Tarrax - Newbie Game (running) - EA 4-8 players on tiny/small random map

[Tarrax]

I'm a newbie both in multiplayer Dom3 as well as game making. So I wanted to organize a newbie game to gain experience on both areas. I don't know how realistic this is but my goal is to have a quick newbie game that will end before Christmas. Here are the game settings (additions/clarifications will be made as needed):

* LlamaServer
* CBM 1.6
* Early Age
* 4-8 players
* Tiny or small random map
* Mercs are OK
* Non-binding diplomacy
* No score graphs
* Last pretender standing
* Turns every 24 hours first 10 turns adjusted as necessary afterwards

The rest of the settings will be standard or will be clarified if needed.

I will update this post with the nations as people sign up. We will start once we think there is a reasonable number of players.

Players signed up:
* Tarrax - Marverni
* Fantomen - Agartha
* Svamptripp (replaced by Hurmio) - Mictlan
* Kref - Fomoria
* jmb - Arco
* Louppatient - Sauromatia
* sansanjuan - Ulm

So if you're a newbie, show your interest by posting here. :D

Thanks.

Tarrax

[Fantomen]

I might not be newbie enough anymore, but if I´m welcome I´d like to play Agartha.

[Tarrax]

As long as other newbies don't object, you're welcome sure. :) I actually like to learn. Thanks for your interest. We'll see who else is interested.

[Svamptripp]

I'm a long time lurker and for sure a newbie. I would like to try MP and if it's ok I would like to play as Mictlan.

[Tarrax]

I'm a long time lurker and for sure a newbie. I would like to try MP and if it's ok I would like to play as Mictlan.

Sure. Added you in.

[Pelthin]

I would love to play, sounds like fun!

How about Lanka for me.

[jmb]

How long would the turns last? And can I take Arco, please?

[Louppatient]

I'm interested, with Sauromatia (second MP game for me, the first is in its first turn, so I should qualify as MP newbie :) )

[Tarrax]

For turns I am thinking one turn every 24 hours for at least first 10 turns. Then we can stretch to every 36 or 48 hours if needed. We can talk about it at that point.

It looks like we already have 6. Should we wait for a couple more or start?

I think I'll take Marverni.

[Svamptripp]

If no one else is joining I'm ok to start with the 6 players we have now. For turns it's ok for me to start with 24h per turn.

[Fantomen]

Six players is fine I think.

How about this map: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=44093

93 land provinces is pretty good for 6 players, and the map looks nice.

[jmb]

Six players is fine I think.

How about this map: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=44093

93 land provinces is pretty good for 6 players, and the map looks nice.

Fine with me.

[Svamptripp]

Six players is fine I think.

How about this map: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=44093

93 land provinces is pretty good for 6 players, and the map looks nice.

Very nice map. Totally ok with me.

[Tarrax]

Looks like a great map. In that case I'm gonna stop recruiting and create the game.

[Tarrax]

I received a PM from sansanjuan asking if he could be Ulm so I added him in. We're 7 now. I still haven't created the game. The map isn't on Llamaserver so I PMd the map creator asking permission to upload it to Llamaserver.

[Fantomen]

The map is already uploaded in the maps forum and is made for multiplayer by a known mapmaker, you don´t need any permissions to use it. Leaving your thanks in the maps thread is a nice gesture though.

[Tarrax]

OK, game created. Upload your pretenders! :D

[Louppatient]

Done :)

[Svamptripp]

Sorry for the delay. As I made the last pretender the game has now started. Good luck to everyone. :D

[Tarrax]

No prob. Good luck everyone. :)

[Tarrax]

By the way, Pelthin are you Fomoria? You had asked for Lanka. Not a big deal, just making sure it's you.

[Louppatient]

I just got the 4th turn this morning, and :
- Formoria seems not to be Pelthin (I suppose the in-game message asking if there was a related forum was sent to all players ?)
- Agartha staled

[Svamptripp]

I just got the 4th turn this morning, and :
- Formoria seems not to be Pelthin (I suppose the in-game message asking if there was a related forum was sent to all players ?)
- Agartha staled

I also got that message and it seems that someone took Pelthins place. If that's the case then I think we should consider to restart the game if he still wants to play.

[jmb]

I just got the 4th turn this morning, and :
- Formoria seems not to be Pelthin (I suppose the in-game message asking if there was a related forum was sent to all players ?)
- Agartha staled

I also got that message and it seems that someone took Pelthins place. If that's the case then I think we should consider to restart the game if he still wants to play.

I agree.

[Fantomen]

Yup I staled. Not because of lack of time but because I forgot to send the turn after doing it, totally stupid:doh:

I second the call for a restart, not because I staled (my own fault), but I think it´s unacceptable that people steal someones player slot.

Still, even if we restart, we should host another time just to make contact with the guy. Apparantly he doesn´t know the customs here and meant no harm.

[Tarrax]

Pelthin,

Can you post here to verify you're not playing right now? We can do a restart. I'll also PM you.

[Tarrax]

This is what I got from Pelthin. I'll follow general consensus.

Quote:

Tarrax,

it is not me. My computer crashed, and I jsut got it back up and running.

I need to bow out of the game, so whoever the other person is can keep playing and I will bow out.

Thanks.

[Fantomen]

Sorry for Pelthin.

I guess the other unknown person can play if he gets in on the forum and understands how it works in future sing-ups.

I´ve had the same thing happening in two other games so I think it´s important to discourage this behaviour.

[Kref]

Hello, I'm playing for Fomoria.
I tried to find some games on http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/forumdisplay.php?f=145, but has difficulties with finding a game with acceptable parameters which is not already running.
Can someone tell me how to find not started games at this forum in future?

Else one moment: what means "non-binding diplomacy"? I shouldn't try to make non-agression pacts and trade items with other players?

[Fantomen]

Hi Kref, welcome to the community!

You find games and sign up here. Sometimes there are none that are open, in that case you can start your own by posting a new game thread and describing what kind of game it is, house rules, how many players you are looking for etc. Usually you create the game on the llamaserver or elsewhere when you have full signups.

Keep in mind not to sign up in too many games initially, a single game can become very time consuming after a while and go on for many months.

Non-binding diplomacy should mean any deals are based entirely on in-game trust, and that players are allowed to break treaties as they wish. In other words: If you´re backstabbed you can´t complain about it. Also called Machiavellan diplomacy in some games.

[Tarrax]

Kref,

As for finding not-started games, the title of the game thread in the forum will usually say something like (recruiting) or (closed) or (awaiting pretenders) or (running). The ones that are currently open will say (recruiting). The others mean the game has enough players and started or about to start.

Welcome again.

[Louppatient]

Just a precision :
There may be other forums which may propose games, on the Llamaserver or elsewhere.

There's a french one for sure which hosts his game on Llamaserver, I don't know if there are others ...

[Tarrax]

I think we are having a good game so far. Since we passed turn 10, I wanted to ask everyone whether we should increase the host duration from once every 24 hours. Personally, I think it's still fine as it is and I always look forward to doing the next turn. :D However, if anyone thinks they need more time we can increase it.

[Svamptripp]

I think we have a good pace and I'd like to continue with 24 hours turns.

[jmb]

I think we are having a good game so far. Since we passed turn 10, I wanted to ask everyone whether we should increase the host duration from once every 24 hours. Personally, I think it's still fine as it is and I always look forward to doing the next turn. :D However, if anyone thinks they need more time we can increase it.

I'm quite all right with 24 hours for now, however I would like to request a small delay: I've just sent my turn #13, but I won't be home on Sunday, so I may be late for next turn (depending on what time everyone submits turn #13). Would it be possible to make sure that turn #14 doesn't host before 24:00GMT on Sunday? Thanks.

[sansanjuan]

All,
Of the six MP games I've played, this is the best paced thus far. I'm enjoying playing Ulm despite a couple big blunders already:doh:. Good luck all.
-ssj

[Tarrax]

Hosting postponed 7 hours by jmb's request.

Hosting postponed for Tarrax by 7 hours. The game will now host at 00:45 GMT on Monday November 9th.

[Fantomen]

I´ve sent in the current turn, but I would need a delay until monday on the next one if that´s okay.

[jmb]

Gah! I almost missed the turn. I sent it with plenty of time to the wrong address :( And I almost missed the reminder...

[Tarrax]

Hosting postponed for Tarrax by 6 hours. The game will now host at 00:34 GMT on Monday November 16th.

[Louppatient]

I am going AI this turn : my capital has fallen, my army totals less than twenty hoburg militia and a handful of hoburg priest, and I'm down to only a very small number of provinces ... Guess it won't matter much now :)

Good luck for the end of game :)

[Tarrax]

Ah sad to hear. Thanks for playing. Hope to see you in Tarrax 2! :)

[sansanjuan]

I am going AI this turn : my capital has fallen, my army totals less than twenty hoburg militia and a handful of hoburg priest, and I'm down to only a very small number of provinces ... Guess it won't matter much now :)

Good luck for the end of game :)

Loup,
Good playing with you. See you in another soon,
-ssj

[sansanjuan]

Can we go to 48 hour turns?..
ssj

[Tarrax]

I'll postpone this turn 24 hours and see what people say before changing it on everybody. I understand you have a lot of provinces. :)

[sansanjuan]

I'll postpone this turn 24 hours and see what people say before changing it on everybody. I understand you have a lot of provinces. :)

I started another game too. Bit off a bit too much. Thanks for the postponement. I may get a turn in tonight. I do love the pace. Rare (and here I am saying "uncle!")

-ssj

[sansanjuan]

Got my turn in tonight but tomorrow night is iffy. Could we add 6 hrs to the turn?
-ssj

[Tarrax]

I added 24 hours to this turn as well. Let me know if you need more time.

By the way, for those who are in United States, would you like a break during Thanksgiving week/weekend? I don't need to but I'm just asking to see if there's a need. Let me know your status.

[sansanjuan]

I added 24 hours to this turn as well. Let me know if you need more time.

By the way, for those who are in United States, would you like a break during Thanksgiving week/weekend? I don't need to but I'm just asking to see if there's a need. Let me know your status.

Tx,
Tnx.

I should be good for the Holidays though 30 hrs might be better than 24 to insure a decent midnight window.
-ssj

[Tarrax]

OK, well I am changing the host time to every 30 hours.

[Tarrax]

Llamaserver seems to be having problems today. So it may not be showing your turn if you sent it. I'll keep an eye on it. Just for your information...

[Tarrax]

Llamaserver seems to be ok now.

[Fantomen]

Hear me, Steen, so called "god" of Mictlan, and shiver in fear! Long shall you regret the slaying of our innocent people. The fall of your capital was but the beginning of my vengance. The seas shall be retaken, and the rest of your empire will fall like the house of cards it resembles.

You, who draws your tainted power from weakly human virgins, bloodthirsty and cruel in your sickly excuse for divinity. You, whose physical body now lies in a pool of its own blood like a beggar by the fallen gates. You, who thought of my people, the proud descendants of earths own blood, that it would fall back to the lowliest of human savages.

I sought no war, yet my rage is terrible once awakened. I swear by the Seal, not only to destroy your fickle body, but to erase the very memory of your existance and free your people from your degenerate influence.

I swear by the Seal, and let this curse be the seal of your damnation.

Duracell, God of Agartha.

[Tarrax]

Wow, sounds like somebody's upset. :) It's a very poetic rant though.

[sansanjuan]

Hear me, Steen, so called "god" of Mictlan, and shiver in fear! Long shall you regret the slaying of our innocent people. The fall of your capital was but the beginning of my vengance. The seas shall be retaken, and the rest of your empire will fall like the house of cards it resembles.

You, who draws your tainted power from weakly human virgins, bloodthirsty and cruel in your sickly excuse for divinity. You, whose physical body now lies in a pool of its own blood like a beggar by the fallen gates. You, who thought of my people, the proud descendants of earths own blood, that it would fall back to the lowliest of human savages.

I sought no war, yet my rage is terrible once awakened. I swear by the Seal, not only to destroy your fickle body, but to erase the very memory of your existance and free your people from your degenerate influence.

I swear by the Seal, and let this curse be the seal of your damnation.

Duracell, God of Agartha.

Very nice.
-ssj

[Svamptripp]

Llamaserver doesn't seem to accept anything from me, not even in my other games. Perhaps it's down. If it doesn't accept it now I must kindly ask for a 12 hour delay.

[Tarrax]

Turn postponed 12 hours.

[Svamptripp]

Thanks...seems like it started to work now. Turn sent in.

[Tarrax]

It looks like Agartha staled. It was Thanksgiving day here in US but since no one asked for an extension, I left the turn as it is. Fantomen, would you like a roll back?

[Svamptripp]

It looks like Agartha staled. It was Thanksgiving day here in US but since no one asked for an extension, I left the turn as it is. Fantomen, would you like a roll back?

Staling is no fun for anyone and I wholeheartily support to rollback if Fantomen wants that.

[Fantomen]

Yes I would like a rollback if it is ok, I thought I had one more day for some reason.

[jmb]

It looks like Agartha staled. It was Thanksgiving day here in US but since no one asked for an extension, I left the turn as it is. Fantomen, would you like a roll back?

Staling is no fun for anyone and I wholeheartily support to rollback if Fantomen wants that.

I have no problem with a rollback either.

[sansanjuan]

It looks like Agartha staled. It was Thanksgiving day here in US but since no one asked for an extension, I left the turn as it is. Fantomen, would you like a roll back?

Ulm is fine with a rollback.

We would then resubmit the last turn? I'll have to see if I can make even bigger tactical blunders this time! :ouch: !

-ssj

[Tarrax]

Ok then I see that there is no problem for the players with a rollback in general. I am rolling back to the last turn. I have never done this before but I would assume we would need to re-submit last turn.

[Tarrax]

The game is rolled back. Please read the info below on the llamaserver about rollbacks. It looks like we need to delete the existing 2h files first:

Tarrax: Roll back to previous turn

This will cause the game to return to the previous turn.

Note that I generally recommend not doing this. The main reason for this is the fact that players have already seen the current turn, and so they know what would happen given the set of moves they used last time. Hence, consciously or not, they are very likely to use this information to change their actions next time they submit a turn. Even assuming none of the players' actions are affected, there will always be a suspicion in the mind of the other players if battles turn out significantly differently. Therefore just in the interest of having the game feel completely fair, I think rollbacks are a bad idea.

A further reason is a difficulty with game file confusion. Imagine turn 10 has just come out, and someone starts to play the turn. Then the game is rolled back to turn 9, and processed again to make a new turn 10. Unless players delete the 2h file they produced from the original turn 10, Dominions will not know to ignore it and may get seriously confused. This can cause a lot of madness, e.g. soldiers becoming commanders and gaining magic paths, and so on. So if you do do a rollback, make sure to remind players to delete their 2h files.

Having said that, there are situations where rollbacks are called for, which is why I've included the option here.

Read this next bit carefully. I seem to be having difficulties explaining it coherently:

Note that once the game is rolled back, it will appear that the game is waiting for 2h files from all players. However, the 2h files from last time the turn was played will in fact be there, and will be used if the game hosts without them being overwritten. This can be useful; often, a game is rehosted in order for only one or two players to retake their turns, while everyone else is expected to make no changes. The game admin can therefore wait till just those players have submitted, and then force hosting. None of the other players will stale (assuming they actually submitted a 2h file last time the turn was played).

I hope all that makes sense!

[Tarrax]

I just re-submitted my turn. We'll see what happens.

[sansanjuan]

I just re-submitted my turn. We'll see what happens.

New territory for me too. Interested to see if my hero reappears.
-ssj

[Kref]

I think previous h2 files should be used. Agartha may send her h2 file. Ulm said: "I'll have to see if I can make even bigger tactical blunders this time!"
At my opinion, ulm lost a castle, also a very important ulm's siege was broken. It weakend him very significantly on a sizeable part of world, so i don't tjink he made some good tactics that turn. It also means that I, and, perhaps, mavreni can suffer great penalties from the fact that ulm watched our actions and their consequences. I won't resent an h2 file for now, and if ulm manage to avoid my and mavreni's results on that turn, i'll consult with mavreni about abandonding this game. Changing ulm's orders may be fatal to mavreni's surviving, and i spent some resouces on mavreni to weaken ulm.

[Kref]

Oh, man, Tarrax, you are mavreni and admin of the game!
I still do not understand how you could make the decision to let Ulm redesign orders for that turn! Well, I'll stay in game, but I don't think it's a fair decision from you to give ulm critical opportunities against you. I planned that your would be able to disturbe ulm but I am not sure you would be capable to do it now.

[Kref]

Oh, man, Tarrax, you are mavreni and admin of the game!
I still do not understand how you could make the decision to let Ulm redesign orders for that turn! Well, I'll stay in game, but I don't think it's a fair decision from you to give ulm critical opportunities against you. I planned that your would be able to disturbe ulm but I am not sure you would be capable to do it now.

P.S. I'll also resent same 2h file.

[Kref]

Well, I've seen the reesults of that ridiculous rolling back. My decision is simple: i am leaving a right for myself to go to AI or redirect a rulership of my nation to anyone on your choice if that would happen once more. I've made and sent turns 33 and 34, it took some time and it's not intresting for me two play similar turns two times, especially when opponent knows what your are going to do, especially if opponent is stronger and so having more options in distributing forces.
In this particular situation the balance of forces was absolutly not so to give ulm the luxurity to remake unsuccsessful turn.

[sansanjuan]

Well, I've seen the reesults of that ridiculous rolling back. My decision is simple: i am leaving a right for myself to go to AI or redirect a rulership of my nation to anyone on your choice if that would happen once more. I've made and sent turns 33 and 34, it took some time and it's not intresting for me two play similar turns two times, especially when opponent knows what your are going to do, especially if opponent is stronger and so having more options in distributing forces.
In this particular situation the balance of forces was absolutly not so to give ulm the luxurity to remake unsuccsessful turn.

K,
I understand your frustration. In reality the rollback both helped and hurt Ulm. I did manage to keep the castle but lost two VERY good random events. You are playing very well and hold an enemy Cap to Ulm's none. I urge you to fight on. Regain momentum with an SC that Ulm will sing songs about (like the White Bull that could not be broken).
-ssj

[Tarrax]

Well I used the same 2h file for re-submitting and actually had not even loaded the 2h file of the stale turn to see what happened. I would have assumed that everybody did the same actions or re-submit the same file but of course I can't enforce that.

I know I am the host but I am just trying to run a fair and fun game and also allow for needs of all players in real time. That's why I offered the rollback. I didn't want to cause any frustration. So I am sorry Kref.

I hope you continue this game which has been fun to me even though I'm not in good position.

As for future rollbacks, it would be nice not to have them of course. So let's say no future rollbacks unless every player explicitly agrees to them here. If you need more time for a turn, let everyone know here and I'll be glad to postpone the turn. Thanks.

[Kref]

I suggest to leave more time for sending turn in future. It's unlikely the player doesn't want to make his turn, so probably something happend, for example there was lost connection to internet. I think it's possible to give for example 3 days to make a turn if suddenly player didn't sent his turn in time. As long as such things happen rarely, I think it's a better solution to wait for a while.
I am staying in the game.

[sansanjuan]

I suggest to leave more time for sending turn in future. It's unlikely the player doesn't want to make his turn, so probably something happend, for example there was lost connection to internet. I think it's possible to give for example 3 days to make a turn if suddenly player didn't sent his turn in time. As long as such things happen rarely, I think it's a better solution to wait for a while.
I am staying in the game.

I agree. May be wise to even turn off quick-host. This crew is very good about getting turns in.

-ssj

[sansanjuan]

I suggest to leave more time for sending turn in future. It's unlikely the player doesn't want to make his turn, so probably something happend, for example there was lost connection to internet. I think it's possible to give for example 3 days to make a turn if suddenly player didn't sent his turn in time. As long as such things happen rarely, I think it's a better solution to wait for a while.
I am staying in the game.

I agree. May be wise to even turn off quick-host. This crew is very good about getting turns in.

-ssj

:doh: Meant to say quickhost on with unlimited time limit.... which I think Kref was alluding to.
-ssj

[Fantomen]

Sorry for causing a delay, and thank you Tarrax for postponing.

I would like the timer set a bit longer like 48h now, what do others think?

[sansanjuan]

48 would be fine with me.
-ssj

[Tarrax]

48h is also fine with me but I'll wait to hear from everybody until I make the change. Meanwhile I'll keep postponing the turn 6-8 hours if it seems like someone is going to stale.

[jmb]

48h is also fine with me but I'll wait to hear from everybody until I make the change. Meanwhile I'll keep postponing the turn 6-8 hours if it seems like someone is going to stale.

I'm ok with 48h too.

[Fantomen]

From the look of my last turn, I'll be dead soon. Grinded to dust between Mictlan and Arcocephale. So please ignore my vote for longer turns.

[Tarrax]

So this is it for me. Ulm's wave of warriors was too much for my bull. My mages were scattered around the stream lands. Marverni is defeated!

[Kref]

Well, due to Ulm I do not have much provinces or forces to govern right now, so I generally would be able to make turns in 24 hours. I understand that it can take a much time to rule huge empires so I have nothing against 48 hours for one turn.
Also I stay on my suggestion not to make turns until everybody would sent 2h files.

[sansanjuan]

So this is it for me. Ulm's wave of warriors was too much for my bull. My mages were scattered around the stream lands. Marverni is defeated!

The White Bull will live in Legend.

Though Shunt the Pretender of Ulm is loath to admit it... Buyuk the White Bull could have wiped his hinder in toe to toe combat.

-ssj

[Fantomen]

Agartha yields to superior force, good work Arco and Mictlan!

Thanks to all for playing with me and special thanks to Tarrax for his most exellent admining.

[jmb]

I've just sent my turn 47. However, I will be away this week-end and beginning of next week. Would it be possible to delay hosting for turn 48 until Tuesday night, please?

Thanks,

[Tarrax]

Turn 48 postponed by 48 hours at jmb's request.

[jmb]

Turn 48 postponed by 48 hours at jmb's request.

Thanks, but it looks like it didn't work and the turn hosted anyway :(

[Tarrax]

Sorry to hear. That is odd. I postponed for 48 hours which had postponed the game until 09:00 GMT on Tuesday. Maybe you didn't mean GMT? It always helps to specify hour and timezone instead of day/night.

[jmb]

Sorry to hear. That is odd. I postponed for 48 hours which had postponed the game until 09:00 GMT on Tuesday. Maybe you didn't mean GMT? It always helps to specify hour and timezone instead of day/night.

Well, according to the times of the turns I received, turn 48 was sent on Saturday at 10 AM, then I staled for turns 49 and 50 which were sent on Sunday at 4 PM and on Tuesday at 10 AM respectively, so it seems something went wrong with the postponement :(

[Tarrax]

I only postponed turn 48 for 48 hours. You realize when a turn hosts, it resets the turn period to default (24 hours), right? Maybe that's what happened. Turn 48 hosted during the weekend (which means everybody including you must have sent files). I didn't do additional postponing for turn 49 since you said you'll be back on Tuesday for turn 48.

[sansanjuan]

Sorry to hear. That is odd. I postponed for 48 hours which had postponed the game until 09:00 GMT on Tuesday. Maybe you didn't mean GMT? It always helps to specify hour and timezone instead of day/night.

Well, according to the times of the turns I received, turn 48 was sent on Saturday at 10 AM, then I staled for turns 49 and 50 which were sent on Sunday at 4 PM and on Tuesday at 10 AM respectively, so it seems something went wrong with the postponement :(

JMB,
That is a bummer. I will let you retake 7 and 17 from AI Agartha (I was going to take them this turn). Not much but hope that takes some sting out.
-ssj

[jmb]

I only postponed turn 48 for 48 hours. You realize when a turn hosts, it resets the turn period to default (24 hours), right? Maybe that's what happened. Turn 48 hosted during the weekend (which means everybody including you must have sent files). I didn't do additional postponing for turn 49 since you said you'll be back on Tuesday for turn 48.

Yeah, that's probably what it was: a misunderstanding on which turn I wanted delayed :(

[jmb]

Sorry to hear. That is odd. I postponed for 48 hours which had postponed the game until 09:00 GMT on Tuesday. Maybe you didn't mean GMT? It always helps to specify hour and timezone instead of day/night.

Well, according to the times of the turns I received, turn 48 was sent on Saturday at 10 AM, then I staled for turns 49 and 50 which were sent on Sunday at 4 PM and on Tuesday at 10 AM respectively, so it seems something went wrong with the postponement :(

JMB,
That is a bummer. I will let you retake 7 and 17 from AI Agartha (I was going to take them this turn). Not much but hope that takes some sting out.
-ssj

Thanks, I appreciate it.

[sansanjuan]

Let it be said the giants of Fomoria fought as living legends, standing fast to the last giant. Ulm's nose was bloodied repeatedly by a handful of mages that would not yield a eyelash defending their capital. There became a sense of delicious frustration as repeated castle stormings were turned back by clever tactics. Attrition finally swung the campaign after many failed breach attempts. Then, against all odds, a lone Fomorian scout captured a remote territory single handedly the turn the capital fell. The scout defeated an Ulm commander, swordsman and archer with viscious skill. His name is engraved next to Ulm's own heros in the Capital Hall of Heroes.

-Entri
Scribe of Shunt

[Kref]

Congratulations for Ulm!
Fighting his forces gave me valuable experience in general and in Fomorian strategies.
It would be intresting to see the result of this game )

[Stagger Lee]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=41304&page=18

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=44537

Svamptripp was r'lyeh. It looks like he's about to stale his fifth consecutive turn here. If you have any info PM Quitti. If you need a sub, post for one. I might be interested after Christmas, but I can't add another game right now.

Thought you guys should know.

[sansanjuan]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=41304&page=18

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=44537

Svamptripp was r'lyeh. It looks like he's about to stale his fifth consecutive turn here. If you have any info PM Quitti. If you need a sub, post for one. I might be interested after Christmas, but I can't add another game right now.

Thought you guys should know.

He's right. Mictlan needs a sub. Perhaos even Kref or Tarrax. Going against a blood nation (eventually) will be very very nasty...
-ssj

[jmb]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=41304&page=18

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=44537

Svamptripp was r'lyeh. It looks like he's about to stale his fifth consecutive turn here. If you have any info PM Quitti. If you need a sub, post for one. I might be interested after Christmas, but I can't add another game right now.

Thought you guys should know.

He's right. Mictlan needs a sub. Perhaos even Kref or Tarrax. Going against a blood nation (eventually) will be very very nasty...
-ssj

I think we should pause the game until we hear from Svamptripp or find a sub for Mictlan. Otherwise, we might as well declare the game to be over with Ulm as the winner, since I certainly can't win at this point...

[Tarrax]

I postponed the turn for 7 days (I will keep postponing until we find a sub). I also changed the title of this thread to show we are looking for a sub. We'll see how it goes.

[Hurmio]

Hello,

i see that you are looking for a sub. I'm up for that. I'm sure i count as a newbie, since i've mostly played dom1 a few years back. I recently got interested again and bought the dom3. I've played some single player games and now i'd like to try some multiplayer ones.

[sansanjuan]

Hello,

i see that you are looking for a sub. I'm up for that. I'm sure i count as a newbie, since i've mostly played dom1 a few years back. I recently got interested again and bought the dom3. I've played some single player games and now i'd like to try some multiplayer ones.

Hurmio,
Welcome back to the fold.
-ssj

[Tarrax]

Hurmio,

Please PM me your e-mail address so I can add you to the game.

[Kref]

I also won't refuse to try to punch Ulm as Mictlan )
I'll sent my email to tarrax in case if Hurnio won't start to play Mictlan for some reasons.

[Tarrax]

Hurmio,

Welcome to the game. I changed Mictlan's e-mail address to yours. Request a turn resend from the game page to get the turn: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Tarrax

Kref,

If we need a sub again, you'll be the first.

[Tarrax]

I PM'd Svamptripp and asked for his game password. I haven't received a reply yet. I'll let you know as soon as I receive a reply but I'm not sure what to do if he doesn't reply.

[sansanjuan]

I PM'd Svamptripp and asked for his game password. I haven't received a reply yet. I'll let you know as soon as I receive a reply but I'm not sure what to do if he doesn't reply.

T,
You may want to pose that question on the main thread. I'm sure it has happened before.
-ssj

[Tarrax]

Current status:

I sent the game password to Hurmio but he said it doesn't work. I'll try to contact lch.

[Tarrax]

Hurmio was able to sub for Svamptripp so we are back to normal schedule now. I'll postpone the turn 24 hours just in case.

[Hurmio]

Hi,

would it be possible to delay today's hosting? I won't be able to play my turn in time, because of the Epiphany. A 24h delay would be great, if possible.

[Hurmio]

Nevermind,

i managed to play the turn in time.

[Hurmio]

Nasty Tartarians, we hates them!

Anyway, i think i need more time to play the turns. Is it possible to swich to 48h hosting cycle or skip the friday and saturday hostings? Ofcourse, if you guys oppose this, i can manage the turns as they come. I'd just like to have some more time for them.

Hurmio

[sansanjuan]

Nasty Tartarians, we hates them!

Anyway, i think i need more time to play the turns. Is it possible to swich to 48h hosting cycle or skip the friday and saturday hostings? Ofcourse, if you guys oppose this, i can manage the turns as they come. I'd just like to have some more time for them.

Hurmio

H,
I copy and second that... ;)
-ssj

[jmb]

Nasty Tartarians, we hates them!

Anyway, i think i need more time to play the turns. Is it possible to swich to 48h hosting cycle or skip the friday and saturday hostings? Ofcourse, if you guys oppose this, i can manage the turns as they come. I'd just like to have some more time for them.

Hurmio

H,
I copy and second that... ;)
-ssj
No problem from me.

[Tarrax]

Hosting interval changed to 48 hours.

[Hurmio]

Hosting interval changed to 48 hours.

Thanks!

Hurmio

[sansanjuan]

A long standing non-aggression pact was shattered as war mongering Arco killed Ulmish innocents without warning in the heart of Ulm's territory.

"They were beautiful ladies but they killed us all!.. um. Except for me! " said one shocked peasant who had approached the visiting mages in hopes of selling his stunted rutabagas.

"Dressed to kill 'dey was 'an dey did!" said a toothless fishmonger.

The attacks have energized a reluctant, peace loving Ulmish populace into war footing.

- Ulm Ministry of Propaganda

[jmb]

Ha! The well named "Ulm Ministry of Propaganda" doesn't lack for cheek calling themselves "reluctant" to go to war and "peace loving". We are sure the ghosts of the people of Marverni, Fomoria, and Sauromatia would have something to say about that, along with all the murdered innocents in Mictlan. Our noble leaders have decided that Arcoscephale could not stand by and let this blight overrun the free world and our glorious agents and troops have struck a major blow into the very heart of Ulm's conquests.

Freedom shall prevail!

- Archimedes, Minister of Information, for Thebaios

[Tarrax]

Ooo sounds like trouble brewing to me. :)

[jmb]

Well,I think we might as well call it a day and declare sansanjuan the winner. Unless either of you wants to draw it to the bitter end?

[sansanjuan]

Well,I think we might as well call it a day and declare sansanjuan the winner. Unless either of you wants to draw it to the bitter end?

I'm easy either way (though my 2 hr turns are driving the wife to distraction... ;) .
-ssj

[Hurmio]

Thanks for the fun! It was nice trying out a new nation in the end game. I got butchered pretty fast, but i don't mind.

[sansanjuan]

Thanks for the fun! It was nice trying out a new nation in the end game. I got butchered pretty fast, but i don't mind.

Hurmio,
You played very well from a tough starting position. I have new found respect for devils (as my dead tarts can attest to). Those Tzitzimtl (sp?) were absolutely astounding tart killers. I finally figured out I needed a ring of poison to get to poison 200 so after invulnerability my poison resist would still be 100%. I think the Tz devils were most effective when you had them attack on the first turn before tart's buffs had kicked in. If you had even one more I probably would still be fighting them. Odd that the game said "Ulm routs" and my Tart kept fighting.. May post on that. I shudder to think what a half dozen raiding parties with 5 or six Tzs in each would do.
-ssj

jmb : Per your earlier thread let me know if you want to play on. I understand if you want to keep going and try out some new tactics. That said my other game is getting "hot" and I wouldn't mind devoting more time to it.

[jmb]

jmb : Per your earlier thread let me know if you want to play on. I understand if you want to keep going and try out some new tactics. That said my other game is getting "hot" and I wouldn't mind devoting more time to it.

No, that's ok we can stop here. Congratulations and thanks everyone for a great game.

[Tarrax]

So it looks like we have a winner. Congratulations sansanjuan. I'd like to thank everyone who played. I hope to see everyone in Tarrax2! I might organize that soon.

[sansanjuan]

jmb : Per your earlier thread let me know if you want to play on. I understand if you want to keep going and try out some new tactics. That said my other game is getting "hot" and I wouldn't mind devoting more time to it.

No, that's ok we can stop here. Congratulations and thanks everyone for a great game.

JMB,

Your "Ladies" gave me fits :shock: . It would have been risky but I wonder if you would have risked single raiders and hit more territories in the initial surprise attack (the overall strategy was excellent in any event).

I found I had little chance raiding you as your flying PD smeared my stealthy test raiders before they could light up any buffs..

Did you have fog warriors researched? That is an excellent spell for the air queen and would have made the magma kids very very tough.



Great game all. I learned a lot from all of you. Let me know if anyone wants a turn file.

-ssj

[jmb]

Your "Ladies" gave me fits :shock: . It would have been risky but I wonder if you would have risked single raiders and hit more territories in the initial surprise attack
Well, I tried that against the AI and I found that losses were very high when using them singly. The best compromise appears to be to use them in pairs, which can take out most reasonable PD plus the odd roving commander and bodyguard.

(the overall strategy was excellent in any event).
Thanks :) Too little, too late unfortunately.


I found I had little chance raiding you as your flying PD smeared my stealthy test raiders before they could light up any buffs..

Did you have fog warriors researched? That is an excellent spell for the air queen and would have made the magma kids very very tough.

Actually, I had just about maxed out the research in everything but blood. OTOH, it was the first game where I really reached late game (not counting SP which is too easy by that point) so I'm not really familiar with the truly powerful spells and tactics.