March Madness Newb/Intermediate Game (EA, CBM 1.92) (Running, 10/12 remaining)

[Torgon]

All,

The games I'm in right now are wrapping up or getting towards the endgame and I feel like starting another.

Game is intended to be a newb/intermediate game. To give some guidance I would say fewer than 10 MP games is a good cutoff point. I've got 6 under my belt.

Players 12, Hosted on Llamaserver
Map: Riverlands for 12 + 1
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=775421

Proposed Rules:
Research: Difficult
Gold: 125
Sites: 55
Hosting: Every 30 hours until a majority want to go longer

All other's standard.

Diplomacy: NAPs not binding, but don't think anyone is going to ever trust you again if you break one. You stab someone in the back expect to get stabbed right back. Trades binding.

All standard exploits banned: Bogarus orders, autospawn locking forts, filling labs, etc.

No nations banned.

I'm taking Marverni

Players (7/12)
Torgon: Marverni
Ulius: Niefelheim
Odeoderok: Sauromatia
HoleyDooley: Abyssia (defeated)
Mattyburn: Caelum
Immaculate: Yomi (defeated)
Dojango: Fomoria
Aderion: Arco (defeated)
Excist: Agartha (defeated)
Sansanjuan: TC
Jotwebe: Pangaea
Shardphoenix: Tir Na'Nog (defeated)

[ulius]

Hi,

I'm a total newb to MP, and my first (different) game is about to start. But I think I can handle another one and would like to join this too.

My race of choice: Niefelheim, Sons of Winter.

[odeoderok]

Hi all,

I'd like to join as Sauromatia. I've probably played about 10 MPs, but I'm coming back from a bit of a break. And I was rubbish before the break anyway :)

[HoleyDooley]

Arcoscephale thanks.

[mattyburn7]

I'll play...Not sure who yet though

[Immaculate]

In as Yomi.

I also prefer default resources gold and supplies unless there is a good reason for increasing them. I like the extra research and magic sites though...

[Torgon]

Alright we have 6. Four more to go.

[Immaculate]

Hey Torgan,

I was hoping you might explain why you like the 125% resources, income and supplies? Normally the default sits well and all nations are designed and balanced for default. By increasing these values we practice play that is suboptimal in the majority of games. I was hoping you might provide your insight for the proposed settings.

[dojango]

I assume you meant "Bogus orders forbidden" instead of "Bogarus orders"?

any rate, I'd like to try formoria.

[Torgon]

Yep. Typo. Meant Bogarus orders.

As to the settings. The only ones I'd really like to try is the hard (difficult) research and higher magic site frequency. Main reasons are that I want to play a game in which the early and mid game last a little longer before massive battle magic takes over everything, and I like games in which a you see more indie mages popping up.

The 125's were just to make those conventional armies a little bigger and a little more fun and exciting. 125 doesn't seem to dramaticially change how the game is played, but I'm happy to put them back down to 100.

[Immaculate]

Cool. and i too would like to see a longer early and mid-game so i am happy with slower research.

[HoleyDooley]

Agreed. Longer early and mid is good.

I prefer scales set to normal (100) as 125 kind of negates what is trying to be achieved by allowing more income, more castles, more researchers etc.

I think I will go back to my favourite Abysia please.

I have just started Arco in another game and its not going well. I need more experience with them which I shall get in that game.

Cheers.

[Aderion]

Hi everyone,

I would like to join this game. My first choice after looking at the already registered players/nations in the first page was Abysia, but if Holey takes it, I will go with Arco then.

[mattyburn7]

I've made up my mind. I'll try Caelum.

Thanks!

[Excist]

Hi, I've completed 2 and in 4, 1-2 of which will probably end soon and the other 2, my strata are very simple so I don't foresee having to spend too long on those turns.

I'm trying to decide if I have the time for a 5th, but this is tempting both due to the settings (including the high resource/income) and I'm seeing a lot of my fav peeps in here.

Please hold a spot for me and I'll try to decide tonight if I'm in and select a race from what's available.

My fav race so far is Agartha but I'm always willing to throw some training wheels on a new race and give it a spin.

Also, to support my vote for the scales/research settings, Id like to point out that adjusting both is more balanced than adjusting 1

If you slow down research then you are giving bless strats a boost, whereas if you increase income/resources then you give scales a boost (since each additional +6% from Order becomes effectively +8% for example, and each -6% from sloth becomes -8% after the + 25% modifier and so on for the rest of the scales).

Doing both changes keeps the bless strat nations balanced with the Eco/research nations.

[sansanjuan]

Please hold a spot for me. Never tried ctis so please hold (may reconsider nation)
Thanks
ssj

[jotwebe]

I'd like to go with Pangaea.

Same nation as in A Learning Experience, but different settings and a different build. Hopefully it'll be interesting to see how it'll go... differently...

[sansanjuan]

Please switch me from Ctis to TC (if not taken).
Thanks
ssj

[Torgon]

Okay. We're up to 11.

I'll hold it open for one more for awhile longer, but if no one signs up by end of day tomorrow. I'll go ahead and close it off and put the game up on Llamaserver for pretenders.

As far as maps go, for 11-12 I think this version of riverland would be best:

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=775421

Any objections?

[Torgon]

Hi, I've completed 2 and in 4, 1-2 of which will probably end soon and the other 2, my strata are very simple so I don't foresee having to spend too long on those turns.

I'm trying to decide if I have the time for a 5th, but this is tempting both due to the settings (including the high resource/income) and I'm seeing a lot of my fav peeps in here.

Please hold a spot for me and I'll try to decide tonight if I'm in and select a race from what's available.

My fav race so far is Agartha but I'm always willing to throw some training wheels on a new race and give it a spin.

Also, to support my vote for the scales/research settings, Id like to point out that adjusting both is more balanced than adjusting 1

If you slow down research then you are giving bless strats a boost, whereas if you increase income/resources then you give scales a boost (since each additional +6% from Order becomes effectively +8% for example, and each -6% from sloth becomes -8% after the + 25% modifier and so on for the rest of the scales).

Doing both changes keeps the bless strat nations balanced with the Eco/research nations.

I'm inclined to agree with Excist, if we're going to go with slower research, which it sounds like most everyone wants. I think a slight bump in income is in order.

I think 125 is a good compromise. It doesn't end up being to dramatic but it does help the scales builds early.

[HoleyDooley]

Excellent, a wrap around map, my preference over a square, hide in the corner, screwed if your in the middle type map.

[Torgon]

I'm going to go ahead and close us off at 11 just so we can get started. Since we're only going to have 11 the Riverlands map might be a little big.

There's another good map by Elmokki with a more reasonable number of provinces for 11 people.

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=440

[Shardphoenix]

How about you allow me in instead? As Pangaea and Maverni are already taken - I`d like to take Tir na n`Og. :)

[Immaculate]

Awesome. Lets launch!

EDIT: Start with a 30h timer instead of 24h. its still a one-day turn-around in 90% of cases but it means that those of us with long work days don't miss out because we submit at 11pm the one night and can't get home until 12 the next... Thanks.

[Shardphoenix]

I think a slight bump in income is in order.

I think 125 is a good compromise. It doesn't end up being to dramatic but it does help the scales builds early.I believe, CBM already bumps scale builds enough. Higher gold will hurt those, who prefer awake SC or high bless. :)

[Torgon]

Perfect, Shardphoenix is in and we officially have 12.

Also, I agree with Immaculate on the slightly > 24 h timer. We'll start with 30 hours for now and see how it goes. Anyone have any objections?

[sansanjuan]

Perfect, Shardphoenix is in and we officially have 12.

Also, I agree with Immaculate on the slightly > 24 h timer. We'll start with 30 hours for now and see how it goes. Anyone have any objections?

I say light 'er up!
-ssj

[ulius]

Let's get this started!

[Shardphoenix]

So, when do we start? I don`t see this game in "Waiting for pretenders" on Llamaserver. %)

[Torgon]

So, when do we start? I don`t see this game in "Waiting for pretenders" on Llamaserver. %)

Sorry about that guys. Meant to put the game up this morning but I ran in to some unforeseen travel difficulties.

Game is up. Start submitting pretenders and lets get this rolling.

[Excist]

Agarthan God, Rammstein is uploaded :D

Looking forward to a fun game

[Immaculate]

Catholicism loaded!

[jotwebe]

Tremble, mortals, and despair! Jean-Baptiste Lamarck has come. It is a mysterious pretender twisted into the shape of a joke. Or was it the other way around? Beware its smelly excretions!

Oh, yeah: Pangaea ready to rumble.

[Excist]

lol, I don't know who you are jotwebe, but I like you already.

[jotwebe]

Dwarf Fortress in-jokes make you friends and give you admirers whereever you go on the internet :D (as long as "wherever you go" is "forums for grognardy fantasy games")

[HoleyDooley]

Odeoderok: Sauromatia "cheated"

I had CMB enabled, though it didn't state it in the first post. Correction it did.

EA, CBM 1.92)

Guess Odeoderok: Sauromatia didn't.

[odeoderok]

WTF, the game says I cheated :)

I designed my god with cbm1.92 on and nothing else, but there's a message that "it's too powerful and has been reduced in power". This has never happened to me before, any ideas what might be causing it?

-odeoderok

[HoleyDooley]

I have no idea other than incorrect mod at pretender creation, others with more experience might.

Anyway, better prepare another one for when the game gets reset and is awaiting your pretender.

[odeoderok]

Ok. But since I had cbm1.92 on, the problem will probably just repeat. But we'll see.

[HoleyDooley]

Sure, but maybe before we restart someone if they have any other knowledge will lets us know.

Is it a fresh install of Dom3? Correct patch? I don't know, just trying to think of an explanation.

[Shardphoenix]

Looks like you have to re-download CBM, odeoderok. Most likely, your version got corrupted somehow.

[Torgon]

I'll roll it back to uploading pretenders. Go ahead and resubmit and well try again.

[Torgon]

Okay. Game is rolled back to submitting pretenders.

Odeoderok, resubmit your pretender and send me a PM when you have so I know when to restart the game.

All, you just received a second first turn. Ignore that one, I was just double checking that the problem repeated.

[HoleyDooley]

Failed again.

[jotwebe]

Wait... what? We all have to resubmit? :confused:

[Torgon]

As I said. Ignore that second resend. It was with the same pretenders with no resubmit. I just wanted to make sure the problem repeated.

[Torgon]

Wait... what? We all have to resubmit? :confused:

Nope. The pretenders are all still uploaded. It's just waiting on me to hit the start button again.

Odeoderok just needs to resubmit after a fresh install. After he has resubmitted I'll start the game back up. Hopefully the problem will not happen again.

[jotwebe]

Oh, all right.

[odeoderok]

Thanks for your patience everyone, I'll resubmit in a couple of hours.

[odeoderok]

Ok, I've resent the pretender. I deleted everything in my mods folder and put cbm 1.92 there. Let's see how it pans out.

[odeoderok]

Ok, no more cheating message, sorry about the delay and good luck everybody.

[Torgon]

Great. Everything appears to be working. Good luck everyone.

[Immaculate]

thank you for organizing and trouble-shooting.

and yes, good luck to all.

[Torgon]

anyone know where arco is?

[dojango]

hey, my computer died. I'll need a day or so to try and extract Dom 3 from the hard drive, if it's even possibe.

[Shardphoenix]

Hm... If Torgon doesn`t appear RIGHT NOW - we`ll have our first stale. :(

[dojango]

Yeah, perhaps I wasn't entirely clear, but I'll need to either have the game paused or find a sub while I sort out some computer issues.

[Torgon]

Apppologize for missing this exchange.

For future reference, if you need an extension PM me so I get an email notification. I don't always check the forum, but I'm constantly checking my email. I'll pause the game for now. Let me know when you find a sub.

Although it looks like argatha has submitted already, do you still need an extension?

[mattyburn7]

Dojango is Formoria

[Torgon]

Ok. I postponed hosting for 48 hours. Let me know if you need more time.

Sorry about missing this guys and allowing the stale. I've had a bit of an emergency at work this week and haven't been checking the thread that often.

[mattyburn7]

No Worries. I'm helping LL with BSOD. I tend to be on the board quite a bit. If you'd like a 2nd pair of eyes watching I'd be happy to help...or if nothing else if I see something in future I"ll send you PM.
Cheers.

[Torgon]

So i extended it another 24 hours. Hopefully we'll have a sub in shortly. Thanks for the patience.

[dojango]

OK, back in business

[mattyburn7]

Dojango. I sent you a PM awhile ago, but I know you've been busy with computer issues. I'll revise and resend. Cheers!

[Torgon]

Awesome.

[Immaculate]

i need a 24h extension

[Torgon]

i need a 24h extension

Done. Extended 24 hours. Also if you need an extension drop me a PM so I can get an email alert.

[jotwebe]

Anybody want to trade me (Pangaea) an antimagic ammy?

[ulius]

I'm travelling and I should have internet access. If I don't submit my next turn in time something went wrong, but I'll be back soon. So please extend time if I haven't submitted.

[Shardphoenix]

Glorious nation of Tir na n'Og wants to buy fire gems.
Also, if someone`s interested, we`ve got a war trophy - Endless cauldron of broth. As we don`t really need it, we`re ready to sell it for low price.

[HoleyDooley]

PM sent Sharp.

[Immaculate]

I am impressed with Maverni. In the right hands they are an excellent nation. Good job Torgon.

[Excist]

I'm travelling and I should have internet access. If I don't submit my next turn in time something went wrong, but I'll be back soon. So please extend time if I haven't submitted.

Ulius is the last to turn in his turn this turn, so I am suspecting he may have overestimated the internet connectivity in the boondocks from whence he departed to.

6 hours left until he stales..

[Torgon]

I'm travelling and I should have internet access. If I don't submit my next turn in time something went wrong, but I'll be back soon. So please extend time if I haven't submitted.

Ulius is the last to turn in his turn this turn, so I am suspecting he may have overestimated the internet connectivity in the boondocks from whence he departed to.

6 hours left until he stales..

Yep. I noticed. I extended by another 6 hours. Hopefully he shows up soon. I know he's in a war with tien and missing a turn could be problematic.

[Torgon]

I am impressed with Maverni. In the right hands they are an excellent nation. Good job Torgon.

They're definitely underestimated. But CBM also really buffed them by making boar warriors recruit anywhere. But even without that they're pretty strong.

[Shardphoenix]

But CBM also really buffed them by making boar warriors recruit anywhere
I think, +4 str battlefield-wide national spell was even a bigger buff.

[Torgon]

Ehh... You have earth mages coming out of your ears so its not like you couldn't throw down a few strength of giants pretty easily, and its not like its that far away at ench 3. Strength of boars just gets you there faster and with less micro management on the battlefield.

Basically just makes them less of rush target, since they can punch through armor fairly easily.

[ulius]

internet broke down yesterday night so I couldn't submit. Have time to submit later, hope it doesn't break down again.

[sansanjuan]

internet broke down yesterday night so I couldn't submit. Have time to submit later, hope it doesn't break down again.

We could turn off autohost for you perhaps until you're steady? Tor?
ssj

[Excist]

The problem wasn't the autohost it was the 6 hour delay Torgon gave him for traveling wasn't long enough for him to deal with his internet problems.

[sansanjuan]

The problem wasn't the autohost it was the 6 hour delay Torgon gave him for traveling wasn't long enough for him to deal with his internet problems.

Yeah. I'm just saying if he is still having internet issues we could turn off autohost instead of setting a fixed time/delay.
-ssj

[Excist]

And I'm saying if he is the last to turn his turn in and is having periods of not being able to access the internet, it is actually better for autohost to run so he can do his 2 turns back to back when he does get internet access.

If he turns his turn in at hour 15 and then has to wait until the host runs he may lose internet access again within that time.

Keeping autohost on and extending the turn 12 hours at a time until he gets internet access is a better solution.

[Torgon]

I'm going to extend the hosting another 24 hours, Ulius, get your turn in as soon as you can. PM me if we need to work something else out.

[sansanjuan]

Does nief need a sub?
ssj

[Torgon]

I think he might. It looks like he's going to stall on this turn as well. Only might be problematic getting a sub for him, since he's not exactly in a great position with Tien taking him for quite the ride.

[sansanjuan]

There is no honor in fighting sleeping giants....
TC

[Torgon]

There is no honor in fighting sleeping giants....
TC

I'm going to send him one more PM, if no response I'm going to start looking for someone to sub in for him.

Would you mind calling off your war at least for a few turns for whomever comes in?

[mattyburn7]

Just an FYI Torgon. He is in another game and we are looking to call in a sub there also.

[sansanjuan]

There is no honor in fighting sleeping giants....
TC

I'm going to send him one more PM, if no response I'm going to start looking for someone to sub in for him.

Would you mind calling off your war at least for a few turns for whomever comes in?

Roger that. I've been submitting turns assuming nief would be would be (fighting) back. I will stop further expansion into nief provs but do plan on continuing a siege initiated a couple turns back when they were active. Sound fair? I can resubmit tonight.
ssj

[Excist]

I would recommend just leaving a scout seiging so they at least have some options when they sub in.

[Torgon]

Looks like we have a sub for Nief. Everyone welcome Nimiria to the game.

[Nimiria]

Hello all :)

I am taking over as a sub for Niefelheim.

I hope you will give me a bit time to see what I have and what is up. As I see now I am besieged already, would be nice if this can be stopped somehow :)

[HoleyDooley]

Welcome Nimiria.

HHMMM name sounds familiar.

[sansanjuan]

Welcome,
TC will send a messenger shortly to discuss terms.
ssj

[Torgon]

It looks like Yomi's gone AI. Don't really blame him as we was going down pretty fast and was about to loose his capital.

[Immaculate]

yeah- my best defenses didn't hold and it was about to go from 2vs1 to 3vs1.

I really didn't have any answer to your army set-up Torgan. i think that maverni, especially the way you played them, are very good at taking out yomi.

So yeah, i went AI- figured it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway.

[Torgon]

yeah- my best defenses didn't hold and it was about to go from 2vs1 to 3vs1.

I really didn't have any answer to your army set-up Torgan. i think that maverni, especially the way you played them, are very good at taking out yomi.

So yeah, i went AI- figured it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway.

Yep. I'm actually not really sure how I'd counter what I was doing as yomi. A pack of level 3 priests plus 4 or 5 level 5 priests is going to absolutely ruin your best forces. And the other option of switching away from demons and to conventional forces isn't a great one either as marv's troops win without much of a contest against bakemono and bandits.

Only thing I might have done differently is research targets. You had construction 4, but that alone really isn't enough to make Dai Oni scary. They just die with a bunch of gear on.

I might have gone for some evoc w/ a little conj first. A bunch of Hannya's and Dia Oni's hurling fireballs and flares with phoenix power would have put a pretty big dent in my army. Alternatively you could have raced up Enchantment for skeli spam and flaming arrows. Skelli spam probably wouldn't have overwhelmed my troops, but it would have distracted mages from your expensive demons. And flaming arrows w/ bakemono archers is pretty devastating.

[Immaculate]

agreed - though in my defense i did have a plan - it just required a tiny bit more time to come to fruition.

[Aderion]

Just wanted to let everyone know that I (Arco) will go AI this turn. Abysia and Pangaea destroyed me and there really isn't anything I can do.

[Torgon]

Yea. Just saw the big drop in gem income this turn. I'm guessing they just took your capital?

Which one (aby or pan) ended up taking it?

[Aderion]

Aby took it.

[jotwebe]

You did a nasty number on my pretender, though. I sure promised myself never to use an SC pretender against an astral nation again. And taught me to put awe-immune bodyguards on my male commanders when facing oreiads. So congratulations on a well-fought defence.

[Aderion]

Dispite the foreseeable outcome of our war, I had some fun trying out some stuff, e.g. setting up a communion for the first time.

Also the succesfull assasinations against your commanders gave e some satisfaction...

[Torgon]

HD just let me know he's going to be out of town for the next few days and wont have internet access. He's going to try to get to an internet cafe, but just to be safe I'm going to push the hosting interval back to 72 hours until he gets back.

[Torgon]

I changed the hosting interval back to 30 hours. HD let me know if you need more time.

[HoleyDooley]

Torgon I wont be home till Sunday morning now but I can at least visit the int cafe twice a day.

So 30 hrs is fine thanks.

[Excist]

Can I have an extra day to get my turn in and maybe move to a 48h schedule now if there are no objections?

[Torgon]

Sure. What does everyone else think about moving to a 48 hour schedule?

[jotwebe]

I'm in favour.

[sansanjuan]

I 3rd it.
-ssj

[Torgon]

Alright, unless anyone else raises their hand to object I'm going to go ahead and extend turns to 48 hours.

Oh, also just wanted to say that it's been a really good game so far. Thanks everyone.

[Torgon]

Alright, unless anyone else raises their hand to object I'm going to go ahead and extend turns to 48 hours.

Oh, also just wanted to say that it's been a really good game so far. Thanks everyone.

[Torgon]

Just wanted to let everyone know that I extended the timer by 24 hours at the request of Tien.

[Torgon]

Looks like Sansanjuan is having some RL issues. I've delayed the game another 24.

Sansanjuan let me know if you need more time.

[sansanjuan]

Looks like Sansanjuan is having some RL issues. I've delayed the game another 24.

Sansanjuan let me know if you need more time.

Calm in the storm. Should get it in tonight. Sorry all.
ssj

[mattyburn7]

No Worries Mate. We all need to lead our lives first and foremost!

[Torgon]

I've had three request for extension this weekend. I'm extending the clock by 36 hours. Let me know if anyone needs more time.

[sansanjuan]

T
Not sure if you saw my posts for a 12 hr extension. Chained to the wheel here at work (picture a fatter Conan the Barbarian)
ssj

[sansanjuan]

Tor,
That was.... unfortunate. What happened? Everything ok in RL?
ssj

[Torgon]

Guys. Appologize for stalling last turn. Emergency at work over the last couple days. I'm actually going to extend the next turn for 48 hours so I can take care of it.

[sansanjuan]

T
You may want to consider adding a backup admin. I think some of other players qualify. I understand RL conflicts all too well. With you busy my extension requests did not process and my other adversaries got a free whack :hurt: ... Plus no new summons, mages, gear or rituals. I don't want a rollback (evil) or any special consideration. I'd just like a plan b if you get busy.
ssj

[Torgon]

Sorry about that guys. I had to leave for china on a work emergency last week.

I'm back now and should be good. But I agree a back up admin would be a good idea. Anyone want to take on the task?

[mattyburn7]

I normally would, but I'm going to be on vacation from 6/22 to 6/31. In fact I was going to ask that there is a 75% chance I can get my turns in during that time, but to be safe can you change hosting to every 96 hours? I'll do my best in there but it'll be a big help.

[sansanjuan]

Vacation for me June 16 to 24. Will have Internet access "in theory" during that time.
ssj

[sansanjuan]

Anyone else having trouble with llamaserver accepting turns? Does not look "stuck" in the usual sense.
ssj

[mattyburn7]

Can you delay 24 hours please?

[jotwebe]

Hah, the business with the globals this turn was hilarious. See what happens when you dispel one of Pangaea's globals? It comes back BIGGER and BETTER and squashes yours like a BUG in the bargain. RAAAAHHH! Bring it ON with your puny astral magic. Toss your pearls before the MONSTER BOARS!

:angel :p:D:p :angel

[mattyburn7]

Downside: Pangaea's Dominion is driving me lower and lower
Upside: Pangaea's global brought the Eagle Kings wealth they haven't seen in years!

[jotwebe]

Traveling 12th to 14th. If the current admin (Torgon?) could set the hosting time to Sunday 15th, 18-ish GMT, that'd be great.

[Torgon]

Traveling 12th to 14th. If the current admin (Torgon?) could set the hosting time to Sunday 15th, 18-ish GMT, that'd be great.

Sure, I wont let it host without you.

[sansanjuan]

Fudge. Had no intention of staling. Thought I'd requested more time.
ssj

[Torgon]

Yep. You did request more time. I needed it too (stalled as well). For some reason Llama server didn't process the extension I put in.

Oh well, was it a super critical turn for you? Only thing I really missed out on was a turn of forgings.

[sansanjuan]

Lost 3 thugs/gear. Quite painful but no rollback requeted.
ssj

[jotwebe]

Oh, and Pangaean diplomats protest Maverni's cowardly attack in blatant disregard of our NAP-3. Not even a declaration of war! Truly, the druids have neither honour nor manners.

[Torgon]

The druids are throwing out one last attempt to stop the dreaded hoards of naked women before they have completely cornered the gold market. Generally, GONB is a global up there with FOTA and Arcane Nexus. Put it up and you should generally consider yourself at war with the world.

But I'll be honest, I don't really see this ending well for anyone who is not Pangea. You've played a good game jotwebe. I've already blown my astral load on an unsuccessful dispel attempt at GONB. Bottom line is that Tien and I wasted too much time fighting each other while you rolled through a bunch of the weaker nations. Poor decision making on our part. I'll keep fighting, but I'd be surprised if this ended in anything but a Pan victory.

Well played.

[Shardphoenix]

You still can master enslave everything you see. Works like charm on naked women.

[mattyburn7]

*sigh* Not for me it doesn't

[jotwebe]

Hey, I don't even have that many naked women. Not getting any (pun intended) in max order dominion. GoNB is pretty crazy I'll admit.

[mattyburn7]

Can you postpone 24 hours please?

[Torgon]

Hey, I don't even have that many naked women. Not getting any (pun intended) in max order dominion. GoNB is pretty crazy I'll admit.

And dirt cheep.

[sansanjuan]

I'm cursed... 3rd inadvertant stale.
-ssj

[jotwebe]

Just in case someone missed the announcement: Maverni overwrote my GoNB this turn ... with the ARCANE NEXUS! :eek::eek::eek: FYI it's at least on the order of 250 gems strong. The druids need to be taken down, quickly!

[jotwebe]

Maybe we should officially increase the hosting interval to five days or something along that lines? Seems we end up with that anyway...

[Torgon]

All,

Just want to apologize for the recent delays. I've had a couple crazy RL problems over the past few weeks. I think they're starting to wind down and I should be back in full dom 3 form soon.

Torgon

[Torgon]

All,

I also changed the hosting interval to 72 hours. Although I've been pretty liberal granting extensions. I'm generally just following the rule: if were within 12-18 hours of hosting and a number of turns haven't been submitted or if one of the big ones (Tien, Pangea, Sauro, or myself) is missing I delay for another 24.

Should I be more draconian and just let it host? Opinions?

[mattyburn7]

I say your game, your call. Generally I don't babysit like that most of the time...I prefer for players to ask, but that's just me. I'm ok either way.

[jotwebe]

I think I'd prefer hosting unless asked with the 72h timer.

Gives the option of submitting partial turns and resubmitting as you go with less risk of the turn suddenly hosting. Nothing more annoying then a stale with a mostly-finished .2h on the drive. If the deadline keeps moving back, on the other hand, it tempts me to procrastinate.

[sansanjuan]

FSU leverages home court advantage in big win....
Nice defence Fomoria.
-TC

[Torgon]

It's great when your enemy had a global up for half the game that conveniently grew an army for you across his entire nation.

Pangea's Enchanted forest...arcane domination...more astral mages than I know how to use...nice

[sansanjuan]

Any idea what's happening with Pan? Can't have a valid game with them (a very large presence) staling.
-ssj

[mattyburn7]

I'm not sure, but he is staling in another game that he is leading (of course in that one he's so strong it doesn't matter)

[Torgon]

I'm hoping he shows back up. It would really be a blow if he had to drop out now. Just starting to get interesting.

I was trying to make sure it didn't host without him, but my wife and I were on Vacation the past week and a half and I missed a few.

Until we hear otherwise, would anyone object to a temporary suspension?

[sansanjuan]

Agreed. Turn off quick host?
ssj

[Torgon]

Quick host turned off for now. Hopefully he comes back. I'd hate to have to call the game now.

[sansanjuan]

We could try looking for a sub after waiting a few days.
ssj

[mattyburn7]

I agree. This game appears competitive enough that calling in a sub would be a viable move. Just as an FYI. He's in another game I'm in and has staled 6 turns in a row (give or take).

[Torgon]

Agree. I'll post a request for a sub up on the forum, I'll give him a couple more days.

He's definitely not in a bad spot and someone could easily take over for him. But I will still rain druidic death down upon him.

[Torgon]

Okay, I'm officially putting up a request for a sub. Hopefully someone bites. I'll put one up here and on Dom3mods.

[Torgon]

So I'm not getting any bites yet on the sub, hopefully someone will materialize this weekend.

If not I think we should probably just call the game. I don't think setting him to AI would be a good solution. How much longer does everyone want to wait?

[sansanjuan]

I'd bump that thread and give it another week.
My $0.02
ssj

[mattyburn7]

I concur..Ashame to pack it in at this point.

[Torgon]

Sounds Good. I'm going to keep bumping the threads. We'll give it another week.

[Torgon]

Alright. I'm officially calling the game. Still no interest from anyone to sub in.

Great game all around, too bad it had to end this way.

I guess it ends in a draw :(.

[sansanjuan]

Tor,
Thanks for hosting. It was an awesome game. Learned my nation pretty well. Hats off to allies and adversaries. See you all next time...
-ssj

[Torgon]

No problem. I enjoyed it. Always amazes me how long these games last. We've been playing this one since march!

Best of luck to you all, and I'm sure I'll see you in future games.