NEWBIE GAME - EA - Stumble onwards to Victory! [STARTED 12/12 REMAIN]

[Angry_Hominid]

Hey

Haven't seen a newbie game (intermediates and advanced players welcome but encouraged to take it easy) on here for a while so I thought I would host one!

Map: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1248122009
Players: 12
Age: EA
Trades: Binding
Alliances: Not Binding
Turns: Initially 24 hours
Type: PBEM
Mods: CBM 1.92
All other settings: Default

I'll use llama server to host... hit me up if you are interested please.. im dying to get into this game MP! All settings are negotiable and im interested in some lite RP but not neccessary we can just kill each other if thats what people are into ;).

So far the race breakdown is as follows:

Austen: Helheim
Reverend Zombie: Lanka
Knai: Sauromatia
Bobskizzle: Ermor
KeithZ: Hinnom
HoleyDooley: Abysia
Mattyburn7: Caelum
Russian_Comrade: Tien Chi
Lunaje: Formoria
Angry_Hominid: C’tis
PeaceKeeper: Arco
Procyon: Ulm

Lets go and get uploading!

[Austen]

Helheim!

[Reverend Zombie]

Lanka, please.

I'm strictly speaking not a noob, but it's been a good 5 or so years since I've played regularly, and I was never very good to begin with. Also, the current version of CBM is alien to me, so I feel like noob where that's concerned.

[Knai]

Sauromatia or Arcocephale for me.

[bobskizzle]

Ermor here.

(I don't expect to do terribly well so I'll do this game concurrently with the Team game)

[KeithZ]

Hinnom, thanks

[Procyon Lotor]

Ulm Please!

[HoleyDooley]

Abysia please.

[mattyburn7]

Caelum Please

[Russian_Comrade]

Tien Chi here.

[Lunaje]

If there is still room, I'll take Fomoria

[mattyburn7]

The Eagle Kings kindly asks the Abysians to keep their flames low to the ground so you don't singe our wings! Especially those Fire-breathers Holey...keep em tame!!

We also say hello to The Russian_Comrade and other friends out there. Cheers Mates!

[Russian_Comrade]

Yeah. Hello, birdies. Do you know that in some strange world the eagle is the symbol of rotten capitalism and consumerism? But we fear not the strange imagery - for the world is full of future friends. They may even resist our friendship but friendship conquers all at the end. The way of true friendship may be hard - it will be a difficult road with a lot of necessary sacrifices to do. But no cost is too great to see All Under Heaven united at last.

My communist nation will bring law and order in this world. We are but are modest followers of Great Leader Chairman. We wish nothing but peace and prosperity for the entire world.

All will become one with the Great Tien Chi!

[Angry_Hominid]

I like the look of this map guys: http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attac...1&d=1248122009..

20 provinces each roughly, only a tiny amount of sea provinces.... what do you think?

[mattyburn7]

I like that idea. Some room for growth, etc.

[Angry_Hominid]

Ok with a consensus of 2 I proclaim that map to be the one :). I have set up the game on llama server titled Stumble_to_Victory.

I can still alter all settings so if you have any suggestions let me know...

Lets get pretenders uploaded!

[Lunaje]

What's the map's name? The link doesn't work for me.

- Not a problem anymore. Got it from the created game at llamaserver

[Peacekeeper]

ill sign up as vanheim, this will be my 6-7th game of dominions 3.

[Reverend Zombie]

So, when we say "default" these days, does that mean independent strength of 5?

[Peacekeeper]

sorry, id like to reconsider and pick up EA arco instead.

[HoleyDooley]

Hi Matty and Comrade, nice to see some familiar faces.

Peacekeeper, good choice mate, Arco rocks...cough cough.

In my capable hands I am getting soundly trounced in a current MP game and two others I am in, Arco is running dead last.

Good luck bro, you might need it.

[Angry_Hominid]

No worries man with the change... arco it is :)

[Angry_Hominid]

Independent strength is 5 yes, as with everything im happy to change any settings as I havent done this before...

[HoleyDooley]

Ah I see Keith is back as well having another bash at Hinnom.

Better luck this time mate. I am steering clear of them, they certainly take an advanced knowledge of the game to do well with.

Great commanders, almost SC in their build, but they piss the population off no end!

[Peacekeeper]

after looking at the map im having doubts with it. While at first look it should be 20 provinces per person, it has 13 set starting positions on land, so really it will be less for most and a lot more for a lucky few.

[Calahan]

There is another version of this map that I did with fixed starts for 12+1 nations (so that's 12 Land starts and 1 Water start). So if you are going for 12 nations, then this second version will be much better than the 13+1 version which you are currently using.

But of course you will have problems if anyone picks a water nation, as if only 11 land nations start then some nations are going to have a lot of room to expand into where the missing nation would have been (and will get a big advantage compared to nations in other areas. As pointed out above by Peacekeeper)

The link for the 12+1 version is here
http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=775421

and on the llamaserver it's just below the map currently selected for this game (it's called "Riverlands for 12+1 (Andalusian Sun - The Restart")

[Angry_Hominid]

Ok change made to the 12+1 version of the map.... nobodies gone water so no issue there :).

[Knai]

Would it be possible to resubmit the pretender? I'm thinking that my design was inefficient and could use some fairly major improvement.

[HoleyDooley]

You can resubmit the pretender design any time until the game kicks off. it will over write the previous one and you will get an email confirmation as such.

[Russian_Comrade]

Are there some trouble with llamaserver? I sent my pretender (and my turn in thee other game) but didn't receive any answer.

[Angry_Hominid]

Yeah I think there is an issue with llamaserver..... Ive tried to upload on another game no dice...

[Russian_Comrade]

Well, going to sleep. Will try to upload at morning.

[bobskizzle]

It's working FYI

[Knai]

We appear to be waiting on Procyon Lotor to submit Ulm, with everyone else having submitted.

[Angry_Hominid]

Greetingsss Mortals from his most Divine Lord, Xar'Dul, God of Mountain Springs, Warrior Against the Sun, God of Insects (all non C'tis!). I am emissary Lorduk and I bring news of good tidings and salvation from Xar'Dul and the magnificent Serpent Empire of C'tis!

(Game started , Goodluck everyone! :)

[Procyon Lotor]

Crud, you started without me. I had internet trouble last night, so couldn't get my pretender up.

Good luck, and I will destroy you all next time!

[Lunaje]

Now that you say it, I notice there is a R'lyeh instead of Procyon's Ulm. But I don't see a R'yleh in the player list.
This is....weird. Did I miss something?

[mattyburn7]

And Map was chosen exclusively because there were no water nations? It looks like someone crashed the party? We may want to restart with R'lyeh and get the other player back in.

[HoleyDooley]

Admin, please delete the pretender of R'lyeh.

Procyon, when you see the game accepting pretenders again, please submit yours and post here so we know it was you who submitted the pretender.

To whomever was the jerk who submitted R'lyeh, go away!

[bobskizzle]

Also, turn off any victory points settings, as you can see other players' capitals from turn 1.

[Peacekeeper]

its not a victory condition, the points are just random on the map for some reason or at least my capital didnt have one.

[KeithZ]

So the game will be recreated and we have to resent our pretender , right? I saw most of the players had handed in the first turn...

[mattyburn7]

We'll have to redo our first turn. Not sure if we have to resubmit pretenders. I don't think we'll have to do that...Just delete the R'lyeh pretender and have the other chap send his in.

[Calahan]

There is no need to re-create the game, as if you

1 - Go to admin options menu on the llamaserver page and select the "Un-Start game (go back to "Waiting for Pretenders")" option.

2 - The game will (or should) go back to the top of the llamaserver screen under the "Games waiting for Pretenders" section. All the Pretenders that were sent in for the game should be listed there (anyone wishing to change their Pretender can also do so at this point)

3 - Go into the "Game settings and admin options" menu, select the "Delete Pretender" option, tick the circle next to R'yleh to select that Pretender, enter the admin password in the box, and click on Delete Pretender button.

4 - The missing player uploads their Pretender.

5 - Go into "Game Settings and admin options" again and select "Start Game Now".

6 - The game should start a few minutes later.

Doing it this way means players don't have to re-upload their Pretenders again (which would be the case if a new game was created)

Although I can't remember if you need to do a further step, which is...

2b - Quickly go into the "Game Settings and Admin options" menu and select "Turn off automatic start".

It's been a long while since I restarted a game, but I seem to remember that the llamaserver can sometimes re-start an un-created game because the default setting is for games to start once all Pretedners are in. So when you un-start a game, all the Pretenders are there, and so the game will start automatically again if you don't do step 2a or 3 fairly quickly (but llamabeast might have fixed this at some point, so it might work properly now, but thought I'd mention it anyway just in case)

[mattyburn7]

And apologies to Procyon Lotor - Ulm. I keep forgetting you!!

[Lunaje]

Maybe a PM from admin is in order here, he may not be checking the thread anymore.

[mattyburn7]

I'll send PM to check Thread.

[Angry_Hominid]

Alrighty, game has been reset all pretenders except for Proycon Lotor remain and I have deleted the Ry'Leh pretender...

As for the victory points, they weren't enabled in the first place so I think its just a map "feature" that doesn't actually line up with actual capitals...

I have disabled automatic start so if the game doesn't start overnight dont panic, im southern hemisphere and will start tomorrow :).

[bobskizzle]

Well it did coincide with my capital!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

[Angry_Hominid]

OK in the interests of getting this game moving, and having no response from Proycon im going to open this up again to recruit one more person.....

To the person who may be interested in playing - please choose a race other than a water race and upload your pretender so I can start the game - no requirement to wait my response!

[Peacekeeper]

his account says he checked the forums this morning, id give him another couple hours. I dont know what time zone hes in but its very possible that he checked from work or something and hasnt got a chance to enter the pretender from home yet.

[Angry_Hominid]

Thats fine and he can still upload his pretender if hes quick but he hasnt replied to my email at all so I dont feel like we should discount the possibility that he doesnt want to play.

I want to get the game started.

[Procyon Lotor]

I just sent it in. Waiting on confirmation . . .

[Procyon Lotor]

Confirmation received. I'm in. Thank you for your patience!

[mattyburn7]

Welcome Procyon!! Can you turn on your private messages for the board?
Cheers!

[bobskizzle]

Let's go woooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Angry_Hominid]

Welcome back Procyon :)

Game started goodluck everyone and have fun...

[HoleyDooley]

Welcome Procyon!! Can you turn on your private messages for the board?
Cheers!



BUMP!!!!!!!

Read above message Proycon. Very important.

[bobskizzle]

Boo, renaming is off

[Peacekeeper]

Boo, renaming is off

oh god, i see a lot of time spent looking through mystics in my future.

[Angry_Hominid]

Damn that was unintentional....... restarting now before it gets WAY to painful later...

Apologies guys I honestly thought it was set to on!

[Procyon Lotor]

Err, how do I turn on "private messaging for the board"?

[Procyon Lotor]

Nevermind, I think I got it.

I am dumb. Please enjoy stomping me into the ground.

[Knai]

C'tis, what the hell happened to your troops?

[bobskizzle]

He tried to take a province blindly and lost?

[Austen]

Indies seem unusually tough for 5s where I am.

[Peacekeeper]

seems they rewarded you with a free gem site too.

[Lunaje]

I agree, there seems to be some indies on steroids around

[Knai]

Some of them are pretty nasty where I am as well. Fortunately, Sauromatia is pretty good at dealing with nasty.

[Peacekeeper]

ive got a couple trouble provinces around me, mainly a stack of 100 barbarians which i have no idea how im going to deal with in any reasonable amount of time. i am still confident that ill be ahead of the province graph after this turn though thanks to the mercenary pick up in the first turn.

[Knai]

ive got a couple trouble provinces around me, mainly a stack of 100 barbarians which i have no idea how im going to deal with in any reasonable amount of time. i am still confident that ill be ahead of the province graph after this turn though thanks to the mercenary pick up in the first turn.

As someone with way too much Arco practice, I'll just say this:
Slingers are surprisingly effective against low protection, no shield, mediocre movement units. They are also cheap, easy to mass, and capable of providing siege fodder.

[Angry_Hominid]

He tried to take a province blindly and lost?

This....

The indies do seem tough... it was on 5 but then again I thought renaming was on too so if its higher...:confused:

[HoleyDooley]

I think its set higher.

I am getting my arse handed to me big time. Plus I am attacking the "easy" pickings. The others, the BIG ones, will certainly take some beating.

[Austen]

I just checked and it's on 5...

[HoleyDooley]

LOL. Well if we were playing on 7 in that case, it might be into the 2nd year b4 I got my 2nd province.

[Russian_Comrade]

Acro is really good on expanding... It is 11 provinces right now?

[mattyburn7]

Yea. Everyone else is about even on provinces. Arco is pulling away a bit.

[Knai]

Yea. Everyone else is about even on provinces. Arco is pulling away a bit.

Arco is doing well, and I suspect some sloppiness on the part of other nations (myself very much included. I need to remember to test new strategies more thoroughly).

[Peacekeeper]

11 provinces, but that growth will be slowing as i have neighbours who obviously want to lay claim to land now.

[mattyburn7]

Procyon: When I click on your name the dropdown gives me an option for Private Messaging (which wasn't there before so that is good), but then I still get a message that either you won't receive PM's or you aren't allowed. Not sure what's up.

Anyway. I got your message in game (Caelum). Wanted to reply back here so we don't have any unfortunate conflicts (I'll send more detailed message in game).

I am fine with spirit of the post. No need for hostilities between us.

The province on the other side of the bridge from you. I am next to it and will attack into it this turn since its on my side. If you are unsure what I'm referring to, send me a post back.

Cheers Mate!

[Peacekeeper]

byrs guide to turning on PMs:

at the top of your screen, just under the thread title, there will be a list of options in white with a black background (user CP, forum rules, chat, etc). Click on User CP. Once there, under the "settings & options" section, open up "edit options". The second section will be Messaging and Notifications, find the Private Messaging and make sure your "Enable Private Messaging" is checked. Once checked, please dont forget to scroll down to the bottom of the page and Save Changes.

[Procyon Lotor]

. . . and do NOT check the box that limits your private messages to folks on your contacts list, which is right below the "enable private messaging" box. I sort of checked boxes willy-nilly, which is why people couldn't PM me.

Problem solved.

Notice how stupid I am? You should let me live, and not prioritize me for destruction.

[Peacekeeper]

make sure the box thats "only receive PMs from mods and admins" isnt checked too.

[Knai]

Regarding game rules and borderline exploits, what's the policy on sticking slave collars on mercenary mages?

[mattyburn7]

Good question. I don't know if I've seen that listed as an exploit. Any opinions from any others?

[Peacekeeper]

if you really want to spend the slaves, go for it.

[Peacekeeper]

so this thread got quiet. Hows everyones game going?

[mattyburn7]

Pretty well so far. As suspected the attack plan against indies doesn't work against other pretender armies! Good bunch of chaps in the game. I"m enjoying it!

[Peacekeeper]

hehe, sorry bout that eagle king. =)

so far my expansion went well, only real run in with other people over it was your king. I lucked out and found a province i could recruit scouts in so its given me a good idea of what the world looks like. And so far everyone has been a pleasure to deal with, ive been enjoying my time here.

[mattyburn7]

Yea. Scouts can be scarce in EA. I lucked out also. Last province I grabbed produces scouts. That's a big bonus. The Caelum native scout is nice with the Move 3 - Flying.

Hats off to the Pegasus. They were on me faster than my King could say Blessing :sick:.

[Lunaje]

People seem to be busy teaching their all true religions to so many still not converted stubborn indies.
A task in which you two are doing well :rolleyes:

[Peacekeeper]

ya, i think weve all but stopped now though so people are probably going to be catching up.

[mattyburn7]

HD(Abysia) hasn't sent his turn in and I believe he is out for the next couple days. Can we delay 72 hours until he gets back (or gets his turn in).

Thanks!

[Russian_Comrade]

Oh. Is it the same for BSoD?

[mattyburn7]

Yes. But he got his turn in + LL extended the turn length.

I think all of Holey's other games got extensions also or he got the turn in.

[Lunaje]

It is Hooley Dooley you're talking about?
He is in another game I'm in, but as far as I know he has not asked for an extension. The deadline is in like 4 hours. I'll give notice anyway.

[mattyburn7]

Yep. Yea. If he hasn't gotten the turn in you might want to. He's away for 3 days, but was hoping to get to an internet cafe or something to get a turn in if need be.

[Angry_Hominid]

ok i'll extend the turn timer to 72 hours for now

[mattyburn7]

That should be enough..then one he posts his turn we'll be good to go again. THanks!

[Angry_Hominid]

Ouch Caelum, thanks for teaching me how to eat electric death! Nice units :)

[mattyburn7]

Thanks Angry,

To be honest. I was trying to avoid your main army. I thought the numbers would get to me...I was lucky there!

[Angry_Hominid]

Thanks Angry,

To be honest. I was trying to avoid your main army. I thought the numbers would get to me...I was lucky there!

Oh that wasnt my main army.... More like an expeditionary force... Hopefully my main will stand up a little better :)

[mattyburn7]

I should rephrase: I wanted to avoid your army. period. LOL.

Nope. Looking at the scores graph I know you have a lot more out there.

Cheers Mate!

[Russian_Comrade]

What a sad day for our world.
The evil beast known as "war" came and now is grinning in anticipation.
What a terrible grin!
Noble people of sky clashed with the wise lizards. Savage demons with their monkey slaves (Damn you, capitalist oppressors of the working class! I can only hope that some day monkeys will rebel against their masters!) attacked my noble army.
And now my people fighting not against the nation of Lanka - but against that beast. This is not just a noble goal - this is the one true goal for any human being. To be able to hold the line against the nightmare itself. To overcame it - or die fighting it.
But I know that this all will pass. The land will unite. There will be but one nation under great heaven. There will be peace - eternal peace. There will be one nation. One will. One purpose.

The Great Chairman of Tien Chi.

[Russian_Comrade]

[/RP mode off]

And here I wanted to avoid early wars.

[Knai]

[/RP mode off]

And here I wanted to avoid early wars.

In a map this small? I'm honestly surprised I haven't seen more violence than there's been in my corner of the world. There are some expansive peaceful borders right now, along with what is quickly devolving into "Everyone take chunks out of C'tis".

[Russian_Comrade]

Yeah.
Well, Lanka's got pretty strong blessed troops. So it is quite possible that I'm going to be annihilated too.

[Angry_Hominid]

Haha yeah and here I am really enjoying being the meat in the sandwich which everyone is enjoying munching on :). Someone should open a third front with me to make it an all in gang fking !

[Russian_Comrade]

I request 24 hour delay. Some stuff to do at my weekend.

[mattyburn7]

I second that!

[bobskizzle]

Yeah actually, could this last turn get rolled back, I staled but i have the turn saved in my email. And i third the delay request (wedding 1000 miles from home).

[HoleyDooley]

Roll backs are dangerous.

I went away and forgot about this game and didn't notify the admin and I staled.

Tough titties! Suck it up bro.

[bobskizzle]

N a it's just that I thought the turns were 24h; I didn't do anything cross-border so it shouldn't change anything for anybody else.

Regardless, I won't be back to a computer until Monday noonish central time so w/e.

[HoleyDooley]

On the forums, I have read rollbacks can cause corruption in the game.

I have no personal experience with this.

if the majority feel the risk is worth it, so be it.

[Procyon Lotor]

I say okay to the delay, but "nay" to the rollback.

And I sympathize. I missed a turn last weekend thanks to a misunderstanding as to when the turn was due. Just enjoy the extra unspent $$$, and don't think about lost time.

[Russian_Comrade]

OK. I managed to send something in, but I have doubts about my capability to make last-minute save once again - I have some trouble at home.

I'm asking for 24h delay for turn 19.

[bobskizzle]

Again, what happened to the delay we were asking for? The server just hosted again.

[Angry_Hominid]

Ok, turn 19 delayed by 24 hours...

Sorry missed I missed the last one, I dont live on these boards :)

[Knai]

It happens. That just means a few more stales (and I am included in this).

[Peacekeeper]

with the first 20 turns almost over, why dont we start moving to a slower hosting with all these stales. maybe just an extra day, 48 hours?

[mattyburn7]

Moving to 48 hours would be good.

[Angry_Hominid]

48 hours .. done!

[Angry_Hominid]

Hey can I ask if people want to change game settings or request time extensions rollbacks ect that you PM me? I log into this forum every day but I am involved in a number of games (as I know alot of you are also) and I simply dont have the time and often just forget to check individual threads for each game.

A PM will ensure quick and timely action should it be required. Thanks for your co-operation..

[Russian_Comrade]

Diplomatic proclamation from Tien Chi.

The Great Chairman of Tien Chi hereby declares that in the really unlikely event of his demise and destruction of People's Army from the devil-beasts of Lanka his comrades and neighbors from nations of Hinnom, Abysia and Helheim may intervene and save the people of the Tien Chi from capitalistic demonic monkeys by occupying undefended provinces. Also all of Tien Chi's treasury will be divided by the saviors of its people. This outcome may be truly unthinkable but The Great Chairman is doing everything possible to protect his beloved nation and must prepare to the most unimaginable things.

[/RP mode]
So here it is - if I'm going to be beaten by Lanka (which would be really easy to notice thanks to the graphs, 80-90% drop in army size), I'll ask you guys to invade my territory and I'll divide my money and gems between my neighbors. Of course, only between the neighbors who are having NAP with me. I'm doing this because of two reasons:
1. One nation sent me an NAP dissolution because this nation fears that the Lanka is going to become too powerful after capturing all of my territory - and this is my solution to that problem.
2. Because Lanka will gain lesser by defeating me and I'm feeling somewhat spiteful here.

Also, I'm interested in any alliance propositions against Lanka. Seriously, guys, anyone else here want to hunt some demons?

[mattyburn7]

Unfortunately it appears as if I'm far far away from you in this game. I'll have to stay uninvolved in the demonic monkey wars.

[Angry_Hominid]

Ok just letting everyone know that we may have an upcoming "pause" if no sub can be found for Lanka... its from the 26-01 May...

[Reverend Zombie]

I believe I have found a sub...

[bobskizzle]

Holy crap Lanka, what happened to your army? (Monkey army?)

[Reverend Zombie]

I guess I shouldn't have used the paper monkeys.

[Russian_Comrade]

A terrible and useless battle happened. All battle are terrible and useless (expect those which are fought for peace, and I had such a battle last turn - it was terrible but necessary) but this one in particular. Attacking a peace-loving nation, trying to rush over it's army, all in trying to enslave it - such a disgusting thing to do! All of bad karma accumulated in doing such things will make you a fly in the next life or even something worse!

[Russian_Comrade]

What happened to Ermor?

[bobskizzle]

Last weekend I was at my fiance's sister's wedding (1000mi away); I thought I posted but the turns happened anyway.

[Reverend Zombie]

My sub hasn't done the current turn for Lanka, and I have not received the current turn either. I've requested Angry_Hominid via PM to please pause the upcoming turn host, switch the e-mail address for Lanka back to me, and re-send the turn file to me so I can do the current turn.

[Angry_Hominid]

Ive done that - let me know if you have any more problems...

On another note - The Lizards mock the 3 race triumvirate that seems intent on our destruction ... and we are not surprised to see the hated Abyssians join in the fray against our noble race as we suspect them as responsible for the total invasion in the first place.

Its a good day to die :)

[HoleyDooley]

Ive done that - let me know if you have any more problems...

On another note - The Lizards mock the 3 race triumvirate that seems intent on our destruction ... and we are not surprised to see the hated Abyssians join in the fray against our noble race as we suspect them as responsible for the total invasion in the first place.

Its a good day to die :)

You reap what you sow.

[Knai]

Ive done that - let me know if you have any more problems...

On another note - The Lizards mock the 3 race triumvirate that seems intent on our destruction ... and we are not surprised to see the hated Abyssians join in the fray against our noble race as we suspect them as responsible for the total invasion in the first place.

Its a good day to die :)

You reap what you sow.

And here I was worried that army was coming my way.
Incidentally, Abyssia didn't pick this fight, and aren't the ones initially responsible.

[Russian_Comrade]

OK.
I now understand what soldiers did on the Maginot line - they went to the library to research spells.


Also, no Belgium in sight for now.

[Knai]

So, things have suddenly been hectic on my end. I'll be needing a sub for quite some time, so if anyone is interested in Sauromatia, now is the time. Note that I was trying something...experimental with pretender design, so it's a little bit low on the power angle. On the other hand, it's Sauromatia.

[mattyburn7]

Sorry to hear that. Hope all is well.

[Jolly Roger]

Gentlemen,

just checked this thread and it looks like you need a replacement player. I would like to take over Sauromatia.

As your link to the map is broken, please send the map in case you accept me as replacement.

Regards, Klaus:D

[Lunaje]

This turn wasn't delayed besides Sauromatia giving notice of his need for a sub. So this nation (and Ulm too) staled.
Pointing this because I'm in a pretty awkward position. My planned attack on Sauro doesn't feel fair conducted on a unresponsive enemy and this is many turns of planning going limbo.
We should stop until this situation is solved.

[HoleyDooley]

Agreed........yawn.

We have a volunteer for sub on the previous thread page.

[mattyburn7]

Yep. Agreed also.

[KeithZ]

Uh... Ulm also staled, when the war just getting started...

[Angry_Hominid]

Ok, ive postponed hosting for 24 hours and sent an email to jolly roger for his email address so he can sub in for Knai.

Once again, its alot easier to keep track of this game if people would just send me a PM if they need a sub or whatever. Its fine to post in this thread however the response will not be as quick.

[Jolly Roger]

Sir !

PM including email address sent.

Cheers, Klaus

[mattyburn7]

Thanks for joining Mate!

[Angry_Hominid]

Ok should be good to go :)

Ive resent you the turn JR can you let me know if you get it? Im online for a bit...

Thanks again for subbing mate we appreciate it.

[Jolly Roger]

Thanks mate,

received it. Send a PM.

Thanks, Klaus

[Jolly Roger]

Gentlemen,

seems like my Sauromatians are at war with C´tis and Formoria :hurt:We use the NAP 3 rule ?

Please let me know if there are any other aggrements Sauromatia has to take into consideration before starting the turn ?:cool:

I´m aware of all the information sent to me by PM already.

Thanks, Klaus

[Peacekeeper]

as far as i know, your fighting a winning war along with caelum vs ctis and formoria was about to begin aggressions with you this turn.

[Lunaje]

Ulm has staled six turns in a row. I don't know, since Keithz notified they staled at the beginning of their war, if Ulm played any turn of that conflict at all, but at the current state of things this seems a little unfair.

[mattyburn7]

Unfortunately its almost too late now. Don't know if they have much left to do anything with going by score graphs.

[Peacekeeper]

the players will just have to bring balance back to the game.

[Angry_Hominid]

Im tired of moving my army one province at a time and truthfully I have been out of the game now for at least 10 turns. Can someone volunteer to take mod duties pls?

I will be turning AI in 2 turns.

[mattyburn7]

I'll be happy to take over if you'd like.

[mattyburn7]

Group,

I'm taking over admin duties on this one. If anyone needs delays etc. PM me or post here.

Cheers!

[Russian_Comrade]

Thanks.

And I'd like to have 24h turn prolongation...

[mattyburn7]

Game delayed 24 hours.
Cheers!

[mattyburn7]

I delayed hosting 24 hours for a change of email.

[Russian_Comrade]

Comrades, we've got another problem with stalling:

Acro and Ermor stalled last turn. I'm really concerned about the Acro because I'm not observing the 2h file from it for this turn yet.

[mattyburn7]

Thanks for heads-up. I'll delay 24 hours. (and you are right for concern. THis is on top of an already 24 hour delay).

[Russian_Comrade]

To make things clear, Acro is currently engaged in the war with Hinnom, which already destroyed playerless Ulm.

[mattyburn7]

I agree about Arco. He's too large to let go belly-up. We won't start until we hear from him or get a sub in place.

[HoleyDooley]

He was on the forums 2 days ago, so I don't know what the issue is with him.

[mattyburn7]

I PM'ed him. May must be Stale month! At least we are in June now!

[mattyburn7]

I have not heard back from Arco. If I have not heard back by tomorrow I was going to start looking for a sub. Monday to Thursday will be extremely busy for me. I may ask for help in finding a sub/administering the game through that period. If anyone wants to post to start looking for a sub, please feel free. We won't restart until we have a sub for Arco.

[bobskizzle]

I staled intentionally (was busy that night and had already stopped recruiting mages)

[mattyburn7]

Good news. Kungfoo is going to sub for Arco.

[Russian_Comrade]

An interesting fact: the place where Hinnom lost lots of its troops is the same where Lanka lost lost of its troops.

Once again - we held the line. Even with some suicidal sacrifices.

Surely, attacking Great Communist Republic of Tien Chi - which, by the way only did its international duty to protect poor people of Ulm from being eaten alive - is somewhat more entertaining than attacking a leaderless nation.

Glory to the Great Immortal Chairman! Glory to the Red October!

[HoleyDooley]

lol...good one Comrade.

[Russian_Comrade]

An interesting turn indeed.
So, Acro destroyed more than half of Lanka's forces - using lots of mages, but was massively invaded by Helheim.
Also, Ermor stopped researching for some reason - probably he hit the level 9 in some school.

[Kungfoo]

The battle for Arcoscephale was amazing to watch. :D

It was rather rude of Helheim to spring a dozen stealthy ponymen on my farmlands at the same time that Lanka was assaulting my capital; one might almost think they were acting in concert.

[Reverend Zombie]

The battle for Arcoscephale was amazing to watch. :D

It was rather rude of Helheim to spring a dozen stealthy ponymen on my farmlands at the same time that Lanka was assaulting my capital; one might almost think they were acting in concert.

You're too generous by far. As your troops were patrolling, we never even made it within sight of the city gates. :hurt:

[Austen]

It was rather rude of Helheim to spring a dozen stealthy ponymen on my farmlands at the same time that Lanka was assaulting my capital; one might almost think they were acting in concert.

It may have been rude, but it certainly was not a concerted plan.

[Lunaje]

Any notice from Ermor? Has many stales in a row, maybe the nation could use a sub.
And we should set Ulm AI, there is no much left of it.

[Austen]

A sub for Ermor would be good.

[mattyburn7]

I'll post. We can pause game until we find a sub.
I'll also see if I can get someone to turn Ulm AI.

[Kungfoo]

So, I'm an idiot and didn't get my last turn in on time, but I'm still here and don't expect to be staling again. :D

[Russian_Comrade]

Also, I'd like to have 24h extension.

[mattyburn7]

k. 24 hours added on.
Also heads-up to the group. I am going on vacation from 6/22 to 7/1. I'm going to try to get turns in on time, but I may stale and/or delay turns.

Is anyone interested in co-hosting to help me out during this time. I won't really have time to check the boards?

Thanks!

[Austen]

I can help with the hosting if needed.

[mattyburn7]

Thanks Austen. I'll send PM you the info!

[mattyburn7]

Everyone: We have a sub for Ermor. Jimbojones1971 is going to take over. I'll going to get him the turn shortly.

[mattyburn7]

I delayed hosting 24 hours. Just waiting to get Jimbo's email so I can email him his turn.

[jimbojones1971]

Sorry for the delay guys, seems I never sent my email address to Matty - just thought I had. Done now! :-)

[mattyburn7]

No worries! I'll get you the turn file out in just a bit. I'll delay a bit more. Take as much time as you need.

[Austen]

Anyone else not have their new turn? Seems like it should have been sent out a few hours ago.. have requested resends and not gotten them either..

[mattyburn7]

It took awhile. I asked for a couple of resends.

[Lunaje]

I haven't been lucky with the resends (didn't get mine either), but I'll give llamaserver some time to breath and wait a little more.

[jimbojones1971]

After much prodding, it finally resent mine just now.

[Russian_Comrade]

What the hell? I'm getting spy reports on my own armies and provinces. For a second I thought that my troops turned against me.

Dire times indeed.

[Lunaje]

Fomoria needs nature gems. Our weeping stones can provide water, air, some astral in exchange. Also some forged items on that same areas. If you're interested, let me know,

[jimbojones1971]

What the hell? I'm getting spy reports on my own armies and provinces. For a second I thought that my troops turned against me.

Dire times indeed.

Is this during a seige? If so, the text is wrong - your spy is actually reporting on the guys in the fort.

[Russian_Comrade]

Nope. It shown me all of mine armies - even PD - in the way of spy reports. Bug disappeared, but it was funny.

[jimbojones1971]

Nope. It shown me all of mine armies - even PD - in the way of spy reports. Bug disappeared, but it was funny.

OK, that is excellent :-)

I guess with a user name like Russian_Comrade, maybe the NKVD figured you be interested to know what your minions were up to?

[Lunaje]

Can I get a 12 H extension? This turns take me longer than my other games and I probably won't get home early tomorrow.

[mattyburn7]

Yep. I added 12 hours.

[Lunaje]

Much appreciated !

[mattyburn7]

Everyone: I postponed 24 hours. Traveling for work tomorrow. Cheers!

[mattyburn7]

Sorry. Had to add 1 more 12 hour delay. Travel woes. I will get it in for sure tomorrow night. Thanks for patience!

[jimbojones1971]

No worries, I quite understand :-)

[Russian_Comrade]

To everyone - I just sent a duel proposition to Hinnom. Both of us lost this war but I'd really like to clash my army with his in the open field one last time.

I'd like to see Hinnom's army at 205 untouched just because of this.

[jimbojones1971]

To everyone - I just sent a duel proposition to Hinnom. Both of us lost this war but I'd really like to clash my army with his in the open field one last time.

I'd like to see Hinnom's army at 205 untouched just because of this.

Be sure to give us all a birds eye view of how it goes down :-)

[Austen]

To everyone - I just sent a duel proposition to Hinnom. Both of us lost this war but I'd really like to clash my army with his in the open field one last time.

I'd like to see Hinnom's army at 205 untouched just because of this.

This sounds cool.. is the fight going to happen in 205? I want to watch too :)

[Lunaje]

Anyone for a more relaxed schedule? It's turn 58 by now.

[mattyburn7]

Sure. Want to switch to 60 or 72 hours?

[Lunaje]

I'm fine with either, the more the better, but if anyone else prefers 60, I have no problem.

[mattyburn7]

k. I'll add 24 hours to current. Then switch to 72.

[Russian_Comrade]

Guys, I'm going to be in Kazakhstan on the work trip next week and won't be able to make my turn until Thursday.

Thanks for understanding.

[mattyburn7]

Not sure if you'll be able to get this turn in or not, but I'll postpone current until Friday. Cheers!! and hope you have fun also on the trip.

[mattyburn7]

I delayed 24 hours.

[Lunaje]

Helheim scores have been going from too high to...overwhelming. 154 provinces, 325 gem income, that's like everybody else combined. The fight is fun, but seems a little pointless. Any thoughts?

[Reverend Zombie]

Lanka wants at least one battle with Helheim before calling it quits. :D

[mattyburn7]

I'm ready to call it a game if everyone else is.

[Austen]

This seems to be one of the difficulties of having a game without clear victory conditions. My understanding is Lanka and I are supposed to script attacks on the next turn.

I am ok wih going a couple more turns if Rev. wants, but maybe we say if in 3-4 turns things still look much like this we call the game? My turns take a long damn time.

Also, just to be clear, I'm also ok with calling it now, because. you know.. my turns take a long damn time ;)

[Reverend Zombie]

Let's don't prolong this on my account. Ermor?

[jimbojones1971]

Yeah, fair cop.

I'm pretty sure I can preserve some form of territorial integrity and remain viable for maybe five more turns, but Helheim is playing well so I won't do better than 1:1 on average and he will grind me down with his much superior income (gold and gems) and then crush me under his boot heel like a tiny, insignificant bug :D

So yeah, I am good to call it - well played Austen!

Talking of victory conditions, I really do like "more than half the capitals, for three complete turns (e.g. not counting the turn that you take a capital)". Seems to work well to produce an outcome.

[Austen]

So are we done here then? I don't want to spend the time for the turn if we're done :)

[Lunaje]

Seems there are some votes, I'm fine with conceding victory. I still have my full armies left, but I'm almost drained on many gem types, and can't replenish them at Helheim rate. And don't want to see my hall of famers Fomorian Kings dying painfully :P
Well played then, Austen. Talk about reaching critical mass!
Will you do a brief of the game on your perspective? I like reading those.

[Austen]

OK.. so it sounds like we're done.. I can delay the turn a day or two just in case someone objects. maybe send out a message through llamaserver.

If we are, in fact done, I'll do some sort of AAR. I think I have all the turns.. it might be interesting enough.

[jimbojones1971]

Seems we are done - well done Austen!

It would be good to get some sort of AAR, either in full or just a page or so of thoughts, challenges, lessons learnt etc. I too like reading that sort of thing :-)

[Austen]

OK.. game ended.. work is sort of slow, so I will see what I can come up with.. may be uneven, but we'll see..