War is Hell 3 - Running

[johnarryn]

This game is currently running

Settings:
Early Age
Map: Random map Etruscae
12 players
Graphs on, no mods

Players& Nations:

johnarryn - Mictlan
DomDomDom - Oceania
Hunt11 - Niefelheim - Set to AI
Patataj - Yomi
Slobby - Sauromatia
AdmiralZhao - C'tis
Squirrelloid - Lanka
Viccio - Fomoria
Meglobobo - Ulm
Tgbob - Helheim
Pelthin - R'lyeh
Juffos - Arcoscephale

[Micah]

You should at least number your games if you're not going to come up with anything new and clever.

Welcome back old man.

[johnarryn]

Hehe, good point buddy. Well, I think this is the third iteration of the same game, so I suppose this will be "War is Hell 3" officially.

And thanks for the welcome. I just need to make sure I don't commit to like 10 games like I normally do when I get back into Dom3 =)

[DomDomDom]

I'm in.

[hunt11]

Sounds like fun, I'm in.

[johnarryn]

Great.... DomDomDom, you've drawn Oceania. Hunt11, you're Niefelheim. I've updated the first post to reflect this. Welcome aboard.

[Patataj]

If you don't mind one of those less experienced players, I would be more than happy to play.

[johnarryn]

Sure thing Patataj. You'll be playing Yomi.

[Slobby]

yay a non cbm game sign me up!

[AdmiralZhao]

Oh, let me sign up quick before the good nations are distributed.

[johnarryn]

OK. Slobby, you'll be Sauromatia.

AdmiralZhao, nice to see you again. You'll be playing C'tis.

[Squirrelloid]

No CBM? I'll actually have to unload it and see what that changes...

I'm interested, I clearly don't have enough games going on...

[johnarryn]

Welcome aboard, Squirelloid. You'll be Lanka.

[AdmiralZhao]

Someone remembers me from a previous game? That's never a good sign. Were you the one who had that unkillable, uncatchable cyclops? I still have nightmares about that.

[johnarryn]

Haha, an uncatchcable Cyclops? Nope... wouldn't know anything about that =)

If only the rest of my nation had been as unkillable, the game would have been in the bag. Alas.

[Squirrelloid]

egad, non-CBM is so weird. So few pretender choices actually worth using....

[Lingchih]

Heh, yeah. I need a game... I need a new game badly (ling shakes uncontrollably), but I don't think I know how to play without CBM anymore.

[viccio]

i will play

[Meglobob]

Sign me up. Thanks for organising.:)

[tgbob]

I am pretty bad, just ask Micah, but I would like to plaaay. Predicting that I get Caleum.

Edit: I'm going to be gone Saturday and Sunday, is that alright?

[Pelthin]

I am game to play again, if there is still room.

Thanks!

[johnarryn]

Glad for the interest. Four new nations have been assigned:

Viccio - Fomoria
Meglobobo - Ulm
Tgbob - Helheim
Pelthin - R'lyeh

Tgbob, I don't think your absence will be a problem... if we've started by Saturday, I will simply halt the game so you don't miss out in the early stages.

We have one spot open, ill wait till tonight, then set up the game on the llamaserver so we can send in pretenders.

I know it is not CB, but if you'd like to play Lingchih, feel free.

[Pelthin]

Oh god R'lyeh I need to brush up on that one.. :doh:

[Squirrelloid]

Don't feel bad, I never even *looked* at Lanka before last night.

[Pelthin]

hehehe... It should be interesting, Just looked and saw I only have a few choices for Pretenders, so I guess that makes it a little easier...

:)

[johnarryn]

This is why I like to play random nation games... it forces people to (often) play nations they are unfamiliar with. I think it helps you experience more of the game.

[Juffos]

I would like to join.

[johnarryn]

Ok Juffos, you're Arcoscephale.

With that, the game is closed. We will be using a random map I found off the llamaserver, as using a random map I created would be a hassle. It can be downloaded at:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=39819&highlight=etruscae

Please send your pretenders in in the next 48 hours. Send pretenders to:

pretenders [at] llamaserver [dot] net

You must have "WarisHell" in the subject line of your e-mail.

The game will begin on 24-hour quickhost, unless anyone has any objections. We can move to 48-hour later. Also, I will pause the game upon request.

Good luck everyone

[Slobby]

Would someone be so kind as to post the map in winzip format and not winrar.

Thanks

[johnarryn]

Rather than do that, you can also download a free copy of WinRar here:

http://www.rarlab.com/download.htm

Up to you, of course.

Alternatively, if you want to PM your e-mail address ill send you the map files in .zip format, Slobby.

[Pelthin]

Looks like Formoria used a mod when he created his Pretender, or so the first turn message says.

What is the best to do, restart, or let him play with the computer adjusted pretender?

[Juffos]

Restart the game.

[johnarryn]

The game has been rolled back to the "waiting for pretenders" stage. Everyone's pretenders are still there, so only Viccio needs to send in a new pretender. Please let me know when you have done so and I will start the game.

[hunt11]

Johnarryn I am using a mac so the map files you sent me did not work.

[johnarryn]

Hmmm... Hunt, its not clear to me why that makes a difference. I'm not a computer person, but I would think the map files are the same in both mac and windows versions of the game... are you having a problem unzipping the .rar file I sent? In that case you would need winrar, which is available for macs on the winrar site.

[viccio]

:(:(:(

Sorry

[hunt11]

i tried using winrar but all i got when i opened it was a bunch of messed up symbols

[Patataj]

What OS are you using?

I use a mac to play dominions, and I had no problem with mods or maps whatsoever.

[hunt11]

I'm using Mac OS X

[Patataj]

Since we both are online, why don't you join the forum chat. It would be easier to see what the problem is.

[DomDomDom]

i tried using winrar but all i got when i opened it was a bunch of messed up symbols



Link for Etruscae.rgb
http://depositfiles.com/files/dd0n1blo4


Zip arhive for Etruscae.map

[johnarryn]

I'm going to delay the turn hosting until Hunt11 gets his turn in. Thanks for posting the files DomDomDom.

[johnarryn]

Delaying turn again... Hunt11, can you give me an update? Those files DomDomDom post work?

[johnarryn]

I am delaying the game again, until Sunday evening. As tgbob had informed me he will be away today (Saturday) and Sunday, such a delay shouldn't slow things down too much. That being said, Sunday evening we start in earnest whether or not Hunt11 has his turn in, particularly as I haven't heard anything from him.

[johnarryn]

The second turn is out... I will look for a substitute player for Niefelheim (grumble).

[tgbob]

Thanks for the delay, but I'm back now and everything is fine.

[AdmiralZhao]

Good luck everyone. C'tis asks you to please remember to use necromancy responsibly.

[Squirrelloid]

Lanka urges you to use necromancy irresponsibly. Its more fun.

[johnarryn]

Folks,

Due to lack of sub response and to avoid further delays in the game, I have set Niefelheim to AI.

[tgbob]

Oh I.. stalled, huh. Guess this is what happens when you have horrible job.

[Meglobob]

Very unlucky in my starting positions lately!:(

Right next door to Lanka who has a W9S9N9 bless on his sacred demons!:shock:

A Lanka who intends to eat the ignorant savages of Ulm for breakfast. Cheap forging for the rest of the game, should any other neighbour of Lanka care to help me out!

[Squirrelloid]

A Lanka who intends to eat the ignorant savages of Ulm for breakfast. Cheap forging for the rest of the game, should any other neighbour of Lanka care to help me out!

Lanka is hungry. Please bring more victims food.

Edit: Sigh, no strikethrough command?

[AdmiralZhao]

Any tipss on where all of thiss iss happening? For ssome reasson C'tis never learned to build sscoutss.

[Squirrelloid]

Lanka has no other neighbors, you'll just have to wait your turn ;)

[Meglobob]

Any tipss on where all of thiss iss happening? For ssome reasson C'tis never learned to build sscoutss.

The deep south, on the right side of where the lake curves around. Lanka owns P26 & P6.

Its likely poor Ulm is doomed vs those demonic monkeys but by attacking me early Lanka has blunted his early expansion, which should cost Lanka later on. Also his scales must be terrible, which will slowly destroy him over the many years of the dominion war. Probably expand or a slow death for Lanka!

All other nations in the area should start organising an alliance to destroy him or face being next on the demonic monkey menu!

[Squirrelloid]

Any tipss on where all of thiss iss happening? For ssome reasson C'tis never learned to build sscoutss.

The deep south, on the right side of where the lake curves around. Lanka owns P26 & P6.

Its likely poor Ulm is doomed vs those demonic monkeys but by attacking me early Lanka has blunted his early expansion, which should cost Lanka later on. Also his scales must be terrible, which will slowly destroy him over the many years of the dominion war. Probably expand or a slow death for Lanka!

All other nations in the area should start organising an alliance to destroy him or face being next on the demonic monkey menu!

Yes, Lanka is so scary that all other nations should ally to destroy him. Look at that score graph lead! No one could possibly ever counter blessed monkeys!

Oh yeah, Ulm is just bitter because i rejected his offer for peace. So sorry. Lanka is more than willing to consider diplomatic relationships with nations whose capitol locations don't immediately stunt our growth. Ie, just about anyone else.

[AdmiralZhao]

If you promisse to never build anything but bassic monkeyss then we promisse to not be afraid of you. :)~~

C'tis for one will not let Ulm'ss brave sstruggle be for nothing. We hereby declare war upon the Lankan menace. Expect our forcess to arrive sshortly.

Alsso, Pataja, could you turn on your private messssagess? I'd like to be able to communicate with you through the forumss rather than waiting a month for a messssage to arrive.

[Meglobob]

C'tis for one will not let Ulm'ss brave sstruggle be for nothing. We hereby declare war upon the Lankan menace. Expect our forcess to arrive sshortly.

C'tis is truely one of the most wise and noble nations in the world!

The demonic monkeys are now camped outside of Ulm's great walls, feasting upon the brave hundred who tried to prevent the siege. In three to four months the walls will fall and Ulm will cease to be. Probably only to remembered for being the first to bring word of the demonic monkey menace...

[Squirrelloid]

Ah C'tis, quite foolish of you. Well, Lanka is hungry, and I can make monkeys faster than you can kill them this early in the game. So by all means, feed my armies for me. Ulmish peasants are tasty, lets see how lizards taste.

(Seriously C'tis, last chance for peace. Or you can follow Ulm into oblivion. I will not offer again).

[Patataj]

AdmiralZhao: I turned PM on (didn't know they were off by default).
Also, sorry for that affliction on your pretender (didn't know you wanted to attack that province).

[Squirrelloid]

Lanka is looking to trade for a hammer or possibly two. We have d,n and a little bit of e gems we could trade.

Lanka is also pleased to announce that Ulm has been crushed, and the last vestiges of Ulm will soon be occupied by their new benevolent lord. The Ulmish peasantry rejoiced greatly as their oppressors were thrown down, and a Priest was even seen rallying an army of converts to our cause in a former Ulmish province following the siege. This is a sign of the justness of our conquest, and a warning to the foolish reptiles of C'tis who would interfere in a war that was none of their affairs.

[Squirrelloid]

We see Mictlan desires to make a meal for the armies of Lanka as well. My demons are not picky, but the rajas are asking to reduce their food intake because they might get fat on all the meat they've been getting.

We might point out to the other nations of the world that a great hue and cry went up about our demons, but Mictlan is at least as bad, if not worse (the jaguar warriors we see in abundance are a far better unit), and they actually do have a dominating position in the game, including the 2nd largest nation at present. Further, their position tells us they likely have multiple neighbors. Given their commitment to warring against us, we'd point out to their rivals that now is a perfect time to strike against the Mictlan threat and eliminate them.

If afterwards you feel obliged to feed Lanka's demons by warring on us - well, you'll have to go through them anyway. And if Lanka should fall, we'd rather fall to something more than crazy people in cat leather.

As a post-script, the nation of Lanka apologizes to the peasants trapped in the last hold out of Ulmish oppression. Current political realities make liberating you infeasible at this time. (Sorry Meglo, i hate to leave you in the game with one province and no hope of doing anything, but Mictlan wouldn't leave me a turn to finish you off properly).

[johnarryn]

Lanka squeals in terror as it reaps the whirlwind that its mad aggression has called down upon it. Our priests have predicted that the time has come to put this beast down. Mictlan does not begrudge any who wish to aid us in destroying Lanka.

We, too, point out to Lanka's neighbors that now is a perfect time to strike against Lanka and eliminate them.

[Squirrelloid]

Yes, if you want to throw the game, aid Mictlan. Because rest assured, that's what such actions would amount to. (Not that we have real neighbors to take advantage of your 'offer').

[Squirrelloid]

Apparently everyone is ok with Mictlan not only being a leader in number of provinces, but also adding 2 additional capitols to his empire. Because rest assured, Mictlan has enough muscle to conquer us given time - which is exactly what you're giving him by not attacking him.

Any neighbors of Mictlan who don't want to have to conceed the game to him in ~10-20 turns might want to communicate with us about helping defeat the Mictlan menace.

[Micah]

I think the proper tactic for everyone else in the game is quietly sitting on the sofa with some popcorn, watching Lanka and Mictlan slug it out, and then promptly dog-piling the winner. =)

[AdmiralZhao]

I don't know why Lanka iss panicking now; they sshould have sstarted panicking when the invinsssible armiess of C'tis firsst marched againsst them. In any casse, Lanka'ss doom iss approaching. After a sshort layover at Yomi'ss capital, our legionss are once more on their way to Monkey City. Make your peace demon-ape'ss, for in 1-4 yearss we sshall arrive!

[johnarryn]

Wah, wah, wah. Mictlan is tied for 2nd in terms of provinces, while C'tis kills Yomi pretty much unopposed and Sauromatia apparently just racks up provinces. So I wouldn't say my win is exactly assured in 10-20 turns... or maybe it is, in which case everyone should just concede now =)

[johnarryn]

As an aside, I am starting another random nation game, this time late age, using the CB 1.6 mod. If you'd be interested in signing up for that as well, PM me or post in that game's thread.

[AdmiralZhao]

It lookss like the long war in the North, alsso known as the War againsst Ssauromatian Terror, alsso known as the Coward'ss War, iss finally over. After a year of maneuver, PD killing, and the rare outright battle, the endlessss undead of C'tis finally overwhelmed the cannibalss of Ssauromatia. No more sshall their ssacred calvary cassually sslaughter drovess of C'tissian heavy infantry. No more sshall their poissoned arrowss chew up our archer auxiliariess. The Ssauromatian leadersship hass fled into the sswampss around their capital, and ssunk deep into the mire of hisstory. Good game, sslobby. You fought well againsst very difficult oddss. There were a lot of monthss where it wass touch and go, and you came closse very closse to massssacring my main army. I alsso have to ssay that you were at a major dissadvantage sstarting the game out, given how low the population wass in mosst of your home provincess.

Now that Ssauromatia iss done for, it lookss like there are 4 contenderss left. Any sstoriess from elssewhere in the world? C'tis for one iss looking forward to developing itss peaceful corner of the world, and only hearing taless about battless in faraway landss.

[Slobby]

Yeah that start location wasn't the best, not because of the low pop but because of the low resources. I was nothing but a paper tiger...:D

[Squirrelloid]

Lanka would like to request Mictlan get its act together and put us out of our misery, we do not understand why we're still alive.

[AdmiralZhao]

Perhapss he is waiting for you to send your gemsss and itemsss to some worthy ressipient?

[johnarryn]

I have set the hosting interval to 48 hours.

[AdmiralZhao]

Well, now this is weird. Last turn I have a castle with a lab and about 20 mages that was besieged by barbarians. This turn my forces broke the seige, but the lab is no longer present. There weren't any special events at the province this turn, and I went back and reviewed the orders I just sent and I did not accidentally tell any of the commanders to burn down the lab. Anyone have a clue what is going on?

[Micah]

The indies got the lab burned down event.

[johnarryn]

Hey fols... sorry for the delay in the game. After all the llamaserver shenannigans, I was swamped at work and haven't been able to put in my turn. Will do so tomorrow, and hopefully we'll be rolling again.

[AdmiralZhao]

No problem at all. Really, don't worry if you miss a turn or two, work is more important than a silly computer game.

[johnarryn]

Well that sucks... I had delayed the game about 4 hours before the deadline on the llamaserver... but apparently it didn't work. Oh well =(

[AdmiralZhao]

JohnArryn, do you think that you will be able to continue the game? Or should we start looking for a sub/AI?

[johnarryn]

I will continue... once again, that last stale was unintentional, I have had some bad luck with them lately =(

I certainly don't want to throw the game, so ill continue.

[AdmiralZhao]

It looks like the campaign to liberate the Mictlani lands is finally coming to and end. There was hard fighting, and many brave lizard soldiers were either chopped to fiery bits or accidentally turned into small piles of gray dust, but their sacrifices were not in vain. Good game JohnArryn. Thanks for fighting it out to the last.

[johnarryn]

I do like to stay in until all is hopeless... which in this case was several turns ago. But I'll be in until the bitter end. Excellent game AdmiralZhao, as always I am impressed by your skill!

[tgbob]

And yet another overwhelming morale victory against the forces of the dastardly Oceania!

[AdmiralZhao]

Helheim is my hero. <3 <3 <3

I kept seeing their commanders going higher and higher in the HoF, while not controlling any provinces. I kept wondering what the heck was going on, and whether this was some strange ploy by Oceania. No, it just turns out that Steve and Vanlade are invincible. Or at least mostly so. I saw the latest battle, and I both mourn and admire Vanlade's noble death.

[AdmiralZhao]

With Arco effectively gone, there is just one nation left to contest against C'tis. That will not be true for long. We hereby declare war on the fish-men.

[tgbob]

I am honestly surprised that I am still in the game somehow.

[johnarryn]

My hat goes off to you for staying in so log tgbob =)

That's impressive.

[DomDomDom]

2 AdmiralZhao

As I understand our NAP3, orders to attack are on turn 57 and first battles on turn 58.

[AdmiralZhao]

Dang. I was kind of hoping you would roll over and surrender now that Arco is gone. :)

[DomDomDom]

No. I'd like to get some lategame experience before I surrender. :)

[DomDomDom]

I staled last turn, but even if I hadn't this would not change situation
in general.
Oceania can't stop tartarian hordes of C'tiss and have to surrender.

[AdmiralZhao]

Dang, so it wasn't my tactical genius which half-won me that battle? Well, GG. I was scared for a while there that you had enough clams and wishes to make a go of it.

I believe this brings War is Hell 3 to a close. GG all.