Colonial Conquest - MA Ryleh - Bullock - Winner !

[Bullock]

Another game for any relentless pretenders with hunger of power !

Players: 12 (11lands +1water)
Era: MA
Map: Cradle of Dominion
Magic site freq: 50
Renaming On
Graph On
Hall of Fame 15
Everything else set as default
Turn length: 36h. 50h if requested by few players in late game.
Mods: CBM 1.92 / Streamers and standards / Nation mods welcome
Diplo: Everything is allowed.
Victory Condition: Last standing or survivors agree for a winner.

Gamelink: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Colonial_Conquest

Please send me a PM or post here before going AI. (Don't forget that only relentless pretenders should join this game !)

Game exploits are forbidden (Bogus orders, Troops blocking, lab filling and the recruitment of 0g Ettin)

First to pick first served.
You can change nation until the game starts.

Pretenders:

R'yleh - Bullock
Ermor - Rezo
Shinuyama - Immaculate
Pangaea - Nosantee
Arcoscephale - Dojango
Agartha - Anaconda
Marignon - Hurmio
Man - Strabo
Abysia - krpeters
Pythium - mockingbird
Jotunheim - Bgifu
Caelum - Cool_Hc

[Rezo]

Let me play with Ermor

[Immaculate]

Shinuyama

[Nosantee]

Hit me up with that there Pangaea!

[dojango]

Sign me up as Arco, please

[Anaconda]

Agartha, please

[Hurmio]

Hi,

i'd like to join as Marignon.

[Bullock]

Welcome everybody !
The game is getting filled very fast so i ve already made the game on Llamaserver. You can send your pretender in !

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Colonial_Conquest

[Strabo]

I'd like to play as Man, if you have nothing against newbie players.

[krpeters]

How relentless are you requiring? Once I've lost all my castles and I'm down to woodsmen archers I usually go AI.

[Bullock]

How relentless are you requiring? Once I've lost all my castles and I'm down to woodsmen archers I usually go AI.

that s the spirit. :)
Welcome in

[Nosantee]

Pretender sent for Pangaea.

Semi-noob (3 games played) and never played Pan before, lets see how this desecration of what is probably a good nation goes!

[krpeters]

OK, I'll take Abysia out for a spin then. With good PD I should be able to be difficult to kill :) When are we submitting pretenders?

[Bullock]

You can now

[mockingbird]

If you are still looking for players I'd like to join as Pythium please.

[Bullock]

Welcome in.
Only one slot left.

[krpeters]

Oh great and glorius Random Number Generator! Hear my plea! Please do not start me next to Pythuim!

Or at least give me plenty of woodsmen archers nearby!

[bgifu]

I'll take Jotunheim.

[Anaconda]

I understood there was some connexion issues with the original Cradle of Dom, so I would prefer using Edi's Fix -version of the map?

[cool_hc]

I would like to join as Tien Chi please, if there's still room.

[Bullock]

After watching carefully the list on Llama's server i didn t find any Fix version of the map by Edi. Is it on Llamaserver?

@Cool_hc: It depends if we go on a 11 fixed position map, in that case no. Otherwise i don't think it will be a problem to run this map with 12 players.
Atm i put you on the waiting list.

[Bullock]

I found an other version of the map with 11 lands hand placed so it s perfect ! That means Cool_hc can join and we can expect a balanced game with starting position.

[cool_hc]

Great Thanks.
Also, I've changed my mind about Tien Chi. I'll go Caelum instead. Thanks

[Nosantee]

And lets not forget as well, Cradle is a HUGE map. Even with 12 players we're all still going to get (IF all goes right for everyone!) 16 provinces each without having to fight even yet.

Unless, ya know, you're aggressive or something. Dear RNG, place me near a placid opponent, or if aggressive, one I may smash under hordes of maenads.

[Bullock]

Lol Nosantee :)
Don't forget diplo ! A good dogpiling can also be a solution too to an aggressive opponent ;)

[Immaculate]

Some RP:

Some say that the friend isn't real, that it is some sort of play-thing of a young Bakemono-sho 4-year old girl's imagination and while i cannot claim to have see the creature, i believe her. I am one of the new cult, those who will struggle for the ascension of this 'imaginary friend' to the heights of godhood.

Long live the 'imaginary friend' and its prophet, the 'four-year old girl'!

....I just hope she's right and that a four-year old girl would never make up a story about a giant monster that wants to be a god.

[mockingbird]

Is there a revised version of the map we need to download? If so, would someone kindly provide a link? Thanks!

[Bullock]

No it s still the same map.

[Anaconda]

I would still recommend Edi's Fix. Chances are the map at Llama actually is the fixed version, thou...

heres link for the fix http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=33652

[Bullock]

Since the fix is quite old i think it s the latest version on llamaserver.

And btw the fix concerns mostly the nostart province settings which is already solved if we play with fixed started.

I don't mind to pick the map you mention Anaconda, but if we do so we lose the starting locations on the current version who actually match perfectly our need.

[Anaconda]

Yes, so post the link for the newer version. Mine are Edi's Fix and the original.

[Bullock]

You just need the original map. Starting point are managed by the server.

[Anaconda]

Roger that.

[Bullock]

The game will start as soon as we get Bgifu's pretender.

So in advance good luck & have fun gentlemen !

[Immaculate]

Thanks for the well-wishes. And yeah, good luck and have fun everyone.


So the 'everything is allowed' diplo means we should feel free to break treaties willy-nilly and that they are worth only as much as we feel the other won't backstab us?

[Bullock]

It means they won't be any sanction for politic matters :)
However any betrayed dude can render the thing public...

[Immaculate]

Okay, so with that said, i will be very clear that if anyone breaks a treaty with me in this game i will not consider it representative of their behavior in any other game or a mark upon their character but rather just an element of playing this 'anything goes' game.

[krpeters]

A question about pretenders and mods -- I created my pretender without activating the Streamers mod, will that make any difference?

If I find myself starting with a Manticore with W3S1B1 and Misfortune-3 Drain-3 I'll let you know ;->

[Bullock]

I was wondering also. But well just get the mod its worth it.

[Nosantee]

And so it begins! Good luck all. Hopefully I don't take too long each turn. Damnable working hours of 0500 to 1730. (0400 today. Curse you PT test!)

inb4 barbarian invasion on someones capital on turn 2.

[krpeters]

Oh glorious RNG, thank you for hearing my plea! Thou hast granted me Lion Tribe Archers! I shall do great works with this gift from you and smite thine enemies with them!

[krpeters]

Just a reminder to everyone -- if you're the last person to complete your turn, wait five minutes, and you can go again!

[Nosantee]

Turn 11 arrives and Pangaea has found it's neighbors. KEEP OF MY LAWN YOU GHOST GIRLS/DIRTY UNDEAD AND UGLY GOBLINOIDS. I'VE GOT AN ARMY OF PRIESTS READY! BACK I SAY!

[Immaculate]

Shinuyama needs air gems and will trade earth, fire, water or nature gems for them.

[Immaculate]

Thank-you- our air gem requirements have been met.



Also- i would ask that even though we are supposed to be 'relentless' pretenders, we take a small break over the thanksgiving holidays (if i am the only player playing from america maybe not- but otherwise i think this is a good idea).

Basically, i would like to make the period from wednesday (Nov 23) night to tuesday (Nov 29) night one big turn.

Personally i am traveling and visiting family and i am sure i am not the only one.

[Bullock]

Is there some others people who want this break ? i think if we have 2 mores peeps who need it we will have it, otherwise Immaculate as managed to find a sub for his nation.

[krpeters]

Hmmmm, Wed to Tues is kinda long, but then, getting a sub is a major pain too. Immaculate, any chance you can get a turn in Sunday evening? I wouldn't mind a shorter break at all, but I'd rather tolerate a longer break than the mess of trying to get a sub on short notice.

[krpeters]

Hmmm, how long does it take llamaserver to run a turn? I submitted my turn half an hour ago, but the server hasn't generated a new turn yet.

[Bullock]

I meant immaculate has already a sub, that's why it s not a prob i guess especially that early in the game.

Sometimes the server get slow, he prolly need a reboot.

[Immaculate]

yeah, i can find a sub- but he's busy and 36h turns might be tough on him-especially saturday night- he's got rugby.... maybe make it 56h turn on saturday?

[Nosantee]

yeah, i can find a sub- but he's busy and 36h turns might be tough on him-especially saturday night- he's got rugby.... maybe make it 56h turn on saturday?

ofcourse the server breaks up when its time for a new turn to come in and I'm waiting on a battle report!

However you decide to do it so that your break goes off I'm fine with. Though I can admit that I'd love for the ability to get in atleast 1 or 2 turns during Thanksgiving holidays as I ain't doing NOTHING during the turkey day holiday. Admittedly a 6 day break wont kill me haha.

[Bullock]

ok i ll try to remember to set an extension on saturday

[Immaculate]

Okay, i've submitted my last turn before the holidays- please switch to my sub's e-mail address (the one i PMed you).

LDiCesare will be subbing for me until i get back.

[LDiCesare]

Hi. Shinuyama email address has been correctly switched. I'll try not to ruin Immac's game when he's on holiday.

[Bullock]

Thanks for the subbing ! Do not hesitate to ask for postpones if u need.

[Nosantee]

Another combatant enters the fray as Shinuyama declares war on and attacks Pangaea in the south.

TWO FRONT WAR YOU SAY? BRING IT ON!

[Immaculate]

I'm back- can you change e-mail address back to me?

Now to read some old turn logs and stuff.

[Bullock]

Sure send me the mail by PM

[Immaculate]

You get the e-mail address? I requested turn resend and didn't get a file. Presumably LdiCesare did (sorry L).

[Bullock]

Done !

[Hurmio]

Oh the treachery and general nastiness!

Caelum, our neighbour who we trusted and sought to make peace with, has fallen on our lands with horrible hairy elephants and mages who rain lightning down from the sky. Also, barbaric winged invaders appear where least expected and disappear into the night after ravaging the lands and slaying the good people.

The future looks very grim for us indeed.

Who would defend us? We promises riches and magical trinkets to our saviour as well as the maidenhood of our beloved leader, the Fair Maiden of Marignon, Roger the Crone!


Marignon

[Anaconda]

please postpone 24H

[Bullock]

done

[krpeters]

We promises riches and magical trinkets to our saviour as well as the maidenhood of our beloved leader, the Fair Maiden of Marignon, Roger the Crone!

I think I would prefer not to have the maidenhood of any maiden named Roger :-P

[krpeters]

OK, is Llamaserver fried again? I've tried several times to submit my turn with no success. But I haven't seen anyone else complain about the server being down. Or did I just look in the wrong place?

[Immaculate]

i have same problem.

[Bullock]

You can check at the bottom of any llamaserver pages the last refresh.
Actually it is stuck since 17:22 yesterday.
The server need a reboot or something near

[krpeters]

Looks like we'll need a rollback if the server ever does get running again.

[krpeters]

Wow, llamaserver is confused. The good news is, it does seem to have everyone's turn except Agartha. I hope Agartha isn't too upset with my need to steamroll through his provinces to find other enemies to fight. It's a shame his capital is sitting on a critical route.

[Anaconda]

No, I am here, waiting for you eagerly.

[Nosantee]

It seems I am beaten. Ermor in the west attacked and forced a full strategy change, then Shinuyama finally came from the south having gotten enough time to research flaming arrows. Oh how depressed I am that I didn't get to rush them on the earlier turns before they had magic!

My lands all at full unrest with no income left and no army with which to expand and patrol, almost 20 Panii dead in the last combat and all armies destroyed in different quadrants of the world, I shall now retreat to near AI hood and fill my castles with units to delay the sieges!

Good game everyone. Toobad circustances and unknown teamwork on both sides prevented my glorious victory!

[Immaculate]

You fought well nonetheless Nosantee. I hope we get to play together again someday.

[Rezo]

Yes, I had a lot of fun in our little war, trying to hold you in two fronts until Shinuyama comes. You played very well and i must tell that your start position was a handicap. Maybe your only error was apply too much diplomatic pressure in your two fronts at same time. That triggered an alliance aganist you.
I also hope play again with you in the future.

[Hurmio]

The gods have granted Marignon a great victory over the invading hordes of Caelum. Now the bastards run for their lives and their leaders beg for mercy and peace! But there will be none! Come, friends and neightbours, let us feast on the ripe corpse that is Caelums empire!

[Immaculate]

Congrats. the scoreboards certainly seemed to suggest that the caelum would be a very difficult opponent for any who faced them.

[cool_hc]

The gods have have granted Caelum a great victory over Marignon! The unstoppable hordes of Caelum have smashed Marignon's capital, slaughtered his mages, and defiled the maidenhood of Roger the crone, before killing this false pretender.

It is now only a matter of time, before the nation of Marignon succumbs to its inevitable fate of extinction!

[Immaculate]

the maidenhood of roger the crone... alas... gone forever... damn you vile caelum spawn!

[Bullock]

I saw the tragedy
R.I.P Roger.

[Hurmio]

Terrible news indeed! It seems that weather itself was against the brave defenders of Marignon, as a storm broke out and made the valiant efforts of our battle mages twice as hard. Luckily they all died thus saving them from a debriefing my our most sacred Inquisition.

But have no fear! Perhaps we lost a battle, but the war still rages on! This is only a temporary setback as we gather new armies to drive the infidels to their doom.

We are also sure that Roger will be able to pay her dept to those who help Marignon. Through faith (or necromancy) she will rise again!

[Bullock]

Was wondering if some people would be interested in a break between the 24th Dec and the 2nd of January ? if so i'm planning to set a 8days length turn during this period but quickhost still on (so the game isn't stuck if everyone can finally play)

[mockingbird]

I'm going to be missing internet access during some of that period, so that would be very helpful.

Let's do it.

[Immaculate]

Thank you bullock. I'll be out of the country and away from my gaming computer during that time so that would be good.

[krpeters]

Works for me. Like you said, with Quickhost on, if we do get our turns in we can move on... and if not, we can get back to the fun in 2012.

[Bullock]

Anaconda, If you can't avoid stalling every 2 turns please turn yourself AI.
Otherwise give us some news.

[Anaconda]

I am here.

BTW, Abysias war against me aint going well at all. If theres any1 who is looking for window of opportunity to be open for little expansion this is the exact moment.

[krpeters]

It wasn't a war of expansion; it was a war of "get out of my way". Only reason it's not going well is because Pythium went around you, so now I'm focusing my attention where it belongs.

Meanwhile, Dominions has amazed me yet again. After setting a certain Harbringer's eyes on fire, my mages decided they had nothing better to do than to charge him and fling themselves on his flaming sword. Awsome! Like, what else would a mage with orders of "Stay behind troops" do?

[Hurmio]

Marignon finally fell, as our last army was besieging a castle while our last province was taken. Didn't realize that besieging a castle would not count as having a province, stupid me.

Anyhow, Caelum took me out of the game quick and with ease. Grats to him and thanks for the fun!

[cool_hc]

Marignon, thanks for putting up a good fight. Kudos for not giving up until the very end. You had almost pushed the war into a dead-end grindfest, but luckily I was able to recover with my superior economy.
I will inform you of the results of the final battle with your last army, so stay posted.

[Anaconda]

Only reason it's not going well is because Pythium went around you, so now I'm focusing my attention where it belongs.

Sure, I did compensate my limited numbers with diplomacy but thats so obvious you could have bet on it or did you expect me to just sit and watch you burning my back yard?

You havent beated my only field army in a single battle, while your field armies have melted away one after another.

[Bullock]

From now until the end of December there is no timer, but quickhost is on, to avoid stalls during holidays.
Try to play as usual if you can!

Happy Christmas to all ! :)

[krpeters]

It looks like the term to keep in mind is "critical mass".

Half a dozen theurgs casting Thunderstrike isn't too bad; send in 100 troops, soak up some damage, kill them.

Two dozen theurgs doing the same? Ouch. Time to look into plan B.

[Bullock]

Just took one of my worst defeat in this game.
I have even lost a Visitor to Pythium... what a shame.

[Immaculate]

pythium- we are cancelling our NAP.

[Anaconda]

Why not cancel NAPs with Abysia :D

[krpeters]

Why bother? They can just wait a few turns, then take all my provinces from Pythium.

[mockingbird]

Why can't we just give peace a chance?

[Immaculate]

The goblins of shinuyama are afraid that if they do not stop the pythium pretender now and his armies of artifact-laden elemental royalty, scores of theurgs and several score green lion, with the help of abyssia and r'leyh now, the pythium pretender will never be stopped. So, from our point of view, its now or never.


EDIT: since its now largely irrelevant, can you share with us, Mockingbird, how you took such a decisive research lead? I've played pythium twice and never managed to do anything quite like you did? It was (and continues to be) very impressive indeed.

[krpeters]

It's hardly a mystery -- he has at least half a dozen castles popping out theurgs left and right. With that many mages, his research will naturally be huge.

[Immaculate]

oh kay- next question- how he cast well of misery...

[krpeters]

Acashic Record, lots of surplus death gems. Also his pretender has D4 (along with E4N4).

[mockingbird]

Wow, I was attempting to make a joke and I guess I got taken seriously. :)

The thing Shinuyama should ask themselves is, do they just want to stop Pythium from winning, or do they want to actually win themselves? Because there is no way to prevail over Pythium without incurring terrible losses -- and then some other nation will go on to win (probably Caelum). On the other hand, attacking some smaller nation to gain territory and build up strength puts Shinuyama in a much better position to actually win the game. Sure, Pythium might grow stronger in the meantime but that's only a risk, not a guaranteed loss.

Not that I expect this advice to be heeded. But win or lose, it looks like I'm likely to have some interesting action this game, so I'm pretty happy about it.

[Immaculate]

yeah - this has been one of my most enjoyable MP games.

Seriously though Mockingbird, do you care to comment on your meteoric research and gem accumulation rates?

[mockingbird]

I don't know if there's anything really to explain.

Forts = mages = research

Provinces + sight searching = gems

I think I'm actually low on gem income for the number of provinces, actually, although I haven't done a real calculation. You might notice that I'm not that the top of the graph.

[LDiCesare]

Awsome! Like, what else would a mage with orders of "Stay behind troops" do?He follows troops and does not cast spells since you didn't tell him 'Cast spells'. So if there's no archer to hide behind, he'll naturally follow the lone soldier and go hand to hand, or go hand to hand if there' noone to stay behind. For fun effect, try to script a mage with hold*2, raise skeleton, hold*2, cast and some other mage forward with stay behind troops. Look at what they do before and after the skeleton is raised.

[krpeters]

No, the default behavior for a mage with orders "Stay behind troops" is to cast spells. The only reason he didn't cast was because the Harbringer had fire immunity from his sword, so fire spells weren't going to do much.

From what I could tell, he wasn't standing behind the rearmost soldier; he was charging into the melee as best he could.

Your comment about the skeleton reminds me of something hilarious that happened once in another game. Some elephants of mine were retreating, and worked their way behind my lines. My commanders (set to stay behind troops) all ran to greet them and got flattened.

[Bullock]

i ve set back the 36h turn length with 72h for the next turn.

[krpeters]

Yay, we're back in business!

Now all I need is a "cast flaming death to mages hiding on the back row of the battlefield" spell!

[Bullock]

Llama's server has some problem sending turn, so most of us will have to request his turn.

[Immaculate]

I have and have gotten nothing. am i the only one?

[Strabo]

No, I have this problem too.

[Bullock]

Aaah too bad :(
On my side i didn't get any troubles with the turn request.

I postponed the game for 24h so nobody will stall because of this (temporary?) issue.

[Immaculate]

i got it working now.

[Immaculate]

Ouch Bgifu; ouch!

[krpeters]

OK, this game is making less and less sense...

Why is every one of my attackers getting Soul Slayed when they attempt to strike a Queen of Elemental Air? Is this yet another bizzare CBM effect?

Oh, nevermind, it's the Aegis, ouch. Ummm... well, this game is kind of over.

[Bullock]

Hey do you think it's easy to become a true god ?
Pythium is only the first step to the ascension :)

And it's a 3V1 atm ... just try to resist as much as you can ! grab some time.

[krpeters]

Yes, that's my plan, I'm just trying to slow him down...

[cool_hc]

Hi
I know this is a little last minute, can you please postpone the game for 2-3 hours. I just need a bit more time to submit my turn. Thanks

[Bullock]

u r lucky i get msgs on my smartphone :)
Done.

[Bullock]

I will turn Anaconda AI if he is still stalling this turn.

[mockingbird]

I have to object to turning him AI, as that will greatly undermine my position and alter the game significantly.

If he has dropped out, then we should find a sub.

[Bullock]

alright i will try to find a sub for few days but if we don't find one i will turn him AI (unless he shows up ofc)

[krpeters]

Heh, Agartha going AI wouldn't affect you that much -- I'm pretty tied up at the moment, you'd just have to divert a handful of forces to clean up his provinces.

[Anaconda]

I am back from the holiday.

Dont turn Agartha AI. It would only confuse the diplomatic situation.

[mockingbird]

Something I should have learned already but apparently did not: double check your turns carefully, especially if you expect a big battle to be coming up, lest you end up losing a battle you should have won.

This game is going in the "interesting times" direction. At least it won't be dull. :)

[Bullock]

i'm pissed my spy died before the battle i saw nothing.

Gratz Imma !

[Immaculate]

I'm at work- did i win? Were you patrolling?

[Immaculate]

can i get a 24h extension

[Bullock]

sure it's done

[Immaculate]

So mockingbird,

My battle replay shows you winning the battle (barely) but the stats say i won. In the battle replay many of your communion slaves died but in the stats none of your commanders were lost.

I know this is a known bug but i thought i would share with you anyway.

[Bullock]

i hate when it happens, i would be interested to know if you have seen the same thing mockingbird.

[krpeters]

Ahhh, finally something worked! And better than I expected -- it's a sweet surprise when mage fatigue works to your advantage.

Too bad poison golems are not so easy to roast.

[Immaculate]

sweet use of a battlefield wide spell krpeters and very nice damage even as you were routing. i now love that spell. Hopefully you've stopped and reversed the pythium advance.

[Bullock]

Yeah nice one, at last those theurgs paid back :)

[krpeters]

Wow, judging by the score graphs, there have been some fantastic battles waged this turn.

As for stopping Pythium's advance... I've pummelled his lead army, but I see no way to take any territory back. Any army I put to field is likely to get exterminated by a teleporter. I guess I could risk it and hope his teleporters are busy elsewhere, he certainly has enough enemies.

BTW, has anyone noticed that Caelum is looking a bit dangerous?

[Immaculate]

Yeah, and he finally killed dr. spock.

[krpeters]

Ooops, I just discovered recruiting 0g ettin is frowned upon. Not that I have many, but I was planning to fill my castles with them for defense :) OK, there are some knights nearby, I'll send them to get slaughtered. Unless anyone knows of another good way to kill them off?

[Bullock]

Did you manage to get rid of them ?

The merchant guild of Ryleh is looking for N gems and can trade F A E D for them.

[Immaculate]

Can i get a 36h extension? I have guests in from out of country.

[Bullock]

Alright but try to get your turn earlier if you can plz

[Immaculate]

okay

[Immaculate]

I have to say i am really enjoying this game. Ice devils and pythium communions are really making this game interesting. I think i went into this in a 'beginner' or 'beginner-intermediate' but the lessons i have learned from mockingbird and bgifu and others have really improved my game. thanks to everyone who is making this so much fun.

[Bullock]

Yeah this game is indeed a nice one with nice players. I read MA ryleh was low but they are quite good in fact, much fun playing them. I'm sure this game is going to be even better as it goes forward ;)

[mockingbird]

Someone told you MA R'lyeh was weak? They are very strong. Particularly if they don't have to contest the water. ;)

[mockingbird]

I could use a 24 hour extension on this turn, please.

Thanks!

[Bullock]

Done

[krpeters]

Did you manage to get rid of them ?


Finally, yes. It's not easy to walk them to indies to kill when Pythium keeps dropping SCs on the provinces in between :)

[mockingbird]

I may need some more time for this turn as well, if you would be so kind.

Thanks!

[mockingbird]

Never mind; I managed to get the turn done after all. :)

[Immaculate]

Stupid aegis shield! Is it MR resistible?

[mockingbird]

I do in fact have a suggestion for dealing with your Aegis problem: stop invading my lands. :)

[Bullock]

Yeah it can be resisted by MR.
I think his angel has pissed everybody lol.

[mockingbird]

Apparently in the dim mind of a zmey, lobo are larger than starspawn.

I'm guessing berserk resets all orders to "attack closest"?

[Immaculate]

Does it? thats an interesting question. Did you zmey survive? can you order 'hold, hold, hold, attack' and will it hold prior to attack?

Also, the zmey fire breath attack, when you click on it, doesn't have fire as a 'type' of damage. if you are immune to fire, do you still get the fire breath or do you just get the claws and tail?

[Bullock]

Yeah guys, berserk automatically switch orders to attack closest.
That's why i could trap your zmey so easily with some PD.
However im pissed your angel was the only one to survive ! Lucky him.

[mockingbird]

You still got some good rolls considering that it's 12 vs. 22.

[krpeters]

BTW, for future reference, are there any other "slaughter all medium MR troops" items in the game? The Ageis seems uniquely powerful relative to everything else.

Once I get enough earth gems, we can play Ageis-pong

[mockingbird]

The Stone Sword does something similar as a weapon.

Astral Tempest does MR-resisted damage as a battlefield spell.

Master Enslave doesn't kill your low-MR guys, but it takes them away. :)

I wouldn't say The Aegis is overpowered - it's certainly strong, but it's a unique artefact, and there are many ways to deal with it.

[Bullock]

You still got some good rolls considering that it's 12 vs. 22.

Hey i brought some stuffed guy to enslave your Zmeies :)

[mockingbird]

You still got some good rolls considering that it's 12 vs. 22.

Hey i brought some stuffed guy to enslave your Zmeies :)

Did you? I hadn't noticed in the replay.

I think you mean well-equipped. No, wait.... :)

[Immaculate]

Strabo:

Any chance of a post-game wrap-up? Mostly your early game expansion, goals, and early and mid-game affairs with Jotunheim i am interested in

[Bullock]

You still got some good rolls considering that it's 12 vs. 22.

Hey i brought some stuffed guy to enslave your Zmeies :)

Did you? I hadn't noticed in the replay.

I think you mean well-equipped. No, wait.... :)

Am I missing some dirty joke there ? :)

[Strabo]

Well, my goal was to not be defeated first, so I tried to expand early and fighting Jotuns (semi-successful at first), but then the mighty Ice Devil (if I recall correctly) smashed my whole army and locked me in my second fort. Then I turtled there and gave up. By the way, thanks for a good game!

[Bullock]

Well, my goal was to not be defeated first, so I tried to expand early and fighting Jotuns (semi-successful at first), but then the mighty Ice Devil (if I recall correctly) smashed my whole army and locked me in my second fort. Then I turtled there and gave up. By the way, thanks for a good game!

Thx for playing 'til the end, i appreciate

[mockingbird]

I could use another 24 hours for this turn, please.

Thanks!

[Bullock]

Well it seems the extension will be more useful for Bgifu than Mockin

[mockingbird]

Actually, could we just lengthen the default turn time? I think we're getting to the stage in the game where turns can take a lot of time, and it would be good for people to operate under less pressure.

[Bullock]

I think everybody will agree with that so i switched to 48h

[mockingbird]

Sorry, I'm dealing with a sick pet right now and scripting communions is a real time sink.

Can I get a 24-hour extension, please?

Thanks!

[Immaculate]

Dojango:

Any comments or post-game wrap up?

[Bullock]

@mockin: Nice victory again, i wasn't expecting a fire storm despite i knew you had lot of fire mages in here. However i'm quite surprised your mages didn't burn either. i tried this spell with abysia and even if my troops were fireproof they were burning like others... Is it because you have reached the 150 fire resis that you mage didn't burn ?

i'm quite confused with this spell.

[mockingbird]

I've always found that 100% fire resistance is enough. I don't know how to explain your experiences with Abysia.

[cool_hc]

Could we set Agartha to AI ?
Thanks

[Anaconda]

No we cant. I still got my unbeaten army awaiting wolfs to come.

[mockingbird]

Maybe it's not needed because of the server troubles, but I am going to need another 48-72 hours to get this turn done properly.

I may pass on playing Pythium ever again just because all the communion scripting is so tiresome.

[Immaculate]

My very first real victory against pythium- it only took about 20 turns but i finally bloodied his nose. I got to say that was fun.

[mockingbird]

Yeah, I forgot you had access to Rain of Stones via your pretender.

[Bullock]

hehe congratz imma :)
Too bad again i saw nothing

how many mages did u bring down ?

[Immaculate]

from memory, sixty-something... lost a faerie queen though :(

[mockingbird]

Rain of Stones is brutal when you aren't expecting it.

Definitely not the first mistake of mine this game, but probably the most telling.

[Bullock]

60+ !! i was expecting 30 max lol.
Nice one

[mockingbird]

Nice job Immaculate.

[Immaculate]

Now i really want to open the turn but i can't because i am at work late. Can you tell me what happened?

(edit: I have no idea if you are being genuine or sarcastic- either is fine- its all in good fun)

EDIT 2: hopefully i didn't lose my SCs.

EDIT 3: oh this is killing me.

[mockingbird]

*whistles innocently* :)

[Bullock]

What a slaughter, there is blood & guts all over the field.

[Immaculate]

oh... well then that makes things obvious and alleviates my worry completely. Thanks bolluck.

Oh- wait.. that clears nothing up at all :doh:

[cool_hc]

Hi
I will be travelling overseas for work, from Wedndesday 15th February and will be back on Tuesday 21st Feburary. i won't have access to a computer during that time, can we either have the timer paused during that time? Or can we organise a sub for me for that week ?
Sorry for the inconvenience guys

[Bullock]

Since you are a fat nation & at war i think we are going to put the game on hold ;(

Can you play this turn ? then i postpone for a week.

[cool_hc]

Thanks

Yes i will play this turn AND the next turn too. Please don't postpone until after the next turn as I'll definitely get these two turns in before i leave.


Since you are a fat nation & at war i think we are going to put the game on hold ;(

Can you play this turn ? then i postpone for a week.

[Bullock]

ok nice!

[mockingbird]

Wow, what a nice gift from R'lyeh! :)

[Immaculate]

what did he give you (inadvertently i am sure)?

[Bullock]

The rings of wizardry of course !! :)

Immaculate is playing Pythium in an other game ... no need to say more ^^

[mockingbird]

Aw, and here I thought it was a sign we could finally be friends... :)

I'll pass it along to its intended recipient. Although you know, at some point the two of you are actually going to have to fight it out to see who gets to reign over creation. :)

[Bullock]

Aw, and here I thought it was a sign we could finally be friends... :)
:D :D


I'll pass it along to its intended recipient.


Thanks mocking !


Although you know, at some point the two of you are actually going to have to fight it out to see who gets to reign over creation. :)

Yeah we have made some arrangements :)

[Immaculate]

I need a 24h extension please.

[Bullock]

done

[cool_hc]

Hi Bullock

Just a reminder, I won't be able to get my next turn in until I come back frrom my trip on Tuesday 21st Feburary. Could you please pause the timer until then.
Cheers

[Bullock]

Yeah it's done. See you in a week :)

[Immaculate]

Finally i got that stupid angel!!!

Regardless of how this goes, Mockingbird you definitively get MVP for this game in my books. It took three dedicated nations to take you down and for a long long while (maybe until jotunheim collapsed) i wasn't sure if we could even win...

[mockingbird]

Yeah, I was too tired and forgot to have him teleport somewhere else. Oops! :o

Thanks for the compliments, although I don't really feel like I played my best game in this one.

[Bullock]

I also give you the MVP you did well :)

[Immaculate]

I think you only had 50% chance of teleporting away in time- that entire force i hit you with cloud trapeezed in- thats why they were all air casters.

EDIT: I hope you didn't forget to teleport- i hope i just got there before you did - i would hate to cheapen my little victory by knowing that its fatigue that got you.

[Bullock]

I'm wondering if the rate isn't higher when you teleport several people at the same time.

50% to catch the target with one, 75% with 2guys, 88% with 3 and so on.
Considering that if one of the teleported guy catch the target all will join the fight.

[mockingbird]

I think Boots of the Planes have the special (undocumented) property that they always have first priority teleporting.

I haven't tested this, though.

[Immaculate]

Someone beat me on the construction of boots of the planes and the sickle who's crop is pain. Also in previous turns. I got beat on a queen of elemental air and a king of fire. How does the game decide who get's what when two factions build/summon on the same turn. It's been a huge waste of gems/boosters/mage time.

[mockingbird]

Every unit has a unique ID.

At the beginning of every turn, a random number generator decides whether the units will act in ascending or descending order of their IDs. The units that act first in summoning or crafting uniques have precedence.

Also, it's nice to see you all fighting over the spoils. :)

Someone beat me on the construction of boots of the planes and the sickle who's crop is pain. Also in previous turns. I got beat on a queen of elemental air and a king of fire. How does the game decide who get's what when two factions build/summon on the same turn. It's been a huge waste of gems/boosters/mage time.

[Bullock]

Someone beat me on the construction of boots of the planes and the sickle who's crop is pain. Also in previous turns. I got beat on a queen of elemental air and a king of fire. How does the game decide who get's what when two factions build/summon on the same turn. It's been a huge waste of gems/boosters/mage time.

Yeah some1 beat me on the Aegis & the sword of many colors =p


Ryleh is officially breaking his nap with Caelum !
Now it's time for the fishies to eat the birdies.

[cool_hc]

Hi Ryleh

Fair enough. But can I clarify, do we get to attack each other this turn? Or after 3 turns as per our original NAP3 ?



Ryleh is officially breaking his nap with Caelum !
Now it's time for the fishies to eat the birdies.

[Immaculate]

he means in three turns as per your agreement.

[Immaculate]

Shinuyama is officially breaking its nap with Caelum !
Now it's time for the gobbies to eat the birdies.


To be clear, this means we attack each other in three turns.

[Bullock]

Hi Ryleh

Fair enough. But can I clarify, do we get to attack each other this turn? Or after 3 turns as per our original NAP3 ?


Yeah i m honoring the 3 turns, otherwise i wouldn't make it official :)

Good luck

[krpeters]

Oops, I forgot to play last turn. No biggie, there's not much I can do anyway.

I have a bunch of useless troops holed up in my remaining castle. Should I just go AI to avoid holding you guys up any further? (Trying to break the siege would be pointless, they'd just get eaten)

[Bullock]

I guess at this point no one will complain if you go AI.
Thanks for fighting til the end ! i hope you ve enjoyed the game :)

[Immaculate]

If you do leave can we get an AAR from you?

[krpeters]

I don't have much to offer in the way of an after-action report... I basically played a pretty weak game. I had the advantage of a corner start which meant I could initially develop in peace. I saw Pythium's growing strength and decided I needed to go on the offensive. Unfortunately Agartha was in the way, so I tried to stomp on him first. I made mediocre progress against Agartha, then Pythium came in and started crushing me.

I held on to research Fire Storm and torched Pythiums army of Theurgs. I never had a response for his SCs, but he only had a few so I was able to start retaking territory and prepare to counterattack.

Then Caelum steamrolled in and that was that :)

OK, I've switched to AI. Have fun everyone!

[cool_hc]

Hi Bullock

Could I please have a 24hour extension. I'm going to need an extra day to plan all my defensive and offensive actions against you.

Thanks

[Bullock]

postponed

[cool_hc]

Hi Bullock, i don't mean to be nit-picky, but I thought we had 1 more round of NAP left ? hence my inaction against you this turn. As Shinuyama hasn't started any actions against me this turn, I assume he also believed there was 1 more round of NAP.
Anyways, in the long run I don't think it will make much difference, but would like to point it out nonetheless.

[mockingbird]

Well done, Immaculate. You took accurate aim at Pythium's weaknesses and then surprised me with Foul Vapors. It's been fun watching your play improve as the game has progressed. :)

[Bullock]

Well done, Immaculate. You took accurate aim at Pythium's weaknesses and then surprised me with Foul Vapors. It's been fun watching your play improve as the game has progressed. :)

Yeah was a nice battle. Very well played Imma.

Hi Bullock, i don't mean to be nit-picky, but I thought we had 1 more round of NAP left ? hence my inaction against you this turn. As Shinuyama hasn't started any actions against me this turn, I assume he also believed there was 1 more round of NAP.
Anyways, in the long run I don't think it will make much difference, but would like to point it out nonetheless.

i m sry if i ve made a mistake counting turn.
I took in consideration the turn i warned you though.

Immaculate what do you think ?

[Immaculate]

i was attacking this turn. My point of view was the same as caelum. Just send him a thousand gold or something and call it even.


And thanks MB; i learnt a lot from you. Were you expecting my entire army to come in?

[Bullock]

I m really sry for the mistake.
However i'm way too greedy to send any cash xD.

And btw my true attack is happening the next turn :)

[mockingbird]

And thanks MB; i learnt a lot from you. Were you expecting my entire army to come in?

No, I wasn't really expecting your whole army. I was hoping that 15% regeneration + 50% fire resistance + luck would be enough to keep my mages alive from the expected Fire Storm, but Foul Vapors pushed the damage per round over what the regeneration could deal with.

I also thought I'd have a bit better luck with my MR-resist spells, seeing as how I had a ton of mages and a bunch of penetration items.

I probably should have focused a bit more on golem countermeasures, but I wasn't expecting three of the darned things.

At least I had the sense to free up a neighboring province just in case I didn't hold the castle. :)

[mockingbird]

When breaking a NAP, or having receiving notification of cancelation, it's usually a good idea to explicitly state at what turn hostile orders can be given. Sometimes there can be some confusion or misinterpretation.

It sounds like Bullock just jumped the gun in this case though. I'd better watch out for that in any other games. :)

[Bullock]

Don t worry i will give more detailed breaking nap next time :)

[cool_hc]

Hi Bullock, could I get an extension again. I don't need a full day, just 12 hours should be more than enough, so I can take my turn tomorrow morning.

Thanks

[Bullock]

im such a cool admin that i give u 24

[cool_hc]

Hi Bullock
The timer hasn't been postponed at all. What happened?

[Bullock]

Sometimes llama doesn't take in consideration ordered postpone. Some kind of bug.

Fortunately for you, i saw your message before the deadline !

[cool_hc]

Sometimes llama doesn't take in consideration ordered postpone. Some kind of bug.

Fortunately for you, i saw your message before the deadline !

Thanks Bullock for the quick response.

You are indeed a cool admin!

Well, I guess its back to planning my campaign of destruction against you.

[Bullock]

Do you want to switch to 72h guys ?

[Immaculate]

Maybe... i'll still try to get my turns in fast but if someone needs it, they can make use of the extra time.

I'm actually starting to lose interest a bit now that pythium is (nearly) dead and we've all got the research maxed out to be quite honest.

[Immaculate]

1)

Cool HC:

that was a super cool battle. Truly epic. Not sure what won it exactly- maybe your fire angel tiring before he landed more of those massive fire spells.

2)
I think my new favorite spell is animal horde. so many hitpoints to burn through!

3)
army graph !!! so many dips!

[cool_hc]

1)

Cool HC:

that was a super cool battle. Truly epic. Not sure what won it exactly- maybe your fire angel tiring before he landed more of those massive fire spells.

2)
I think my new favorite spell is animal horde. so many hitpoints to burn through!

3)
army graph !!! so many dips!


This was an EPIC battle indeed.
Nice strategy with cutting off my escape rout. This battle wiped out about 40% of my firepower in SC's, mages, items, etc.
In fact, I was planning the same thing. My plan was for a huge battle where my goal was to knock out 75% of your total HP to force you to auto-rout, whilst cutting off your two escape routes. But I just didn't have enough firepower to accomplish it, especially with my forces split between two continents.
I'm certain you reach my 75%HP limit first. Your Ember Lord with the Aegis & Ember was indeed devastating! I was soo close to killing him twice, brought him to about 20-30 hp, but just couldn't finish him before your regen kicked in.
At least I killed your King of Mountains SCs. But not much else.


I would also like the timer turned to 72 hours. It's really tiring trying to squeeze in a turn every 2 days, whilst juggling job/RL etc.


I'm not sure what your long terms plans are, but like Imma, I've also lost interest in this game. I've lost now anyways, and would would like to surrender. No purpose for me to continue as I would only drag on my final defeat unnecessarily. But it's obvious the final battle is between Shinuyama and Ryleh to decide the winner, and I don't want to delay the final clash.

[Immaculate]

I am willing to concede to Rleyh if all others are. I'll take the silver medal if no one minds.


IF we decide to end it. That has to be pretty much unanimous. I feel that whie the epic battles were fun, i would rather start a new game than drag out this game on a massive map where there is TONS of micro. Although the massive map was fun, and i will continue to play if people really want to, i am more than happy to do a MP Colonial Conquest II or something else instead and save myself 1.5 hours per night to do other stuff...

anyway, thats my two cents.


If we do decide to stop, i have to say this was one of my favorite games of any kind (Not just dominions) i have ever played. I really liked my early battles with pangea (props to dojango who was a pretty good opponent but got the short end of a 2vs1), jotun (again a very worthy opponents- i really hate ice devils now), pythium (OH MY F____ GOD is he a good player compared to me) and now caelum... (seemed like you you would have been super tough if not for, again, a 2vs1).

As for ermor and r'leyh- you were loyal and excellent allies and i really liked playing WITH you.

[Bullock]

Aaah just when my steel oven is working at his full capacity :)

Well if the 2 other majors power are fine to concede i would gladly take the title of risen god (why did i write dog instead of god at the first write ? :) )

I admit the fight against Caelum ain't fair so it's more or less interesting, and then it will take months IRL to take down Shinu...without a guaranteed outcome.

My first play of Ryleh MA and it goes directly in my top 3 favorite nations. I hope everybody enjoyed this game as imma & me did.

Special thanks to Mockin who played very well 'til the end.
To Imma, my loyal ally.
And to all other players who have played this game with a very nice behavior.

I'm not planning to launch a 2nd version of colonial conquest soon cause i ve just started another game.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=48465

There is still slots opened and i d gladly have you in this game. (for those who haven't join yet)

[Immaculate]

A Brief AAR:

So i started playing this game with the goblin warriors as expansion parties. It worked sort of alright but i had to rely on the freespawn from my celestial general to have shielded forces to defend against archers. Anyway, that worked sort of well and i soon ended up abutting Pangea, Man, and Pythium. I think i bought a province from Pythium or traded them and we seemed to have a stable border. I didn't know but i think he used that opportunity to turtle and build like six forts or something. Anyway, I though that since i had strong archers, Pangea should be my first target so i started to focus on going for flaming arrows and building up the goblin archers.

Meanwhile i got a barbarian event on a province where i was building my second fort one turn before it was done. that was "very bad". On the same turn my site-searching general (who has air in case you somehow don't know) found the illusionist site and soon i had broken solidly into air.

The war with pangea was first fought between Pangea and Ermor than i jumped in a bit late. I was waiting on my archers making it to the front because he had armored minotaurs and size three (or is it four?) minotaurs trample all the squishy little gobbies like it ain't no thing... so yeah... i tried to buy a little time. When i did strike the flaming arrows did about as well as i hoped they would. The counter was mostly poison evocations and bladewinds if i remember. And those were pretty bad. I did a bit of skelliespam if i remember correctly and that helped soak the bladewinds a bit.

Anyway, soon pangea was reduced between ermor and myself. I didn't realize it but jotunheim was eating up man really quickly. I was actually sort of worried about Man since i hadn't reinforced my borders with him too well and i didn't know much about man except that in my other game (morla MA) they were kicking serious butt- so i was a bit scared. Anyway, suddenly the Man province that neighbored mine was conquered by Jotunheim and when i next looked at the scoreboard Man was folding and Jotunheim was really taking off.

At the same time Pythium was starting to get REALLY scary (as you all know) so i started to feed intel to anyone who wanted to fight him- i had lots of scouts in his lands and i shared that mostly with the fishies.

Man bribed me (i think) and soon enough Ermor and myself were at war with Jotunheim. I did something i thought was pretty smart in that i build some chalices of the sea and used the north-eastern lake to shuffle between the ancient pangean territories and the once man, now jotunheim ones while also striking at his main army in the south. I don't remember exactly what i used in terms of battle magic (wind guide/flaming arrow i never left home without) but i know i used a lot of ghost generals at this time (and sort of wished i had gone for them first when i realized how awesome they were). I have to say that i really got the best of jotuheim in those first few rounds and i was about to take about 8 provinces in about 3 turns (which i thought was awesome until later in the game when i looked bolluck and mocking's graphs). Anyway, after that he firmed up considerably and counterraided with a few ice devils which i never seemed to be able to land a petrify upon despite some penetration items. Eventually i brought up my main army and was able to defeat him in a few decisive battles while he fought Ermor with a nice 'the huntress' SC.

WHile this was going on i realized i had to jump in against pythium or he was going to run away with the game. he was rolling up abyssia so fast and at that time bolluck hadn't seemed to yet find a way to really effectively counter him- though maybe i am wrong. So i started to fight pythium at the same time but i got my A$$ handed to me two times, losing huge multi-mage armies worth thousands of gold and dozens of gems each time. He started to send the habringer and his frineds into my lands a few times and i knew that if it wasn't for abyssia and r'leyh i would have folded.

Finally i was able to contain Jotunheim and Ermor took over fighting the last of their forces. Which meant i could move my forces and treasure south. that was end-game for me. I pulled out lots of big evocation magic and started to add lots of summons including treants which i had never used before and poison golems which i absolutely love.

Finally i learned a lesson from watching abyssia turn back pythium in one major battle and started pulling out battlefield evocations (firestorm, etc) but so too did pythium apparently 'cause i got hit by some of his too.


All in all, it was a great game and i made TONS of errors but i also learned a lot along the way.

I am eager to hear all your AARs too- especially acrosephalae, caelum, marrignon, and others in distant lands i was not part of.


oh yeah: favorite spells: early game: flame arrows, mid-game: petrify, late game: animal horde, disintegrate. Favorite sc: poison golem (especially against pythium with their soul-slay spam)

[Immaculate]

edit; double-post.

[Bullock]

I will give you until the end of the week to change your mind.
If you don't, then i will auto proclaiming me winner :)

[Rezo]

As the Ermor player i wish tell you that this was my first Dominions game. I am very glad that i had you as my oponnents /allies. I had a lot of fun.
I must thank Inmmaculate very specially. He was a great ally/mentor to me. As you noticed i am not english native speaker and his shared dominions knowledge and patience helped me to stay alive until the end of the game.
Pangea and Jotunheim were a very honorable opponents too.

I am sure i will see you in more games.

Thanks.

[cool_hc]

Well I have no problem declaring Ryleh the winner.

Anyways here's Brief AAR for Caelum:

I initially started off with Jotenheim to my east, Arcosephale & Ryleh to me West, and Marignon to my south. After the initial expansion and organising NAPs with Arco, Ryleh and Jotunheim, my first war started off with Marignon.
Initially my war was successful, with my flying units I managed to get grab almost half his provinces within 2-3 turns, before he was able to begin his counter-offensive against me. My strategy revolved around a raiding strategy where I would snatch more provinces than he could take back, forcing him into a losing defensive war.
As Caelum's main weakness is defense, I knew I had to avoid letting him make any serious counter-attacks on my lands.
Thankfully, his forces were mostly split up into mini-armies that weren't deadly by themselves, but would have been a problem if i let them converge into one. But my raid strategy was able to keep his forces split up and preoccupied.
The only set-back I received, was when I stormed Marignon's capital for the first time, Marignon managed to pull off a major victory against me. I believe this was much publicised in the this forum. However, what he didn't mention was that it was a pyhrric victory for him. He lost most of his ground troops that he couldn't replace, whereas I was able to rebuild within a few turns.
After regrouping, i finally took control of the war, and it was the beginning of the end for him.

However, just when i was about to deal the finishing blows to Marignon, Arco cancelled our NAP, and I was forced into a temporary defensive war on the Arco front, whilst trying to finish off Marignons last armies & forts. Utilizing the same raid strategy against Arco, we reached a stalemate, where he won most of the battles, but they were always pyhrric in nature, so he could not capitalize on them with invasions into my lands. By then, it became a battle of attrition, which I had the advantage in money, gem, mages. I literally had to whittle him down bit by bit, trading the same provinces over and over again. Only after I finally finished off Marignon, was I finally able to go on the offensive against him. After storming his most strategic castle, i wiped out a large portion of his mages and effectively won the war. After 50+ turns of constant warfare was i finally able to consolidate my gains and rebuild.

At this stage Abysia, Ryleh & Shinu were locked in a stalemate in their war against Pythium, with no obvious victor. I wasn't sure what to do next. I figured there would would be showdown with the eventual winner, so I needed more lands/gems/forts, hence my decision to attack Abysia next. The war was oddly swift without much resistance. However this was my biggest mistake, as Ryleh & Shinu finally defeated Pythium to the point where I knew I no longer had a chance to defeat their alliance. At that point i knew it was inevitable they would cancel their NAP against me at the same time, in order to break me.

When the time came, I knew my only hopes lay in a Pythium comeback. So my strategy was to split up my forces in two. 40% in the northern continent to fight in a series of defensive actions to buy me time, whilst the other 60% of my forces in the southern continents focused on an offensive campaign of liberating Pythiums castles, and taking back as many Ryleh land provinces as possible.
However, with Shinu's enormous victories over Pythium, my fate was sealed, and my 60% southern army no longer had any purpose. And the final nail in the coffin for me, was when Shinu wiped out my entire 40% northern army, cutting off all escape routes.

I think if i were to replay, i would have attacked Ryleh before attacking Abysia. He was most vulnerable at this point. But ultimately my greed killed me.
I wonder could I have taken either Shinu or Ryleh if I had fought them 1v1 ?
I'm also curious who would win between Ryleh and Shinuyama in the end if they continued ?
Please let me know your thoughts.

Anyways, Hands down My best MP game ever!

Thanks for a fantastic game.

[Bullock]

A very nice game indeed !
I think Pythium would have killed me very fast without the help of Immaculate, or at least make me fall back into the sea. From that point i think Pythium could have taken the lead then... or Shinu maybe.

Anyway a big thanks to my mate Immaculate who did a great job !

@mockin: do you have a conj site in the fort where your pretender is ? If so Agartha had a conj & construc site next to his cap lol.