Another World - EA - (Running)

[Bullock]

Another fast paced game for those with at least some MP experience.

Players: 8
Era: EA
Map: Realm of Roaring Rhinos (169 + 16, wrap)
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=440&st=0&#last (Thx to Elmokki for this great map)
Magic site freq: 55
Renaming On
Graph On
Hall of Fame 15
Everything else set as default
Turn length: 30h as long as possible.
Mods: CBM 1.92 / Streamers and standards
Diplo: Everything is allowed.
Victory Condition: Last standing or survivors agree for a winner.

Gamelink: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Another_World


Game exploits are forbidden (Bogus orders, Troops blocking, lab filling and the recruitment of 0g Ettin)

First to pick first served.
You can change nation until the game starts.

Players - Nations :

Bullock - Ctis
HoleyDooley - Hinnom
Tigercub - niefellheim
Ghoul31 - Pangaea
Krpeters - Ulm
mockingbird - Mictlan
KeithZ - Abysia
GFSnl - Fomoria

[HoleyDooley]

Hinnom thanks.

[tigercub]

i am in niefellheim for me...

[ghoul31]

Pangea

[Bullock]

Welcome in everybody.
The game is up for pretenders :
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Another_World

[krpeters]

I'd like to give Ulm a try -- I have some ideas on how to take advantage of CBM's diversity. Plus I won't be easy to kill early on.

[mockingbird]

Well, since Bullock threw down the gauntlet - Mictlan. I've never tried the EA version. :)

[KeithZ]

I'd like to play abysia. Thanks

[Bullock]

Well, since Bullock threw down the gauntlet - Mictlan. I've never tried the EA version. :)

Aaaaaah my worst enemy is back, glad to see u in.

I'd like to play abysia. Thanks

What kind of xp do you have ? your account seems kinda noob.

[KeithZ]

Lots of SP experience and just little MP with the guy who introduced the game to me

I just register here and want to play with some different people:p

[Bullock]

Alright ! Let's have a try then. Welcome in.

[KeithZ]

Alright ! Let's have a try then. Welcome in.

Thanks! Don't expect me to be kicked out easily, I do know how to play that nation.:)

[bbz]

Hey I'd like to join. I've had 4 games reaching late game. and then I had to get some subs because of exams. I'd like to join as EA Fomoria.

And let the Giant rumble begin.

quick question though: By saying that everything is allowed in diplomacy does that include trade agreements?

[bbz]

Actually I've decided to pass on this one. Count me out. Have fun though!

[bbz]

Hmm sorry for being so indecisive.I think I might still decide to play. (the question on diplomacy is quite important though: If you make trade agreement with someone (exchange gems for items etc. you still have to follow it right?))

[Bullock]

Sry dude but i'm not taking people who are leaving games at half way.

[bbz]

Just to clarify quickly the situation of the games(I dont like leaving games either but sometimes real life is more important)
1 of them was declared over, me and 2 other guys being declared winners.(before i needed to leave i wrote 4 games coz it was eaier to do without clarifying what exactly happened it was actually 3 games that i was looking to find a sub for)
2nd game I was with an ally and there was only 1 other nation left(whom we had to engage together) so the game was as good as won(my ally won on his own shortly after)
3rd game A sub was found immediately = no changes.

And I do take the blame for the forth one where I expected that someone was going to volunteer to sub. (I was top in that game in terms of territory (gems aswell)and i had 90% all the unique arties (well the best of them hammers mage bane bla bla)+ 20% reduction site for forging and enchantment + 2 more capitals and an AI player's capital next to my lands(I was about to besiege that at the time)) and I had to take 2 more capitals to win... Oh and I had arranged a dogpile on the next most powerful nation:) SO I was really pissed off that noone voluteered to finish that game:). It was as good as done.

But yea sometimes RL is quite a bit more important than the game. And ofc you have the right not to let me play if you see it like that, but i see it as having screwed up only 1 game that was as good as mine anyways:).

Anyways. Have a nice game:)

[bbz]

I guess all I was trying to say is that I'm not the kindof guy that leaves when things get bad halfway through. I left(trying desperately to find subs for games with really good winning chances(almost certain) because I had to.:)

Anyways if you change your mind feel free to pm me. And if not have fun!:)

[Bullock]

Well since you seems motivated to get in and also because you have, indeed, left those games at least in a honorable way i ll give you a chance.

But i still think you shouldn't join games if you know you can't play 'til the end, especially that many games stopped for a scheduled events (your exams).

So welcome in !

[Bullock]

We are 8 !
I'm planning to start the game early next week, so start working on your pretender. :evil:

And the game is still recruiting until the launch for up to 4 slots.

[bbz]

But i still think you shouldn't join games if you know you can't play 'til the end, especially that many games stopped for a scheduled events (your exams).


Thats a good point. The thing is, I was kindoff expecting to reduce them to 2 or 1 by reaching the end game(aka loose)(but unfortunately all of them got there).

Anyways, Thanks for letting me in:)

[Bullock]

Lol Bbz changed his mind again, so we are back to 7.

[Bullock]

I think we will wait for a last player and launch the game.
Unless you guys want to wait for more.

[GFSnl]

I'll play Formoria if you have me :)

I can submit my pretender tonight.

[Bullock]

Great !
So we start tonight unless you want to wait for more or if some1 join by that time.

[GFSnl]

If someone else want to join, no prob.

Otherwise eight is fine too with me...

[GFSnl]

Pretender is in :)

[Bullock]

Ok lets start this :)

Good luck everyone.

[KeithZ]

I can't believe it I took luck 2 but none of the random event I met was good up till now...:mad:

[krpeters]

I've noticed that the CBM events seem generally worse than Vanilla events. Your best hope is to get a lot of provinces quickly so the bad events don't pound your capital.

[krpeters]

OK, why are all the indy scouts hiding from me? Come out come out wherever you are!

[Bullock]

Hey, got the same problem ...

@Tigercub: You are currently not accepting private message, which won't help you for diplo. You should check your options (you are currently in the default state)

Just want to say that i'm planning to invade land 167, if we could avoid the shock of our army it would be nice!

[KeithZ]

I think my private message isn't work now, either. How can I enable it?

[KeithZ]

Yeah, I found it. It has been turned on now.

[krpeters]

Someone needs to fix the Dominions RNG. I just got hit by three Brigands events in a row. C'mon!

[mockingbird]

We might be in danger of a Neifelheim stale.

Extend turn and contact player?

[krpeters]

Too late, it seems, unless someone saved the previous turn on the server. I wonder if he was watching 24 Hrs at Daytona over the weekend too?

[Bullock]

i ve extended this turn for 24h because of Neifelheim.
If he's not back at the end of those 24h i ll extend the turn 'til a sub is found.

[krpeters]

Any word yet from Tigercub?

[KeithZ]

Hey guys, I think I need some help.

I tried to upload my 2h file, but everytime I just got a "Mail Delivery Failed" notice like this immediately

Your message to turns@llamaserver.net was rejected by the recipient domain. The error that the other server returned was:
" SMTP error, RCPT TO: 550-"JunkMail rejected - mail.corpease.net [61.145.121.44]:52717 is in an RBL
550-on rbl.websitewelcome.com, see Blocked - see
550 http://psbl.surriel.com/listing?ip=61.145.121.44"".

Your original message is included as attachment.

I have no idea now... can anyone tell me what's wrong?

[Bullock]

The server are down for a while now, it might be linked with your problem.
Keep us posted if the problem persist when the server are back.

[krpeters]

What is the current server status? I just got a turn file for another game, but I'm not getting any response to a request for turn resend or a reply to the turn I submitted.

[Bullock]

Yeah LLamaserver has met some problem lately.
Hopefully it will be solved soon

[tigercub]

Hi guys in the latest turn i routed Abysia for the map when he attacked me in the battle report...but when going into my turn it seems i have lost the battle and i Routed!! i am at a lost to understand this?
i sent the turn in anyway.

sorry for the delay before had a quick trip over the other side of the crountry!

Tigercub

[Bullock]

You have met what i'm considering as the worst bug of this game.

Nobody can exactly tell what happens. I've heard plenty of rumors on it, such as difference of chipset between user comp and server who compute the turn or a bug between two version of the game/mods ?!
But some other people have met this bug in solo too, so ...

However it seems more frequent in MP than SP.

Hopefully the next time you meet it, it's going to be in your favor :)

[HoleyDooley]

Hi guys,

I am out so going AI.

Thanks for the game.

I am going to try Abysia next time, or another era of that nation because I have seen them go ballistic in 3 games and no one has come up with an answer to combat them.

The reason I want to try them out is so as I can hopefully have someone show me how to tackle them.

Also I think I designed my pretender to be towards the end game, which doesn't help.

Dooley

[KeithZ]

To tigercub: Sorry, it seems to be the bug helped me (or maybe I actually won the battle but the report was wrong?), I am quite confused too. Some mages of mine were killed in the battlefield, but they turned out to be still alive on the map, I have no idea of what happened as well. :confused:

[mockingbird]

The report is correct, but the replay is wrong.

[KeithZ]

Hi guys,

I am out so going AI.

Thanks for the game.

I am going to try Abysia next time, or another era of that nation because I have seen them go ballistic in 3 games and no one has come up with an answer to combat them.

The reason I want to try them out is so as I can hopefully have someone show me how to tackle them.

Also I think I designed my pretender to be towards the end game, which doesn't help.

Dooley

I don't think Abysia is so hard to be countered. It's pity that Hinom can't cast Rain, but you should use Fire Fend and Destruction.

[HoleyDooley]

Thanks for the tips Keith.

There are so many smells you need to know, which is part of the beauty oh the game.

Big, big learning curve.

[GFSnl]

Hi guys,

I am out so going AI.

Thanks for the game.

I am going to try Abysia next time, or another era of that nation because I have seen them go ballistic in 3 games and no one has come up with an answer to combat them.

The reason I want to try them out is so as I can hopefully have someone show me how to tackle them.

Also I think I designed my pretender to be towards the end game, which doesn't help.

Dooley

It would be nice if you could play a few more turns and make it at least a little more difficult for Abysia. When you leave with still this much territory it will create a huge dis-balance in the game.
As the A.I. is in no way able to make even a semblance of a effective defense.

[Bullock]

Yeah i do agree with GFSnl.
Can you play few more turns before going AI Plz ?

Otherwise should we look for a sub ?

[krpeters]

I'm surprised to see Hinnom going out -- he has lots of provinces and troops left. Did he lose his capital or something? Does he still have any castles?

One reason Abysia may be posing such a problem in multiple games -- easy Zmey access. Those critters are brutal for the cost.

[HoleyDooley]

Does Destruction require a MR check or is it automatic?

[Bullock]

So holey can you fight a little more ? Or do we have to look for a sub ?

[HoleyDooley]

No I can fight on a bit till I have almost nothing left. Its not an issue with me.

If you guys hadn't already realised there is sweet ^&%$% all I can do to stall Abysia, better start making plans.

How much better than the AI will I be? Lets see. Hes is besieging my capital, thus I have one fort in which to make troops, and I have 1 decent standing army, which is basically isolated.

He is going to get the most of my territory very quickly regardless of what I do.

[HoleyDooley]

One reason Abysia may be posing such a problem in multiple games -- easy Zmey access. Those critters are brutal for the cost.



Well I am definately in the noob category, been playing around 10 weeks now,but yeah, those dragons are crazy.
As I said I have seen Abysia go ballistic in two other games. In one, a quite experienced player said he was glad they eventually died out from dom kill, as he had no idea how he was going to beat their army. They died out only because two nations were at war with him. He could have easily beat those two, one of which was mine, one on one.

[Bullock]

At least make you remaining troops focus hinnom (AI could fail on that point) and resist as much as you can for few turns , only then go AI please.
Thanks !

[HoleyDooley]

Its not an issue for me to play on, time is of no consequence. I just think the AI cant do much worse of a job at this point.

None the less, I am kicking on, in my death throes.

[mockingbird]

I encourage you to make a good fight of it. :)

Hinnom can hold out a really long time under the right circumstances. I had a grand time in a game holding my capitol as Hinnom against three different nations and seven? eight? storm attempts over 40+ turns.

PM me (or better yet, find me on irc) if you want some tips and tricks.

[HoleyDooley]

Hi ya Mock,

Note we are allies in Doom and Darkness.

I am doing my best but honestly I was way toooo noobish at the start of this game and really only getting a grip on the play style of Dominions in the last few days.

Given what I have already seen of the my battles so far I can't hold out for long. I haven't designed my pretender good and my research direction has been off as well.

In another game I am down to two provinces and destroying 600+ armies of undead coming at me, doing a great job of holding out and inflicting pain on the #1 race.

But I'll do my best to hang in there.

[tigercub]

i will be turning over to the AI...the learing curve was usefull

thx guys

Tigercub

[Bullock]

Well i guess it's my bad, i haven't asked for relentless players.
But, like for Hooley, can you play few more turns ?
You still have 5 forts and >15 prov there is prolly still something to do and to learn.

[GFSnl]

Hey,

I really have little time. Could you extend the turn for a day.
And maybe go to 48h hosting afterwards as my turns get pretty long.

If none objects of course :)

[Bullock]

Sounds good.
DOne

[mockingbird]

Just posting here in case Ghoul didn't get a new turn notification due to llamaserver wonkiness.

[KeithZ]

Bug Report

A 0g ettin site was found in province 71 (Forest of Gun).

I will never recuit it from that site, but is it still fine if I summon ettins in the later game? (I do have access to it, and it's really useful to me in some situation)

It's the first time I saw this bug, please advice me, thanks.

[Bullock]

yeah it's forbidden as it is said in the OP :)

I m not sure they have exactly the same stat of the one who comes trough magic so you can be caught if u cheat ^^.

[KeithZ]

Sadlly, they are totally the same...

It's the first time I grew my nation so big in a MP game, so I don't want to be thought of cheating. But I dont want to be limited when I need to summon it either.

I will post the screenshot of the messege report here to prove it if I summon every single ettin. It's the best solution in my mind now.

[Bullock]

Well i think the proud Ctis nation will vanish soon.
I totally screwed my attack against Mictlan and the big lack of archers made me lose. Well played mockin, sry to have shown so few resistance.

Does anyone, in good shape, want the admin rights ? Otherwise i keep an eyes on the thread for the usuals needs.

[krpeters]

No, your spy was not mistaken, I really did have 500 troops sitting in one province.

And it is slightly scary how effective Mountain Warriors are in taking out thugs. You're better off attacking them with archers of some kind.

[krpeters]

Hmmm, they're not so effective against Zmeys, though. It seems armor really makes a difference against them. It's a good thing I had those ethereal crossbows handy!

[GFSnl]

Sorry for the stale.

I just don't have the time to do these long games.
I always hated it when someone just didn't plan on doing long turns in advance but it seems I'm in that position now. It's just crazy at work for the foreseeable future and I just can't manage it.
Please pause, and I'll make a post to look for a sub.

[mockingbird]

I could use some more time for this turn anyway.

Can we move to 72 hour turns, please? Mid-late game Mictlan has a lot of micro.

[Bullock]

ive put the game on hold and set the timer to 72h

[krpeters]

Keep in mind that you don't *have* to do everything every turn. I have tons of troops sitting in my castles because I can't be bothered yet to send them out to die. I'll mass a pile and march them out when I need to.

Think of excessive micro as a penalty to level the playing field for those of us with smaller armies :) Do what you can, submit your turn, and if it goes badly, your micro will be easier next turn!

[krpeters]

So is the game officially dead, or are we still waiting for subs?

[Bullock]

Who want to turn him AI?

GFSnl can you play this game at a slower rate maybe 'til we find a sub ?

[krpeters]

We're missing the two most powerful nations in the game... with some epic firepower between them... if we can't get them back, starting a new game makes the most sense I think. Turning them AI would be silly at this point.

[KeithZ]

We're missing the two most powerful nations in the game... with some epic firepower between them... if we can't get them back, starting a new game makes the most sense I think. Turning them AI would be silly at this point.

I'm still here. I'm actually pretty busy in the real life these days but I can still manage to handle this game. I'm ok to wait until Fomoria finding a sub, also, it would be better if he can still play, even if in a slower rate. Anyway, I will hand in my turn as soon as I can.

[Bullock]

K guys despite the research of GFSnl we haven't found any players.

So how much do u still want to wait ? what do u want to do if we don't find a sub ?

Should we declare some1 winner? Turn Fomo AI ? giving up the game ?

I d like to hear from all remaining players.

[mockingbird]

I would rather end the game without any resolution than turn Formoria AI.

[KeithZ]

Agree with mockingbird.

[krpeters]

Ditto, Formoria was a biggie in this game, hard to imagine running it without him.

[Bullock]

I've "bumped" the sub post. If there is no answer i'm planning to close the game at the end of the week, unless some1 has something to say about it.

[Bullock]

no sub nor comments.
I'm closing the game.

Sry for this sad ending and thx all for participating.

[GFSnl]

Sorry