LA Game - World of Symmetry 7/10 left

[Executor]

Game Name: World of Symmetry
Server: LlamaServer
Players: 10
Map: World of symmetry (fixed starts)
Map Link:http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9121&d=1260505453


Settings:
Era: Late
Indies: 5 or higher
Special Sites: 45 or higher
Graphs: Disabled (use scouts)
HoF: 15
Research: Standard
Victory conditions: To the death
Mods: CBM 1.6, EDM


NAPs and other agreements are expected to be honored once accepted, not binding however.

Banned nations: Ermor, Ryleh
Banned spells: AN, AC, BoT


Players:

Executor - Bogarus
Dimaz - C'tis
<strike>Samhain - Agartha</strike>
NooBliss - Man
Festin - Jomon
thejeff - Patala - now played by Mrcolosimo
P3D - Gath
<strike>don_Pablo - Midgard</strike>
<strike>ghoul_31 - Marginon</strike>
arnob - Atlantis - now played by Numhar

[Dimaz]

Ctis please :)

[Samhain]

Agartha please.

[NooBliss]

I'll grab Man.

[Festin]

Jomon please.

[thejeff]

I'll give Patala a try.

I assume hosting will drop back to daily after the holidays? At least until things get complicated.

[Executor]

I'll give Patala a try.

I assume hosting will drop back to daily after the holidays? At least until things get complicated.

Indeed they will, I'll keep a somewhat longer hosting interval until new year-ish. Than it's back to 24h per turn until it's requested otherwise.

[P3D]

Gath.

[don_Pablo]

Midgard

[ghoul31]

marignon

[arnob]

Atlantis please !

[Executor]

Ok we're full.
Start making your pretenders and I'll set up the game as soon as I can.
Also, I think the I put the link for the wrong map, there are two versions on the Llamaserver map browser (you have to use the old one, the new one doesn't have the map, wrong link) however one is World of Geometry and the other is World of Symetry, although both are under the same name.
I'll set the correct link as soon as I can.

[Executor]

Scratch that, it appears that the WorldofSymmetry map on the server is ok, it just has a faulty link.
The map I attached should be fine to use, expect that I can't seem to upload the fixed, well more fixed, version of it to the Llamaserver so we'll have to use the one Vfb posted (it's on the old map browser).

All you have to do is download the map I attacked in the OP and rename the tga back to "worldofsymetry2" and it should be fine.

So, game created, send in pretenders so we can get started.
Cheers.

[thejeff]

And we're off!!

Ahem. Sorry.

An Age has ended. The final war begins! This time the lesser peoples shall be swept away and the apes rule all!

[Executor]

And we're off!!


Hey, I'm supposed to say that.;)

And we're off!
I've delayed the game 96 hours due to holidays, hopefully everyone will keep sending their turns no matter. And I'll keep an eye on the clock so that nobody stales if we do host a but sooner.
We should get back to regular schedule around January 2-3.

Also, any remarks about using the wrong pretender, glitches, and ofter stuff speak up before the game gets going, there will be no turning back afterward.

Cheers.

[P3D]

I should note that the mapfile on the server is apparently buggy. I found two provinces that have incorrect terrain, and at least one missing province neighbors. They are correct in the downloadable map.

I could not find additional errors after a cursory search on provinces.

[don_Pablo]

I'm going to be out of town for a few days.
Delay please hosting till everning 5.01.11

[thejeff]

Since no one else has said anything, Marignon is our first casualty.

Thanks for playing it out to the bitter end. I got to see your breakout attempt. It was an impressive effort. I really thought you were going to win it for a bit there. If your mages had spammed Blood Boil instead of Fire Flies...

[Executor]

Oh, right, I'm the admin.

Thanks for playing ghoul_31, and much appreciated for sticking it out til the last man!

I've grown quite fond of this map, it seems big for only 10 players but it really isn't, as soon as you get into the central lands battles start, and o have I seen some good battles!

[Festin]

So, I finally lost my capital. Good work, Bogarus.

But do not think that this is over. Whatever happens, we will fight to the end.

[Executor]

Thanks, I've frankly had it over my head with your thugs, they sure whooped, or should I say whipped my ars. ;)
I think I'll try Jomon in some future game, I've grown very fond of them.

That was one lucky shuriken ninja assassin btw...

Oh, and congrats on that very lucky win Vanheim, that was fun to watch.

[Festin]

Thanks, I've frankly had it over my head with your thugs, they sure whooped, or should I say whipped my ars. ;)
I think I'll try Jomon in some future game, I've grown very fond of them.


This is my second time playing Jomon in MP, and both of them ended exactly the same way - using thugs to fight a long hopeless battle against superior armies and mages. I conclude that the thugs are good, but Jomon as a whole has problems.

And now CBM killed the hammers, so no more budget thugs for Jomon. Sad.

[P3D]

Executor,

Could you increase hosting interval? At least to 27h.

[Executor]

Certainly, hosting interval changed to 27h.

We've had a really good run, but please say so if you need delays and bigger increase of hosting interval.

[don_Pablo]

The flag of Midgard has fallen.
Presumably due to early war on two fronts.

GL! :)

[arnob]

Hello

Do you think possible to increase the hosting interval to 48h ? It became difficult for me to play every day

Arnob

[Dimaz]

I agree it's time for 48h.

[Executor]

I'm in need of a bigger interval as well. Hosting changed to 48h.

Thank you for participating don_Pablo and holding on till the very end, this has been a gentlemens game with everyone fighting till the end and almost no stales, I very much hope this continues.

Cheers everyone.

[NooBliss]

I wouldnt exactly call surrendering all one's lands to one enemy without a fight to run amok and try the 'burning earth' thing in other players lands while avoiding battles at all costs to stall for time a 'gentlemens' behaviour.
I wouldnt even call it 'fighting till the end' - fighting implies, you know, fighting. Surviving, defending etc. But oh well.

[arnob]

Did you receive the mail from the llamaserver ? What do we do ?

Arnob

[Executor]

We wait for Llama to sort everything, and than we continue.

[thejeff]

Executor, I'm going to have to ask for a day's delay.
I've gotten much of it done, but this is an important turn and I just don't have any more time before the deadline.

Thanks

[Executor]

24h added.

[thejeff]

I hate to do it, but I'm going to have to ask for another delay. I had time today, but I've just been drafted to spend the day trying to clear a foot of ice off a friend's roof.

[Executor]

Well, you see good deeds don't pay off now?

Game delayed 24h, I assume that is sufficient this time too.

[P3D]

Now I have to ask for a 30h extension. Will try to submit earlier than the deadline, but I am just too busy this week.

And I do not want to disappoint the audiences scrying the shows :P

[Executor]

I will declare war on the next player that asks for a delay!:mad:

30h delay granted. :)


And I do not want to disappoint the audiences scrying the shows :P

What? I'd never!

[Festin]

That ninja never fails to surprise me.

[Dimaz]

What happened there, some sort of a bug? I didn't understand how the ninja managed to siege the castle.

[Executor]

Heh, would you look at that?
No bug, I set my troops to storm the fort, and left one commander with simargls to patrol it. He caught a few scouts along with the ninja, and than in the fight his shurikens killed the patrolling commander, and since I took the fort all the troops and commanders went inside since storming seems to happen before patrolling in turn order, so Jomons assassin took the province.

There's just one thing that seems like a minor bug. It seems all the scouts in the province are first caught and than battle follows randomly, which means even if your patrolling force loses the rest of the sneaking enemies will fight it out among themselves, as Gath? or someone attacked Jomons assassin in the end after my partoler was killed.

[Festin]

Yes, Patala's scout attacking the ninja was a nice finishing touch to the whole thing.

But I wonder if you are correct about the bug. Wouldn't such situations happen more often if what you say is true? I have never heard about sneaking units fighting each other.

By the way, the ninja is still shown as hiding. I did not know it was possible to maintain siege and hide at the same time.

[thejeff]

My scout certainly wasn't set to attack, so it does seem that patrolling all happens first. Which it does in the turn order. Doesn't make a lot of sense, but isn't likely to cause a lot of problems.

I believe sneakers who are caught but beat the patrollers are always still hiding, even though they take the province. Technically he's not sieging, but he is there which is apparently enough to keep control. Much like leaving a non-commander unit will keep control (and let you see what he tries to break siege with)

This is probably tied to the exploit that lets Pans or other stealthy summoners hold forts down indefinitely.

[arnob]

I will declare war on the next player that asks for a delay!:mad:




Hummm

Very sorry but i'll unable to play during a week ... No internet connection until Monday 21th !

Arnob

[Executor]

Err, arnob, if you wouldn't mind being a little more specific as from when you'll be needing the delay?

The current turn is about to host in a few hours, so can you can make the next turn before you lose internet connection so I delay the turn after the next one to save some time, or should I add a week to the timer as soon as this turn hosts?
I don't mind giving the delay, I just rather not add more time than needed.

[Executor]

At last, the damn ninja is dead!

Ugh, someone's gonna be mad when they see the battle reports from the central island...
Nicely done P3D.

[thejeff]

I assume we're delaying, since arnob hasn't played?

[Executor]

Indeed we are, I've added 168h to the clock.

[arnob]

I assume we're delaying, since arnob hasn't played?

Hello All,

Very very very sorry about this last time delay. I played my turn as soon as possible sunday evening !

Arnob

[thejeff]

I just got the 12 hour warning. I thought I'd sent it in long ago. I'll get it done as soon as I get home. I know I did some work on the turn...

Sorry for the extra delay.

[Executor]

P3D, I just noticed the stale, can I get a conformation you're still here?
Let me know if you need any extra time for the turns.

[P3D]

After all the delays I did not realize the turn was due so soon.:doh:

[P3D]

I won't have time to look at my turn before the deadline, need one more day.
Also, 3-hr extension to the turn timer would be welcome, so the deadline won't creep earlier and earlier.

[Executor]

Ok, time added and game delayed by 24h(+3).

[Executor]

The Aegis up for grabs!

[Samhain]

You're welcome ;)

[Dimaz]

Completely forgot about darkness. Stupid me.

[Samhain]

I have to admit, that wasn't the fight I was expecting either. I seem to be mastering the art of the Pyrrhic victory in this game.

[NooBliss]

Relax guys. Just send a spy to the middle and be thankful that you're not in my shoes. ;)

[thejeff]

I'm going to have to ask for another delay. Between having to work Saturday and other commitments I'm not likely to have time for anything but sleep...
One day will be enough.

I got a quick look at the turn this morning, but even that made me late to work. Curse the early morning turns!

[Executor]

24 hours have been added to the clock.


I got a quick look at the turn this morning, but even that made me late to work. Curse the early morning turns!

It wasn't a half bad turn there was it...;)

[thejeff]

No, that's part of why I had to see what happened.

On the other hand, I lost a large army last turn without doing much damage...

[P3D]

Hey, at least there were some commanders who did not ignore my spell script. Not that it really matters.

[thejeff]

Real Life is interfering again. I'm going to need another day.

Sorry

[Executor]

24h added.

[thejeff]

What would people think about changing the host interval to 3 days?
My turns are getting long and are about to get more complicated. I also don't have a lot of time to spend on this at the moment.

Or we can stick to the current schedule and I can ask for delays every couple of turns...

[Dimaz]

I don't mind 3 days, I like relaxed schedules as I have only about 1 hour/day for dom.

[Executor]

A 3 day hosting interval is probably better, I just got back to the university today after a months break so I'll have much less time for Dominions myself, and I might miss delay requests as the game hosts at a very inconvenient time for me here.

Hosting interval changed to 75h, and subsequently this turn delayed by 24h.

[P3D]

I am attending a previously unplanned workshop/conference.
Most probably I will submit my turn today (so it won't delay hosting time), but I'd welcome a 24-hr extension just in case.

[Executor]

Game delayed 24 hours, I kinda need the delay too.

[NooBliss]

/long sigh

[Executor]

Sorry about the additional 8h added on my behalf. Game about to host now.

[thejeff]

I'm going to have to ask for another delay. I've done nothing but work and sleep since Thursday.
One day might be enough, I'll post again tomorrow if it isn't.

Sorry for the hassle.

[Executor]

24h added.

[thejeff]

I've got to ask for another day. This can't last much longer, the deadline was yesterday :)

Sorry again.

[Samhain]

I love the sound deadlines make as they go whooshing past.

[Executor]

Ahm, okay, 24 hours added.

[thejeff]

One more day. I swear that's all.

I have to leave early tomorrow anyway. So I will have some time. After that it should be okay, at least for awhile.

[Executor]

You're like a junky, you just keep coming back for more and more! :)

No problem, 24 hours added.

[Executor]

1 Patala PD sliced my fully kitted Ember Lord open and gave him a limp, and they say monkey pd is crap...

[thejeff]

The deed of Goganu the Atevi Chieftan, standing alone and hamstringing the mighty Ember Lord shall be remembered long after Bogarus is forgotten.

[thejeff]

I'm going to need another extension. I should be able to get it done tonight, but that depends on how late I'm stuck here.

There doesn't seem to be any end in sight. I'm going to start looking for a sub. Even with extensions I don't have the time or brain-power left to do a good job. I've been basically reactive these last couple weeks, not able to do any real planning.

It's a shame, because this has been a good game and looks like it's shaping up to be a good endgame, but I just can't keep up with it.

[Executor]

I will add 24 hours to the clock for now.

Are you sure about the sub? We can add more time to the clock until you sort your RL stuff out if you're having problems.
I'd rather not lose you at this point, or any point for that matter.

We've entered the late stage of the game and a sub would unlikely perform as well as you would/have with Patala (subbing at this point can be rather hard).

Also, apologies for me being a paranoid admin, Arnob, Atlantis, are you still here with us?

[thejeff]

Paranoid admin is a good thing. This game has had less stales than any I've been in.

It wouldn't be hard to do better than I've been doing the last few turns. Everything's been pretty much running on autopilot, but the things I've been overlooking are starting to add up. Not starting gem carriers on their way in time, just forging a bunch of standard gear instead of figuring out what I'm really going to need, etc, etc

I'm not going to just disappear. Hopefully I can get someone with some experience and I can give him an info dump on what's been going on.

I've been going back and forth on this all weekend, but the game has just become one more source of stress that I really don't need. And I don't know how long work's going to be ridiculous. There's another big project coming up after this one.

[Executor]

Yes, this game has had but a few stales which is remarkable, and everybody seems determined to fight to the bitter end. On that part this is probably my favorite game so far.

Thanks for the heads up and not just disappearing, not that that can be helped sometimes when RL interferes.
Please let me know if you need help looking for a sub, also if you need more time to do the current turn. After the current turn I will delay the game until a suitable replacement is found for you.

Sorry to see you go, it's been a great game so far, and I've personally enjoyed watching all your battles with Gath. :)

[thejeff]

And I wound up working much later than I'd hoped again and just passed out when I got home.

Another extension please.

[Executor]

Game delayed, will stay so until I get a conformation from Atlantis too.

[Executor]

I've put another 24 hours up. Atlantis in nowhere to be found. He hasn't been active for a while on the forums and he's not responding to the admin email I've sent his either. We may need a sub for him as well.

[Executor]

thejeff, are you able to submit your turn?
I've added an additional 24 hours, yet again. Seeing how Atlantis is nowhere to be found I'll put up an add for a sub tomorrow rather than have Atlantis stale for the second time.

[Dimaz]

So, what are we going to do with 3 stales?

[Executor]

Luckily I managed to get home exactly 1 minute too late to postpone the hosting again...

I don't mind the stales personally, but in any case I certainly wouldn't recommend a rollback either. The real question is what are we going to do with Patala and Atlantis?

The sub threads have been up for a few days with no takers yet, somehow I doubt that's gonna change sadly. So, if anyone has any bright idea I'd like to hear them? Just setting them AI seems game breaking to me.

[Numahr]

I am now in charge of the holy nation of Atlantis.

[Executor]

Okay, looks like we've got new leadership for both Atlantis and Patala.
Numahr, rmcolosimo, thank you both for stepping in and welcome to the game.

[Dimaz]

OK, with 2 new players, what are our diplomatic relations then? I assume all existing treaties are cancelled, as usual.

[Numahr]

I am willing to consider continuity of treaties, while reserving the right to re-consider them. If you wish a treaty to be confirmed/continued, approach our chancellerie.

[NooBliss]

Can we have a 24-h extension?

[Executor]

Extension granted.

[P3D]

Can I get 6-hr extension? I could not do my turn during the weekend, I'd rather avoid rushing the turn.

[Dimaz]

Please add 24h for this turn.

[Executor]

Extension granted.

Jomon you cheeky bastard, leave my damn gold mines alone!

[Executor]

Thank you participating Samhain and fighting it out to the end.

Also, you must have really wanted that PoD dead Dimaz, that was a bit overkill...

[Dimaz]

He killed fully equipped tart cyclops last time with skellyspam&drain. I was really disappointed. So, I decided to be sure this time.

[Samhain]

That was a lot of fun. Thanks for the good game all.

[Dimaz]

Executor, that was an interesting turn of events :)

[Executor]

Not for me, I lost 2 Shishis!
You just couldn't attack someone else could you? ;)
My fault, I waited too long.

On another note, elixir of life should really restore fatigue to zero, and also, I got a wonky battle report and lost a damn Ember Lord.

[Numahr]

+101 gems not enough for Maelstrom... :(

My subbing function for Atlantis will really require creativity now! :rolleyes:

[Executor]

I have delayed the game 2 days for me, I'm likely to have some internet problems the next few days.

[Dimaz]

Please add another 24h for me.

[DarkAvenger211]

Can I join in as Abysia?

[DarkAvenger211]

ignore that. This was supposed to be in another thread :S

Sorry

[Dimaz]

Are we going to let Bogarus stale again? I think third stale can kill him.

[P3D]

We should ask llama to set a two-week delay instead of someone setting the clock back 48hr every two days.

When we get no news from Executor, then we should look for a sub.

[NooBliss]

Well... Dimaz for president?

[P3D]

I'd guess so.

[Dimaz]

BTW who is the game admin now? I'll need 48h delay for this turn.

[NooBliss]

So, do we have a sub for Bogarus? If not, there's no point to play any longer.

[Psycho]

I thought I'd be able to do it for a few turns, but there is no way. You should post a sub thread.

[Dimaz]

If Man and Gath agree to finish the game I agree too.

[P3D]

I'd agree to finish the game.

[NooBliss]

I am all for it. Not that it's dull (quite a fair amount of fighting and some nasty plans for the future), but with CTis getting such a big chunk of a free cheese resistance is futile, we will be assimilated.

So, Dimaz for president.

[Dimaz]

Can someone officially close the game, then?

[Numahr]

OK well poor Atlantis agrees with the game being over, if that matters for anyone ;)