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Arralen
July 21st, 2010, 05:57 AM
It's a sure sign you haven't played a game for too long when you don't even know the basics for sure any more :(
Anyhow, here's my problem:

I figured that having a Bakemono Sorcerer cast Twiceborn, then drown him by moving him into a see province and taking away his Ring of Water Breathing / Shambler Armour would be a good way to kill him without getting even more afflictions when he comes back as a wight.

I'm pretty sure it worked once - in the last game.
Now, I've lost 2 sorcerers (and quite some gems!), as I only get the message "XY drowned in ZZ", but no wight appears.
And before you ask, yes, I still own my capitol. In both provinces there's DOM 10. Twiceborn was successfully cast 2 turns before. And those sorcerers aren't demons/undead etc.

Where did I err ?

Finalgenesis
July 21st, 2010, 06:17 AM
I read in other threads that drowning is a bug that bypasses your twiceborn... So no drowning them to convert them to undead.

So some creativity would be needed in suiciding them quickly and without affliction. I believe fatiguing them to death (aura, communion) and high difficulty rout death was discussed in those thread, bog beast was thrown out as I believe poison damage does cause affliction.

Arralen
July 21st, 2010, 07:13 AM
I read in other threads that drowning is a bug that bypasses your twiceborn... So no drowning them to convert them to undead.
But it worked once, I'm pretty sure.
More testing needed, it seems ...

You don't have link to those threads, by chance?

Finalgenesis
July 21st, 2010, 07:36 AM
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=38096&highlight=twiceborn

post #5

RadicalTurnip
July 21st, 2010, 08:25 AM
Would mind-hunting your own units work?

Stavis_L
July 21st, 2010, 08:46 AM
Would mind-hunting your own units work?

You can't mind-hunt your own units.

Squirrelloid
July 21st, 2010, 12:15 PM
Life After Death is cheaper and easier than twiceborn, and you can 'batch-order' it. Admittedly, the chassis you get isn't quite as nice. (Works best with death by poison probably). Warning: May be considered an exploit.

13lackGu4rd
July 23rd, 2010, 12:06 PM
I read in other threads that drowning is a bug that bypasses your twiceborn... So no drowning them to convert them to undead.
But it worked once, I'm pretty sure.
More testing needed, it seems ...

You don't have link to those threads, by chance?

maybe it worked in 1 of the older patches, but these things tend to change a lot with the patch updates.