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Illuminated One
August 21st, 2009, 10:56 AM
What I'm looking for is nations with problematic early game.
Especially for those that can't easily reach spells that help them.
KissBlade
August 21st, 2009, 11:07 AM
Ryleh & Maverni
chrispedersen
August 21st, 2009, 12:34 PM
MA Agartha
Kuritza
August 21st, 2009, 02:30 PM
EA Atlantis isnt stellar in the early game either, afaik.
Sombre
August 21st, 2009, 06:10 PM
MA Oceania too.
Kuritza
August 22nd, 2009, 12:37 AM
Oh, and the mighty Bandar Log, of course. )) Not even elephants fully make up for damn apes and monkeys pretending to be warriors. :)
TheDemon
August 22nd, 2009, 01:12 AM
The only one I disagree with is MA Oceania; Ichtycentaurs are pretty damn good at expansion. After that is the issue.

LA Bogarus comes to mind.
vfb
August 22nd, 2009, 05:04 AM
Ryleh & Maverni

With CBM, Polypal Mothers are nasty. Instead of paying 50 gold for a Gibodai, you pay 50 gold for 1 free Gibodia per turn. Combine that with an awake cheap UW SC god (Kraken) to get you through the first year, good scales, and massive amounts of lobo guards.

I don't bother with paths on the Kraken, and depend on trade/luck/tiamat to get air gems for a fish ammy forger.
Illuminated One
August 22nd, 2009, 05:30 AM
Actually I think Marverni isn't that bad. You can get troop buffs and debuffs in alt and con early on and/or head for GfH. For example a vertgobret and 10 ambitate nobles can make a good raiding force.

Maybe I should rephrase the question. Which EA nations can't get a raiding force with < 400 gp and low level < lvl 4 spells?

What about Ermor?
Van? Ok, they can bless but are their sacreds worth it?
KissBlade
August 22nd, 2009, 08:55 AM
Ermor and Van are DEFINITELY not nations that come to mind for your requirements ...
TheDemon
August 22nd, 2009, 01:19 PM
Actually I think Marverni isn't that bad. You can get troop buffs and debuffs in alt and con early on and/or head for GfH. For example a vertgobret and 10 ambitate nobles can make a good raiding force.

Maybe I should rephrase the question. Which EA nations can't get a raiding force with < 400 gp and low level < lvl 4 spells?

What about Ermor?
Van? Ok, they can bless but are their sacreds worth it?

In EA? The answer is probably none. R'lyeh is your closest bet, followed by Atlantis. The others all can manage with either elite troops or commanders.
Squirrelloid
August 24th, 2009, 03:32 AM
I don't know, EA Agartha is pretty marginal.
chrispedersen
August 24th, 2009, 11:25 AM
I've played r'lyeh. I've played agartha. I think agartha is worse.