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PlasmaKrab
December 11th, 2009, 04:28 PM
Hello everyone,

The much-awaited Airbus heavy lifter A-400M finally took off for its maiden flight today in Seville, apparently without incident.
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6348/a400mff.jpg
Footage and pictures on the official site. (http://www.airbusmilitary.com)

Pushed back by some 3 years now, the program still seems on track in spite of constant financial haggling between EADS and the client states.

So how about including it in the OOBs now? I don't think it's going to be canceled after all. :D

First delivery is supposed to be to France around January 2013, so taking into account further delays in the program and time for training and organization, I would put IOC at January 2014.

By 01/2015, the following countries should have it in service in usable quantities:
-France
-Germany
-Spain
-Belgium
-Turkey
-South Africa
-Malaysia

My delivery schedule is a bit out of date, so I'll try to see if I can get more details on other users next week.

iCaMpWiThAWP
December 11th, 2009, 09:47 PM
Seems tha South africa no longer wants them:

http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/display_article.aspx?ArticleId=1518-25_2560151

Warwick
December 12th, 2009, 09:36 PM
So how about including it in the OOBs now? I don't think it's going to be cancelled after all.

I wouldn't be too hasty:- As you rightly state price continues to be a hurdle, also from Air International Dec :- "FADEC (Full Authority Digital Engine Control) testing in recent weeks has demonstrated that the latest software revision is "on the right track" and that no new problems have been discovered."
Hardly a ringing endorsement!
However its chances may have been boosted by the decision to end C-17 production.

Regards, Warwick

DRG
December 13th, 2009, 01:37 PM
Who seriously belives this is going to be used as a paratroop transport ???

Don

Kartoffel
December 13th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Who seriously belives this is going to be used as a paratroop transport ???

Don

I don't care if this aircraft is added or not. But if Don and Andy wasted their time on this instead of something important then that would not be good. Thats my 2 cents.

Wdll
December 13th, 2009, 02:33 PM
Who seriously belives this is going to be used as a paratroop transport ???

Don

It's possible, if NATO is tries to liberate Hokkaido from the Russians...oh wait.

PlasmaKrab
December 13th, 2009, 02:53 PM
Who seriously belives this is going to be used as a paratroop transport ???

Don
Apparently at least Airbus and the French air force, to start with. Been designed for it from the start, actually.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9550/a400mparatroops3400.jpg
Also keep in mind that at least in France and Germany, the A-400M is going to completely replace the Transall, so by 2020 there will be no other para-dropping platform in service. I wouldn't place bets on Belgium either, though Spain and Turkey can probably rely on smaller CASA platforms.

I don't care if this aircraft is added or not. But if Don and Andy wasted their time on this instead of something important then that would not be good. Thats my 2 cents.This isn't exactly the most complicated unit to model, users and dates are mostly known, icons are already in the game and I can provide LBMs.

Kartoffel
December 13th, 2009, 04:10 PM
Who seriously belives this is going to be used as a paratroop transport ???

Don
Apparently at least Airbus and the French air force, to start with. Been designed for it from the start, actually.
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9550/a400mparatroops3400.jpg
Also keep in mind that at least in France and Germany, the A-400M is going to completely replace the Transall, so by 2020 there will be no other para-dropping platform in service. I wouldn't place bets on Belgium either, though Spain and Turkey can probably rely on smaller CASA platforms.

I don't care if this aircraft is added or not. But if Don and Andy wasted their time on this instead of something important then that would not be good. Thats my 2 cents.This isn't exactly the most complicated unit to model, users and dates are mostly known, icons are already in the game and I can provide LBMs.

Good luck getting it added then.

You sound like person interested in aircraft. Myself, I like tanks more.

K.

DRG
December 13th, 2009, 06:44 PM
NO problem then Tangui. It looked to me like a heavy equipment lifter rather than a para transport but I've been busy with SPWW2 and didn't bother to dig into it. Since you have photos of it being used to drop paras then it'll be added

I see Germany, France, Spain, UK, Turkey, Belgium and Malaysia appears to be interested. My guess is this isn't likely to start appearing for at least 5 years. I've put a note into the to-do list for this

Don

PlasmaKrab
December 14th, 2009, 03:24 PM
NO problem then Tangui. It looked to me like a heavy equipment lifter rather than a para transport but I've been busy with SPWW2 and didn't bother to dig into it. Since you have photos of it being used to drop paras then it'll be added

I see Germany, France, Spain, UK, Turkey, Belgium and Malaysia appears to be interested. My guess is this isn't likely to start appearing for at least 5 years. I've put a note into the to-do list for this

DonOK, alright, thanks for the feedback.
I just thought it was the right point to bring it up.
As said, I'll try to keep you up on the planned service dates for each user.

DRG
December 14th, 2009, 03:51 PM
The prespective of that first photo made it look like a C-5 Galaxy sized aircraft and that's why I questioned it's use as a para transport. The second photo puts it's size in better prespective.

Don

thatguy96
January 12th, 2010, 01:16 PM
A400M...or not.

Airbus chief says he 'may cancel A400M' military plane (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8452493.stm)

DRG
January 12th, 2010, 05:14 PM
I guess it's just as well I hadn't done the Icon yet...:re:

This has all happened too many times since we started this game and why I'm a bit reluctant to put things in until it's actually been delivered somewhere.

Don

gila
January 12th, 2010, 11:29 PM
Btw,found this video of C-5B world record airdropping 85 tons of tanks and paras in 1989.

http://milvideos.magnify.net/video/Lockheed-C-5B-Galaxy-World-Reco

Not that it's something i'd like to see in this game however epecially on the receving end in pbem:hurt:.

Still amazing to watch:D