Mooseknight: EA 12-nation game, Running

[vfb]

I'm starting a new game, Mooseknight (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Mooseknight):

Server: llamaserver (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=35160)
Era: EA
Mods: CBM 1.6 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=43949), Streamers & Standards (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=39989), Magic Site Mod (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=41189)
Map: World of Symmetry v0.4 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?p=721393)
Provinces: 231 land + 34 sea
Nations: 10 land, 2 sea
Settings: Default (HoF 15, renaming on)
Victory: 5 capitols (including your own, if you still hold it) held (not just sieged) for 3 consecutive months, or concession.
Turns: start at 27h, go to 52h from there and if needed, longer.

Special Rules: No trading or gifting of items, gems, gold, or blood slaves. You can make arrangements to gift/surrender/trade provinces. You can make arrangements to gift/surrender/trade units with enslave/charm. Don't abuse charm by using it to trade items. If you send a unit to be charmed, it cannot be wearing/wielding/holding ANY items. Can you wear a starshine cap to teleport somewhere and get charmed? No!

NAPs etc are allowed, but are non-binding. Backstabbing is encouraged.

Exploits: Anything goes, except for filling up the lab. But you can't do that anyway, since sending items is banned.

Open to: Anyone, if you do not recklessly abandon the games you join.

Players - Nations:

vfb (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=8915) - Oceania
Omnirizon@IRC - R'lyeh
Frozen Lama (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=17669) - Fomoria
Trumanator (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=10255) - Mictlan :rip:
Squirrelloid (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=23151) - Marverni :medal:
Quitti (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=10380) - Niefelheim
Ossa (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=9937) - Sauromatia
RadioGibbon (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=10230) - Ulm
mscfish (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=12042) - TC
Belac (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=15284) - Agartha
Debaser8 (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=32771) - Kailasa
FAJ (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/member.php?u=8297) - C'Tis

[Ossa]

I'd like to take the Sauros.

[Squirrelloid]

Nieflheim? Sauromatia? Does no one like to play the underdogs? I mean, you joined knowing Marveni was going to be in it - do you really need to beat them by lightyards rather than regular yards? =p

[vfb]

Respect to Squirrelloid for choosing an underdog! To be fair to Quitti, that was a random roll. I don't mind if anyone wants to change their picks, as long as no-one's already got it.

Oh, and please try out the map (v0.3) in case I've broken anything.

[RadioGibbon]

I'll take Ulm please.

[Alpine Joe]

An opportunity to play Lanka I simply can't resist!

[mscfish]

Tc,please.

I don't want to use Streamers & Standards.Is it ok if i upload my pretender without this mod?

Thanks!

[Belac]

Hi all!

Since this will be my first MP game and I expect to get handily squished anyway, I would like to make an odd choice: Agartha.

I need to download the relevant mods and map, so I shouldn't be ready for a couple days, if that's OK.

Thanks!

[Debaser8]

I have never played a Multiplayer game before, so would likely get runover and be a gift to any of my neighbors, but I'm interested in Kailasa if my presence wouldn't unbalance your game too much.

[Squirrelloid]

stick Lanka, Mictlan, Nieflheim, and Sauromatia in the same area. By the time they finish deciding which of them is going to win, the remaining nations might actually offer them a challenge =P

(All in jest, of course, but it would be nice to see fewer games with so many power nations)

[FAJ]

Sign me up for C'tis.

[namad]

Wow, I didn't realize this already had a thread!

This is probably the game you were talking about on irc, I told you to put me down as playing... but I wasn't very clear and I hadn't chosen a nation... and 12people requested to play before me so I guess I'm sitting this one out?

If someone else doesn't wanna play lemme know and then I'll pick a nation then I guess, otherwise have fun maybe I'll play in another game :)

[vfb]

Sorry namad! I forgot to leave a spot for you, and the game filled up really fast.

If someone decides to bow out, you get first dibs.


@Everyone: Mooseknight is up, please email your gods to the llamaserver (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=35160).

[Belac]

I will have a god up tonight or tomorrow night. I have the stats, just need to download the mods.

[Frozen Lama]

just a couple questions: exploits are ok. does that include copying bogus's orders? i don't care either way, but just clairifying.

and 2, this map has preplaced starts, but we will be randomizing who gets what right?

[rdonj]

Someone had better take a forest lord. You can't have a game called mooseknight with no moose!

[Squirrelloid]

Someone had better take a forest lord. You can't have a game called mooseknight with no moose!

Clearly we need some preset poptypes that include mooseknights.

Game winner is the person who assembles the largest army of mooseknights by turn 40 or 50?

[Frozen Lama]

deepwell and then troll kings court ftw!

[vfb]

just a couple questions: exploits are ok. does that include copying bogus's orders? i don't care either way, but just clairifying.

and 2, this map has preplaced starts, but we will be randomizing who gets what right?

Yes you can copy Bogus's orders. Or the Troll Archer's, which is probably what you really want. :)

The only valid start locations are the 12 corner provinces. Nation placement is random.

[Belac]

Help! How do I install the CBM (and other mods) on a mac?

Also, the map crashes my Dominions game when I load it.

[vfb]

Belac, extract the mod files, including sub-folders, into your dom3 mods folder.

You probably only downloaded the .map file, you also need the .tga from the 1st post in the map thread. Please install that too.

[Belac]

I managed to fix that, now I just need to figure out where to find the pretenders file to upload.

[Omnirizon]

belac, it is in the newlords folder, which is stored with your other game folders

[Omnirizon]

I'm almost certain that 155 and 172 are supposed to be connected (correct me if I'm wrong). I made the adjustment attached it to this post.

Also, do replace both the tga and map files with these I've attached. Minor misspellings and blemishes (symmetry spelled symetry, map still referencing a file called 'symetry2' from when it was v2, etc) bug the crap out of me. So now map references worldofsymmetry (since the tga version has never changed).

[rdonj]

Someone had better take a forest lord. You can't have a game called mooseknight with no moose!

Clearly we need some preset poptypes that include mooseknights.

Game winner is the person who assembles the largest army of mooseknights by turn 40 or 50?

I agree heartily :)

[vfb]

Thanks Omni. Sorry, can't see the map right now, but I will try to replace the map in the game with your fix tonight. I think I'll manage to get that done before everyone's god is in.

Edit: Frozen sent me a pic, and I see the missing connection. I've replaced the map in the game. Only diff is, I renamed the map "0.4" on the llamaserver, to make sure the new map got used.

[mscfish]

I don't like the mod Streamers & Standards personaly.Is it ok if i upload my pretender without this mod?

Thanks!

[FAJ]

So what map are we using exactly? The one that Omni posted? Do I need to delete/replace anything?

[Trumanator]

I don't like the mod Streamers & Standards personaly.Is it ok if i upload my pretender without this mod?

Thanks!

It should be fine I would think. If it ends up where it makes you do so, I believe there's some workaround for it, but you might have to ask around.

[Squirrelloid]

Ok, in all seriousness no game should include Streamers and Standards.

Here's the skinny - Streamers and Standards is merely cosmetic, so it doesn't matter if one person is using the *content* of the mod and another isn't. However, if the mod is included in the game, the game will look for the .dm file. So you can remove the effect of the mod by deleting most of the content (basically, all the actual commands that change flags - leave the heading stuff at top). However, at the same time, someone could *always* play with streamers and standards by appending the functional text at the end of another included mod.

The reason why the second is preferable (people who want to use it include it at the end of another mod) is because occasionally Streamers and Standards is actually useful. Ie, if you end up playing a multi-era game. At which point you now have to overwrite your blank streamers and standards mod to use it, and if you're playing in that game and a single-age game with S+S you now have to use S+S for both of them, or delete/re-install *every turn*.

So its much more convenient if the people who actively want to use S+S just append it to the end of CBM. Then they can always look at those ugly flag graphics, and those of us who don't want our graphics changed for regular games don't need to have a dummy copy of S+S lying around.

[Belac]

OK, I uploaded my god. Good luck to everyone, and especially me (I expect to need it)!

[Trumanator]

Hopefully mine will be in later tonight. Right now its essay time.

[Omnirizon]

I'm in the same boat as Trumanator

[vfb]

I don't like the mod Streamers & Standards personaly.Is it ok if i upload my pretender without this mod?

Thanks!

Yes, that will work fine. You need to make an empty mod with the same name, but it sounds like you know that already.

[vfb]

So what map are we using exactly? The one that Omni posted? Do I need to delete/replace anything?

Yes, Omni's map. If you want to try out some scenarios first, just unpack everything in his post (the .map and .tga) into your maps dir.

Omni didn't rename the map from v0.3 to v.04 when he added the missing province link. I did that on llamaserver to be sure I used the correct one, and that's the only additional change I made. You don't need to make that change locally.

[Trumanator]

Sent.

[vfb]

Great! We are just waiting for R'lyeh/Marverni/Sauromatia/TC.

[vfb]

And we are off to the Moose race.

Have fun, everyone!

[Belac]

What are the communication rules? Are we allowed to talk about the game in this thread? Send private messages/emails to other players? Only use in-game messages?

[Quitti]

vfb, I'm betting my astral moose runs faster than yours!

[Trumanator]

What are the communication rules? Are we allowed to talk about the game in this thread? Send private messages/emails to other players? Only use in-game messages?

Normal I should think since nothings specifically mentioned. Meaning that you can do whatever you want to get in touch with people. PMs are generally preferable, as they provide a history to consult.

[vfb]

What are the communication rules? Are we allowed to talk about the game in this thread? Send private messages/emails to other players? Only use in-game messages?

Normal I should think since nothings specifically mentioned. Meaning that you can do whatever you want to get in touch with people. PMs are generally preferable, as they provide a history to consult.

Thanks, that's right Trumanator, no limits on communication. (You are also free to tell lies, and break your word, etc).

But everymoose please just remember, no trading! (As in the OP).

@Quitti: Octomoos takes a while to build up the momentum. Astral meese are known to have higher accelleration because of the low mass.

[Belac]

Wi nøt trei a høliday in Niefelheim this yer?

See the løveli lakes

The wonderful telepørt system

And mani interesting furry animals

Including the majestic møøseknight

[Quitti]

@Quitti: Octomoos takes a while to build up the momentum. Astral meese are known to have higher accelleration because of the low mass.

I believe your Octomoose will lose simply by having too much legs to keep track of - meanwhile my endothermic astral moose will have long run the track, covering it in ice!

[vfb]

Oh! How embarrassing. I seem to have let 13 nations into a 12-nation game. I noticed when Alpine Joe posted in another game thread, that he broke is PC, and needed an extension. I thought he needed one here too, but OMG NO LANKA!

I'm very sorry about that, Alpine Joe! I guess your PC broke while we were getting our gods in. I'll delete Lanka from the OP.

[Omnirizon]

[QUOTE=Trumanator;721607]
Thanks, that's right Trumanator, no limits on communication. (You are also free to tell lies, and break your word, etc).


lies make baby Jesus cry

[vfb]

Thanks, that's right Trumanator, no limits on communication. (You are also free to tell lies, and break your word, etc).


lies make baby Jesus cry

No no no! That's not it at all. I think it's actually, "Every time you tell a lie, Octomoos eats a Baby Jesus."

[Squirrelloid]

Feed the octomoose!

[Quitti]

"Every time you tell a lie, Octomoos eats a Baby Jesus."

I believe the word you are looking for is "devours", not "eats".

[vfb]

Us Tritons are just not very poetic, that's all. Thanks for the correction.

[Belac]

Ack! Due to my unfamiliarity with the CBM, I think I screwed up on pretender design. Not crushingly, but there was an obviously superior choice to the one I made. Oh well, maybe next time.

[vfb]

Shhh! Don't tell anyone, or they will all take it as a sign a of weakness, and attack.

Since the whole point of CBM is to balance things out, and make everything somewhat worthwhile, you may not be as bad off as you think.

[Frozen Lama]

It appears that at the moment it is the Chinese meese that are losing the race to get their turns in. :)

[Quitti]

It's the hats, they have too much of a wind resistance to counter. And the track is probably frozen due my endothermic moose.

[Belac]

Shhh! Don't tell anyone, or they will all take it as a sign a of weakness, and attack.

Since the whole point of CBM is to balance things out, and make everything somewhat worthwhile, you may not be as bad off as you think.

Yeah, it's a totally minor thing and doesn't make me weak, I just missed a clear but marginal improvement.

[Trumanator]

Lol run into some unexpected indies Sauro?

[vfb]

ADMIN UPDATE:

TC's mscfish has PM'ed me and explained that his PC is out of commission, and he has had to play on his cousin's PC. I will be watching the game, and if it looks like TC is going to stale, I will extend the time. He told me he'll be getting a new PC on Dec 22nd. (But hopefully he'll still be able to do his turns intermittently.)

So all you other guys, be careful! Don't let any wandering meese trample all over your computer, or you'll be in the same boat. With the moose, and a broken PC.

[Squirrelloid]

Just in case it becomes relevant, I will be gone this weekend. If the next turn could not host before late monday (US central time) I would appreciate it. Given mscfish's problems, this might not be an issue.

[vfb]

I can't delay hosting until Ulm submits, because once he does that, the timer resets. But once his turn is in, I'll add an additional couple of days to the timer.

[vfb]

Yay, hosted! Game timer has been increased +48h. I will monitor to make sure no-one stales.

A note to the newer people here: this map has ports, and it's hard to tell where they go. Please turn on "Map Filters"->"Neighbors", if you haven't already done so.

[Debaser8]

We have had an unfortunate encounter with Mictlan. Hopefuly it was just an accident and further dialog with them will asure us of their peaceable intention towards our benign monkey kingdom.

[Belac]

Due to unexpected emergency evening plans, I may be 1-3 hours late. If hosting could be delayed til then, I would appreciate it. It won't be more than that, I just need to get home to my internet and submit the file.

[vfb]

I've added 4 hours. Please tell me if you need any more time, thanks!

[vfb]

We have had an unfortunate encounter with Mictlan. Hopefuly it was just an accident and further dialog with them will asure us of their peaceable intention towards our benign monkey kingdom.

Admin note: There are no restrictions on PMs in this game. You should probably turn messaging on in your forums profile ("User CP" from the black menu bar, then "Edit Options" on the left, then check the "Enable Private Messaging" checkbox). Please don't put yourself at a disadvantage by using in-game messaging only.

[Belac]

Thanks, VFB. I turned out not to need it.

[Squirrelloid]

Are we going to be taking a break over the christmas holidays? Quickhost only for the 23-27 or something like that?

[vfb]

I've set the hosting interval to 5 days (120h) over the holidays. If it looks like anyone's going to stale, I'll postpone the hosting. Quickhost will still be on.

[Belac]

I've set the hosting interval to 5 days (120h) over the holidays. If it looks like anyone's going to stale, I'll postpone the hosting. Quickhost will still be on.

How long will this last? From the 30th to the 4th I will have limited internet access (I'll be able to get turns in intermittently, but probably only every couple days).

[Quitti]

I'll also be gone from 31th to 3rd or so. Can't submit any turns in that time period.

[Debaser8]

Mictlan has invaded and I am afraid they will soon overpower us. Our monkeys will attempt to sell their lives dearly, but we do not have high hopes for success without some outside intervention.

[vfb]

A cry for help! Quick, someone cast Global Warming, so I can swim over to Mictlan.

[Trumanator]

Says the nation with as many provs as me. More easily defended provs I might add.

[vfb]

Exactly! Once I cast Global Warming, I'll be able to defend ALL the provinces. And then you'll be in trouble.

P.S. Everyone, please don't forget (like I almost did :P), no sending Gems & stuff! So, if you're gonna die: Spend 'em, don't send 'em.

[Belac]

On the eve of the anniversary of the Awakening of one of the greatest of our meta-world's Pretenders, we of Agartha would like to wish all our worthy opponents good luck and fine feasting. Except for a few independent levies, we ourselves will be enjoying our not needing to eat at all.

[Quitti]

The Great God of Niefelheim wishes everyone to sit into their mead halls and have a great fun time, be it with food, women, proper beer or all of them!

May cold spread into your hearts, and enjoy the holidays ;)

[vfb]

Admin: I've postponed hosting by 12 hours, since Kailasa is still pending.

Hopefully he will get his turn in before Quitti goes on his holiday.

[Belac]

I won't be able to submit turns with any reliability after 2pm tomorrow until the 5th. I might be good for 1 or 2 during that time, but I might not get any.

[Debaser8]

Sorry about the delay.

[vfb]

Admin: I think we can all get a turn in before New Year's. Then I'll change the timer by +120h again for New Years, and watch to make sure no-one stales. It'll still be on quickhost the whole time.

[Trumanator]

Very cute squirreloid. If you're really intent on delaying Kailasa's fate, I suppose you won't object to the acceleration of your own.

[vfb]

Admin: I have reset the hosting interval to 48 hours. The hosting interval has not changed for the current turn, to allow everyone to get back into the swing of things.

[Frozen Lama]

The Evil Empire of Sauromatia has conquered the peaceful natives of the Isle of Eternia! This is an act of war against all the peoples of the world!

Upon consulting with other wise peoples, Formoria also came to realize that Eternia is the home of none other than He-Man; himself slaughtered by the sauromatian barbarians. He-Man must be avenged!

[vfb]

Oh no! Sauromatia must not have seen the warning signs on the island!


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[Squirrelloid]

On behalf of the nation of TC (who is likely far too busy to comment on such matters), the nation of Marveni would like to make sure that the peoples of the world do not confuse He-Man, a mighty champion and sworn enemy of Skeletor (a witch king if there ever was one!) with He Man, a mildly notable warrior from TC's Three Kingdoms period.

This has been a PDA (Public Druid Announcement).

[Frozen Lama]

Mictlan is going to need a day or two extension since his comp went down. unless we can find a sub to do a turn for him

[vfb]

I'll be fine with holding off a day or two. Any objections?

[FAJ]

I am fine with it.

Depending on the schedule, I may stale this weekend. The last time I can play a turn is 3pm EST on friday, and then I come back Sunday late evening. I don't think I will need the extension, but I don't mind staling THAT much. I am not at war ( yet D: )

[Quitti]

I don't mind a slight pause. Though the game was just getting interesting :)

[Belac]

Agartha does not mind delays. We are slow but steady and will prevail in the end, regardless of the rate of progress.

[vfb]

I talked with Frozen on IRC, and he thinks Trumanator will soon have his PC fixed. Rather than search for a sub for 1 turn, I've added +1 day to the timer. Mictlan is in the middle of a war so I'd prefer not to stale him. The delay will also push hosting out for the next turn. I'll add a little bit of additional time then for FAJ if the game looks like it will host before he's back.

[vfb]

I've delayed the timer 24 hours to give C'tis time to get his turn in after returning Sun night EST.

[vfb]

I've been unable to get a hold of TC. With one hour left until hosting, I'm delaying the current turn, since at the moment he's singlehandedly holding off the giant hordes.

[mscfish]

Thank you very much,vfb!

Thank you for your hard work!

[vfb]

Thanks for the thanks. :)

I'll be away from the intertubes for about 6 hours starting sometime around now. With 4 hours to go, being unable to contact 2 of the 3 players whose turns are pending, I'm postponing hosting again.

[Squirrelloid]

My turn file is no longer pending =p

Now i just need to figure out what I'm doing with my VC3 turn... ug...

[Belac]

Sorry, I was traveling all day. My availability is always a little wacky on the weekends.

[Belac]

Sauromatia,
I should have figured you'd put lots of PD in Stone Heavens. Oh well, that army was pretty much all chaff anyway.

By the way, We of Agartha would like to alert our rivals to the fact that the Sauromatian army on the Isle of Eternia is cut off, and anyone wishing to contest control of the Isle will find only the army that is there and some of the Sauromatian *&^$@* PD.

[Squirrelloid]

The Druids of Marveni, having seen a new star in the heavens over Mictlan, dull red and foreboding, knew that the day was soon at hand when the unchecked aggression of Mictlan's animalistic warriors would be ended. Then their god sent them a sign - mighty boars ravaged the province, and were unchecked in their depradations. After a brave defense of Vongar from an attacking Mictlan army, a series of daring raids quickly brought Mictlan to its knees. And lo, the once oppressed monkeys of Kailasa rose up against their oppressors, and unexpected allies came from the deeps to conquer the coast. Thus were the heathens of Mictlan pacified, and soon their last strongholds will be cracked and their leaders 're-educated' in the new faith.

[Trumanator]

Well, this game taught me a fair bit about how to NOT play a bless nation. My usual practice is to fight an epic capital defense, but Mictlan is not a good nation for that, and I am also trying to reduce my game load. Exceptional job by Marverni and Kailasa, and everyone should look out for squirrel!

[vfb]

Thanks for playing, Trumanator! Sounds like Mictlan will now be run by the robots, is that right? (At least until the squirrels and monkeys take over.)

[vfb]

Hosting postponed for 12 hours for TC.

[Squirrelloid]

'Look out for [Marveni]'... how often do you hear that?

[vfb]

12 more hours for TC.

[vfb]

Where we had expected to find only one-eyed giants (no, not Fomoria! The other guys.), the forces of Oceania were met with a wave of undead skeletons. Chaos unfolded as our mighty army of ice drakes unloaded blast after blast of cold, on the skeletons engaged with out brave wave warriors. Oh wait, that's not such a good idea, is it. Bad ice drakes, bad!

Oceania declares war on Sauromatia. Clearly this dangerous skeleton menace must be contained!

-- Mermoos

P.S. Look out for Marverni!

[Squirrelloid]

Sheesh.

"Look out for Marveni"? What in the Moose kind of messed up game is this where Marveni is garnering more attention than *Nieflheim*. Or Sauromatia? Or hell, just about anybody!

Mermoos, I thought we were friends and brothers in the Moose Lodge. Why do you do this to me?!?

-Moosehenge

P.S. The Orbital Moose-Controlled Laser is online.

[vfb]

Sauromatia? We just declared war on them!

Anyway, Brother Mermoos says, "You said it first!"

[Belac]

Agartha welcomes our Oceanian allies. Perhaps we can develop an Axis Of Traditionally Non-Powerhouse Nations (ATNPN) and dominate the map!

[FAJ]

C'tis believes in the fine art of mercenary and oppurtunism. In this Sauromatian war, we are looking to ally ourselves on one side or another.

Sauromatia has offered a generous gift. It may be enough to sway us to ally with our brothers-in-poison.

[Belac]

Agartha believes that We know what that generous gift was, and We would like to remind C'tis that there is a lot of Sauromatian territory out there, and that both sides can promise you some. Also, We would like to warn you that Sauromatian territory is prone to crop failure. Organic farming is not recommended.

[Quitti]

Niefelheim being touted as powerful nation?! We're even struggling with the current situation of keeping barbarians out of OUR lands, not to say anything about our neighbors! Preposterous. Endothermic Niefel Moose Chariot forces are currently patrolling our precious borders in vain hope of discouraging further insults and forces being sent at us.

[vfb]

C'tis believes in the fine art of mercenary and oppurtunism. In this Sauromatian war, we are looking to ally ourselves on one side or another.

Sauromatia has offered a generous gift. It may be enough to sway us to ally with our brothers-in-poison.

Hopefully this gift consists of a swath of Sauromatian provinces! (Because trading/gifts of anything except provinces is banned in the game, remember? :))

[Ink]

b-b-b-b-b-BUSTED!!!

[vfb]

I have heard through the grapevine that the nation of Sauromatia did indeed offer its own land in return for the mercenary services of the C'tis nation. So nothing actually did get busted.

[Frozen Lama]

OOH i like that idea. formoria is willing to get provinces as gifts :)

[FAJ]

Indeed, he offered me a few provinces in turn for not engaging him in what would be a 3v1 sauro-stomp.

No coincidence I am sure that the provinces would give me new neighbors, Oceania and Agartha!

[Belac]

Agartha has no wish to fight the Sauromancers, but We are always glad when someone takes provinces from our foes.

[vfb]

Current hosting has been delayed +12h for Nief.

[FAJ]

Can we delay hosting until monday?

I will be away for the weekend and will (as I suspect a few others may) be at a super-bowl gathering all day sunday.

[vfb]

Can we delay hosting until monday?

I will be away for the weekend and will (as I suspect a few others may) be at a super-bowl gathering all day sunday.

You mean after the game hosts? It looks like your turn is already in.

[vfb]

1st 24-hr Superbowl extension granted. If it looks like there will be stales, I'll postpone again.

[Ink]

sorry I'm always last guy in recent few turns. doing turn now, been busy at a conference this end of week.

[vfb]

I thought you were Superbowling or something, maybe.

So, hosting is now scheduled for Monday sometime somewhere in England. If this conflicts with Superbowls, which we don't actually get to watch over here, then I'll add another delay.

[vfb]

I attempted to add another 24h to the game. I sent my turn in, but there are reports of strangeness in Llamaserver land, and I didn't get a confirmation yet. Omni, if you could get you turn in before the current hosting schedule (18:10 GMT on Monday February 8th), then we won't have anything to worry about. Maybe!

Edit: Got my turn confirmation, and the hosting schedule is extended according to the web page:

Next turn due: 18:10 GMT on Tuesday February 9th

[Ink]

thanks for the graceful turn extension. I was superbowling Sunday, and had an early class today, I just got home but sent my turn in.

[Ink]

for once I'm not the last guy in.

hurray!!

[vfb]

Oceania declares war on the Space Druids! With the Earth Well up, they will be able to summon innumerable Moose Knights, so must be stopped now!

-- Mermoos

P.S. Any Monkey provinces in the way are gonna get invaded too.

[Squirrelloid]

Hey, don't be hating on my mooseknights.

But so be it. Prepare for the MFLB*

*Moose with Fricking Laser Beams

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Preparations commenced! We are erecting the MILF*

*Moose Interdiction Laser Forcefield

[Belac]

I will be unable to submit turns today and request that hosting hold off until tomorrow, if possible or necessary.

[vfb]

I've added 24 hours to the timer.

[Squirrelloid]

Fully geared mooseknights? I should just conceed now!

Where the heck did you pull a Baobhan Sidhe from anyway? This is the weirdest Oceanian invasion force I've ever seen!

[Debaser8]

I was going to say, nice mooseknights, but Marveni beat me to the punch. My markata will defend our holy land tooth and nail, rock and stick, poop in...well you get the picture.

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Hosting postponed at the request of Nief, +24h on the clock.

[Quitti]

My turn is in. Sorry to keep you all waiting :)

[Belac]

The three leaders of the Agarthan army sat at the mouth of the cave under Scraw Pointe. Inside the fortress, the Agarthan wounded were being tended to. Outside, human subjects sprinkled oil over high stacks of mangled horses, women, and a few badly burnt hydras, all piled between a huge array of lifelike statues of archers.

"I almost had her," said Usur'amassu. "She was on fire and I was ten feet away. If she hadn't come down in the middle of our archers--"

Melqart, towering just as high as his fellow despite his bandaged leg, interjected. "And be turned to stone like those archers, or have her slaughter the Earth Readers?"

"We had lead shields, we would have been fine," Usur'amassu replied. "Besides, it was the arrows that injured you."

At this, the immense Oracle sitting beside the two Ancient Lords rose slowly to his feet. "I am the commander of the army," Lugal’eudmelambi’nirgal declared, "and our victory was great. We have beaten their raiders, broken their siege, and our mages ever learn new ways to destroy their harvests. Each of you will have other chances to kill the Gorgon. But the army must march, and we need a new batch of human archers. More of the foe is surely marching from the south."

The three lords watched the sun set over the battlefield, the bloodiest yet of the four great battles of the war and the second Agarthan victory.

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Those dirty druids! Using bioligical weapons! Now all our meese have hoof-and-mouth or whatever.

[Squirrelloid]

Blame not the artifice of the druids, who have no power over disease. It is instead an omen visited upon you for your unjust warmongering against the moose-blessed Marveni.

[vfb]

Oceania refuses to believe that any other nation would be foolish enough to hinder our efforts to stop the Marverni juggernaut.

[vfb]

Hosting postponed for C'tis.

[FAJ]

My bad, Sorry yall! I never got the turn file (although I did get 2 reminders that it was about to host!)

I asked for a resend, which worked, so we should be all on track now.

[Frozen Lama]

Formoria announces the unveiling of its newest branch of the military- the Moosewaffa! airstrikes are now occuring in various parts of the druid lands after word was leaked that they were sacrificing virgins and had enslaved the monkey people.

[Squirrelloid]

This is a cry for help. We have been unjustly attacked by Fomoria, whom we name oathbreaker, for they swore a non-aggression pact with the druids and sealed it with their very lifeblood, yet no warning did we have before their monstrous giants dropped out of the sky upon us. All nations with whom Fomoria has also sworn such a sacred oath should consider their words worthless, and their agreements void. Honor is no currency to such as they.

So foul and vicious is this act that even Oceania should consider swearing peace with us, since they will gain almost nothing should our war proceed - Fomoria having already cut them off from most of our lands.

Further, we urge all the lands to attack Fomoria, whose power and prestige is poised to grow without bounds. Would you rather have Marveni with the lands of two nations, or Fomoria with the lands of three and the ability to field awesome Fomorian Kings in battle in addition to whatever they might summon.

(Marveni will clean its own house of the Fomorian menace if given the chance, but we urge Fomoria's other neighbors to make war upon its homelands so that we might breathe if but a moment.)

And the Fomorian propaganda is a lie - no monkeys have been enslaved by the peace-loving druids. We came to the rescue of the monkeys against the vicious Mictlan empire, and the monkeys do now flourish solely because of our actions.

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Oceania would love to meet with Marverni's diplomats and discuss terms of resolution for our current conflict. Unfortunately, all our embassies are currently under quarantine, due to multiple outbreaks of leprosy.

[Frozen Lama]

Yet another reason to hate druids! they spread lies! the only lifeblood that was spilled was the blood of beautiful virgins in horrid druid temples. Not a drop of formoria blood was spent in contact with the vile druids!

And if people of the world wonder about the justification of our war, see that even after the Moosewaffa has raided many druid lands, they still have the greatest gem income.

No monkeys enslaved they say? anyone with scouts can see that the druids have left the monkey nation no outlet for expansion. they are free, but only as druid underlings.

[Squirrelloid]

Yet another reason to hate druids! they spread lies! the only lifeblood that was spilled was the blood of beautiful virgins in horrid druid temples. Not a drop of formoria blood was spent in contact with the vile druids!

And if people of the world wonder about the justification of our war, see that even after the Moosewaffa has raided many druid lands, they still have the greatest gem income.

No monkeys enslaved they say? anyone with scouts can see that the druids have left the monkey nation no outlet for expansion. they are free, but only as druid underlings.

Fomoria mistakes us for Oceania, who took Kailasa's portal that connected them to the Isle of Eternia and somewhere else far from our shores. Verily, Kailasa had (and has - Oceania) a border with nations besides Marveni.

The druids have also spilt no virgin blood in our temples. Virgin blood was spilt, but only to contain the Mictlan menace, and our actions, while regrettable, were necessary, and that blood was spilt in the lab, not the temples. The virgins came unto our god and prostrated themselves before him, that they might help put an end to one menace. We celebrate their devotion and their sacrifice.

Finally, we most certainly swore to a NAP with the faithless giants of Fomoria in that neutral territory known as IRC. There may have been witnesses, as some business was conducted in public that day, and the lords of Rlyeh and possibly others were present.

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Hosting postponed 24h for Marverni (just in case).

[Squirrelloid]

Not necessary, but thanks.

[vfb]

Hey, did my Moose Knight die when you watched the battle? He's dead according to the results (probably got hit by a meteor), but when I watch the battle he never dies.

Also:

Yahoo communion members 7
Not enough vis for Relief

Oops! What the heck happened to Greg? Must've died of Leprosy already. :(

[Squirrelloid]

Hey, did my Moose Knight die when you watched the battle? He's dead according to the results (probably got hit by a meteor), but when I watch the battle he never dies.

Also:

Yahoo communion members 7
Not enough vis for Relief

Oops! What the heck happened to Greg? Must've died of Leprosy already. :(

Didn't get an opportunity to actually watch the combat yet, or even look at the new turn. I'll let you know when i do.

[Squirrelloid]

Your mooseknight survived in my replay too, so no idea.

Marveni is likely doomed at this point. In addition to the merciless raiding by Fomoria, they also succeeded in taking all my retreat routes from that combat, making that loss far more devastating than it should have been.

Well played vfb, I wish it were you benefitting from my likely demise. (Admittedly, if it weren't for Fomoria, I'd have far better prospects to keep fighting. But I can't deal with his raiders and your armies at the same time).

[Frozen Lama]

The giants of formoria would never seek to steal all the loot from the valient fishmen of Oceania. Formoria assures the world, and the lord of Oceania can attest to it, that formoria will not be stealing all the territory. expect a rapid rise of the oceanian empire.

The giants are an honorable people

[Trumanator]

Revenge is sweet.

[Squirrelloid]

The giants are an honorable people

Ha. NAP-breakers are hardly honorable.

[Belac]

That war sounds exciting. Meanwhile, in the Western Front over here in Agartha, the frontier's barely moved in a year and a half. Not counting what C'tis took in bribes, a total of 3 provinces have changed hands since the war began.

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Hosting postponed +14h for R'lyeh.

[Ink]

in response to Fomoria's dishonorabre actions, a day that will no doubt live in infamy, R'ryeh is invading. Fomoria must not be arrowed to ringer on any ronger.

the worrd is encouraged to take up the fight against this greatest of threats.

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Oceania will not stand by and see our honowable fwiends dispawaged! Pwepare to defend your waters!

-- Mermoos

[Ink]

we always welcome more potential slaves.

and some sea horse thingies too! that's great, one of the lobo guards got it in what little is left of its mind that it wants a pony.

[vfb]

Hosting postponed +12h for R'lyeh.

[mscfish]

Tc request 24 hours extension.Sorry about this.

[mscfish]

Tc request 24 hours extension.Sorry about this.

[vfb]

No problem, +24h added.

[Frozen Lama]

ouch. seven feebleminded mages in one turn. I hope ryleh has a lot of FQ's to heal them up

[Ink]

oh, did a few research mages of no consequence get feebleminded? we didn't notice with the hundreds of others we have.

how are your SCs faring so far? oh that's right, we have so many mages we are sending armies of nothing but mages to protect R'lyeh homeland. did that geared out giant even inflict one hp of damage on anything not part of the PD before it got raped by tentacles? I bet he just _wished_ he could of got slaughtered by slave trolls like that other one. ewwww. tentacles.

[vfb]

Postponed +6 hours for Nief.

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Postponed +12 hours, Kailasa's turn has gone missing.

[Ink]

may I get a 24 hr delay? alice is in theater's tonight, and I gotta go see it.

[vfb]

Added +24h for Alice.

[vfb]

I didn't get my warning email this turn, so I was going to add some time to the timer. But that seems to be a pretty frequent request lately, and we're almost at turn 50.

So, I'm adding +24h to the hosting schedule, it's now at 72h.

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Admin note: Omni is not on the forums anymore, if you need to do diplomacy with R'lyeh, please head over to IRC (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=33869).

[Trumanator]

Umm, you haven't noticed his new forum account trolling away?

[vfb]

Admin: Postponed +12h for Fomoria.

@Trum: Page up.

[Trumanator]

Err, oops. Forgive me for being behind the times. :(

[vfb]

Admin: after the next host, there will be a delay until Sunday. R'lyeh is making a trip to the void or something.

PS: Frozen has agreed to co-admin, on short notice prior to me taking off on a trip last weekend. Thanks Frozen! If you need delays or whatever and I'm unavailable, you can contact him too.

[vfb]

Admin: current turn hosting postponed +16h for those lazy Oceanian fish.

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Admin: current turn hosting postponed +24h for those busy Oceanian fish.

[Ossa]

I'll be away from Friday to Sunday evening GMT. Could we please host just once in that timeframe?

[FAJ]

I will be gone as well. I think for easter we should just postpone all hosting until Monday.

[vfb]

Sure, after it hosts, I'll delay the timer.

[vfb]

Aggh, almost staled in my own game. I added 3hrs to the timer, sorry guys, RL is teh suck at the moment.

Want me to look for a sub to speed things up, or can you suffer through another 2 weeks of Oceania being last to submit every single turn?

[Squirrelloid]

I don't mind vfb. Why not just extend the timer 12h or something?

[Quitti]

I don't mind the slight delays.

[RadioGibbon]

Take as long as you need. Theirs no point in looking for a sub when its just a matter of adding a few hours on every now and then.

[FAJ]

I prefer the longer times anyways. I hate having to submit a turn during the weekend. I am never near my computer, so I have to take an external drive around with me D:

[vfb]

Thanks guys!

Timer extended +12h this turn, for Fomoria.

[Debaser8]

After a disastrous first battle for the monkey people the bloody handed druids pushed deep into our land and built a dark temple. Refugees streamed from the land around the temple telling of the horrific sacrifice of an almost limitless stream of virgins. We knew then that when the druids defeated the savages of Mictlan some of them turned down a dark path in pursuit of power. Enraged by the blasphemy being practiced in our lands the entire kingdom rallied to drive the druids and their demonic servants from our land. Just outside the temple grounds our sacred spirits and monkeys met an army of huge boars and horrific demons sheathed in golden armor. After a long and bloody struggle with many noble Yakasha falling we drove the demons away and burned down their temple.

The gurus meditating in mount Kailasa knew in their hearts though that even the great Jatania would be unable to hold back forever the hoards of iron clad boars, vampires and demons pouring forth from Marveni. Unlike us, the druids could make good their losses. The once happy lands of Kailasa will surely be plunged into darkness.

--From the items received after the battle I know that at least one heliophagi died, but my video of the battle shows them all flying away (minus a few body parts). Does anybody have an accurate report of the battle? It is hard to script for the future without knowing what worked and what didn't.

[Squirrelloid]

My battle report was also inaccurate.

And you can paint us as the villains, but I know for a fact you were planning on attacking me. The druids are neither blind nor deaf, and I think you'll find that while you won the combat, it was far more costly for you than me in the longterm.

[Debaser8]

I think in the context of the game's background/fluff you pretty clearly are the bad guy, i.e sacrificing tons of people to summon up demons. I never mentioned the fact that you invaded me, your longtime ally, without warning, so way to attack a straw man.

As for the victory being pyrrhic, I clearly allude to this in the 2nd paragraph. Due to the assymetry of the war I would have to beat you by a ridiculous margin for me to do more dammage to you than you did to me on a percentage of resources basis.

I was just happy to "win" a battle after the first battle where I was totally massacred without inflicting any damage on you. And given your prepronderance of advantages in almost everything.

[Squirrelloid]

What greater glory or honor is there than to die for your god? Either as a warrior of the faith on the field of battle or as a willing sacrifice, all who willingly shed their blood for him are called to him in the end. No evil is done here, they willingly go to the greatest of rewards. Do you not also send your servants to their deaths?

And demons? Does a carpenter revile his hammer for being evil? Does a doctor curse his stethoscope? Then tell us, how should we treat your animation of the corpses of your slain. Or should we also revile you for cavorting with entities who claim divinity - there is but one divine entity and his name is I Accidentally a Fleshlight!

Even if we accept that demons are somehow evil, isn't it the act of god to turn even the works of evil to the greater good? Our god merely demonstrates his fitness to rule by mastering even the forces of evil.

[FAJ]

Does a Moose-Knight revile his steed for being grumpy? Does the hunter curse the antler? Does a moose sh*t in the woods?

Such are questions a diety must ponder on his throne.

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By the way, I'm going away for the weekend. Depending on when the turn hosts, I'll postpone so I can do my turn on Monday night.

[Squirrelloid]

Such are questions a diety must ponder on his throne.

Is that a lord of the fat chicks?

[Frozen Lama]

Hmmm...... A curious situation unfolds. Under the guise of "protecting and aiding" ulm against its enemies, somehow ctis has managed to lay claim to nearly half of Ulm's formor lands. This reminds the giants much of the kind of "protection" that kailasa enjoyed.

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I think C'tis is also protecting Sauromatia from Agartha.

They are just all-around good guys, those death lizards.

[FAJ]

I try to invade Sauromatia, it is percieved as protecting him from Agartha.

I try to help my friendly neighbor Ulm, and I am seen as the invader!

Sorrowmancer is gonna go back to his castle and sulk :(

[Ossa]

Well - as Sauromatia I can assure everyone noone is helping me at the moment. Really no one. Donations would be welcomed, though, in case you want to hurt Agarta or Ctis without provocing a war with them.

[Debaser8]

sword of many colors is now up for grabs

The markata children keep asking me when Santa Claus is going to visit again. Not all of them got presents the first time.

[vfb]

Admin: Hosting postponed for Omni.

The game will now host at 02:45 GMT on Wednesday April 21st.

[vfb]

Well - as Sauromatia I can assure everyone noone is helping me at the moment. Really no one. Donations would be welcomed, though, in case you want to hurt Agarta or Ctis without provocing a war with them.

Admin Reminder: Any donations must be in the form of praise, or empty promises, or moral support etc. :D

No trading, no gifts! (Except from Santa, i.e. prying artifacts out of the cold dead fingers of your enemies.)

[Ossa]

Well I'd be content enough with empty promises and moral support!

Send me your empty promises of support and reenforcements!

[RadioGibbon]

Any chance of an extra 24 hours? Sorry for the short notice but its a bad case of unexpected visitors I'm afraid.

[FAJ]

I wouldn't mind the extra time. Then I won't have to submit a turn over the weekend :D

[vfb]

Sorry guys! My night of going out and drinking blended into a morning of still drinking, and I did not see your post in time.

Feeling especially guilty since Oceania decided to help "protect" Ulm's lands from invaders. Please post earlier for extensions, if possible.

[Frozen Lama]

Yay more people to "protect" ulmish lands. :) that's what formoria has been doing for a long time. notice how both sides of the conflict are losing provs raipidly......... too much protection methinks

[RadioGibbon]

Man, you guys are really making me feel loved with all this protection.

[vfb]

R'lyeh is MIA, I've added 24hrs to the clock.

[vfb]

Added 12h for R'lyeh and Agartha.

[vfb]

Moved here (http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=9).