MR cancel weapon effect + Penetration item

[Numahr]

I have read something about it somewhere, but I wanted to check my assumption was correct. So can anyone confirm that if

1. the wielder of a weapon with an effect canceled by MR (Star of Thraldom, ethereal crossbow, stone sword, etc.)

2. also wears magic penetration item (Eye of the Void etc.)

-> then the Penetration item applies to the weapon's effect?

As a side discussion, you may tell interesting experiences/ideas of such combinations. For example I am thinking of a couple of Caelum's simple A1 mages (for Aim) with etheral crossbows and Eyes of the Void, scripted on Fire at Large Monsters, as anti-SCs artillery in a balanced army, or anti-thug in combination with PD...

Thanks in advance

[kianduatha]

As an FYI, Ethereal Crossbows work surprisingly badly as anti-thug weapons for the simple reason that they're shield blockable. Piercers are a far better option because they are neither MR-resist nor shieldblock-able.

[Koral]

The answer to this thread is "No" pen bonus does not boost items.

[earcaraxe]

The answer to this thread is "No" pen bonus does not boost items.

what about remote spells, such as black mirror? do penetration items boost it?

[Knai]

The answer to this thread is "No" pen bonus does not boost items.

what about remote spells, such as black mirror? do penetration items boost it?

My tests with MA Arcocephale Mind Hunt spam* suggests that it does, and I think I've seen this confirmed on the site.

*Which sounds like a terrible idea, until you realize that Arcocephale has incredible healers, and can thus pull this off.

[Corinthian]

I strongly suspect from my tests that pen items boosts spells cast by the wielder of spell casting items. Like the Crown of Overmight. I had a GoRed gargoyle equipped with the crown and pen boosters and it succeeded much more often than it should have done unaided. It even captured a MR 22 SC after a number of castings.

[earcaraxe]

and what about soul vortex? does penetration items on the caster help its effectiveness?

[Squirrelloid]

Remember that at 0 penetration mr checks against 12, not 10. So, more often than expected should be baselined against that.

[earcaraxe]

so u say that +1 to penetration is really +3 to penetration in most cases?