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Thierry
August 3rd, 2011, 03:38 PM
Hi !

Is there a way to know for which weapons and attacks the bless operates ?

For instance :
- Monster attacke (suppose I put a holy shroud on a summoned monster for instance) ?
- Magical bow on a blessed commander (I'd like to try the bow that fires 13 arrows...)
- Special troops like LA Tien Chin ancestor bows.

I tried the later and it doesn't seem the fire bless did something for LA Tien Chin.


The same question arises for death bless. Are the conditions the same ? I seem to remember that some (all ?) spells that dealt damage could be enhanced by death bless.

Thanks for your insights and sorry for my (bad) english !

Thierry
August 3rd, 2011, 04:05 PM
Same question for the spell that turns your arrows in fire...

llamabeast
August 4th, 2011, 05:48 AM
Fire arrows is relatively easy - there is a list of weapons which are affected, and no others are. I don't know the list offhand, but it includes most things you would want it to - short bows, long bows, composite bows, slingstones (I think), I think even thrown boulders. Notably it does not include poison bows, nor any magical bows.

Fire bless doesn't affect missile weapons. I *think* that Death bless also doesn't give the 2 AN damage on missile weapons, but it certainly does give the affliction bonus (in fact the affliction bonus applies even to spells cast by sacred mages!). Consequently a hail of arrows from death-blessed LA T'ien Chi sacreds will absolutely mess up elite enemies, giving them huge amounts of afflictions. I'm familiar with this from the sacred Asp Archers in my Tomb Kings mod nation - they are also sacred, and giving them a death bless is an effective strategy. Particularly good against e.g. giants, where there are small numbers of troops and afflictions are very bad news.

Deathblob
August 4th, 2011, 08:49 AM
Flaming Arrows does work with the Bow of War:

Fire Arbalest
Fire Boulder
Fire Bow of War
Fire Chakram
Fire Composite Bow
Fire Crossbow
Fire Javelin
Fire Long Bow
Fire Short Bow
Fire Shuriken
Fire Sling
Fire Small Bow

llamabeast
August 4th, 2011, 12:09 PM
Awesome. In recent versions of CBM the Bow of War has an increased number of arrows as well - probably pretty effective with a fire bless! :)

Raiel
August 4th, 2011, 01:18 PM
Awesome. In recent versions of CBM the Bow of War has an increased number of arrows as well - probably pretty effective with a fire bless! :)

Are you sure Fire bless applies to ranged weapons? I thought it was just the D bless that did...

Korwin
August 4th, 2011, 04:04 PM
He is Talking about Flaming Arrows, not the bless.

llamabeast
August 4th, 2011, 06:28 PM
Yes I am. D'oh!

Soyweiser
August 5th, 2011, 08:38 AM
Flaming Arrows does work with the Bow of War:

Fire Arbalest
Fire Boulder
Fire Bow of War
Fire Chakram
Fire Composite Bow
Fire Crossbow
Fire Javelin
Fire Long Bow
Fire Short Bow
Fire Shuriken
Fire Sling
Fire Small Bow

wow thanks.

Could you tell me how you got this information?

llamabeast
August 5th, 2011, 10:52 AM
Searching for "Fire" in Edi's database would be one way of doing it.

Deathblob
August 5th, 2011, 06:49 PM
That's exactly right, thank you.

His database can be found in his signature.

rdonj
August 5th, 2011, 08:01 PM
It's times like this I feel like the entire first page of this forum could be stickies, there's so many special case rules for this game and it seems one of them is asked every other week.

Soyweiser
August 6th, 2011, 11:31 AM
Keep posting stuff, and I'll put it up on the wiki.

I found this on the SA forums, if you escape from being lost in time and space, and you have S magic, you have a chance of getting one more.

I assume this works the same as escaping from kokytus etc.