Game of Dorian, military maneuvers ended, earcaraxe wins

[earcaraxe]

this game is intended to be a fast paced one.

llamaserver
cbm 1.92
streamlands
30 hrs hosting
quickhost
middle age
hof 15
no water nations
number of players: 7
victory: consensus

no recruiting 0 gold ettins from sites (bogus orders, etc.)

ghoul34: ashdod
ossa: ermor
tigercub: pythium
holeydooley: shinuyama
austen: mictlan
valerius: eriu
earcaraxe: abysia

[Valerius]

Well, based on how things are going in No_NAPs_Land I should have an opening for another game any turn now so please sign me up for Van (actually my first time playing MA Van under CBM 1.92).

[earcaraxe]

yeah, i thought it will boil down to this :)

very welcome!

(and i would like to thank u for that idea of 30 hrs-hosting, i got it from u and find it a great idea, use it in nearly all my games)

[ghoul31]

I'll give Ashdod another try.
Even though they are pretty weak in CBM 1.92

[Ossa]

I'd like to try Ermor.

[earcaraxe]

welcome!

game has been set up.

[HoleyDooley]

Shinumaya thx.

[Austen]

I want in.. will say who I am in a few :P

[Austen]

C'Tis

[HoleyDooley]

The map link is old or broken or something......

[tigercub]

ok i am in Pythium...

Tigercub

[HoleyDooley]

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=713433

This link works though...not sure if its the correct version though.


OMG there is a link on that page to a newer version.

Here it is.

http://nikita.tnnet.fi/~elmokki/

[earcaraxe]

we are gonna use the 2010.05.09 version. thanks holeydooley!

[Valerius]

yeah, i thought it will boil down to this :)

You probably also realized that I'd go back and forth between Eriu and Van. So please change me to Eriu ... I think. Well, a pretender for one of those two nations will show up at the server. :p

(and i would like to thank u for that idea of 30 hrs-hosting, i got it from u and find it a great idea, use it in nearly all my games)

I'd like to take the credit but it wasn't my idea. I think I've sometimes used it but I took the idea from someone else who was using it as their hosting interval. But I'm glad it's working out well!

[earcaraxe]

ok, i will update your nation when we have started the game :)

[Austen]

I'm waffling also. Think I want to go Mictlan.

[earcaraxe]

its first come first served then.

[earcaraxe]

and as i already said the game has been set up on the server, waiting for pretenders

[earcaraxe]

guys, lets pretend that a 24 hrs hosting interval has been implemented on pretender creation. we are waiting for four still.

[Valerius]

Lol. :) Sorry about that. About 75% sure I'm going with Van but I haven't decided on a build yet. Promise I'll have my pretender ready within 12 hours.

[earcaraxe]

austen, we are waiting for u.

[Valerius]

I think Austen sent in the Mictlan pretender so we are waiting on Ossa's Ermor.

But, um, that's given me time to change my mind again. :p Can you kick out my Van pretender so I can switch to Eriu? I can have a new pretender ready in the next few hours.

[earcaraxe]

oh, yes, sorry austen. i just didnt find ur ctis:)

vanheim deleted.

[earcaraxe]

so ossa, we are all waiting for u.

im gonna reopen recruitment when the 24hrs imaginary hosting time expires. (about 4 hours later)

[earcaraxe]

I have reopened the recruitment for ossa's place. whoever applies here AND sends in his pretender first, will play. ossa, u still have time, altho im not sure how much.

[earcaraxe]

Ok, ossa is officially gone, we are just looking for the last player to start.

[Ossa]

Sorry for the delay - I was sick and forgot the look up the games which I enrolled to. May I still send in (right now;) ?

[earcaraxe]

absolutely :)


im glad u r back and healthy!

[Valerius]

Wait! I want to switch back to Van. J/K :p

[earcaraxe]

eriu deleted

[earcaraxe]

umm, sorry, i didnt know what "J/K" meant. please valerius send ur pretender in again.

[Valerius]

Sure, pretender sent. Sorry about that.

[Legendary League]

EDIT: Guess not.

[Valerius]

Lol. Now that's an interesting start location. Not as bad as my start in Tarrax2 but that position was so bad that the game could have sent me a message the first turn saying "you have lost." :p

[Austen]

Did Pythium ask for a delay? First turn has been out there more than 30 hours and still has quite some time to go before it processes.

[earcaraxe]

i guess llamaservers troubles delayed hosting.

tigerclub, are u still with us? let me remind u that "this game is intended to be a fast paced one."

i know its only one turn, so i dont intend it to be nudging.

[Valerius]

So all my other games are no diplo so let's get some talking in this thread. :)

News from Eriu this month: The Elephant Corps mercenary band will likely not be receiving a contract renewal after an unfortunate run-in with some hydras resulted in a downsizing of their workforce. However, Hannibal himself still remains alive and vows to regroup from this setback (and never work for Eriu again even if they do ask).

[earcaraxe]

I have heard, that tigercub is thinking about giving the game up. I have turned quickhost off and delayed hosting until this is solved.

Tigercub, i would like you to know that im looking forward to getting to know you more as a player, and playing with you in games in the future (as it happened with valerius, ghoul and ossa just to name the players from this game). and I would like to express that - perhaps you also think that too - without setbacks one cant work on his limits learn how to play better and experience success. I consider your position quite potent still, and i was surprised to hear about ur current thoughts ( i admit i see ur position from a different aspect).

whatever your choice is, its up to u, but i would like u to know that I will consider it a loss if u didnt remain.

[tigercub]

I have heard, that tigercub is thinking about giving the game up. I have turned quickhost off and delayed hosting until this is solved.

Tigercub, i would like you to know that im looking forward to getting to know you more as a player, and playing with you in games in the future (as it happened with valerius, ghoul and ossa just to name the players from this game). and I would like to express that - perhaps you also think that too - without setbacks one cant work on his limits learn how to play better and experience success. I consider your position quite potent still, and i was surprised to hear about ur current thoughts ( i admit i see ur position from a different aspect).

whatever your choice is, its up to u, but i would like u to know that I will consider it a loss if u didnt remain.

Last i saw i was the only player with the turn in!

so turn quickhost back on and get on with it!

[HoleyDooley]

Game on it seems, set the to auto thanks.

[earcaraxe]

oh, k, let slip the dogs of war!:D

[tigercub]

ill do a turn on sunday (the first)then i am going away untill the 4th...sorry to hold things up if you need to roll a turn or 2 i understand...

Tiger

[earcaraxe]

no problem, we gonna wait u.

[ghoul31]

Ashdod is definatly unplayable in CBM 1.92

going AI

[Austen]

Hey guys, I went AI. I still have a few guys running around, but I think I may just not be cut out for Dom 3. I've been playing an awful lot lately, and I have lost literally every fight to this point that wasn't just a complete pushover for my team and quite a few that were.

I'm also not getting any better. I'm clearly wrecked here, despite the fact that I was in a pretty good position. Rather than spending the amazing amount of time that I do plotting moves that turn my enormous piles of powerful units into piles of corpses and items, I think I need to try and learn what I'm doing a little better.

Thanks for the game and maybe I will catch you guys in another game sometime if I ever get some sort of clue how to play. :)

[earcaraxe]

this turn i got 5 random events, 4 positive, and one just like the spell "Black Death", in a province where it is most damaging. Im 99% sure Shinuyama has violated our NAP.

[earcaraxe]

and a blight too.

life is sure adventurous in Towen :D

[Valerius]

Please postpone hosting by 24 hours as I won't have a chance to complete my turn today. Thanks!

[earcaraxe]

postponed.

[HoleyDooley]

All done in on my end.

Time for the AI to see out the last 2 battles.

[earcaraxe]

thanks for participating HD!

[earcaraxe]

guys, what do u think about switching to 48 hrs hosting? im in favor of it.

[earcaraxe]

hosting postponed by 12 hrs.

[Valerius]

I definitely support switching to 48 hours. And thanks for the postponement as I would have staled without it.

[earcaraxe]

i postponed hosting by 18 hrs again.

[earcaraxe]

postponed by 18 hrs.

[earcaraxe]

postponed by 18 hrs again. i dont plan to do this forever tho.

[Ossa]

Due to an unforseen accident the hall of remembrance just burned down - and with it, all papers on documents were lost. I'm herewith cancelling all of my NAPs.

[earcaraxe]

ossa was so kind to agree on 48 hrs hosting, so i have set it.

[earcaraxe]

guys, due to RL events I wont have much time in the next 6 days. perhaps i will do my turn tomorrow, but it requires a lot of planning and im not sure i will have 2 hours for that, but we will see. i extended hosting by 24 hrs. i hope its ok for u, thanks for ur patience in advance.

[earcaraxe]

for some reason the game hosted, about 6 hours after i postponed hosting by 24 hrs (???). its ok, but im curious about that.

[Valerius]

I've sometimes had the server ignore postponement requests (if time permits I like to check to make sure they went through) but IIRC when that happens the ignored requests don't appear in the admin log. But your postponement request does appear there at 13:46 - yet the game hosted an hour later. Very strange. Maybe a delay in communication between the server and the web interface?

If you want we can delay the beginning of the war by a turn.

[earcaraxe]

that was my way of thinking too.

i would appreciate the one month exra, thank u!

[earcaraxe]

postponed by 24 hrs.

[Valerius]

Please postpone hosting by 24 hours.

[earcaraxe]

done. what about switching to 72 hrs interval?

[Valerius]

I like the idea.

[Valerius]

Please postpone hosting by another 24 hours.

[earcaraxe]

what ritual is it? "the entire earth trembled in the most powerful earthquake ever seen. After the earthquake meteors fell from the skies..." then people and soldiers died.

[Ossa]

wish "armaggeddon"

[Valerius]

Hopefully I killed off some good stuff. :p

[earcaraxe]

oh! thats why it didnt specified a province. thanks!

[Ossa]

I feel like this Agarthian kin-breaker. I concede this game, I have no chance against you;)

[earcaraxe]

really?

(i dont get that agarthan kin-breaker reference, i never played them:) )

[Valerius]

We're done? Nice diplo work, earcaraxe. Once Ermor decided to back out of attacking you and then actually ended up attacking me this was inevitable. I have to admit I can't see any logic to the third ranking nation helping the first take out the second, especially given the first was the only blood nation in the game and leading in gem income as well, but maybe Ossa only saw himself in a kingmaker position and not having a chance to win. You get out of diplo what you put into it and since my contact was basically limited to signing a NAP and asking dozens of turns later if he wanted to join in attacking you, well, I can't complain about how things turned out. :p

[earcaraxe]

thanks!

i wonder about ur strategic ideas. shinuyama obviously went for breeding out a world-record number of zmeys, and tought me a lot about hunting them.

Ossa, did u plan to shoot for tarts from the beginning? What was ur experience with the rainbow minor bless u used?

Valerius, how did ur light bless worked?

my strategy was one i wanted to try out for a long time with abysia: taking an awake sage research zmeys in about 16 turns, then send them out so early when very few counters could be against them. it worked well in our war versus pythium and first versus mictlan, but then the mictlan ai killed all of them... :S (mostly mictlipoctli with skeleton spamming)

[Ossa]

Valerius, I immideately attacked you both. I just happended to have more troops on your border than on his.

And no, I had no plan what to do with Ermor beforehand - I just happened to shoot for tarts as I often just plan my pretender to forge the chalice.

[Valerius]

Valerius, I immideately attacked you both. I just happended to have more troops on your border than on his.

IMO your best option was to use your leverage with me (I needed your help) to extract terms that would be favorable to you after Aby was defeated. Alternatively, you could have worked with Aby to kill me and then faced him (but I think your chances would have been very poor if you went that route). Crippling me and then attacking Aby to start a free-for-all was pointless, did nothing to help your chances of winning, and pretty much guaranteed the leading nation would win - which is exactly what happened.

On the plus side, it did get me out of some painful micromanagement. ;)

[Valerius]

Valerius, how did ur light bless worked?

This game reinforced my opinion that a light bless and scales is a stronger approach with Eriu than a full E9 bless. The way I see it a stronger bless lets you save on gems, stronger scales give you more mages. Since I been focusing more on Evo. magic recently I wanted to give a scales approach a try and found it was very effective. Until things went downhill at the end of the game I never reached the point where upkeep was so high I could barely recruit mages. But even though I think a scales approach is stronger I find an E9 bless to be more fun because it helps with thugging, which is my favorite part of the game.

[earcaraxe]

thanks for the game everyone!