very flexible in this game, this arbitrary stupidity seems like a major slap in the face. I suppose I should have objected to people changing nations and the previous delay requests, but I did imagine this game was not supposed to be such a game :(

Not a good show at all :( I think a new player for Pangaea should be found, I am really that pissed at this moment :(

[Maerlande]

I'm very sorry Jarkko. QM has come back and is taking control of Abysia. I was away for the 2 day Christmas break with limited access to the forums. Also I had assumed that QM was watching the timer. Again, that's my fault. When I left on the 24th things looked pretty good.

I should have set the timer to 96 hours before I left. Again, I apologize. I'll talk to QM. I think we should have a roll back for this one.

I am no longer playing in this game. Having switched nations once to try to resolve the substitution problem I don't feel comfortable rejoining. I have too much inside knowledge I shouldn't have. I also strictly limited my Abysia play to regency. Hold in place and keep the nation ready for QM.

So to sum up, I've tried hard to help the game keep going and feel quite bad about the mistake causing 3 stales.

Regards,
Maer

[Jarkko]

Maerlande, apology accepted. You made an excellent effor to keep the game going when it was near to collapse, and I value that very much.

Besides, I've had a few hours to cool down from the shock I got this morning, and it is clear to me these things happen. Water udner the bridge now, and all that :)
I'll talk to QM. I think we should have a roll back for this one.
There is only one thing I hate more (in Dominions, that is) than staling, and that is roll-backs. I for one wouldn't want to see that happen. Simply put, too much information has been revealed to those who did not suffer from this misunderstanding, and it wouldn't be fair to mess their game. Besides, nothing seriously bad happened to Pangaea due to the stale (except C'tis succeeded to take one of my capitals, but C'tis is nearly dead anyway ( ;) )), so lets keep moving on :)

[Immaculate]

i HATE roll-backs.

[Ironhawk]

... but C'tis is nearly dead anyway ( ;) ))

Ha. Ha.

Remember what happened last time you said that tho! :)

That said - are we still at war or what?

[Agema]

Many thanks to whoever took over Ermor - much appreciated. If you need any info on what's going on (although it should be fairly straightforward) please let me know and I'll fill you in.

[Immaculate]

I will not be able to play dominions after january 7th. I will need a replacement substitute. I will post in the appropriate thread to advertise for one.
Sorry.

[Maerlande]

Folks can determine if they are okay with me returning to play Ryleh. I do have some intel on Aby but it's a few turns out of date now. I'm happy to take Ryleh back.

[Immaculate]

sorry maerlande... :(

[Ironhawk]

No complaints here

[Immaculate]

I have found a player to take R'leyh for this game. its ossa. Can you please use his e-mail for R'leyh?

Can you please resend the turn for him so that it goes to him and he can take over.... If you need his e-mail address then please PM him or I.

Thanks,
I.

[Immaculate]

The turn for this game was sent to me instead of OSSA. i will not be able to play it. Please change the e-mail address associated with R'leyh from mine to Ossa's.

If this isn't done i am afraid R'leyh will stale.

I am sorry for any confusion but i have done my best to keep the administrator informed, to find a replacement and to provide details of the game to my replacement. if there is anything further you require of me i am happy to do so but i cannot play the turn.

Thank you,
Immac.

[quantum_mechani]

Game delayed since I'm traveling.

[Immaculate]

The server still thinks i am playing r'leyh- i got a server request for a turn.

to the admin: please read post 519 and 514

[Hadrian_II]

i will be away from my pc, as i will go to travel, but as i (ulm) am almost death anyway, i dont think that someone will object to me going AI.

[Baalz]

Nope, thanks for the game! Glad for an end to all those damn iron darts...

[Hadrian_II]

OK, im AI now. From now on no one will contain ermor for you, and i predict them now to rush to victory very fast .

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To preempt any possible Ermor blitz victory, Marignon will take immediate counter-measures. Pan, prepare to defend your VPs!

-- Insane Blind Wyrm Death Cult of Marignon

[Jarkko]

Right... Marignon declares war on Ermor, and Pan is the one to suffer. The mind boggles trying to figure out the logic of that :0

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When did Marignon declare war on Ermor? An breakaway faction of flagellants did happen to conquer an Ermorian province a few months ago, but they were excommunicated and executed (not necessarily in that order).

Ulm proclaimed that Ermor would rush to victory. It's a race. You can join in too, you know!

-- Crazy Death Wyrm Cult Spokesperson

[Jarkko]

Oh, ok. Pangaean rushing is slightly difficult at the moment, the naked women want food, even the wastelands where there is no food, damnit :( It's bad enough in the paradise dominion of fair Pangaea, but in the hellish and un-godly areas it is double as worse :(

To add salt to the wound, the pesky Agarthans refuse the to die, and C'tis (which is practically dead) also has problems with understanding what it means to "lie down and stay still, and please stop kicking back already"...

[Ironhawk]

To add salt to the wound, the pesky Agarthans refuse the to die, and C'tis (which is practically dead) also has problems with understanding what it means to "lie down and stay still, and please stop kicking back already"...

Hahah - just as "practically dead" as the last time you tried to claim that, I'm sure. I think you will be unpleasantly surprised at whats being cooked up at my cap for you. And I would like to point out for nettling purposes that I offered to settle the conflict, prior to the restart of hostilities :doh:

[Jarkko]

Hah, now Marignon joins the nations who have suprise attacked Pangaea. You may find out that "blitz" is not something that happens in fair Pangaea though, just like the other nations before Marignon have found out. You need a few thousand more troops to take the forts, because nobody repairs the walls as fast as a frenzied naked woman, or should I say, a few thousand frenzied naked women.

Sadly this means I *again* have to let C'tis live, and move my main armies back east. Grumble grumble... Please mr lizard, don't go and die to somebody else in the meantime, I would like that capital of yours as a payment for all the trouble your sneaky little backstab has caused to this day!

[Maerlande]

Oh this sounds fun :) Wishing you all the best from the former squid heads.

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Hah, now Marignon joins the nations who have suprise attacked Pangaea. ...

Apologies! Did you think that by "prepare to defend your VPs", we meant that in the general, "oh hi, don't forget about the VPs" sense, rather than "all your VPs are belong to the Death Wyrm Cult"?

No-one expects the Marignon Inquisition, even when we annouce we are coming!

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Oh hey! Aby and R'lyeh have both staled for the last 3 turns. Anyone seen QM lately?

[Maerlande]

No one seems to have seen QM at all. However, I believe I still have admin power. Do we need new subs?

[Maerlande]

I was wrong. I no longer have admin power

[Ironhawk]

No-one expects the Marignon Inquisition, even when we annouce we are coming!

Don't mind Jarkko - I think he's developing a persecution complex ;)

[Jarkko]

Fair Pangaea begins the counterattack! Enemies run in despair in front of the wrath of nature. Marignon will be sweeped off the map, they are soon as dead as C'tis already practically is!

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Did my scouts just see a GoR'ed Ice Drake leading an Oceanian army? Or were my eyes deceived?

[Baalz]

Nah, it's a transformed Capricorn. Theres a couple hundred or so running around upkeep free.

[vfb]

Thanks. It's quite possible someone's been reading your guide. :)

I gave up on Transformation after some insta-deaths ... I never know you could get cool things like Ice Drakes.

[Ironhawk]

Hey guys - sorry I blanked on my turn. Just got to work and saw the 6hr warning. Can I get a 24hr extension? I'll do it as soon as I get home after work...

[Maerlande]

Hi guys. Talked to qm. His life is gone crazy and no computer. So I do have admin power again and got you the extension IH.

I'd like to return as Ryleh since it's dead.

Have you guys killed off Aby?

[Maerlande]

QM is very unlikely to be back for quite a while. I'm going to look for a sub for Aby.

[Immaculate]

i'm still getting turns as r'leyh. i've set my email to junk them automatically. i DID find a sub so why you didn't impement him is beyond me and i hope it doesn't reflect badly on me.

[Maerlande]

I wasn't admining at that time and wasn't following. QM kind of dropped off the map due to computer problems so the whole thing got stuck. Not your fault.

I see the sub was Ossa. I'll see if he's still interested.

[Maerlande]

Ossa has offered to sub Ryleh and I will sub Abysia. Things should somewhat get back to normal.

[Ossa]

Hi;)
THough the turn is processing soon - who am I allied/NAPed to?

[Maerlande]

Everyone left you alone while staling. Renegotiate to your heart's content.

[Maerlande]

NAPs mean nothing in this game. It's all backstabbing.

[Maerlande]

Folks. I postponed hosting for 12 hours. A lot of turns are missing and I just can't quite get a handle on Aby tonight. I'm too tired from dancing last night :)

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Greetings Pan,

The Church is embarrased to have lost a couple good mages to Flying Shards, of all things! :) Next time we will bring our umbrella.

-- Death Wyrm Cult

[Jarkko]

Finally the supplysituation is improving! Got rid of a handful of Maenads, Marignon was nice enough to provide some help with that :)

[Maerlande]

Folks. As the admin, I'm strongly tempted to call this game a stalemate. Anyone have objections?

[Ironhawk]

I'm fine with a stalemate. Most of the other players I've talked to are no longer interested in the game and only playing out of sense of duty.

Lets call it quits

[Maerlande]

We had a discussion in IRC with most of the remaining players. They all want to call the game a stalemate.
The following agree: Abysia, Oceania, Marignon, Ctis.
Man is permanently away and I won't look for a sub.

Unless there are large and sensible objections I'm ending this game in two days from now.

[Micah]

I wholeheartedly support any resolution that happens with Agartha still living!

[Jarkko]

I agree, lets call it a stalemate.

[Baalz]

Yeah, I don't think anybody is having much fun with this one.

[vfb]

It was a fun idea though! Thanks QM for setting it up, and everyone else, subs and all, for playing along in the insanity.

[Ironhawk]

I was happy to have navigated my excuse for a nation through two crazily lopsided wars and somehow survived. Heh

[Maerlande]

The best thing about this game for me was figuring monstrous communions and spending piles of other peoples gems. Great fun. Although I must say 250 pearls on acashic was kind of dumb :)

[Jarkko]

This game started for me in a marvelous way. In the spirit of the game I attemtped a double betrayal and backstabb against both Agartha and Vanheim, who had ganged up on Pythium. To be honest, I didn't actually believe it would work out, but if it would, the prize would be great.

As it was, the double-whammy worked near perfectly. Except that I had to leave Agartha alive in a remote province, and that would come back to haunt me over and over again.

I had to leave Agartha alive because I was in a hurry to fight of Abysia and Atlantis. Then R'lyeh and C'tis joined the war too. And then Ashdod attacked Pangaea. And then Oceania. It did feel sort of cruel to be at war with seven nations at the same time, but to be honest it wasn't quite *that* bad. Atlantis folded over fast, Abysia suggested peace if they could have Pythium (as I at that point, and still now, had absolutely zero means to even threaten to take it back, I agreed), Oceania just burned a couple of my temples and seemed to be content with that, while Agartha was not (then) an offensive threat.

Which left Pangaea in a war with Ashdod (who was steamrolled with suprising ease, the manikin are absolutely great against giants), R'lyeh and C'tis. I deemed C'tis to be the weakest of them (sorry :) ) while their miasma is a pain to be attacked through, so I concentrated on R'lyeh after Ashdod. Fighting R'lyeh to a standstill we agreed to return to the pre-war borders. Meanwhile Agartha had woken up from its slumber, and taken Agartha back while I was still locked taking down Ashdod. I attemtped at some point a quick rush with meanads (who I really had too many of...), but they were no match for the giants of Agartha, and I decided to take care of them at some later point.

C'tis took Vanheim, but as soon as my forces from R'lyeh front arrived to the scene, C'tis was kicked out. I intended to press on with the attack (with undead leaders and tons of manikin (so immuned to disease) and maeanads (who I had serious supplyproblems through out this game; the game settings really didn't favour big living armies, and I spent most/much of my nature gems on supplyitems :( ), while the southern armies were to take Agartha out for good, but then Marignon attacked. Marignon was rather easily pushed back, and then I sent a huge maeanad forces over the straits, and they maeanads were killed. Staring at each other over the straits I think Pangaea and Marignong was in a stalemate.

This certainly was an interesting game in showing the power of the combined manikin+maenad armies, but due to the very low income (Carrion Woods is not what you want if you want any decent income :p) I was never able to get into the research race (as I simply didn't have the money to recruit more mages). When the evocations started to fly, I was in serious trouble. Still, I was hanging on to three capitals in the end, and I am pretty positive I would have been able to take out C'tis and Agartha eventually at *some* point (unless Pangaea had again been attacked by more nations :p).

Thanks for all for an interesting test for a game concept. Next time I don't think I want to take part in a game with quite *this* harsh settings, though :)

[LDiCesare]

I was in a hurry to fight of Abysia and Atlantis.
Actually Atlantis never really fought Pangaea. I sent some stranded mages throuugh your land once to get killed because it looked like the less impossible way for them to get back into the pond, but Atlantis never made, nor could make, any effort to attack Pangaea.

[Ironhawk]

I would have been able to take out C'tis...

Its grandiose to say you "kicked me out" of Vanheim when I surrendered it without a fight to go home and do more research. That said, my internal predictions were that I would defeat one more major attack of yours. Probably regaining Vanheim or the territory, at least. But after that would only be able to damage but not defeat a third major attack.

[Lingchih]

Wow, so this game finally ends... and in a stalemate... fitting. The settings were just too outrageous. I did have fun poking a stick in Pan's backside as Ashdod though, when I took them over. Ashdod was so crippled at that point, that was about all I could do.

[Jarkko]

I was in a hurry to fight of Abysia and Atlantis.
Actually Atlantis never really fought Pangaea. I sent some stranded mages throuugh your land once to get killed because it looked like the less impossible way for them to get back into the pond, but Atlantis never made, nor could make, any effort to attack Pangaea.
That however doesn't alter the fact that I diverted troops to guard the shore-provinces. Troops which would have sorely been needed elsewhere... Without any underwater scouts I simply had no way to know wether it was a failed attempt to escape or a scouting force before a major attack.

Ironhawk, if you are interested in seeing what troops and commanders I had in preparation for you, I can send you my turn. The longdead of C'tis would not have lived long against the banishment spam from the dryads and anti-undead spells (in case Marignon wondered where my pretender was, she was preparing the attack on C'tis and I didn't feel your two spearheads into my lands warranted her to move away from the setup fort against C'tis :) ) barrage I was prepared to deal to; not to mention the trampling troops (minotaurs and elephant manikin) I had there to rush through your ranks. Would have been interesting to see the rematch between your sauromancers and my tramplers, but this time I would have had quite a bit more priest power and a bit more magic power along too :)

[Maerlande]

Thanks for the game everyone. I quite enjoyed my experiments with Ryleh and Abysia and had a good learning experience.

[LDiCesare]

That however doesn't alter the fact that I diverted troops to guard the shore-provinces.
A pity. I had tried to explain it to you but I confess not having spent much effort on communicating with you since I was generally both unable and unwilling to do you any harm.