campaign: auto-buy

[hawk66]

just a small proposal: add the possibility to auto-purchase units in a generated campaign - similar to the option, which is available during generating of battles.

So the player has to cope with the force he gets.

[DRG]

While I could see limited use for this me gut tells me in 99.5 % of the cases people would rather pick their own forces when playing campaigns . Single battles are fine for that kind of experiment but 10 battles in a row is a bit much when you are handed units you may not want or need or care to use

Don

[hawk66]

While I could see limited use for this me gut tells me in 99.5 % of the cases people would rather pick their own forces when playing campaigns . Single battles are fine for that kind of experiment but 10 battles in a row is a bit much when you are handed units you may not want or need or care to use

Don

I agree that most people probably want to pick their forces by themselves. On the other hand, it just would add some more realism to the game.

[Mobhack]

While I could see limited use for this me gut tells me in 99.5 % of the cases people would rather pick their own forces when playing campaigns . Single battles are fine for that kind of experiment but 10 battles in a row is a bit much when you are handed units you may not want or need or care to use

Don

I agree that most people probably want to pick their forces by themselves. On the other hand, it just would add some more realism to the game.

It would be rather a lot of work on a feature that less than 1% of end users would ever use.

(If that is what you want then why not just send your files to a friend to act as higher HQ for you :))

Andy

[hawk66]

ok, then my wish is postponed until you guys develop a complete new version of that great game ;).

[Griefbringer]

Another way for those wanting a randomly generated force would be to first start a battle with randomly generated forces, write down what you got, exit the battle, start the campaign and use the list from that battle to make your purchases.

That said, I am not all that fond of random force generation - if I want to go for realism, I prefer to start with an actual historical battalion TOE and then make some additions to it. For example currently I am doing a 1946 "Red Storm" (US vs USSR) with my core force being an armoured infantry battalion (3 regular companies and 1 support company) with some extras to go with the theme (2 SPAA sections, 1 armoured engineer platoon and 1 armoured cavalry platoon).

[void1984]

I think a much easier solution will be if someone just posted his typical, balanced force list. Maybe it was discussed before what should be chosen in '50s '60s '70s and so on for major countries.

[Marek_Tucan]

Have to say I was thinking of doing this... Found resorces on the SOTCW website, trying to process them via the Mind Map generator, the same for FM-100-60-3 or how is it called dealing with the Red Army... If I ever get to creating my website, will try to have one such section ;)
In the meantime, here is for example the organisation of a Soviet Motor Rifle Bn (BTR) from 1980s, as per the US Field Manual:
http://tuccy.sweb.cz/MR%20Bn%20BTR.jpeg

[void1984]

That's exactly what I was thinking about.
I have mainly played during WWII period, so for me it is also interesting when AT guns has been replaced with ATGM and other radical changes.
This map should be of greater help to the topic's author than any cripple AI buy assistance.

[JohnHale]

Hawk,

I am one of those strange people who would appreciate such an option. In war, you have to fight with what you have - not an ideal battlegroup.

Finding PBEM opponents brave enough to try auto-pick is not easy...

[Skirmisher]

Hawk,

I am one of those strange people who would appreciate such an option. In war, you have to fight with what you have - not an ideal battlegroup.

Finding PBEM opponents brave enough to try auto-pick is not easy...



How about India / Pakistan 1975 ?

Take whatever side you wish.

I'm running the latest widescreen version here.

[JohnHale]

Skirmisher,

You were brave enough to play like this with me in the past - I salute your courage. Everyone else is a chicken!

Can't take you on at the moment, I'm afraid - RL kicked me hard last month, and I can't play as many games as I could in the past. But if you sign up at the World at war site (just click on my banner sig) I'm sure you'll find someone able to play.

[gila]

I've played a couple AI-buy force battles and find them more interesting and challenging than the comman P1 and P2 Human-buy.

Each time however *I* set-up according to the AI-buy rule and had a very exciting but different and wonderful difficult game.

IIRC the map is random also.

My question is:

Can P1 use human-buy (as a cheat) and set P2 to AI-buy while P2 is not aware?

Or is it a honor thing?

[Skirmisher]

Skirmisher,

Can't take you on at the moment, I'm afraid - RL kicked me hard last month, and I can't play as many games as I could in the past. But if you sign up at the World at war site (just click on my banner sig) I'm sure you'll find someone able to play.

Sorry to hear that. I don't really have any desire to play PBEM,
but I would play a few people that I had enjoyable games with in the past. You would certainly be on that list. When things turn around for you send me a PM and we'll get a computer buy game going.

[Skirmisher]

Each time however *I* set-up according to the AI-buy rule

What does that mean exactly? As I understand it, you manually picked what "you" believe the computer would/should buy...

[gila]

Each time however *I* set-up according to the AI-buy rule

What does that mean exactly? As I understand it, you manually picked what "you" believe the computer would/should buy...

Where are you getting that thought process?

OH,,,,I had said "according AI Buy rules" which should mean CU buy for both sides,I should have said
ONLY
instead of "according" to be very clear.

HU deploy for both sides,,,,are you up to one?

Honorable players only,should play this way,see i just answered my own query:)

[plastictree]

Have to say I was thinking of doing this... Found resorces on the SOTCW website, trying to process them via the Mind Map generator, the same for FM-100-60-3 or how is it called dealing with the Red Army... If I ever get to creating my website, will try to have one such section ;)
In the meantime, here is for example the organisation of a Soviet Motor Rifle Bn (BTR) from 1980s, as per the US Field Manual:
http://tuccy.sweb.cz/MR%20Bn%20BTR.jpeg

Do you happen to have a link to other similar OOB charts from the 80's, eg. soviet tank regiment, etc.?

It is extremely well laid out for my purposes and I like it (much better visual representation than most of the organisation of the unit and what equipment is used), but I can only find more recent FM's that aren't laid out in the same way and don't have 80's organisational information.

[Mobhack]

search Google for a second hand copy of Isby's 1985(?) book "weapons and tactics of the soviet army" - it has what you need, chapters on organisation, weapons, tactics, equipment etc.

Should be able to find a copy for about 20 UKP/40 USD or so from second-hand booksellers

Andy

[Roman]

It may be interesting to play PBEM IA purchase. We could do a test battle. Gila if you want to do one but out of "The Blitz" :).

[gila]

It may be interesting to play PBEM IA purchase. We could do a test battle. Gila if you want to do one but out of "The Blitz" :).

We could one not a test as i've played many this way, should be reported as a legit game on the Blitz as all others,why not?

[Roman]

It may be interesting to play PBEM IA purchase. We could do a test battle. Gila if you want to do one but out of "The Blitz" :).

We could one not a test as i've played many this way, should be reported as a legit game on the Blitz as all others,why not?

Ok. We battle and the AI make the purchase. We report the battle in "The Blitz".