Holy Nooby Rage! [Started]

[Talrivian]

I am starting up a new newb game. I would like players to have at least 1 game under their belt, but first timers are welcome too!

Age: Early Age
Map: Parganos (Llama's fix) (parganos_llama.map and parganos_llama.tga)
Hosting: 24 Hours and quickhost
Mods: None
Graphs: Off
Independents Strength: 7
Hall of Fame Entries: 15
Renaming: Allowed
Victory Condition: Last player standing, or until players agree who is the winner.
Diplomacy: All is fair in love and war!
Players: 8
Banned items: Items that generate gems or blood slaves, such as clams. (They turn the game into a cheese fest. Sorry, but perpetual energy breaks one of the fundemental rules of the universe, and thus the game.)

Please stay in the game until the end. If you have to leave, please let me know so that I can find a substitute to replace you.

The game is being hosted on llamaserver.net. Here is the link:

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=HolyNoobyRage

When the new patch is released, I am going to ask that everyone send in their turns using the 3.26 patch until llamaserver.net updates to 3.27. When llamaserver.net updates, it will send back the turns with 3.27 patch, and you should update to 3.27 to continue playing!

Players:

Talrivian - Hinnom
LongBrodie - Niefelheim
Thanatus del Dragos - Fomoria
Umsolfunolanis - Atlantis
Kuketski - Mictlan
Mojo the Avenger - Abysia
yugi24862 - Marveni
Korwin - Lanka

[LongBrodie]

Niefelheim!

[Thanatus del Dragos]

Fomoria

[Talrivian]

Welcome Thanatus del Dragos!

[Umsolfunolanis]

Hello, I would be happy to join as Atlantis. Will be my first game MP.
I have read a lot about CBM. I use it in Singleplayer. Any chance of playing with it in this game??

[kuketski]

i want to join as Lanka!

[Talrivian]

Hello, I would be happy to join as Atlantis. Will be my first game MP.
I have read a lot about CBM. I use it in Singleplayer. Any chance of playing with it in this game??

Sorry Umsolfunolanis, but this game will not be using the CBM mod. CBM changes MANY things about the game, and I believe it is better for a new player to get used to the vanilla version first before deciding which one to play.

While CBM does make some nice changes, it also makes many changes that I do not agree with and that I consider very subjective and absurd and that have NOTHING to do with balance. Therefore, in my hosted games, I will not be using the CBM mod.

I believe that while some of the races have an advantage in tactical options, and it is easier for them to develop a powerful strategy, all races can still be viable in Vanilla. They just need an intelligent player to find something good about them.

By the way, I am changing some rules for this game, so read the first post again to see if you agree or disagree with the changes.

[Umsolfunolanis]

Ok, im fine with vanilla. Im in.

[Mojo the Avenger]

I'd like to play. Abysia.

[kuketski]

i havent played vanilla SP for a month or two, need to rebalance my pretender and starting build before we start.
Can i change nation if i wont be satisfied with vanilla monkey-demons?

[Talrivian]

Of course, no problem.

[kuketski]

After thinking about nations and pretenders, i`ve decided to switch my nation choise to R`lieh so that our Atlantis mate wont be lonely in sea =)

[Umsolfunolanis]

From the deepest crevices of the sea I see evil tidings arise.
A lonely place the sea should be..
and never two pretenders may dwell there free!

[kuketski]

Atlantians make nice slaves...once lobotomized!

There can be only one sea pretender!

p.s lets hope we dont start in water province on east, thats surrounded by land!

[yugi24862]

I'll join as Marveni. The map seems a bit big though, with 6 land nations on 220 provinces! Thats almost 36 provinces per land player, which seems a bit big to me. Mabye we could move to a smaller map like The Desert Eye?

[Mojo the Avenger]

I assume gem generators are fair game?

[Talrivian]

I'll look at the maps when I get home, and choose one that's smaller, or I can increase the amount of players to 10.

Also, if you read the first post, you'll see that I said no gem generators. They ruin the game, and turn it into a stupid cheese fest.

[Mojo the Avenger]

Oh I completely missed that. Awesome. I wasn't looking forward to that part of vanilla.

[kuketski]

if you consider taking smaller map, plz keep in mind that we have 2 aquatic nations and that big bad Atlantis already sharpens his teeth predatorily looking at my poor innocent mind slaving nation!

If water will be too tight for us two, one of us will be forced to march on land!

P.S. Umsolfunolanis and all other participants, plz turn on private messaging!

[kuketski]

After some calculations i come to decision, that if Talrivian will pick an other map with small sea area, ill play Mictlan.

in small sea area i`ll have to fight Umsolfunolanis from the very start or else we`ll be falling behind in territory. And if battle occures, whoever wins will be weakened and still falling behind.

[Umsolfunolanis]

Cowering in fear allready? The sea belongs to Atlantis either way...

Since im fairly new to Dominions I have a question about gem generators. Will they be blocked so I cant accidentaly forge them or do I have to pay attention to that?
Are we talking about any artifact that produces gems?

[Korwin]

Not shure if I count as Newbie. What definition is used in this game?
If its, never won an game, I count. And would choose Lanka (or Sauromantia).

Edit: There are items who generate blood slaves? Or is the sanguine rod meant?

[kuketski]

Fear?? Ha! I just dont want to sit in a murky puddle after you run to land, shivering in fear that remaining of your underlings will fall before might of my commander`s mind!

I`d like a nice water space, lets say 1/4 of provinces, as there are 2 aquatic nations of 8! What fo you think?

[Talrivian]

Ok! Some changes!

The map has been changed to Parganos (Llama's fix). I have uploaded the map as an attachment on to the first post of this thread.

Kuketski: You have been changed to Mictlan.
Korwin: You are our eigth player!

When I say no gem generation items, I mean exactly that:

No items that generate gems passively every turn. An example would be "clams", which generate astral pearls, and "fever fetishes", which generate fire gems.

There is no way that I can disable these items, so I will just expect everyone to abide by these rules through an honor system.

Since I will be the administrator for this game, I will have the power to enforce rules against exploits by use of the Master Admin Password, which will let me remove any cheating players from the game. Of course, I will not abuse this power without a vote from all of the other players first.

So, if there are no objections, let's begin this game! Start designing your pretenders, download the map, and upload them so that we can get this show on the road! The name of the game on llamaserver.net is the same as this forum thread:

HolyNoobyRage

[Mojo the Avenger]

Is this the same version currently linked from llama's maps and mods browser?

[Talrivian]

Not the one at the top of the list, no. It's the one listed at the bottom of the list. But the link there is broken, so I uploaded it here.

It is REALLY confusing because there are like 341,438,943,488versions of that map floating around.

If you guys want, wait for me to message llamabeast so that I can figure out which version is the correct one.

[Mojo the Avenger]

It's fine I'll download yours. I just don't have a .7z program on my computer and grumble grumble whine whine

[Talrivian]

Ok, I just found out that you don't need the .map file, only the image file. So, just download the zip file that I attached to the post, and upload your pretenders!

[kuketski]

Nice! I`ll add link t our game just in case

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=HolyNoobyRage

Ill upload my pretender in 7 hours! And lest dip the world in blood!

[Mojo the Avenger]

Any chance we could get that link in the OP for convenience?

[Talrivian]

Done!

[Mojo the Avenger]

anyone else submit like six different pretenders?

[kuketski]

We`re waiting for

LongBrodie - Niefelheim
Thanatus del Dragos - Fomoria

LongBrodie and Thanatus del Dragos, plz, upload your pretenders!

[LongBrodie]

Sorry for the delay. I work rotating 12 hour shifts and I was totally pooped this week. I like to take my time with pretender design (I have an unusual design for Niefelheim this time around) and I just didn't have the time or energy or really get into it until now... But now I'm done and ready to go! :D

[kuketski]

I`ve just recieved first turn! GAME STARTED!!!

[Talrivian]

Good luck to everyone!!!

[kuketski]

Talrivian, could you turn on Reminder e-mails?
it can be very handy to fasten turn sendings!

[Talrivian]

No problem, done!

And the verb should be "quicken", not "fasten". "Fasten" means to attach something or make something secure, like a seat belt or a harness, or maybe a hair pin.

:p

[llamabeast]

While CBM does make some nice changes, it also makes many changes that I do not agree with and that I consider very subjective and absurd and that have NOTHING to do with balance

Since I have recently taken over maintaining the CBM mod, I would love to hear what you don't like about it. The aim is for it to be both good and unobjectionable (if that is possible!).

[Talrivian]

Llamabeast, I have sent you a private message.

[Korwin]

While CBM does make some nice changes, it also makes many changes that I do not agree with and that I consider very subjective and absurd and that have NOTHING to do with balance

Since I have recently taken over maintaining the CBM mod, I would love to hear what you don't like about it. The aim is for it to be both good and unobjectionable (if that is possible!).

The reason why I don't sign up on CBM games, is the many many undocumendet changes.
I am still grappling with vanilla, here at least I can look it up.
The other reason for not liking CBM is: it changes so fast.

[Mojo the Avenger]

llamaserver didnt send me my second .trn

[Talrivian]

Mojo, I am having the server send your turn again. If you ever need to, you can go to the game on llamaserver.net and click on "request turn resend".

I have postponed the automatic hosting by 8 hours to give you time.

[Mojo the Avenger]

Thanks a lot. Don't worry about postponing it though. I'm playing my turn right now.

[Korwin]

Me too, use the resend option: http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAction.cgi?game=HolyNoobyRage&action=resend

Edit: Ups, Ninjaed

[kuketski]

Looks like Thanatus del Dragos is stalling...

He`s stalling in NewPlayersRumble game too, where im admin =(

[Korwin]

Sub, AI or restart?

[The Kurgan]

If you decide to restart, I would like to be your 8th. I am in two other MP games that are on the early turns and I get my turns right in. I only have a short internet blackout this weekend for about 36 hours visiting relatives. :p

If you decide you want a sub after 4 turns for Fomoria, I will have to think on that (since I am not a fan of Fomoria).

Just let me know. :)

[Talrivian]

If he stales anymore, I will set him to AI. Or the Kurgan can sub.

[kuketski]

If he stales anymore, I will set him to AI. Or the Kurgan can sub.

Looks like Thanatus is back!

[kuketski]

!WARNING!

First stale datected!
http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAction.cgi?game=HolyNoobyRage&action=showstales

Thanatus has staled this turn!

[Mojo the Avenger]

so who's the lucky guy that gets two starting capitals?

[Talrivian]

What are you referring to Mojo?

[Mojo the Avenger]

I was referring to the staling, but it looks like thanatus is back.

Also you would think abysia would be immune to their lab burning down, what with being born in a volcano.

[Talrivian]

Haha, you have a point there, Mojo. I guess Abysia ran out of metal since all of their soldiers wear heavy armor and had to use wood. :P

[yugi24862]

Just a note to everyone, Himmon is rushing me (marveni), with chariots. This would be a nice time to plunge into his backside if you border him.

[Umsolfunolanis]

Hinnom really shouldn't do that! Invading the peacefull druids with those ugly chariots.

But fear not Marveri, for my Basalt Kings are discussing at this very moment on what action to take...

[Umsolfunolanis]

5 Heroes in the Hall of Fame! Whohooo! Some serious butt kicking going on..

[Umsolfunolanis]

Whats up with the game hosting? On the llamaserver page it says Next turn due: 15:15 GMT on Friday July 15th but the server was last updated at 20:20 GMT on Friday July 15th, so the new turn should have been hosted, right?
Didnt't anyone else notice this?

[Umsolfunolanis]

I've had a weird thing with movement. Maybe someone can explain this to me?

I tried to attack a province owned by Hinnom from two of my provinces simultaniously, but only the army out of my water province moved onto land and attacked. My main army which was on the land also had the move order (I double checked that), but they just did't move.

What could have caused this?

[Umsolfunolanis]

I'm a bit worried about Talrivian - Hinnom. He has staled the last 5 turns.
Whats going on?

[Mojo the Avenger]

Maybe his chariot push ran out of steam and he gave up

[Umsolfunolanis]

Well, he is the game admin. So atleast he should let everyone know whats going on. Or let someone else admin the game.

[Korwin]

What the Admin is MIA? Not good...

[Mojo the Avenger]

Anyone else get this: Sorry, this isn't a real game. Have you been messing with my URL?

from here: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=HolyNoobyRage

[Umsolfunolanis]

It seems like the admin just set the game to finished. Not really a nice thing to do without asking the other players if they want to go on. :mad:

At least he could have asked someoneelse to be the admin.

[Mojo the Avenger]

It was just getting interesting too. Oh well, gg errybody.

[Umsolfunolanis]

If you are looking for a new game, there is one starting right here: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=455