NewbsGoneWild: Uninhibited amateur action! [Quell wins]

[iRFNA]

That's really ominous

[Admiral_Aorta]

I thought you said the timer was turned off? It seems to be on 48 hours. Also, when I connect to the server the game hangs and I have to close it with the task manager, but when I try again it's fine.

[iRFNA]

I have that problem too! And I emailed gandalf about it, it'll happen when he does it. I don't actually have direct control of the server, it's just that gandalf is usually so insanely prompt that my requests are answered within minutes.

[NaivePhilosopher]

I dunno about Ryleh, but I'm willing to declare a truce so that our newest sub (thanks btw!) can get his feet under him. The situation otherwise would be fairly grim. Also short, unless I drastically miss my guess, which is just no fun at all.

[Thanatus del Dragos]

It really doesn't matter, almost no research has been done, the pretender is a joke, the comanders that have been hired are among the worst independents have to offer...I have almost no mages...its truly amazing.

[iRFNA]

Ouch. Well, it's a newb game. On the bright side, I was considering starting up another newb game somewhat soon, so maybe you could hop on that later for a full game instead of a massacre.

[Thanatus del Dragos]

Eh, I'm okay trying to fend off the attacks until I am massacred, lol. But, there is no reason to let off of me to give me a chance, the nation has fallen way too far behind to make that worthwile.

[Admiral_Aorta]

Well, I'll continue to massacre you then. :D I'm surprised that the position was that hopeless, but then it is a newb game. That's one disadvantage to having graphs off, you overestimate your opponent. On the other hand, they may overestimate you.

[NaivePhilosopher]

Alright, just thought I'd make the offer. I subbed into a fairly hopeless position over in another game recently, so I know the feeling. Also, yes, I'm a bit surprised at just how hopeless it is as well, though the mind hunting there at the end might have a bit to do with the commander selection, anyway.

[lwarmonger]

I've been having the hanging thing upon login happen as well, every time. I found that my firewall was interfering, which is unusual, since it hadn't been before.

[Admiral_Aorta]

I wonder if it's been caused by the recent patch? I can't think of anything else and it seems to be happening to quite a few people. Have any other multiplayer games had the same thing?

[NaivePhilosopher]

I was having that problem until last night at some point; it works fine for me now. Very odd.

[Gandalf Parker]

Sometimes it can be at the server end. Doing a traceroute (or in windows its a tracert) can be helpful in pointing out if things are a problem at your end, the other end, or any of the connections in-between.

[iRFNA]

Ok, once everyone shows that they are alive, I'll have gandalf put the timer back on. No idea who all might have been affected beyond NaivePhilosopher, although there is that massive cyclone at australia going on too...

[Admiral_Aorta]

Aha, so you survived the snowpocalypse. :)

[freepower]

Definitely alive. ^_^

[NaivePhilosopher]

I'm still alive. It hasn't been overly fun out here, but from what I can gather it was much worse further west, so at least there's that.

[Thanatus del Dragos]

East Kansas was hit pretty hard, it's damn cold. But, got two days off work!! Woot.

[Peacekeeper]

still kickin for a little bit longer.

[iRFNA]

Ok, since the last 2 posts are the last 2 people without a turn in, I'm gonna guess everyone is ready to go back to 48 hour hosting.

[Admiral_Aorta]

Sounds good.

[Thanatus del Dragos]

24 hours would be good too.

[lwarmonger]

24 hours would not be good.

[Admiral_Aorta]

I think 24 hours would be a bit tight, since we've got people in different timezones.

[Thanatus del Dragos]

Okay, just throwing that out there :)

[freepower]

48 hours for me, sometimes I have to work really long days and I could easily forget. :(

[iRFNA]

If everyone just tries to submit really fast, we can essentially have 24 hour host! Sorta.

[Thanatus del Dragos]

Really sorry about the stalling, I'm an idiot, won't happen again. New to MP games. Sorry.

[iRFNA]

Haha, it's fine.

[iRFNA]

Hey Thanatus: new newb game I'm starting (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=47017)

Maybe you'll get to live more than a dozen turns!

[freepower]

Hey, every time I connect to the server my dom3 crashes and hangs. Anyone else having trouble or just me?

[iRFNA]

I've had that prob off and on and others have posted about it... When it happens, I just crash dom and try again. Usually works the 2nd time.

[Thanatus del Dragos]

Yea, usually works the second time for me. rarely do I have to try a third time and never a fourth.

[Admiral_Aorta]

Gift of health eh, Bogarus? I wonder if that's a prelude to tartarians.

[Quell]

Maybe :)

[freepower]

This is pretty horrible, I still haven't been able to log in despite many attempts. I don't want to stale again, if nothing can be done then I guess a sub would be able to continue.

I'm perplexed and upset. :(

[iRFNA]

doh, I'm really not sure what to do about this

[iRFNA]

freepower, try now. Gandalf reset the server, and now I no longer experience The Problem™

[freepower]

Thanks, yeah, all is well, although the turn I missed may turn out to have been essential for the clash ahead. :(

On the other hand, excited for future developments! :D

[iRFNA]

Ya, that stale sucks. Sorry about that, I should have tried to have gandalf restart the server earlier.

[freepower]

No, it's no problem, I was probably a little late voicing my concerns. And it gives me a great excuse if I lose the game. :P

[Admiral_Aorta]

Huh, gift of health got dispelled quickly.

[Thanatus del Dragos]

Hahaha, Talking about gift of health and Tarts...I literally only have level 2 research in two schools of magic, and 0 in everything else, And no mages. But I have an army of indy H1 priest. Bring it, *****es!

[Admiral_Aorta]

That would probably explain the current state of Vanheim. ;) Krpeters seemed to like using independents. Perhaps a bit too much.

[Thanatus del Dragos]

Turn 45 is up! My triumph is soon at hand!

[Admiral_Aorta]

I don't think I like the look of all those demons Bogarus has there.

[NaivePhilosopher]

We cower in fear before the mighty Vanheim-in. Ims? ianians? Something of that nature. Resuming cowering.

Edit: Very neatly arranged force. At least they're organized demons.

[freepower]

At least he hasn't totally got the hang of communions yet, managed to clear out 11 slaves by surviving a few turns in another battle.

You can see why staling a few turns ago was bad, eh? :P

[Quell]

Yeah, I suck bad at communions. Probably because this is my first game I actually used them :D. Also dominion with drain might have helped my slaves build up fatigue extremely fast.

[iRFNA]

You dare strike at The Emperor, Genestealers? Did you think I didn't know what you were, as if you "hydras" weren't obvious enough!

[NaivePhilosopher]

The jig is up, it seems. The Hivemind desires your lands, lapdogs of the Emperor.

[lwarmonger]

The "Emperor" should learn the folly of cornering someone. You earned an implacable enemy by boxing me in like that, and now you must pay!

One of the benefits of having fetid, rotting swamps as your favorite terrain. Nobody really wants the land you occupy.

[iRFNA]

Now now, let me just put you back in the box, and we can put this tantrum behind us.

[lwarmonger]

Yes... try and retake that fortress. Please?

[iRFNA]

2 hours to go, hinnom and fomoria...

[Peacekeeper]

sorry had to take care of something this morning. turns in.

[iRFNA]

Haha, it's fine, just trying to make sure no one stales!

Uh oh, I think I'm in a bit of trouble. Triple teaming bastards.

[Peacekeeper]

with all of 3 provinces left ... my turns arnt very different from a stale turn anyway. =)

[NaivePhilosopher]

I thought the Emperor was surgically attached to his throne, not on the front lines!

[iRFNA]

he got better

[NaivePhilosopher]

Well, temporarily anyway. Dear lord though, my mages. And I probably should've realized you had plenty of anti-lightning measures given your conversation with Fomoria earlier. :doh:

[iRFNA]

It was such a pretty communion, I just had to break it.

[Thanatus del Dragos]

I'm doomed! Doomed! lol

[lwarmonger]

Well, fortunately for Man, each of his neighbors has reasonably large distractions on their own flanks as well. Still, we really need to snuff him out.

[Admiral_Aorta]

I don't think me or Pythium are particularly distracted, since Vanheim is just a besieged fort, although the outcome of Bogarus and Hinnom's war will be interesting.

[iRFNA]

Ya, I'm pretty sure I'm the main attraction in this little theme park.

[iRFNA]

40 minutes you sluggish giants! Also, peacekeeper, you bastard, we need quick turns in newbswithlowselfesteem!

[NaivePhilosopher]

Did Hinnom end up staling? Bogarus must be pleased.

[Admiral_Aorta]

I hope Hinnom isn't letting Bogarus win easily. That would be just awful.

[lwarmonger]

What on earth happened to all of Man's fortresses?

[iRFNA]

Exterminatus. You didn't think I'd just let you have them, did you?

[Admiral_Aorta]

Which ones? I'm not seeing any difference.

[iRFNA]

I can't raze that last expansion cause of bogus... And this isn't a capitulation, so my capital still stands. It's just basic strategy.

[lwarmonger]

People were trying to take your fortresses? Man is made for defending fortresses (well, perhaps not as much as my native C'tis... but still).

[Admiral_Aorta]

Is Hinnom still playing turns? They seem to be either staling or cutting it very fine.

[iRFNA]

That's what I've been wondering. Bogarus, have you seen hinnom moving stuff?

[freepower]

I've staled once more but aside from that I've just been cutting things fine, things just got pretty busy recently with real life. Be assured that while Bogarus is basically rolling me, I'm not helping him do it. :P

[iRFNA]

The state of the right side of the map is awesome. Although I think bogarus is going to wreck this party when he's finished with hinnom. :(

[Thanatus del Dragos]

Somebody put me out of my misery!

[NaivePhilosopher]

I'm trying!

[lwarmonger]

(sigh)... 18 marshmasters... 15 of them scripted to spam undead for as long as they can... precisely 1 does it. Now most of them are dead. Not that they didn't earn it for disobeying me, I would have just rather they had obeyed my scripted orders and won. Anyone got any clues as to why this is happening? I know Man noticed that there was a distinct lack of undead coming at him as well. All those marshmasters casting the wonderful personal protection spells they have as they hang out in the rear, rather than creating masses of undead chaff to wear down our enemies at the same time that poison is sapping his ability to resist.

[Admiral_Aorta]

Sometimes the AI decides that the enemy army isn't strong enough to waste scripted spells on.

[Peacekeeper]

the way the morrigans dropped right on those marshmasters .. i dont think hte undead would have helped.

[lwarmonger]

Masses of undead would have gone straight for the morrigans... once the script ran out the mages would have started casting damaging spells while the morrigans were tied up. Fifteen marshmasters spamming undead can do a hell of a lot of tying up, even from point blank range.

[Peacekeeper]

Masses of undead would have gone straight for the morrigans... once the script ran out the mages would have started casting damaging spells while the morrigans were tied up. Fifteen marshmasters spamming undead can do a hell of a lot of tying up, even from point blank range.

theyd start casting protection spells til they were all over 100 fatigue. =)

[lwarmonger]

Which is my issue. I want my mages following the script that I set for them! Once that script runs out they can do what they want. Protection spells for a mage that will never be much of a combatant are worthless. Regardless, they weren't even euphamerally acquianted to the script I set them, so it became irrellavant.

[lwarmonger]

Have fun peacekeeper! Enjoy your vacation in the swamps!

[Peacekeeper]

someone needs to come kill me already, ive been dead for 20 turns now, not earning any gold and losing 3-4 troops per turn to upkeep costs. Its starting to get pretty ridiculous, lol. Guess ill try to take you out or lose my only army in the process!

[lwarmonger]

I am happy to oblige your first wish!

[Admiral_Aorta]

Only two hours to go, Hinnom...

[freepower]

Thanks for the reminder, fri-saturday is absolutely mental for me and I have an old friend visiting.

That was a monstrous battle, eh Bogey?

It seems that Hell Power actually horror marks the caster as well, I was rather hoping to massively buff my prophet, cast hell power, then horror mark Bogarus's forces.

If nothing else, this game has taught me -

CBM Hinnom < Native Hinnom
Magic Diversity > focusing on national troops

[Quell]

Yeah, that was an epic battle. Once again I lost a ton of communion slaves to fatigue :/. Drain and heat dominion sure was on your side, Hinnom.
Also enslave mind spam didn't work out as well as i anticipated.
Guess thunderstrike was the key spell that won me the combat in the end :)

[freepower]

Yeah, I had a horrible moment at one point where I realised I basically had no decent way of getting into evocation-spam - in Native Baals are pretty good casters. Also, my whole blood economy was like, meganerfed. XD

Anyway, next time I'll just wait like 3 more turns and get my Lords of Civilisation up, I didn't suspect you had a force of that magnitude about and I thought I could delay you more with raiding melquarts. :(

[iRFNA]

They will break upon this fortress like water on rock. Pythium's hordes will pillage and burn, we've seen it before. Crops can be resown. Homes rebuilt. Within these walls, we will outlast them.

[Admiral_Aorta]

I'm not sure why you cast sea of ice Fomoria, I wasn't going to attack you. You've given me a buffer against retaliation from Bogarus though, so thank you.

[iRFNA]

Maybe he wants to go skating?

[Peacekeeper]

cause ive been dead for a while and im kind of bored, so i figured why not.

oh and lessons for future games, rigor mortis + skelly spam...stops the skele spam very quickly.

[Gandalf Parker]

More and more Im getting requests for game-check links on private games.
So we now have two.

One for ALL games (private and public)
http://game.dom3minions.com/bin/games_chk.cgi

And a smaller list of just the private games (like this one)
http://game.dom3minions.com/bin/privategames.cgi

Gandalf Parker

[iRFNA]

Awesome, thanks!

[lwarmonger]

cause ive been dead for a while and im kind of bored, so i figured why not.

oh and lessons for future games, rigor mortis + skelly spam...stops the skele spam very quickly.

Yeah, awesome wasn't it? Unanticipated, to say the least. Well, lets see who wins the last battle. Whoever it is will be a cripple regardless.

[NaivePhilosopher]

That battle ended only slightly worse than I'd predicted. I figured that for a loss, I just wasn't sure how bad it would be. Hrm. I need to plot some more, it seems; that was a very large amount of Wardens/Mothers of Avalon, plus heroes.

[Peacekeeper]

cause ive been dead for a while and im kind of bored, so i figured why not.

oh and lessons for future games, rigor mortis + skelly spam...stops the skele spam very quickly.

Yeah, awesome wasn't it? Unanticipated, to say the least. Well, lets see who wins the last battle. Whoever it is will be a cripple regardless.

well, for certain you have less in that fort than you first did and all you killed was black hawks summoned so i could break down the wall. Something would have to go very wrong for me to lose at this point.

[lwarmonger]

well, for certain you have less in that fort than you first did and all you killed was black hawks summoned so i could break down the wall. Something would have to go very wrong for me to lose at this point.

I have different in that fort than you've faced until now. We'll see.

[Admiral_Aorta]

Don't forget to play your turn, Hinnom!

[freepower]

Yeah, so my last gasp strat didn't pay off (didn't expect it to) - I would like to join the ranks of the "pretty much totally dead". Consider my provinces up for grabs.

Although I don't mean to simply play possum. :P

[iRFNA]

Sorry about those hydras

[NaivePhilosopher]

Better than losing yet another communion honestly. 12 hydras are no longer enough to do much it seems

[lwarmonger]

I think anyone who fought me at all is pretty much immune to poison at this point. Incidently, you are welcome Pythium.

[NaivePhilosopher]

A kingly gift C'tis. I'll use it wisely.

[lwarmonger]

Bam, and I'm out!

[Admiral_Aorta]

Fomoria packs quite a punch for a nation that's been "dead" for quite some time. :)

[NaivePhilosopher]

Thinking back, C'tis was talking about being doomed since right around Christmas, so the fact that they've both lasted this long against one another and Man is altogether very impressive.

[Peacekeeper]

Fomoria packs quite a punch for a nation that's been "dead" for quite some time. :)

this is the first turn ive had a positive income in .... i cant remmeber how long, lol.

[lwarmonger]

Well, that is because now you've got my great scales for my capital without the negative income modifiers that you get from it being C'tis's dominion. As time goes on that will attenuate out, especially if you spread your own dominion into the provinces.

[iRFNA]

Daaaamn, that hurt. But I think it hurt you more than it hurt me!

[NaivePhilosopher]

Very much so, unfortunately. Some very silly mistakes on my part exacerbated that.

[Admiral_Aorta]

That cloud trapezing Asynja is really annoying, damn.

[iRFNA]

That's some pretty reliable mind hunting there, pythium. Do you have +3 penetration on those guys? +5?

[NaivePhilosopher]

It was actually just a spell Foci for each of the Arch Theurgs; I got extremely lucky there.

[NaivePhilosopher]

General declaration from Pythium to Bogarus,

Though I would very much prefer to avoid a war on two fronts, the growing might of Bogarus is not something that I'm able to avoid any longer. Though Man clings to his capital with ferocity, the armies of Pythium shall also be turning west, to the empire of Bogarus.

Incidentally, I have a feeling that this is a terrible idea, but it's the best one I have left at this point.

[iRFNA]

Damn, I'm going to be trapped in a horrible limbo now, aren't I. I guess it's all I deserve for doing it to c'tis then fomoria... By the way, it is a terrible idea, I can say so from experience.

[Peacekeeper]

he doesnt have a choice, bogarus has to be beaten soon or he wins.

[iRFNA]

I know. Perhaps if he lessened the pressure on me and let me push west a bit, I might be willing to use my meager powers against bogarus. However, he seems very determined to capture my capital, probably because I keep trying to break free like a swarm of angry bees trapped in a plastic bag.

[NaivePhilosopher]

I was considering it, up to and including returning some of your territory (truth be told I still am) but leaving a potentially very hostile enemy on an unguarded border terrifies me for some reason. ;)

[iRFNA]

Well, I make no promises about my hostility as I just sort of spray it out there. But I like to knock down whoever is on top, and if I get back some territory, I have a feeling bogarus will not enjoy the wrath of the emperor.

[Quell]

Dammit, first Hinnom declares war, then R'lyeh, and now Pythium along with Man. Wouldn't be surprised if Fomoria joined in as well :D. Guess I gotta start summoning those demons again

[NaivePhilosopher]

The price of being the front runner with a continent to yourself, I guess ;)

[Peacekeeper]

the war in the north is going well, how goes it to the south? oh ya, an air queen is up for grabs if anyone can summon it this turn.

[NaivePhilosopher]

The war in the south goes poorly. I still need to figure out a decent way to try and recover from that loss.

[Admiral_Aorta]

What loss was that? I've got a little surprise moving in shortly. I hope Bogarus likes it.

[NaivePhilosopher]

It was a bit of a double whammy. I moved in an army to attack one of Bogarus' that was sieging a fort, he absolutely smashed the army then took the fort to boot. Not a good day for Pythium.

[Admiral_Aorta]

Sorry about those shishis Pythium, I didn't realize you were attacking that province.

[NaivePhilosopher]

They haven't been very useful, largely as a result of my failure to utilize them properly. I like the surprise though

[iRFNA]

That hurt. A lot

[Admiral_Aorta]

I think I noticed that. One turn you had a big army, the next, Bogarus had an extra province.

[Quell]

Ouch. Too bad there was no province to retreat to, be more careful next time ;)

[Peacekeeper]

retarded king didnt cast dance of the morrigans, lost me that fight. I hate the AI in this game...

[Quell]

Bummer. I also had some problems when my whole main army wouldn't move for several turns because earth attack spell was cast at it. Well maybe that's not a bug, but still very annoying :D

[NaivePhilosopher]

That blocks movement? Huh. Well, the more you know.

[Quell]

Well I don't know if that's the reason for my army being stuck, but it's the only one I came up with

[NaivePhilosopher]

Well, I'm almost certain that turn will end up sealing my fate. Enjoy the free 144 astral pearls+gear, Bogarus.

[Peacekeeper]

ya, im pretty much beaten in the north. I could only defeat his armies so many times with my 1 and i dont have the resources to replace what i lost over the 4-5 big fights.

Anyone against just calling Quell and Bogarus the winner at this point?

[iRFNA]

I will if everyone else will.

[Admiral_Aorta]

I'm still fighting down in the south on land, but once he forces me out there's not much I can do from the water.

[iRFNA]

Ya, there's not much I can do either. I'm only alive because NaivePhilosopher can't afford to kill me.

[Admiral_Aorta]

I kinda want to have a climactic final battle, so I'll concede once Bogarus captures my fort in province 11. Have at you!

[NaivePhilosopher]

Alright then, let's make a game of it. Now would probably be a good time to experiment on some stuff anyway.

[Admiral_Aorta]

The game is drawing to a close, so a hero who would have been really useful about 50 turns ago decides to turn up now. Brilliant.

[Admiral_Aorta]

And that's me out. I concede defeat to Bogarus. It's been a good game. It would have been nice if my troll king stayed on script, though.

[Peacekeeper]

was a fun game guys, ggs all around and congrats quell on your win.

[Quell]

Thanks :) i had a lot of fun too. I must say this game was a real challenge and i really learned a lot because of that.

[NaivePhilosopher]

Yeah, I'll be conceding as well. Great job Quell; your communions put mine to shame. I couldn't seem to win a single fight that was on a remotely even level (then I accidentally handed you my Seraph :doh: ) Still, I had a lot of fun and I learned quite a bit; I'm really glad I ended up subbing into this game and it was a blast playing with all of you.

[Admiral_Aorta]

iRFNA, you should organise another game, since this one went so well and the other one is going good(though not for me).

[Thanatus del Dragos]

Yea, start a new game, I don't feel that I had a good chance to show what I am made of in this one...

[iRFNA]

I will soon. I've been messing around with CPCS (http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=55), might give it a whirl in the next game.

[Admiral_Aorta]

I have to confess that the blood slaves that I was using at the end there were somewhat illicitly acquired. It turns out that while you can't normally blood hunt underwater(because of the option not appearing in the menu), you can still do it using the keyboard shortcut.

[iRFNA]

Come on, you apes, do you want to live forever? (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=47172)