LA Glory (And Begin!)

[Tolkien]

I think it's time I come out of my self-imposed (well, RL-imposed) exile from Dominions land. In any event, this is going to be a game for newbies to intermediate level players (I think I fall somewhere between those two), and as such, I've picked Cradle as people tend to be more familiar with it.

Game Name: Glory

Era: Late

Map: Cradle of Dominions

Mod: CBM 1.6

Settings: Default+Renaming+HoF 15+Magic Sites 40

Turns: 24 hours for the first two years, 48 hours after that, and 72 hours on request. Hosting delays also on request.

Nations:
Tolkien-Ulm (again)
Squirrelloid-R'lyeh
johnarryn-Midgard
Alpine Joe-C'tis
Ferrosol-Patala
Kheldron-Utgard
viccio-Mictlan
the Vanishag-Gath
Erio-Bogarus
Raiel-Jomon
ghoul31-Acroscephale
DeathJester-Atlantis

NOTE: If you would like to tweak some game settings (ex. magic site frequency, etc.), post in this thread and put it to a vote. This game's a (quasi-)democratic entity, and so I will take your opinions into account.

Now, I must figure out how to deal with the new CBM changes, specifically the only-one-earth-booster deal and no-bloodstones part as well. Anyways, ignore my ramblings.

[Squirrelloid]

Rlyeh. This time for sure!

I wouldn't be averse to boosting site frequency a little.

[johnarryn]

I'll join as Midgard.

[Alpine Joe]

Now that dominions is back up and running i'll take a crack at LA Ctis. Nice to have you back tolkein!

[Ferrosol]

I will join as Patala

[Kheldron]

I haven't played for months so that might be the game for me :)
I'll join as Utgard

[viccio]

I will try to play with Ulm

[Kheldron]

I think the OP already selected Ulm...

[viccio]

i have a very bad memory i read this but I forgot immediately ... :(

Ok , i chose Mictlan... This time I should have chosen well;)

[the Vanishag]

After <a href=http://www.gameology.org/essaat/the_kohen_gadol_has_horns_the_fates_of_t>writing about Gath,</a> I've been looking for a chance to play them in MP.

Beware Gibborim, my son, and shun the towering Kohen Gadol!
(apologies to Lewis Carroll)

[viccio]

My friend it's interesting to play with Bogarus (Erio)

[Kheldron]

btw is it hosted on Ilamaserver or...?

[Tolkien]

@ viccio- if you really want Ulm, you can take it. I was going to use this game to try and update my old strategy guide for CBM, now that bloodstones are out (which means as an earth/blood nation, Ulm suffers pretty badly), but if you want it: by all means, take it.

I'll just play around with Tien Chi or maybe Atlantis if you want it. Jomon? I'm not sure.

So at the moment, I signed you up for Mictlan, but if you want Ulm, just say so.

Kheldron-Of course!

[viccio]

No Problem,Mictlan it's ok ,I want to try this too.

[Raiel]

I would dearly like to join as Jomon. How many players are you going to wait for?

[Tolkien]

I'd say at the most 2 more.

[ghoul31]

I'll take arco

[Deathjester]

I'll join as Atlantis.

[Tolkien]

Aight, now that we've got all twelve slots filled, does anyone want to see a slight boost to magic site frequency (5-10), or would you prefer it to stay on default settings? I'll give everyone 36 hours to vote, before I decide and start getting this show on the road.

[Kheldron]

I don't mind a boost on site frequency :)

[Deathjester]

If I have to vote, I'd prefer default magic settings.

[Alpine Joe]

I vote to keep magic site settings at default.

[the Vanishag]

A slight boost is OK with me. I'll suggest a slight bump-up to resources, as well - that'd help Ulm compensate for the lack of bloodstones. I won't deny that Gath (another earth/blood nation, though with more magical diversity than Ulm) would benefit as well.

[Ferrosol]

I don't particularly care either way as more resources and gold just means more unfriendly pachyderms :D and more gems is nice whatever nation you play

[ghoul31]

I vote for default settings

[johnarryn]

Default

[Deathjester]

Me too - default.

[Squirrelloid]

Note that default sites is 35 for Cradle. I wouldn't mind seeing 40-45.

[Deathjester]

Isn't 35 always default for LA?

[Squirrelloid]

I think it varies by map. I know some other eras do.

[Tolkien]

So just a point of clarification, it would be magic site frequency 35 if we go default or 40-45 if we decide on a boost.

As for increasing resources: I'm against that. My goal is not to boost LA Ulm for balance this game, but to figure out to what extent 1.6 undermines Ulm in MP, and to see if I can't figure out how to compensate for it with some of the other changes in CBM. If you're worried about compensating for the changes in 1.6 for Ulm, you don't have to. So another 18ish hours before pretender uploading begins.

[Tolkien]

Aight, game's running.

linky: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LAGlory

[Tolkien]

Oh, and I decided to bump up magic sites to 40 from 35.

[the Vanishag]

Sorry about the delay. I was at a conference over the weekend and I thought I'd at least be able to get in my pretender while I was there, but I was just too busy. I should have it uploaded within the hour.

[johnarryn]

Cool... seems we will still be waiting on about 4 more.

[Squirrelloid]

I'm playing an experimental pretender build - we'll see if this actually does what I want it to do.

[Deathjester]

I too apologize for the delay. I've had a cramped weekend, but I will have my pretender ready today.

[Kheldron]

Viccio, is your friend Erio really in? Because he's the last one we're waiting for and he didn't even post once in this thread...:confused:

[Deathjester]

I think I have a substitute ready if we need one. Just let me know.

[Kheldron]

Viccio? Tolkien? anyone? hellooo? :confused:

[Deathjester]

Llamaserver is down, maybe that's why everyone is keeping quiet - it might also be the reason why the 12th pretender has not been submitted.

However, it would be nice if Viccio could confirm that his friend is in, or not..

[Deathjester]

Llamaserver is back online! :)

So, is the 12th player playing or not? Should I tell the substitute I have lined up that he can send a pretender in and introduce himself here?

Let's get this game on.. :angel

[Tolkien]

Well, our 12th player has submitted his pretender, so let us begin!

To Glory!

[johnarryn]

Are people really going to make us wait 48 hours for the exciting news that we all recruited guys and chose a prophet? Come on folks, get them turns in! =)

[Tolkien]

It appears so. :x

As a reminder, the hosting schedule for the first two years will be at 24 hours; after that, it shall be subject to boosting.

[johnarryn]

I would note (and this isn't meant to be unkind, just a statement) that AlpineJoe, who is playing C'tis, has staled for the last few turns in EndofTime3, another game he is in... looks like he's getting set to stale on turn 1 in this game, might want to start looking for a replacement?

[Kheldron]

To be fair, if we decide to look for a replacement we should restart the game.

[Kheldron]

It seems I replied too early :)

Johnarryn/Midgard, I wouldnt be in your place for anything right now :sick:

[johnarryn]

Yeah. Hurricane on turn 2, and i don't even have misfortune. Awesome.

[Gregstrom]

Lo, thou art as an item of statuary below the incontinent pigeon of Fate. Our sympathies go with you.

[Tolkien]

Oh wow. Let's hope I don't pick up the Ancient Presence in a couple turns. :)

[Squirrelloid]

I'm so glad i took Lk3 to get nothing but bad events. Oh yay. I'm losing to the RNG here...

[johnarryn]

I feel your pain, o tentacled one.

[Kheldron]

I feel like I should have tightly shut my mouth as I got a bad starting position AND now an unrest event on my cap.

Great!

Triumph without peril brings no glory :D

[Tolkien]

llamaserver was especially good to me, giving me one of the awesome heroes with Misf-1. :D

[Deathjester]

I've been lucky too, apart from a semi-bad starting position and having a mage killed by a single bowshot from an independent archer.. :(

But I got one of those "market" gold events the turn after, so I'm not complaining.

By the way, I will be going away this weekend. I am hoping we can postpone the game for a day or two?

[Ferrosol]

I have been unlucky mostly due to an elephant rout that decided to run through the middle of my army :( Still monkeys are cheap

[Squirrelloid]

Stop whining about minor inconveniences - my capitol is sieged by sufficient force from an indie attack that I can't break out. I'm teetering on the brink of setting AI - the first time I will *ever* have done so. Its ridiculous, especially because i have Lk3.

(I also haven't seen a single good event all game...).

[Tolkien]

Ouch, that is bad. Which event? Sea Troll attack?

deathjester: of course! 48 hour delay should be enough for the next turn. Or, if you can get that one in, 24.

[viccio]

Erio had requested a suspension until Wednesday

[Squirrelloid]

Ok, I'm setting AI. Attacked by Sea Trolls *again*, this time disrupting a fortress right before it finished, and killing some 25 units. (And yes, my full Lk scales had spread to the province in question). This is just ridiculous and unplayable. Totally hosed by the RNG.

[Tolkien]

Ouch. Well, I can understand why.

[Kheldron]

The giants of Utgard are looking for some earth gems.
We can provide water astral death & nature gems as well as blood slaves or items in the aforementioned paths.

[Ferrosol]

Damn, Invaded by the combined might of Utgard and Midgard. Still at least Midgard is now missing most of an army. And I am missing my markata hordes shame I liked those little monkeys.

[Tolkien]

Bah. I hate ninjas. Always killing my commanders on the most imopportune turns.

[Tolkien]

Also: does anyone want to have the hosting time to 36 hours? For the most part, I think it isn't necessary, but just seeing if anyone though otherwise.

[Kheldron]

24h is still fine for me but I don't mind 36h if some are having a hard time to get their orders on time.

[Deathjester]

I would not mind a 36 hour interval, I would even welcome it. It would make the puzzle fit easier, so to say.

[viccio]

there is a problem... i don't recive any advice for turn 27... in the afternoon I asked to resend the turn but the server has sent it to me at 2:00 AM... obviously at that time I was in bed

[Kheldron]

There are often turns postponed, I suppose for very good reasons and that OP is sent PM, but it would be nice to post here to announce it to others.
I say that because, between job and family, I usually have to plan in advance when I will do my turn and it kind of wreck my planning...

[Raiel]

Hey all...

I expected to do my turn tonight, but my wife called dibs on the afternoon... now I'm too inebriated to do my turn. I would like to request a 24 hours extesion. My apologies to all for the delay.

[Kheldron]

No problem for a delay here, thanks for letting us now in advance :)

I don't want to sound the complainer (erf...again), but I'm sad to see some going AI without letting the rest of us know. True, I half expected it of Mictlan after obliterating his main army but...
Squirelloid/Rlyeh at least told us way in advance. Dunno about Bogarus.

In fact, I can only commend people to read this thread :
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=43620

This game is (not only) about winning, it's about "playing" :p

[the Vanishag]

Hi, everyone. After 5/12 years of teeth-grinding work, I have now (as of Mon.) completed the last bureaucratic task in my way and I am now a Pn.D. Unfortunately, I then proceeded immediatey to get I-can't-get-oft-of-bed sick.

After this turn (the one just delayed) processes, could we hold the game until Saturday? I'd really appreciate it.

Tof (the Vanishag)

[Deathjester]

No problem for a delay here, thanks for letting us now in advance :)

I don't want to sound the complainer (erf...again), but I'm sad to see some going AI without letting the rest of us know. True, I half expected it of Mictlan after obliterating his main army but...
Squirelloid/Rlyeh at least told us way in advance. Dunno about Bogarus.

In fact, I can only commend people to read this thread :
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=43620

This game is (not only) about winning, it's about "playing" :p

Well said.

[Deathjester]

I need a 48 hour delay on the current deadline. (Until GMT 00:10 Monday that is)

I will not be able to submit a turn until sunday, unfortunately.

[Deathjester]

I managed to get my turn in, I only might need a small extension to the next deadline..

[Kheldron]

So, we should have a postpone until saturday for this turn then a postpone until monday for the turn after, right?

[Deathjester]

So, we should have a postpone until saturday for this turn then a postpone until monday for the turn after, right?

Yes, that is correct. I got this turn in, so unless someone else needs a delay, this turn could be processed as planned, ie late saturday. That would mean next turn would not process until sunday/monday anyway, which is fine by me. I will be back by then.

[the Vanishag]

Just poping my head up to let everyone know that, despite stales this week, I am still in the game and not going anywhere. I shouldn't miss any more turns (false gods know I can't afford to).

[Kheldron]

Quite happy to hear that. I was beginning to worry about those repeated stales. Welcome back! :)

[Kheldron]

I must say I'm really really happy to see that noone staled last turn as I was beginning to worry.

In fact I'm so glad I don't even mind the awful global that has been cast by the one who, I'm afraid, also has the Chalice and scepter of dark regency ;)

[Alpine Joe]

Sadly for the Tartarian hopefuls of C'tis you are wrong about both of those things.....

[Kheldron]

you mean we should be wary of both Ctis and Jomon instead of just you? :rolleyes:

Don't worry : I am ;)

[Deathjester]

Can delays please be announced when they occur? I do not mind the delays as such, I would just like to be notified. It would be a lot easier to plan gettings turns in.

Also, it would be nice to know if I have another 24 hours to think..

[Raiel]

I'd like to request a 12-hour extension, please. For that matter, if there aren't any objections, I'd like to see the schedule move to 48 hours sometime soon.

[Kheldron]

Glad to see Raiel getting his turn on time without the delay he asked for.
Tolkien, you seem to have a hard time to avoid staling and answering those demands.
If you wish I can volunteer to second you. I'm online most of the time so I could answer faster when needed. Just PM the master password if you agree.

[the Vanishag]

Did anyone else get a "wrong turn #" error? I just staled even though I know I sent in orders for the correct turn.:pc:

It may be because I'm playing on 2 PCs and hadn't synced my files before downloading the new turn... but it shouldn't matter, as I was able to play the turn locally without difficulty...

[Deathjester]

Will there be some kind of "christmas break"? I have some problems with access and even more problems with time, especially 24th-27th. Postponing after next turn until the 27th and then setting a long post schedule? (in case people can't get their turns in, but if they do, we can still have quick host on)

[Kheldron]

the 24th-27th break would be welcome. I'll take the game on my usb key but I'm not sure of when I'll have an easy access to make my turns. A long post schedule with quickhost would be good indeed.

[Deathjester]

Tolkien, are you there?

Three stales in a row now - where is our administrator?

[Tolkien]

Sorry, I was having issues. <_<

Also, sure, a 72-hour delay for the holidays is fine. The only thing major that happened during the turns anyway is that I missed out on some big-ticket artifacts. It's a rather peaceful time for me.

[ghoul31]

going AI

[Tolkien]

I'm also going to issue a 24 hour delay for New Years.

[Tolkien]

48 hour delay requested.

[Kheldron]

I guess you forgot to put quickhost back on. All turns in and no hosting. ;)

[Tolkien]

Oi, you're right. Turned it off for the holidays and forgot about it. :p

I'm such a forgetful person.

[Tolkien]

Issued a 12 hour delay.

I'm also going to extend the hosting time from 36 hours to 48 hours, starting turn 60. If anyone thinks it ought to be longer then that, speak now.

[Raiel]

The Artificers of Jomon do hereby proclaim to the world the availability of trade for non-unique items!

1 Ring of Wizardry and 1 Robe of Magi are both available for immediate trade. Send a PM with your best offer or drop by IRC channel #dominions.

[Alpine Joe]

Well, the artifact wielding armies of Utgard and their atlantian allies will soon overwhelm the proud nation of C'tis. Let the rest of the world beware of their unholy alliance.

[Kheldron]

Unholy is a church point of view I'm afraid.
Most of my troops are most holy in my humble opinion ;)

[Deathjester]

I have a major issue. I've recently moved, bringing the game with me on a usb stick. I lost it today. I won't be able to play until the night between sunday and monday at the earliest - after I've managed to get my hands on my Dominions disc which is at my old place.

I am terribly sorry. I humbly ask you to postpone for the rest of the week - if this is acceptable by the other players. I really can not do anything about it..

[Deathjester]

I have a major issue. I've recently moved, bringing the game with me on a usb stick. I lost it today. I won't be able to play until the night between sunday and monday at the earliest - after I've managed to get my hands on my Dominions disc which is at my old place.

I am terribly sorry. I humbly ask you to postpone for the rest of the week - if this is acceptable by the other players. I really can not do anything about it..

A stroke of luck - one of my students found the usb stick and returned it to me (I work at a high school). Never mind the stale. It was my mistake - I can live with it.

[Deathjester]

Can you please postpone for say, 10-12 hours, please?

Sorry about this guys - new job, new flat, everything is a mess.

[Kheldron]

No problem.
Real life orders can take a long time to turn in...;)

[Deathjester]

Indeed Kheldron.

Looks like I stalled again. Fantastic. Well, never mind. I was late in requesting the postponement I suppose.

Well, it's time for Atlantis to come out of their hibernation..

[johnarryn]

Hey folks... due to real-life time constraints I find myself unable to give my turns the thought they deserve, and i've been staling some as well. I'm therefore going to look for a sub - failing that, i will go AI. I will try to get a couple more turns in while I look.

[johnarryn]

Hey guys,

13lackGu4rd will be taking over for me, i'm transferring the turn to him on llamaserver. I've apprised him of the diplomatic situation, but it might also be prudent to remind him of treaties you had with me. Thanks for the game!

[Raiel]

I'd like to request a 24 hour extension - it will be very helpfull for me, and I'm sure the sub would appreciate the extra time to settle into Midgard's position.

It was a pleasure to play against you, johnarryn. I hope we get another chance soon.

[Kheldron]

Hey guys,

I'll be on a trip all of next week which has only been confirmed an hour ago. Sorry to warn you so late but would I have a long postpone with quickhost on?
I'll try to find a connection and will take my usb key to do my turn but...nothing's sure

[13lackGu4rd]

I(the new sub) will need to enter the game first ;) as of now I have received no indication from Llamaserver that I have been subbed in, even tried asking for turn resend just to make sure but nope... so it's hard to say how much time I'll need seeing as I can't watch the Midgard empire left to me yet...

[Kheldron]

Well, we've got a problem with our host. I can only cry on my iPhone looking at a stale That should not have been. I have no way to do my turn where I am and our host doesnt answer his pms.
Can someone contact Llambeast to fix this?

[Deathjester]

I've taken over as admin. Message me if you need postponing etc..

[Raiel]

I hereby concede victory to the alliance of Utgard and Atlantis.

It was a fun game right up until I beat back midgard's suprise attack. At that point, I realized that I had expended too much material on my defense - though i did try, I never quite gave the game the attention it deserved after that, since I had too many games going anyway.

Thanks for the experience, guys!

[Deathjester]

The brothers in ice prevailed. As Jomon saw the combined might of the forces of the eternal winter he conceded. The forge of the ancients provided an immense number of magic items and mechanical men (frosted) for Atlantis and in turn an immense number of gems fo r Utgårds Arcane Nexus.

The eternal winter now reigns as the two gods, Badmoon and Lei, ascend as one. They will be great gods of a world where demons and the undead serve side by side with mechanical servants - under the rule of the united peoples of Atlantis and Utgård. Great ships of ice sail the frozen seas and the forge was used to build great new wonders, ever fueled by the arcane nexus.

Hail Badmoon! Hail Lei!

Thanks for a good game. Admin issues aside, it was a good game and I had a lot of fun throughout.

[Deathjester]

In summary:

Winners:
Utgård, with the god Badmoon, played by Kheldron
Atlantis, with the god Lei, played by Deathjester

Honorary mention to second place Raiel and Jomon.

[Kheldron]

Thanks all. Looking forward to see you in other games :)

I posted in the HoF Lei