Morla LA noob game (ended, winner:shatner)

[Morla]

I am going to start a new game, this time LA, too much free time=less money :D

"MorlaLAnoob: Declare game finished

Are you really really super sure? The game's definitely over?

Yes, shatner is the winner."

The game it´s up in llamaserver. Name "MorlaLAnoob", you can send your pretenders.

-Noobs
-MA 8 players
-Map: Land of Legends (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=43144)
-Mods: cbm 1.92
-Diplo:RESPECT the trades, and respect the non agression pacts(but we are humans after all).
-i am thinking: i dont want to play agaist ermor/ryleh, sorry those nations are banned.

-Game settings:
-HOF 15
-rename enabeled
-rest by default(magic site frecuncy 45?)
-winning condition: 5 capitals for 3 turns

-hosting schedule, llamaserver
36h+quickhost, it will increase as the game advance

i´ll play with Jomon, maybe Ulm

PLAYERS:

Morla- Jomon
shatner- Atlantis
triqui- Marignon
Ossa- C'tis
TigerBlood- Bogarus
krpeters- Utgård
Terran- Pythium
StMika- Ulm

[shatner]

I'll give LA Atlantis a go. I've never played a water nation to good effect so I figure this is my one chance to play a water nation that starts out on land.

[Morla]

oohhh, nice

[triqui]

I'll go with Marignon :)

[Morla]

good, gooood.

[arnob]

I would like to try Patala please !

Arnob

[Morla]

arnob, nice :)

[Ossa]

I'm no newb, but defenitly not a good player. May I join anyway?

If so - Ctis plz.

[Morla]

Ossa, welcome.

[TigerBlood]

Pencil me in for Bogarus please. I don't want to commit to too many games, or they will all suffer. I'll let you know if my availability changes.

[Morla]

TigerBlood, welcome.

[krpeters]

Since I'm not losing fast enough in my other game, I'd like to try to lose here. Is there still room for a bad player for Utgard? I want to see if nether bolt flinging Seithkona can do any damage.

[Terran]

I want to take Pythium, if its still avaiable :)

[Morla]

krpeters, Terran, welcome.

[shatner]

I noticed the little question mark by my name so I'll go ahead and agree to this game in earnest. Looking forward to playing something completely different than T'ien Ch'i.

[Morla]

XD, ok. question mark removed :D

[Morla]

OK, we are 8 players, arnob sorry i thought i added you but it seems i didn´t :doh: .

the Map: Land of Legends (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=43144).

what do you think if i increase the magic site frecuency to 45, i like a little more magic in games.

tomorrow i´ll upload the game to llamaserver, the name would be "MorlaLAnoob". until then you can change nations and make suggestions to the game settings.

[triqui]

I sent the pretender to MorlaLAnoob and got it bounced back :/

[Morla]

The game it´s up in llamaserver. Name "MorlaLAnoob", you can send your pretenders.

[Terran]

Ok!

[Terran]

Sent

[krpeters]

I just realized, I'm going on vacation Oct 12, I won't have internet access for a week. What should I do? Let someone else have my game slot? Start and look for a temp sub? Stale for 7 days?

[TigerBlood]

I'm not sure what is going on. A long stale early game would probably be a bad idea, in my opinion. I don't mind starting later, but my (limited) experience is that week long breaks tend to kill games that are in progress.

Happy to respect any decision though.

[triqui]

If you can find a temp sub that'd be great. other than that, it's probabaly better to delay :/

[krpeters]

nonono, don't delay the start of the game on my account, that would be silly, the game will never get off the ground if you wait that long. It sounds like the best thing to do would be just find someone else for spot 8 altogether since we haven't started yet.

Sorry about all this, I wasn't thinking when I saw the looking for players post.

[Terran]

Then?

We look for another player or we start and the stops?

[triqui]

I vote to start. Then we can search for a temp sub, he is out 1 week, that's 3-4 turns.

[Terran]

I vote for start too

[Morla]

I agree with triqui. Let´s start, find a temp sub and continue playing.

I´ll send my pretender (tricky for Jomon) in a few hours. And let´s hope for a sub :D

[krpeters]

OK, my pretender is in. Sorry about causing the confusion.

[TigerBlood]

Arnob?

[Morla]

I PM arnob, no answer. So i´ll wait till tomorrow, we can start the 7 of us, or look for another player.

[Morla]

:cold: the game started by itself, so be it. :D

[Morla]

arnob are you ulm? who is ulm?

[Ossa]

puh... send in my wrong pretender:( Anyway, I'll try my best...

[krpeters]

I see everyone sent in their turn; shouldn't it host now? It looks like Quickhost is set...

[shatner]

I sent llamabeast a PM about this; this isn't the only game that seems to be having issues. Hopefully this will all be fixed swiftly and without undue work on llamabeast's part.

[Morla]

shatner thx, i am about to do the same. :)

[shatner]

Just a heads up, llamaserver was having troubles which seem to have passed. However, I never received my turn 2 file and had to manually request it resent to me. If you didn't receive turn 2 either, you should probably do the same.

[triqui]

Yep, I did not recieve it too, thanks for the advice

[triqui]

:/
Ah, bold tactics have risks, I guess :(

[Terran]

Turn1:

Assasin agains my prophet. LoL

[Terran]

War!

[krpeters]

I hate my scouts.

"A handful of hydra hatchlings approach", ok, some troops reinforced by PD can handle those, I'll go swat Jomon for a bit.

Nine hydras show up. Oh. Ooops.

Pythium, those heads you see on poles as you approach? Yes, those are my scouts.

[triqui]

I hate my scouts.

"A handful of hydra hatchlings approach", ok, some troops reinforced by PD can handle those, I'll go swat Jomon for a bit.

Nine hydras show up. Oh. Ooops.

Pythium, those heads you see on poles as you approach? Yes, those are my scouts.

Well, 9 are a handful. Or two handful :P

[shatner]

Hey Marignon, nice capital. We'll take it! Sure, we took two of your provinces + hold your capital under siege, but I'm sure those three overtaxed provinces you took from us were worth just as much... right?

Don't worry though, it'll take us at least another turn, maybe two, to tear down the walls. It's not like your army is way down south separated by slowing terrain and distance. Oh wait...

[TigerBlood]

Bogarus wishes to inform the heathens nations of the world that their plans for expansion are about to be realised.

Any nations that wish to placate the Red Army with diplomatic posturing should send their proposed terms and conditions for non-aggression pacts now.

Oppose Us and We will break you.

[triqui]

I'm still wondering where those armies come from. I thought you weren't adjacent :/

[shatner]

I'm still wondering where those armies come from. I thought you weren't adjacent :/

Since this is a noob game, in the interest of good sportsmanship I'll explain.

Attached is a screenshot (heavily cropped to protect the innocent and guilty alike) of my move on the previous turn (turn 12). My forces are amphibious so they were chilling in province 100 in the bottom right. That province is connected, via the river, to the water province in the top left (province 146), which is itself adjacent to 139, your capital.

Sailing, which my commander has, allows him to move himself and all his troops over adjacent water province A and onto any land province adjacent to A... so over 146 and onto 139. Note that when sailing you must end your move in a land province and that you can sail over precisely one and only one intervening water province.

Normally people are sailing from one land province onto another land province divided by a water province. However, the sailing mechanic doesn't actually care whether the province you are originating from is land or water. This rarely comes up because there are no commanders with sailing and amphibious... except LA Atlantis' capital-only mage, the Angakok.

In many ways, LA Atlantis is a pretty narrow, uninspiring nation. However, they do have some cool perks, this being one of them.


Edit: Also, Booya! Surprise naval assault!

[shatner]

Finally, since water provinces tend to be very large (and therefore be adjacent to a lot of other provinces), sailing can sometimes allow moves that are as far or farther than if you had flying. And, unlike most forms of flying, sailing allows you to take all your troops with you. Also, you can't fly over water anyway.

[Anaconda]

lol, this was interesting indeed.

[triqui]

Thank you for the explanation!
Well, as you might suppose, that took my defense strategy by surprise storm, and now I'm pretty close to doomed.

I like Sailing, one of the things I like from Marignon. However I was used to sailing in Sailing ships, not submarines :P

But I've learned a neat trick, which is nice ;)

[krpeters]

Just to let you all know, I'm heading out on vacation 10/13, I'll be back 10/19. Does anyone know of a sub willing to take over for a bit?

[Morla]

Try and create a thread.

Pastenna party, new province for me, and then my fellow Bogus appears out of nowhere...lucky day

[krpeters]

What is the story with subbing in a game you are playing? Over on another thread, they are talking about copy protection issues. I was thinking since Marginon is kind of toast, and on the opposite side of the map from me anyway, it would be relatively harmless if he subbed for me for a week.

[triqui]

If I submit a turn with my computer it will give an error msg. It will consider that I'm using a pirated game.copy. If I do your turn, I cant do mine.

I can sub you for a couple of turns if you want. I'm already dead, I'm just doing turns and not stalling so you dont have to wait 36h. Give me a PM with a few indications (such as what ti research).

[shatner]

Can't the administrator make Marignon AI and then make triqui's email address the one for Utgård allowing him to submit turns? Then once krpeters gets back, the admin changes the email address for Utgård back and we're back on as usual.

I've read it is considered acceptable to go AI in MP games once your capital has been sacked.

[Morla]

I can do it, Marignon only have 2 provinces left.

Triqui if you are already ended, we can do this if krpeters accepts.

Triqui let me know when you set your nation(marignon)to AI, and then i can make your email address the one for Utgård without copy protection issues.

[krpeters]

I'm still not sure I understand the copy protection situation. If the server sends Triqui a turn for Utgard, does it still have my CD-key stamp?

Anyway, yes, I suppose now is a good time to flip over control. I just swatted half the hydras heading my way, Triqui should be able to take care of the other half :)

[triqui]

No. The problem is that my computer do have the cdkey stamp when I send turns from my PC. If i send my Marignon turn and also send Utgard turn from it, the server would reject it, becouse it is receiving turns from 2 players that have the same CDkey.

At least that is how I understand it

[Morla]

OK figure it out:

First triqui should go AI the turn before he starts playing Utgård.

Secon triqui has to have a different directory structure for the dom3 install, different path than krpeters.

Then he can be ready to sub, and don´t leak info on Utgård :D

[Terran]

Nice battle by the way :D

****ing Wyvern, I almost killed it :(

[triqui]

I went AI.

[triqui]

Just to note, I didn't get the Utgaard turn

[krpeters]

Ahhhh -- so the server is smart enough to not let one person play multiple nations -- preventing him from ganging up on the other players. OK, that makes sense, thanks!

[krpeters]

Triqui, if you go to http://www.llamaserver.net/doAdminAction.cgi?game=MorlaLAnoob&action=resend , you can have the turn sent to you. I've received notification the email has changed. Did you go AI on turn 20 or 21? I hope you can play the turn.

[triqui]

I can play this turn, I already went AI. That's why I got no turn (not even Marignon). Will take the resend now.

[triqui]

I've tried to resend twice, got no turn. Can you check the email address, Morla?

[Morla]

triqui i need your e-mail to Change krepters e-mail address for yours and then you can play as utgard.

Krepters i did´t change your e-mail, wierd

[triqui]

poor hydras :P

[krpeters]

"poor hydras", I like the sound of that. Did they get eaten properly?

[triqui]

all 16 of them :P
Will send you a PM, to ask you a few things about diplomacy and goals

[shatner]

Did you capture any alive? There's good eatin' on hydras, and best of all they grow back any pieces you chop off 'em (http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0326.html (www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0326.html)).

[triqui]

Did not. But I guess Pythium is going to build a few more :/

[Terran]

:(

I am figthing C'tis and Utgard at the same time. Utgard has a pretender with 480hp that regenerates 48hp each turn! :eek:

Request help from any peaceful nation in the world :(

[triqui]

Yep, you are in a bad position right now. Same one Utgaard was facing 2 turns a go (was facing both you and Jomon)

[Terran]

Well, sooner or later, C'Tis will overrun my castle, so if there is anyone in the world that does not want that to happen, please help!

[Ossa]

Jomon and Ctis have formed a defensive alliance. Any attack on our oversized brothers will be met in kind.

[triqui]

Lol.
You mean Jotun? :P

[Morla]

XDDD, it´s Jotun

[Morla]

I just found a magic site that allows me to recruit wild ettins for 0 gold 1 resource, its a bug, so i am not going to recruit them, i hope you do the same.

[shatner]

Yeah, that bug has been posted on the CBM thread. It's a unit id typo. Good on you for not exploiting it.

[Ossa]

Well, then Jotun. Damn, I was imagening pretty jomonese girls to come to our palace. It will be jotunese girls then:(

[triqui]

Will say them to shave :)

[Terran]

****ing undying Wyvern!!!

3 afflictions (blindless, sorry for that :P), but I couldnt kill it because the ****ing HP regen. And 2 horror helmets :S

The peaceful nation of Pytium still ask for help. Utgard now has another castle near my capital, and and almost unkillable SC.

If they overrum me, they will rule half of the map with the help of C'tis!

Help!

[triqui]

It was already blind before the battle. It got blinded in a battle with CTis last turn Actually the three afflictions are from before this battle, which is the first one he is wearing gear :/. He wasn't wounded that heavy this turn.
Would it be properly geared from the begining, and things would had been different, maybe.

PS: If it wouldn't be blind, he would be wearing 2 horned helmets :P

[krpeters]

It sounds like Triqui has been doing pretty well in my absence... I wonder if I should just let him keep going :)

[triqui]

Actually this turn got much worse :P
Jomon finally attacked, and took down the main army and the capitol. Will be probably impossible to survive that assault. It'll depend on external help probably, Jomon has really too much edge on research and gem generation compared to Utgaard.

However, yes, your nation is quite better than 10 turns ago :). We are sieging Pytium capitol, got most of their provinces, and now have 3 castles. :). Not bad I guess :)

PS: Morla should change the player control back to krpeters

[Morla]

To return the player control back to krpeters , i just need krpeters e-mail, just PM me.

[krpeters]

Trading Utgaard for Pythium? Hrrrmmm... well, it still beats being eaten by Hydras, yes :)

[Morla]

krpeters is back playing as Utgard.

triqui thx for subbing Utgard, i really apreciate it.

[triqui]

Krpeters should ask for a resend of the turn.

[Terran]

Pythium is not dead yet ;)

[triqui]

Never said so :P
Actually it looks better than 1 turn ago, given that Utgaard couldn't move their real armies to the north due to the Jomon threat (which happen to be very true).

However it was a fun war while it lasted. Nice game. Good luck to those that keep playing, do an AAR from time to time, it'll be nice to read how is the thing going :)

[triqui]

Never said so :P
Actually it looks better than 1 turn ago, given that Utgaard couldn't move their real armies to the north due to the Jomon threat (which happen to be very true).

However it was a fun war while it lasted. Nice game. Good luck to those that keep playing, do an AAR from time to time, it'll be nice to read how is the thing going :)

[krpeters]

For future reference... parking a pretender on an enemy capitol negates the HP advantage severely :(

[Terran]

I killed that ***** at least!!! :D

[shatner]

Atlantis would like to congratulate Bogarus on being stubborn in the face of invasion. Our forces have rolled over them like a tidal wave, ruining all in their path... except the Bogarus capital. That the Bogarusians (Bogarusites? Bogarusaurus?) have managed to hold against two of our assaults. The first victory was a feather in Bogarus' cap for making clever and effective use of their mages. The second victory is more a feather in Atlantis' dunce cap for failing to change up our tactics. Oh well; there's always number 3.

[Terran]

I think that Jomon will win this game and overrun all of us.

Look at stats :S

[Morla]

two words, Bane fire. Damm c´tis.

Ossa PM are better than ingame messages, why you didn´t use them?

[Ossa]

Ahrrr... I beg to differ.

Jomonese cavalry has serious problems with banefire spam or dragons (real dragons, that is).

[Ossa]

I just didnt know what to answer to your proposual, and then the turn happened, and you attacked me;) So the dicision was taken out of my hand...

[Morla]

i´ll stop hostilities against your nation, i don´t want to start another war. I think that you will atack me because i attacked Utgard, and you dindn´t answer my proposal.I am open for peace negotiations.

This is just a misunderstanding.

[Terran]

I think that looking Jomon stats, there is little hope if C'tis make peace with them....

If Jomon overrun Utgard, then I will be killed too, and then, they will win.

And Atlantis what are they doing?

[shatner]

And Atlantis what are they doing?

Tearing down Bogarus' walls and preparing to commit premeditated deicide when we get our moist hands on their god.

Why, what do you think we should be doing?


P.S.: Also, let us know if you want to trade gems for either other gems or for gold.

P.S.S.: If you log in and go to http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/profile.php?do=editoptions you can enable private messaging which will make diplomacy and the like so much easier.

[Terran]

Done (the private messaging).

For now, I need all my gems to make troops to repelish Utgard.

[krpeters]

Don't know if you noticed, but Utgaard is slightly dead at the moment.

[Terran]

Don't know if you noticed, but Utgaard is slightly dead at the moment.

Where is your ally, C'tis?

[krpeters]

Well, considering what I was up against, I didn't do too badly there. Anyway, I'm out.

[Ossa]

Argh... dont give in so easily. Help is on the way!

[krpeters]

"don't give in so easily", lol, I have no castles, no troops, and half a dozen provinces. What am I going to do, defeat him with woodsmen archers?

[TigerBlood]

Atlantis may be imposing when launching surprise attacks without warning or declaration.

However, Eostr is giving them an education in Shock and Awe. A thank you would be nice...

[shatner]

Ha! I see what you did there... because your god casts lightning! And has awe! Ohhh man... All snarkiness aside, you've handled your defense well. Kudos. But this war ain't over yet, punk.

[TigerBlood]

I'm seeing that Atlantis has spent at least 2000 gold and 80 gems on a war they are not even close to winning. By all means, send more flying froggies to their deaths. Bogarus is already ankle deep in their thin blood.

On another note, the Sea Creatures Belong In The Sea Fund (S.C.B.I.T.S.F) has just been opened by Bogarus. We call upon all land nations to please send Gold, Gems and Items to help put Atlantis back in their place. Think of the childen!

[shatner]

Don't get so cocky. You were lucky when my troops routed inches from your last surviving mages and you were lucky when your god woke up the turn before I left a greasy stain where your capital used to be. You've handled yourself well and I've certainly made my fair share of mistakes and then some, but this ain't over.

I'm seeing that Atlantis has spent at least 2000 gold and 80 gems on a war they are not even close to winning.

Sooo... I've spent less than one turn's income on forces you have not so much killed as scared repeatedly off the battlefield and you're hanging up the mission accomplished banner? You're down to 1 unsieged fort and fully 4/5s of your forces are dead. Your line on the research chart has been flat for half a dozen turns. You aren't winning... you just aren't losing as fast as you could be.

Congratulations?

[TigerBlood]

Scripting is not luck. Your troops routed because of a battlefield enchantment and because they ran though some clouds and into some AoE's like good little froggies. Your thug investment was entirely predictable and a waste of gems.

You've been telling me my demise is imminant for the last 3 turns, so make it happen...If you can.

Meanwhile, other nations have not bitten off more than they can chew. How many more turns will you waste on this fruitless endeavor before you realise attacking Bogarus was a Bad Move?

[Morla]

XD, Bane fire...Bane fire. Solar Brilliance, isn´t too effective. Ahh c´tis, bad call attacking you, but this war is really fun. And don´t recruit wild ettins :D

[Terran]

Really nice dragon C'Tis.

You dont have anything better to do with it? :doh:

[Ossa]

Ah... it went astray. Our handlers believe it wants to mate with one of your hydras, it seems to suffer from a personality disorder.

[Terran]

By the way... how did you get it? Did you summon it? its a national spell? Its the first time I see it.

Its really unfair by the way, first part of the game I dealt with the undying Wyvern, now with a unstoppable 3-head dragon. Cool. :(

[Morla]

The Zmey it´s part of CBM 1.92, includes Endgame Diversity Mod( http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=45056 )

[Terran]

Well, thats Dominion :p

I will die in flames :angel

[TigerBlood]

I staled. Oh well. Set my nation to AI please.

[Morla]

OK, you have to do it, in game set your nation to AI and send your turn file, thx for telling us.

[Terran]

Pfff, please if you are not going to play, put your nation in AI, so we dont need to wait until end of turn!!! :mad:

[shatner]

If Bogarus' player forgot or is indisposed, I believe the admin can force the turn to host.

[Morla]

He said he will go AI, i am going to force host.

Done

[TigerBlood]

What the?

For future reference there is an admin option to set a nation to AI. Sorry for any inconvenience.

[TigerBlood]

I recreated the game folder and manually set the nation to computer controlled. Again, sorry for the delay. I assumed it would be faster for the admin to do it.

[Morla]

NP:),

Set a nation to AI

The procedure is this:

1) Ask the player playing the dying nation to set themselves to AI. Many players fail to do so simply because they don't realise they're meant to set their nations to AI when they want to stop playing. If you ask them to, there's a good chance they will.

2) If that fails, you need to either do it yourself, or ask some trusted member of the community to do it. The disadvantage of doing it yourself is that you will see the position of the dying nation and its neighbours, which is a bit dodgy. Finding someone else to do it is a hassle though. I recommend asking someone else from that game who's already been knocked out, or else someone random you've played with before. If you always ask me or Gandalf, we will go mad.

3) Having found someone to set the nation to AI, you need to get the player's turn to them. To do that, change the nation's e-mail address to that player's address, and request a turn resend from the main game page. They then need to open the turn up in Dominions, set the player to AI and e-mail the resulting 2h file back to the LlamaServer.

It´s better that the player who want to go AI do it himself.

[TigerBlood]

The admin can send the turn to their own account. It does not create any conflicts if they send the turn in AI controlled. At least, I never had any problem with it in Dom2.

[Morla]

At last, now i feel better that i can beat c´tis banefire spam. I love that battle, MP is really fun.

Now i am planning to conquer my lost provinces, and my CASTLE.:D

[shatner]

I just submitted my turn 41 file and I noticed that we are waiting on Jomon and Bogarus. Jomon makes sense but I thought Bogarus had been set as AI...?

[TigerBlood]

I thought I set it to AI as well. I must have not saved the turn before sending...But then i should not have has a .2h to send. In now.

[shatner]

-Game settings:
-HOF 15
-rename enabeled
-rest by default(magic site frecuncy 45?)
-winning condition: 5 capitals for 3 turns

Sooo... I'm pretty sure this is victory for me. I have held five capitals (mine (Atlantis), Marignon's, Bogarus', C'tis' and Pythiums) for three entire turns (49, 50 and 51). By that I mean I have held all five capitals for the entirety of each of those turns. Those provinces haven't even been besieged or anything.

This can be verified from the attached images, though I'm sure the players still in the game will attest whether or not I hold their capital. And the players who aren't still in the game are out for a reason. ;)

So... is that sufficient? I've never won an MP game except by vote before so I'm unsure of the procedure.

[Morla]

XDD well played, mi first MP game and i didn´t get killed neither win. It was a lot of fun, i learned a lot from my war with c´tis, it´s a shame that battle at my capital never happened.

I can declare game finished if all of the remaining players accept Shatner´s victory.

Sooo... i am pretty sure this is victory for you, Shatner.

[shatner]

Capital issues not-withstanding, both you and C'tis played very well. Frankly, I'm glad I never had to face down an 80+ bone chariot charge with banefire bombardment nor the exquisitely outfitted raiding Kenzoku and Grendelkin.

Also, Bogarus fought their war very well and deserve special attention. Their only fault was fighting an enemy 4x larger, 6x wealthier and located across an otherwise impassible body of water.

[Morla]

MorlaLAnoob: Declare game finished

Are you really really super sure? The game's definitely over?

Yes, shatner is the winner.

[Terran]

Congrats! :)