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JonBrave
February 15th, 2012, 06:04 PM
So I have some items hanging around at the lab. I randomly place Water Bracelets and Water Robes on minor 1 or 2 W level researchers. Their research point seems to go up by 1 for each item.

Why??

(Unless I'm talking rubbish, which is always possible...)

Torin
February 15th, 2012, 06:20 PM
they got more skilled in magic. +1 research per skill point

JonBrave
February 15th, 2012, 06:23 PM
Per skill point what/when/where? Any path? Because this is W? Has this always happened across any path and I have never noticed?? Manual page reference, plz? :)

Jack_Trowell
February 15th, 2012, 06:30 PM
All paths give +1 to the research value of a mage.

In fact, mage all get as research value some base score (2 or 3 I think) plus the total number of magic ranks (holy doesn't count however).

You can check by yourself when you have a mage with a 10% random path, the base research is one more than for other mage of the same type without the random path.

A few mages get a bonus to their research value (sages for exemple), while other get a malus (Dai oni are very poor for research despite having a great magical power).

Also, note that experience levels also slightly increase research for any mage.

JonBrave
February 15th, 2012, 06:44 PM
Gosh, I had no idea.... p.85 "Indirect Magic" doesn't mention skill level == RP, which is where this would belong?

I have left booster stuff in lab each night when not needed, sounds like I should keep this stuff on my researchers from now on...

Knai
February 15th, 2012, 11:56 PM
Gosh, I had no idea.... p.85 "Indirect Magic" doesn't mention skill level == RP, which is where this would belong?

I have left booster stuff in lab each night when not needed, sounds like I should keep this stuff on my researchers from now on...

It's not skill level = RP, it's skill level + unit based constant = RP. Usually the unit based constant is 2-3, but occasionally you get something like a sage (I believe they have 10), and there are a few that are actually negative (The Chayot has something like -12).

Soyweiser
February 16th, 2012, 10:42 AM
Per skill point what/when/where? Any path? Because this is W? Has this always happened across any path and I have never noticed?? Manual page reference, plz? :)

http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Research#Research_Points

JonBrave
February 17th, 2012, 04:38 PM
Gosh, I had no idea.... p.85 "Indirect Magic" doesn't mention skill level == RP, which is where this would belong?

I have left booster stuff in lab each night when not needed, sounds like I should keep this stuff on my researchers from now on...

It's not skill level = RP, it's skill level + unit based constant = RP. Usually the unit based constant is 2-3, but occasionally you get something like a sage (I believe they have 10), and there are a few that are actually negative (The Chayot has something like -12).

I was not using "==" in a C++ sense! I meant "equates to", i.e. you get some RPs from your magic skill level (also, including boosters). It seems this was omitted from the manual :), Soyweiser's link above explains clearly.

thejeff
February 18th, 2012, 06:19 PM
From the manual (page 90) :
The higher a mage's magic skills, the more research points he or she will have.

OK, the formula isn't given, but it's pretty obvious if you look at a few mages with different #s of paths.

Soyweiser
February 18th, 2012, 07:30 PM
Some mages also have a hidden research malus.