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legowarrior
February 13th, 2012, 01:21 PM
So, we have the elemental nobility, of which 2 are corrupted, one fire king corrupted by death and one earth king corrupted by blood, but why are the queens so pure?
Could we not have a Queen of the Celestial Winds, a Queen of the Elemental Air trapped in the celestial sphere, becoming a combination of Astral and Wind magic?
Or perhaps a Queen of the Living Water, a queen of life in water, trapped by the Pan to provide nourishment for their trees, and now 'corrupted' and fusing Nature and water magic together. I think those would both be valid combinations.
Limne could easily be repurposed to using Nature Magic, while Nephele could become the queen of celestial winds, lured to the realms by the music, and being trapped there.
Knai
February 13th, 2012, 01:38 PM
These would be pretty cool. I'd run it by the CMB developers, as they are still actively modifying the game.
Edi
February 13th, 2012, 03:05 PM
Those are the ones I would do if there were to be an Elemental Royal corrupted by some path of sorcery in each element. They are the most natural fit.
One can also argue that air and water are less prone to be corrupted than Earth (stationary, unmoving etc) or fire (corrupted through the fuel it burns, the fuel having more in common with earth). Air and water are both fluid, capricious and wild, bot as easily tamed as fire and earth.
However, this is CBM stuff, since I doubt that it would get added to Dominions even if the game were being as actively patched as in the past. The Father Illearth and King of Banefires backstories make for great drama, which isn't as readily available from the Celestial/Life angle, those being more "good" (as much as that word applies here).
brxbrx
February 13th, 2012, 04:32 PM
I always thought a cool idea for a spell would be "Redeem Catharsis." It'd be an astral and fire summoning spell, and would make Anthrax unsummonable while giving you a King of Elemental Fire with bonuses against undead and demons (I mean, with a name like Catharsis, what else would you call him?).
As for Pedoseion, I always found him disappointing. He's basically just a King of Elemental Earth but with blood magic. No cool attacks or abilities.
Soyweiser
February 13th, 2012, 05:21 PM
Legowarrior, sounds like a nice mod idea you have there. :D
legowarrior
February 13th, 2012, 05:25 PM
Too busy right now with another mod project, but if anyone wants to run with it, go for it.
Corinthian
February 13th, 2012, 07:19 PM
Father Illearth is probably the best Elemental royalty because he is so cheap. He also have better regeneration than the other EE roys. Mostly he gets relegated to spamming Demon knights forever though.
Bwaha
February 13th, 2012, 09:38 PM
Are you kidding?
He's one of the best SC chassis...
If not the best...
brxbrx
February 13th, 2012, 10:28 PM
My irk with Illearth is thematic rather than strategic, although strategically he's rather dull too.
Bwaha
February 13th, 2012, 10:53 PM
Really...
Kitted properly He's a SC of the first order...
Eye watering really...
brxbrx
February 14th, 2012, 12:15 AM
When I say dull, I mean he doesn't evoke anything in my imagination. It'd be cool if he had a unique ability or something. I'm sure he makes for a great SC, but as a character I find him uninspiring.
Bwaha
February 14th, 2012, 12:26 AM
Let's see, Lead shield, check, stymphalian wings, check, horror hat, check, antimagic amulet...
Yeah...
Magic resist runs @ around 35...
Scary tramplers...
Deathjester
February 14th, 2012, 09:46 AM
So, we have the elemental nobility, of which 2 are corrupted, one fire king corrupted by death and one earth king corrupted by blood, but why are the queens so pure?
Could we not have a Queen of the Celestial Winds, a Queen of the Elemental Air trapped in the celestial sphere, becoming a combination of Astral and Wind magic?
Or perhaps a Queen of the Living Water, a queen of life in water, trapped by the Pan to provide nourishment for their trees, and now 'corrupted' and fusing Nature and water magic together. I think those would both be valid combinations.
Limne could easily be repurposed to using Nature Magic, while Nephele could become the queen of celestial winds, lured to the realms by the music, and being trapped there.
I don't think we necessarily need to cover the other sorcerous paths. I think a Air/Death queen would be cool, what with the winds of death/wailing winds spells and all. Maybe she even onebattlespells one of them. For the water queen other ideas could be a Frozen Queen, a Queen of Ice - or a Rivers of Blood queen who is essentially blood incarnate.
Just throwing other ideas out there..
Edi
February 14th, 2012, 10:24 AM
True. The Blood and Death paths are the ones that are most thematically prone to be corrupting influences and the Air/Death, Water/Blood would be more thematic in that vein.
Did you guys also know that for the four Academies of High Magic, the gem pairings are
- Air Academy: Air/Death
- Fire Academy: Fire/Astral
- Water Academy: Water/Blood
- Earth Academy: Earth/Nature
It would even be a match on that account... ;)
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