Newbie/Intermediate FF game: A Totally Civil Union [send pretenders]

[Legendary League]

Name: A Totally Civil Union (ATCU)
Host: llamaserver.net
Age: EA
Map: Shadowshore (http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=491)
Turns: 36h, extensions upon request
Number of Players: 8-12
Mod: Forbidden Friendship 2.1 (a combination of Awesome Gods, Awesome Endgame [both of them major Dom3Goon mods], and CBM)
Non-Standard Settings: Hall of Fame entries 15; No graphs; rename on
Victory Conditions: Last one standing (or whoever is willing to go on with the late game grind)
Diplomacy Policy: All trades are expected to be completed. It's just good sportsmanship. Everything else? Go nuts. Just keep in mind that breaking treaties may or may not earn you a reputation, both in game and out. You can also choose whether or not to keep treaties secret or announce them publically in the thread (or via message system). Doesn't do anything, of course, except makes betrayals known (and thus attaches a cost to breaking treaties). Coalitions against one nation are also allowed.

Also, the more thematic and IC you are for in-game and diplomatic messagings, the more awesome points you win (redeemable for absolutely nothing).

NATIONS (11/11)
Me: ummmmm, Mictlan (lol)
Jolly Roger: Abysia
Ragnarok-X: Maverni
dojango: Kailasa
HoleyDooley: Agartha
jimbojones1971: Niefelheim
KeithZ: Lanka
Shardphoenix: Pangaea
TimeLegend: Tir'Na'Nog
bbz: Fomoria
Nightfall: Oceania

For long I have been considering trying out a game with some of the mods from the dom3 goon community. The three mods incorporated are Awesome Gods (which make pretenders drastically more powerful in different ways: I suggest you experiment with them), and Awesome Endgame (which makes a number of summons, from elemental royalty to wraith lords and krakens, more powerful as well), and CBM.

I'd download and take a look at the mods themselves before taking the game up (in fact, that's what I'm going to do right now). www.proactiveapathy.com/dom3/mods/mods.html

[Jolly Roger]

Count me in for

Abysia

[Legendary League]

For those of you wanting to try out what the Awesome Endgame mod does, if you download the singular mod, there's a test nation under EA which has all the modded monsters under recruitables.

[Ragnarok-X]

Im in as MAVERNI.

[dojango]

count me in as Endgame Diversity Mod.



what? OK, I'll try Kailasa.

[HoleyDooley]

Agartha thx.

[bbz]

found a bug that you might want to mod out. Fomoria ultimate spell-murder of crows that summons 16 morrigans costs no gems o.O and gives you 16 morrigans.

[jimbojones1971]

Nief please :)

[HoleyDooley]

Jimbo, please read the fine print in the rules section.

It say "No rush strategies allowed".

[KeithZ]

I'd like to join as Lanka. Thanks

[bbz]

OK let me know how many gems is that spell supposed to be and I might join in. As Fomoria.

[Legendary League]

found a bug that you might want to mod out. Fomoria ultimate spell-murder of crows that summons 16 morrigans costs no gems o.O and gives you 16 morrigans.
Looking through the GoonDom3 thread, it's 30 gems.

I'm trying to find the fixed version for it on the Goons thread, but thus far it won't let me download it. So I'll put up a quick fix for it and we'll go with that (I believe there's also a bug with the Terichik sprite, but that's an added LA Atlantis summon so its all good).

[Legendary League]

Alright, here's the quick fix for the Murder of Crows bug. I'll upload it to llamasever soon.

[Shardphoenix]

So, Order is a no-brainer once again?

[bbz]

Actually guys I think I'll pass on this one. Thx for the reply though.

[Legendary League]

So, Order is a no-brainer once again?
Order is back to +7% per tick instead of +6% gold per tick, and production is back to 2% per tick. However, a tick of production is now 25% resources (which means +/- 75% resources, making sloth/production potentially very ruinous/powerful). Growth is similar to the changes made in CBM, but minus the supply bonus/malus. Luck and Magic are unchanged in both.

I'd say that order is powerful for those who need gold, but it's very risky to take sloth or death to pay for it. A luck/turmoil strategy is still (as ever) viable. Something like Abysia would likely benefit drastically by taking prod and order.

[Shardphoenix]

I think, I`ll join as Pan.
I have some devious plans for them, he-he...

[Legendary League]

I think, I`ll join as Pan.
I have some devious plans for them, he-he...
Hmm, let me guess. You're going to try and leverage the freespawn Vinemen from the Master Druid, along with GoRing the Vine Kings for cheap, no-upkeep N3 mages? ;)

I tried that with some of the other freespawn pretenders like the Mother of Tuatha (they have the same base stats as Tuatha, just no magic/priest skill: kind of a bummer, since I was thinking Man might end up using them for thugs/SCs: still, the Tuatha troops are great blessed cavalry, and even without magic have great stats to kit out).

[Shardphoenix]

I think, I`ll join as Pan.
I have some devious plans for them, he-he...
Hmm, let me guess. You're going to try and leverage the freespawn Vinemen from the Master Druid, along with GoRing the Vine Kings for cheap, no-upkeep N3 mages? ;)No. E/W/N blessed centaurs on a big fat earthmother chassis.
Or maybe not. Maybe I have another devious plan. :)

[Legendary League]

Heh. Well, I'm still unsure as to what I'm going to do (Tien Chi is overwhelming me with options), and I really wish I could make use of the Divine Throne chassis (dat bless), but then again Ermor has nothing good to bless in the first place. Then there's Ulm and the Great White Bull, but the lack of magic diversity doesn't sync well with my play-style (then again, cheap E/N bless is nice). I also don't want to do another 'heim game for awhile.

Bah.

[Shardphoenix]

and I really wish I could make use of the Divine Throne chassis Equites of the Sacred Shroud are good with rainbow bless.

[TimeLegend]

Super Newb here (1st game.). I'd like to see if I can play as Tir na n'Og faction if no one minds

[bbz]

I guess Tir na n'Og can not go without an enemy. And since my other game is over. Count me in again as Fomoria;)

[bbz]

just a quick question what happened to the gem generatrs at the awesome endgame? are they in or not

[bbz]

Oh and another quick question. Wouldnt shadowshore be too packed for 12 people? especially if we dont get an underwater nation. The other game that is played on it which is the Multiplayer AAR game, has 8. I think up to 9-10 should be fine(9 with 1 underwater would be perfect). But 12 is a bit too much for a small map. (just my opinion)

P.s no need to answer the previous one. Gem-generators are made non-unique in awesome items mod not in the forbidden friendship.

[Legendary League]

just a quick question what happened to the gem generatrs at the awesome endgame? are they in or not
Forbidden Friendship is a combination of AE, AG, and CBM. It pretty much maintains many of the balance changes in CBM, excepting some changes to some really big summons (zmey nerf, yays! Krakens have crazy magic paths).

If you guys would like, we can start with 10.

[bbz]

10 people = 13.3 provinces per player which is pretty standard so yea I'd be happy to start.

[Nightfall]

I'll sign up as Oceania if you still want a water nation.

[Legendary League]

Alright then, I'll close the game right now.


Also, **** it. I'm going to go ahead and play Mictlan (never played it before, and I'm pretty bad at rushes), and hope it doesn't blow up in my face. Tien Chi just has too many choices : psyduck : .

Mictlan with no SDRs here we go! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk)

Game link here. (http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ATCU_A_Totally_Civil_Union)

[TimeLegend]

Sorry this is a bit embarrassing but, what is the port number to play this game? This is my first time trying to get into a game could ya'll help me please.Or really just how to join in general... Thanks in advance :)

[bbz]

OK you download the mod. Unzip in the mod directory, then activate it. then go and create a pretender for your nation. Then you go to saved games directory/newlords and there is your pretender .2h file you send that via email at pretenders@llamaserver.net put as a subject of the email the exact name of the game(the way you see it in the link so: ATCU_A_Totally_Civil_Union)
Then after all the pretenders have been sent you will receive an email with the first turn attached to it. Create a new folder in the savedgames directory named by your preference, and save the first turn .trn file in it. Then you start dominions click start game and there will be a game named the way you named the folder. Click on it. Play it out, click end turn. then open the same folder that you created and there will be a .2h file in it (and the .trn file) so you just reply to the email that you received for the first turn attaching your .2h file.

Hope I didn't miss anything:)

[TimeLegend]

Dominions 3 multiplayer games are... complicated, but thank you :)

[bbz]

haha nah once you get used to it its easy:)

[TimeLegend]

If ya say so. Well really the hardest thing so far was to find the files because my computer arranges things very oddly.

[jimbojones1971]

Silly question, but when i do pretender creation I can't see anything different about any of the pretenders available. I've checked the mods activated when I create the pretender, and I am pretty sure I've got FF (only) active.

Two questions:
1) should I be able to notice anything different?
2) can someone give me an example or two of funky pretender things that show up for particular nations, so I can confirm to my own satisfaction that I am doing this right?

(The pretender costs look different - pretty sure Dragons are cheaper for example - so maybe everything is indeed as it should be. But I'd just like to make sure, for peace of mind!)

[HoleyDooley]

Jimbo,

Check out the Risen Oracle, available only to Agartha.

Vanilla CBM he has 1E and 1D and 60 points for a new path.

In FF, he has 3E and 3D and 20 points per new path.

Cheers,

HD

[Ragnarok-X]

Something is wrong with the great mother. She has WNE3 in the selection screen, yet when you level her magic, she has WNE1. Ingame, she gets the correct paths (i.e. WNE3 + whatever you boosted) but blesses dont apply.

[bbz]

Yea apparently thats how they made some things. Some pretenders were made powerfull for blesses others were made powerful only for magic paths. And obv some for both:)

[Ragnarok-X]

So what you are saying is that this behavior is actually intended ? Im not sure, but if you say so, it is. In that case, i will send in a pretender tomorrow.

[bbz]

don't take my word for granted, i just seemed to remember other pretenders that did the same thing

[dojango]

yeah, that's intended behavior. some pretenders get a boost to their blessings (the bulls, the divine throne) while some pretenders get boosts to their paths (forge lord) and some get penalties to their blessings (earth mother, virtue).

[Nightfall]

So what you are saying is that this behavior is actually intended ?

It actually says so in the Great Mother's description if you bother to read it...

[jimbojones1971]

So what you are saying is that this behavior is actually intended ? Im not sure, but if you say so, it is. In that case, i will send in a pretender tomorrow.

I saw a discussion with the mod creator - this is most definitely the intended behaviour.

Will get my pretender in tonight, guys - thanks for giving me the example with Agartha HD.

[Shardphoenix]

So what you are saying is that this behavior is actually intended?Yes, it was definitely intended. Read Earth Mother`s description in FF. :)

[TimeLegend]

I admit I'm pretty new here, but does it usually take this long to get all the pretenders in?

[bbz]

Usually not. I'm not sure what's thaking the reset of the crew so long.

[jimbojones1971]

Sorry, I am a muppet. Played with pretender, but never sent it in. Done now!

[Shardphoenix]

Sorry. Needed to do some testing and had not enough free time during the week.

[TimeLegend]

Sorry, I am a muppet. Played with pretender, but never sent it in. Done now!

Cool. And now we wait for the...host. Odd maybe he's busy but you gotta enjoy the Irony.

[bbz]

Sorry, I am a muppet. Played with pretender, but never sent it in. Done now!

Cool. And now we wait for the...host. Odd maybe he's busy but you gotta enjoy the Irony.

haha yea I was thinking the same thing:D

[bbz]

Yey game is on, have fun everyone!

[jimbojones1971]

The computer I had Dom3 on has exploded. I do have a backup (Dom3 folder), but need to redownload FF etc - will get all that done tomorrow ASAP. Very sorry for the delay guys!

[HoleyDooley]

What!!!!! You are using the "dog chewed up my PC excuse"!!!!!!!!!

Jimbo, do you think we are idiots here? We all know you are on a promise tonight and your mind is totally on your joy stick right now!

Put a leash on that dog of yours. OK!

[bbz]

What!!!!! You are using the "dog chewed up my PC excuse"!!!!!!!!!

Jimbo, do you think we are idiots here? We all know you are on a promise tonight and your mind is totally on your joy stick right now!

Put a leash on that dog of yours. OK!

I kind of believe him, my laptop started smoking about a year ago, from overuse:D

[jimbojones1971]

What!!!!! You are using the "dog chewed up my PC excuse"!!!!!!!!!

Jimbo, do you think we are idiots here? We all know you are on a promise tonight and your mind is totally on your joy stick right now!

Put a leash on that dog of yours. OK!

Man, I WISH! :-)

[HoleyDooley]

Me too mate. Been married seven years.......the 7th is a far cry from the first...lol.

[HoleyDooley]

Looking for GEMS!!!!!!

I need 10 Nature and 10 Water gems.

I can trade an equal number of earth gems for each.

Cheers,

Agartha

[TimeLegend]

Hey um I won't be able to take my turn until. Some time in Friday, could I get a turn extension please.

[Ragnarok-X]

In that case, this might be a long extension.
early friday morning i will go on a weekend vacation and return late sunday evening.

[bbz]

yea thats fine by me

[Shardphoenix]

Pangaea is willing to sell some N.

[jimbojones1971]

I am also OK with a long extension - whatever makes the game go smoother :-)

[bbz]

Guys is province 89 adjecent to province 83? I have an argument with a guy and I need to see who is right. (there is no connection between these two). And by definition from the game a caslte(in that case capital) will take all the resources from adjecent provinces).

[HoleyDooley]

What is the argument? On page 42/43 in the rule book it clearly shows a province with a castle NOT getting resources from 2 provinces it is next to, but separated by a mountain range and thus not connected.

You know there was most likely a good reason they supplied a rule book with the game....... to explain the bloody rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How did Giant’s Rest get so many resources? Because the province now has a fortress, it
can utilize its full production capacity, so instead of 67 it now has a base of 134. When you
add the resources from the four adjacent provinces, you get 134, plus 10% of all the
following: 42 (4), 48 (4), 26 (2), and 30 (3). Those are the “actual” resource totals in Trisia,
Rhetha, Ostmark, and Obalshin, respectively.

[bbz]

the argument is: is 89 adjecent to 83.

P.s I am not talking about the rules I know the rules I am proving a point.

[HoleyDooley]

Are they adjacent?.....by the strict defination of english I guess they are, as their borders "touch", but their borders are that of an impassable terrain and thus there can be NO movement directly between them nor are any resources able to be exchanged between them should one of them contain a castle.

Still failing to see the issue here.

[bbz]

OK so it is a question of definition. Do you preceive them as adjecent. Problem is Abyssia, and I had a Nap-3. Clause in the nap-3 all adjecent provinces to his capital are his. All adjecent provinces to my capital are mine. He did not mention 89 as a part of the provinces that are adjecent and thus I conquered it.(being owned by indipendents beforehand.) Now he blames me that I broke the nap clause. So I was wondering how is it preceived.( since most people know that there are quirks on the map and usually people preceive adjecent provinces, as provinces to which you have movement). So I was trying to clear that up for him, but he doesn't seem to want to listen.
Even Wiki defines Adjecent province as one at which you have movement and you can attack. (or heck type in google Dominions 3 adjecent province and see what comes up)

And regarding the meaning of adjecency I was asking in terms of a gameplay, or the way you understand it in this game. Since an agreement is in the bounds of the game, so all the parts of the agreements should be in the bounds of the game.

[HoleyDooley]

Well Jolly Roger comes highly recommended from another party whom I trust implacably.........

Its certainly his right (why, because its a free world)to claim by his definiton that the two 2 provinces adjoin each other and thus you broke a NAP by taking it.

However I think if you polled 99 other DOM 3 players there is no way using common sense you could claim that province as being next to your capital, as the reason we don't want people "adjacent" to our capital is that they can close it down in a single move.

You can't close close his capital down in a single move in the circumstances described as the intervening terrain prevents this.

Jolly, I think you had better look up the definition of "common sense" in the dictionary, other wise you are going to find yourself in a LOT of unnecessary conflicts playing Dom 3.

You are new here I believe....hey, we all make mistakes.

By the way the way, I note all NAP breakers, and bbz is certainly not getting his name into my black book over this incident.

[Jolly Roger]

Gentlemen,

assume bbz and me came to a mutual agreement on the subject of this issue meanwhile.

You are right, actually it´s a question of definitions.

Finally I´d like to point out, I´ve never intended to put bbz to public prosecution. ;):D

Regards, Klaus

[bbz]

Yep everything is sorted out.

[jimbojones1971]

My word, things are getting most interesting indeed! :-)

[mattyburn7]

I'm sorry I didn't get in this game...Lots of my friends are in this one. Of course I'm in about 5 other games with said friends! :). Cheers Guys!

[Shardphoenix]

Hey, Lanka, are you going to attack? Sitting at my border with 65432132465456 palankashas and pretending they are on vacation isn`t going to work, you know? :)

[TimeLegend]

Sigh Seems we're not on turn 12 anymore :(. I did mention I'd be back at by friday right?... sigh.

At the very least that's what the Llamaserver is telling me.

[bbz]

The host has been stalling for the last 2 turns. We need to find another admin. And another player.

[TimeLegend]

oh... :(

That's not good... Yeah we should get to that...

[bbz]

Apparently Legendary League was here yesterday. I've sent him a message.

[Jolly Roger]

Hi.

I know that´s a pain in the ***, but I´ve just received a message I have to speak on a congress in Prague, means I´ll be out of town from Thursday (14th) morning to Saturday(16th) late in the evening.
So I could continue on Sunday morning (GMT).:doh:

Sorry, hope that´s not too annoying. The good message is I´ll be available without any break until the 11th of August.:D

Regards, Klaus

[bbz]

I've asked the host for the admin password and if I get it I will postpone the turn on the 14th until you come back.

[Jolly Roger]

Thank you.

That´s much appreciated.

Regards, Klaus

[Ragnarok-X]

Hm. I asked the admin to turn off autohost since i was away from friday to sunday. Now i returned and see the turns did resolve without me sending a file.
I dont think i will continue with the game because the turn(s) i missed were of critical importance.

[bbz]

Hm. I asked the admin to turn off autohost since i was away from friday to sunday. Now i returned and see the turns did resolve without me sending a file.
I dont think i will continue with the game because the turn(s) i missed were of critical importance.

1. Turning autohost off is not going to stop the turn from resolving when it is sheduled.

2. you missed 1 turn.

3. its your choice if you want to leave, could you please post on the forums for a replacement.

4. I don't like it either that LL hasn't replied to my messages and doesnt check the game thread regularly it is a job of the admin to make sure that everything is allright and if you don't have time to do that, find a co-admin

[Ragnarok-X]

Well, i hate it how the host makes this game, saying he wants to play this mod and then disembarks.
Im continueing after my anger cooled down.

[Nightfall]

I've asked the host for the admin password and if I get it I will postpone the turn on the 14th until you come back.

It may be better to just put in a request with llama to change the admin password.

[bbz]

Ok I've asked llama to change the password, also I'd ask if someone would be interested to be coadmin in the case that I am away or stale or anything in general:)

[Ragnarok-X]

I can do that if noone else can or will.

[bbz]

yea I still havent received a word from llamabeast but whenever I get the new password will let you and LegendaryLeague know about it.(if he is still playing)

[Jolly Roger]

Please don´t forget, I need a time out, as I´m in Prague until Sunday. Can´t play the next turn before Sunday GMT 12:00.

Thanks, Klaus

[bbz]

I know... The thing is I haven't gotten a reply from Llamabeast or from LegendaryLeague... so there is not much I can do at the moment....

[Jolly Roger]

That´s life.

However, would really appreciate to postpone aggressive actions against Abysia until I´m back....;);)

Thanks, Klaus

[Ragnarok-X]

Did you wrote Llama on here or the "OTHER" board ?

[bbz]

on this one only
I will send him a message on the other one as well.(should have done that really but didn't think of it)

[Ragnarok-X]

I need a small extension, 12 hours.

?

[bbz]

... Once again. I haven't had any reply niether from llama nor from LL, so I still can't grant any extensions sorry. I will let you know once I get reply from anyone....

I did sent a message to llama on the other board but I got no reply there either.

[Ragnarok-X]

Goddamn. This might be a real problem some time down the road. Just saying.
Can be Legendary League for being a damn retard and leaving this game so early ?

..

[HoleyDooley]

HHHMMM a single commander blocking attack.....lets hope that is the last one.

[jimbojones1971]

I've formed the opinion you always need a co-admin, for situations like this.

[Ragnarok-X]

Llamaserver was down and i received no email with the latest turn. as such i again missed a turn. anyone else ?

[jimbojones1971]

Llamaserver was down and i received no email with the latest turn. as such i again missed a turn. anyone else ?
Happened to me with another game. :-(

[bbz]

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=ATCU_A_Totally_Civil_Union

If you add this link to your favourites you can check every turn and which turn you have sent and which not.

[HoleyDooley]

I think I will need a 24 hour extension on this one.,,,if we are able to that is.

[bbz]

.... I'd need one as well. Sorry still no reply from anyone

[HoleyDooley]

Managed to get my turn in, but as soon as we get a reply on this the turns will need to be extended.

Cheers,

HD

[llamabeast]

Have given bbz admin access - very sorry for the long delay guys.

Also sorry for the llamaserver quirks. It's been a bit odd - I think perhaps the hosting provider has been having issues because it seems like emails just didn't get through consistently for a few days.

[Ragnarok-X]

Heh this turn was awesome. Permakilled a Pretender and repelled a wanne-be siege.

[jimbojones1971]

Heh this turn was awesome. Permakilled a Pretender and repelled a wanne-be siege.

Interesting times indeed!

Are you able to provide more details? I have very little visibility of what is going down, and love hearing about things like this.

[Ragnarok-X]

Sure thing.

HoleyDoley thinks he is funny and was using a dormant (i guess) immortal Risen Oracle to solo around. Flame Brand, Horror Helmet and some more stuff. At some point he thought he might just leave friendly domain. Sure enough, he had Astral 2 or 3 on his guy, which is really bad idea for Magic Duel. So, i teleported 2 Druids to magic duel him and obviously, against the odds, lost. This however didnt stop Rebourne the Risen Oracle from venturing outside of his domain. Last turn, he was really courageous, travelling into dominion -7. While buffing up, some guy of mine got a Paralzyze in and a couple of Smites and Hoof-Attacks later, he was gone for good. Since Rebourne is a rainbow, even a resurrection will cost him plenty of power. Than, and my guys found a bunch of items.

http://prntscr.com/b3hj3

I could have beaten up Holey several turns ago, but unfortunally he was abusing (that is my point of view) the imbalanced (again my view) PD of Agartha, so i could never attack him, but only defend. You know, PD 20 adds Darkness and there no way you can beat it early to midgame. Long story short, i sacrified most of terrain to Abysia will doing as much damage as possible to Agartha. Finally culminating in this splendid kill (among others).

[Nightfall]

EA Agartha having darkness on PD is a well known fact, and rushing him without something to deal with it was your mistake, trying to insinuate that HD is in any way exploiting is very poor form.

[Ragnarok-X]

Your assumptions are wrong. I did not rush any one, in fact Agartha rushed me, taking a province on a mountain range, therefor opening me up to attack 3 provinces of mine and immediatly getting darkness up. He then advanced to the north and again, darknessed up. My army was superior (in my eyes) and i had mages but i could not attack due to darkness.
Please do not talk like you know a thing about ingame actions between Maverni and Agartha.


In addition, i said **i believe** darkness PD is op, and by the way, the general concensus seems to be that it indeed is.

[HoleyDooley]

Ragnorak, your an idiot, state the facts as they are not what you would like them to be.

I did not rush you....you picked a fight with me. I had no intention of fighting you early...but YOU left me no choice.

Yes Darkness is OP and will be addressed in the next cbm patch, thus picking a fight with me early was NOT the smartest idea you have ever had.

Oh, and you diplomacy just sucked.....really sucked.....thus you will be eliminated from the game shortly.

I made mistakes in this game...freely admitted....I hope to be as perfect as you in my future games.

Bye bye ragnorak.

[HoleyDooley]

On the other hand, as I have found out, attacking with Agartha is no easy task given their stats....so defensively good, offensive is sad compared to most other nations.

[bbz]

Managed to get my turn in, but as soon as we get a reply on this the turns will need to be extended.

Cheers,

HD

I agree with the extension that is needed. I changed the hosting interval to 36 hours. This should be ok for a while(until turn 40-50-60) And then we can change it to 48 hours and after 20-30 more turns if it gets to there to 72 hours.

[jimbojones1971]

Well, my god aspirant met the mighty cyclops pretender of Marverni on the battlefield, and prevailed. The one eye has been sent to Hades, to see if his priests can call him back once again.

That was an interesting gamble there - glad I concentrated my forces, you would have smashed any one of my smaller armies if you'd caught them. Such is the luck of war!

[Ragnarok-X]

Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

Its no big deal though, im only in to hurt Agartha since the last 10 turns. All except 2 provinces of mine have been captured by abysia, agartha, jotun and now ocenania is joining in with 3 SC Triton Kings.

Funny thing though, Abysia got a lesson in manner. His 120 size army was annihilated, i lost 1 mounted commander.

Yay for fun !

[Jolly Roger]

Congratulations !

Impressive victory !

I´ll take your tactic into consideration for the future...:D
Abysia could challenge you with a Sabbath Master......;)



Cheers, Klaus

[Shardphoenix]

Hey, guys.... Oceania got TWO gemgens. I mean, that`s +45 gems out of thin air and a perfect position to attack most capitals... On a nation with great SC-chassis. Are we going to do something - or just sit there and watch him running away with the game?
CBM Oceania is a decent nation, not what it was in vanilla.

[Ragnarok-X]

I was wondering when the other players would realize it. Just this turn he landed 3 fully equipped SCs on my coast and he has a MAJOR bless plus two gemgen enchants.

In case you dont realize that it means:

http://prntscr.com/bb8nm

http://prntscr.com/bb8p5

[Shardphoenix]

Impressive guys... Somewhat weak MR, though. It might backfire on Oceania if they get hit with charm/control/hellbind heart spam.

[jimbojones1971]

I for one salute our new fishy masters, and look forward to cleaning their salty boots with my tongue as I sing their praises! All hail mighty Oceania! :-)

[jimbojones1971]

.... and now ocenania is joining in with 3 SC Triton Kings.

Maybe your dudes taste like chicken or something? I can't think of why else everyone would be bouncing on you :-)

Thanks for sticking around and playing on, by the way. It makes the game a lot more fun!

[Nightfall]

Hey, guys.... Oceania got TWO gemgens. I mean, that`s +45 gems out of thin air and a perfect position to attack most capitals... On a nation with great SC-chassis. Are we going to do something - or just sit there and watch him running away with the game?
CBM Oceania is a decent nation, not what it was in vanilla.

More than a little alarmist and misleading, unless of course your definition of 'out of thin air' is somehow code for a huge investment in research and gems.

Pretty rude too, since I've been pretty nice and helpfull to you all game... I suspect the main reason though is that I beat you to Earth Blood.

Guess you'll just have to make do with Mother Oak and GoH, which I expect will be along shortly.

And the only buff I can see in CBM for EA is an extra random on the Kings, not sure that even makes up for the loss of natural clamming ability.

By the way, since I've gone to a lot of trouble to have scouts; I actually know, rather than just guessing, who's in the prime position at the moment. But strangely I don't feel the need to spew it out in public.

As for your 'suggestion', well, thanks to Ragnarok, I think that most of the other players will realise how horrid fighting my sacreds will be underwater, espescially when backed up by Kings, and that I'm still not a major threat to them on land...

[Shardphoenix]

More than a little alarmist and misleading
Two globals. Two gemgens. One of them being the second best gemgen in game (the first being Arcane Nexus, and that says something).
Pretty rude too, since I've been pretty nice and helpfull to you all game... True, but you`re really the biggest fish in our small pond currently.
suspect the main reason though is that I beat you to Earth Blood.Never was a part of my strategy - too much Agartha/Marverni in this game.
Guess you'll just have to make do with Mother Oak and GoH, which I expect will be along shortly.Maybe. Or maybe not. Pan doesn`t really need GoH, you see - all Pan forces have recuperation and very long lifespans. And no native Death access in EA to leverage tartarians.
As for your 'suggestion', well, thanks to Ragnarok, I think that most of the other players will realise how horrid fighting my sacreds will be underwater, espescially when backed up by Kings So we totally should give you time to leverage your huge multi-gem income into endless streams of Wendigos and Hidden in Snow. Yeah, sounds very smart. :)

[Ragnarok-X]

I think by now its perfectly obvious how strong Oceania is, income wise and and bless. I dont think any one other player does have 3 fully equpped SCs making landfall.

[Nightfall]

So we totally should give you time to leverage your huge multi-gem income into endless streams of Wendigos and Hidden in Snow. Yeah, sounds very smart. :)

No native death magic genius...

[jimbojones1971]

Grabs popcorn, settles in for the show ....

[Shardphoenix]

No native death magic genius...
You only need 2d on your god to craft a skull staff and summon first wendigo. And then in several turns it`s big enough to summon another wendigoes. It`s not like tarts, where you need to climb all the way to D7 (so you need either a D5 pretender, RoS/RoW or unique scepter) and then not many of them are capable of summoning each other.
But even if you don`t have D - grendelkin are fine too. Or you can get into D game with krakens. You have more than enough W gems for it.

[HoleyDooley]

Its no big deal though, im only in to hurt Agartha since the last 10 turns.


I say old boy, jolly decent of you hanging around and all.
Many a lesser chap would have just said "tally ho, I'm off" and gone to blighty...what!

[jimbojones1971]

Most amusing turn.

I managed to nail one of Marverni's (=Ragnarok X's) marauding armies, with a bunch of communioned druids in it - overall, a quite satisfying victory, except that he nailed my pretender god on turn 2 or 3 with a soul slay. Well done, buddy - revenge for me nailing your pretender a few turns back :-D

Also, there is this tongue of land about three provinces wide to the south of me. Lanka originally owned it. Then Pan invaded it, with a larger army - but once you are in the corridor, there is not way out (unless you want to start a war with another country) - so then an army of Lankans followed the Pan dudes up and trounced them. Then Pan did it back. Then Lanka again. And now a HUUUUGE army of Pan dudes is marching up the corridor. Truly, this most excellent viewing :-)

[Ragnarok-X]

Well, honestly, i would have expected a few more kills. Of course, once the druids started to target your guys with amulet of anti-protection and to make it worse decided to cast blade wind, it all went to hell. But, at least the Snowman is no more :D

[Shardphoenix]

so then an army of Lankans followed the Pan dudes up and trounced them In fact, they didn`t. I was sneaky. :)

[dojango]

Hey, guys.... Oceania got TWO gemgens. I mean, that`s +45 gems out of thin air and a perfect position to attack most capitals... On a nation with great SC-chassis. Are we going to do something - or just sit there and watch him running away with the game?
CBM Oceania is a decent nation, not what it was in vanilla.

I think you're probably right in this. We should get together an anti-Oceania coalition before he runs away with the game. PM me if you're interested and we'll co-ordinate our efforts to defeat this aquatic menace.

[jimbojones1971]

Well, honestly, i would have expected a few more kills. Of course, once the druids started to target your guys with amulet of anti-protection and to make it worse decided to cast blade wind, it all went to hell. But, at least the Snowman is no more :D

The Snowman has melted in heat of the Marverni sun :-)

Yeah, when I replayed that battle I though I got lucky - it could have ended very, very badly for me!

so then an army of Lankans followed the Pan dudes up and trounced them In fact, they didn`t. I was sneaky. :)

Ooops, my bad :-) Either way, it is a fascinating show!

[jimbojones1971]

I think you're probably right in this. We should get together an anti-Oceania coalition before he runs away with the game. PM me if you're interested and we'll co-ordinate our efforts to defeat this aquatic menace.

I plan to defeat Oceania by attacking Marverni. If that fails, I have a crack squad equipped to parachute into Oceania and grovel for mercy - crying and pitiful appeals to "think of the children!" will only be employed as a last resort, unless my guys go off script and cast soul slay or the like.

[bbz]

anyone interested in swapping large quantities of earth gems for astral gems. I offer 1 astrak gems for 1.25 earth gems. I am looking for 63earth gems and I will offer 50 astral gems for that. If anyone is interested let me know

[dojango]

Once again the sun set on the siege of Kailasa. The circumvallattion of the city was complete; armored mermen patrolled the earthen ramparts, keeping a close eye out for gorilla warriors. Inside the city, a haze of magic flickered and crackled in the night, but in the tents of Oceania's mage corps, it was quiet.

"I hate the land," muttered Shamem. "Three," he added.
Otyg slid three cards across the makeshift table. "At least we just have to sit here. Let the tritons do the fighting," he said.
"We'll see action soon enough," Shamem said. "Once the walls go down..."
"All we need to do is sit in the back and blast the damn dirty apes. It's the grunts who will do the fighting," retorted Otyg.
The light of the lantern flickered briefly as a gust of wind entered the tent. "Cyy? That you?" asked Shamem, turning towards the entrance.
"****!" shouted Otyg.
In the entrance of the tent was a golden being, smooth and radiant. When he saw the mages looking at him, he flicked open his jacket and grinned. Earth gems glittered in the radiant light.
"John Quincy Adams Ackbar!" shouted the Yakasha.

Otyg crawled away from the rubble of the tent. All around him he could hear shouting, crashing. Was the tide coming in? He felt himself drifing back to the ocean, towards home. Suddenly he opened his eyes. A grinning monkey stood above him, falchion upraised.

[TimeLegend]

Alright Now I want to know exactly what the heck happened.

[jimbojones1971]

Sounds like a reprieve for Kailasa?

Wait a minute. If Oceania is a threat to all that is good and true in the world ... and Kailasa can beat Oceania ... then that makes Kailasa an even greater threat!

We must CRUSH these Kailasans before they run away with the game! Quick, everyone rally to me in this time of need!

[Shardphoenix]

and Kailasa can beat Oceania Win a combat =/= win a war.

[dojango]

Alright Now I want to know exactly what the heck happened.

Just used a suicide bomber to kill a bunch of mages. Asymetric warfare against a superior foe, dawg.

[Shardphoenix]

Now upgrade it to a non-suicidal bomber. :)

[TimeLegend]

More or less agree. :)

[jimbojones1971]

and Kailasa can beat Oceania Win a combat =/= win a war.

True. Although it is hard to win a war without winning at least some battles !

[Shardphoenix]

WHAT THE HELL? ARE WE BACK TO 24H?????????????
Damn, I`m TOTALLY f***ed up because of this stale.

[bbz]

what? hosting interval is still 36 hours... as it has been?

[bbz]

I don't think we are back to 24h. I can't tell though since I admitted my turn early. In the game settings it says 36h. Not sure what happened here? Anyone else experiencing that? Also if the stale is so bad (say you are at war and are have half of your territories taken from you due to the stale or loose a mjaor battle because of that then I might be willing to roll back the turn (but generally its a bad idea coz there can be a lot of problems with a roll back ending up with screwing up the whole game so I'm not gonna do that unless its really really bad. You can PM me and try to explain what happened to you and so that I could try and judge if haveing the rollback is worth the risk.

I'm not sure if the co-admin has changed something or if it has been a llamaserver problem. I'll look into it. In the meanwhile I extend the current turn by 48 hours so that I can get a reply from shardphoenix and give myself some thinking/acting time.


Oh also another thing, I always declare in the main thread if I were to change the hosting interval, and also I'd never change it to less time that its supposed to be(due to the plans that people have made).

[jimbojones1971]

It could be a llamaserver problem. Generally, the server is pretty good, but it does have the occasional hiccup.

[Soyweiser]

llamaserver keeps a log of any admin actions. So if you are back to 24h it should show up in there.

[bbz]

05:26 GMT on Tuesday June 5th
Hosting delayed by 3 hours.
19:08 GMT on Thursday June 7th
Hosting delayed by 6 hours.
01:07 GMT on Friday June 8th
Hosting delayed by 12 hours.
06:09 GMT on Friday June 8th
Hosting delayed by 4 hours.
05:09 GMT on Tuesday June 12th
Hosting delayed by 24 hours.
03:06 GMT on Wednesday June 27th
Hosting interval changed to 36 hours.
13:19 GMT on Monday July 2nd
Hosting delayed by 12 hours.
00:56 GMT on Friday July 20th
Hosting delayed by 48 hours.



Thanks soy,

I can't see anything wrong with this one.

[Shardphoenix]

Then, I guess, it`s my own fault. :(
Well, I request moving to 48h schedule, then.

[jimbojones1971]

Well, I request moving to 48h schedule, then.

I be OK with a 48 hour schedule.

[bbz]

ok I will increase hosting time to 48 hours

[Shardphoenix]

Thank you very much.

[bbz]

I need to go away for 4 day, so I have extended the current turn timer to 96 hours, I also submitted my current turn, hopefully by the time im back everyone would have submitted the next turn as well so that we dont prolongue the game too much and I will revert the timer back to 48h after that.

[jimbojones1971]

Cool, thanks bbz.

[bbz]

Guys, I'm not sure If I'm the only one that got this message, I will have to double check to see what happened. But apparently I had an unexplained increase in wealth which might come from cheating>???

Edit: my treasury supply seems to be ok, no increase there.

Edit2: I also seem to have -12 nature gems wtf?

Edit3: Ok I see what the problem seems to be. I ordered one of my guys to forge the chalice last turn. Usually that artifact costs 40 nature gems and 25 astral gems. And I had that covered last turn. Although I guess due to the mod the cost of this artifact was changed to 40 nature gems and 25 more nature gems.(not sure if it was intentional).

I will check in the debug mod to play around with it. and see what happens.

edit: you are able to forge the chalice with fewer resources than what you have.(due to the change/bug in the gem cost).

Now I have to options: since I dont like to cheat.

1.trade up my astral gems into nature gems so that I dont have a negative nature gems and I get the ammount of nature gems that I get per turn which is +6 (I would have been able to do that the last turn as well If I had noticed that).

2. discard the chalice and forge it again.(I feel that thats gonna be a bit unfair on me but its your call guys).

3. I roll-back the turn. Submit only my turn (since I'm not in a war with anyone I cannot abuse the roll-back and see ifno one gets a: player bbz has cheated message(hopefully).
Turns that have been submitted for the previous turn should be the same. Although the random generator might change the outcome of some of the battles that you guys had(if you had any) So its up to you guys to decide what to do.


P.s Options 1 and 2 rely on the chalice being the only reason for the cheating. So I feel that roll-back might be the best option.(if there is some other reason for the cheat message that I have missed) But option 3 might change the outcome of some of the battles. So let me know what you guys want to do Until then the game is suspended (I will extend the turn if there is a need to and the issue is not resolved by then.

[bbz]

If none of you guys had a game winning/loosing battles I'd rather redo the turn. To make sure that that was the only problem.

I've sent email to all. So hopefully we can get replys soon and get the game running as normal shortly after.

[TimeLegend]

I wouldn't mind a rollback myself as nothing of note has really happened as of yet other then Lanka still refusing to die :(. So that's my opinion on the matter.

[bbz]

Ok just to let you know. doing the roll back wouldnt involve any of you submitting a turn(I think llama server keeps the previously submitted turns in its database. So only I will submit a turn and then force hosting this way we get the new turn and everyone has submitted a turn.) So no extra micro will be required from you guys.

Although you will have to submit the current turn 50(for those who have already submitted it) again.

[Nightfall]

My suggestion would be to just alchemise the pearls, roll backs almost always cause problems.

On a side note, apparently the chalice is not unique in this mod, since there is already one sitting in my lab. Would have been nice to know that before I forged it, as it was purely a denial move.

[bbz]

My suggestion would be to just alchemise the pearls, roll backs almost always cause problems.

On a side note, apparently the chalice is not unique in this mod, since there is already one sitting in my lab. Would have been nice to know that before I forged it, as it was purely a denial move.

Is it not unique???? Damn it:D I was doing that for the same reason.

Ok I will hear some more suggestions to see how people feel about it and then let you all know what my decision is.(P.s I know about the urban legend that roll-backs cause problems, but out of the 5 games I had 2 of them had a few roll-back and it worked out O.K without bugs) Still risking the whole game might not be a good idea.

[jimbojones1971]

My suggestion would be to just alchemise the pearls, roll backs almost always cause problems.

On a side note, apparently the chalice is not unique in this mod, since there is already one sitting in my lab. Would have been nice to know that before I forged it, as it was purely a denial move.

I am with Nightfall on this - lets just do option 1 and push on. Rollbacks just invite problems.

Seems like there is a mod issue, such is life!

It will be amusing to have numerous chalices doing the rounds, though :-)

[dojango]

I may be on the way out, but just carry on. If you feel bad about getting an interest-free loan of nature gems, just alchemize some pearls to make up for the deficit. The chalice is non-unique and costs 65 nature gems in this mod.

[bbz]

:) Ok seems like the majority of you want to get on with the game. So be it. I alchemised to get +6 nature gems. Thx all for the replys.:)

[jimbojones1971]

Game on!

[Shardphoenix]

No rollbacks, please. I hate rollbacks.

[Nightfall]

P.s I know about the urban legend that roll-backs cause problems, but out of the 5 games I had 2 of them had a few roll-back and it worked out O.K without bugs

It's not an urban legend, I've only had rollbacks tried in 2 games in the past; and they resulted in 2 dead games.

[HoleyDooley]

I hate roll backs because of the supposed errors/dead games it causes but never had direct evidence of it. Thx Nightfall now I can quote someone with real experience.

HD

[Ragnarok-X]

Time for little mocking. Basicly, Niefelheim decided to wrote Maverni funny messsages the last turns, obviously ignoring the fact that i had to fight IMBALANCE.

Anyways, this is the army he brought this turn.

http://prntscr.com/d25ox

A hero, several thug'd Jarls and recruit Sacreds, well equipped.
Just an example.
http://prntscr.com/d25s9


This is what happened.

http://prntscr.com/d25ti



Let it be a warning to any fool trespassing Maverni. While we hold only few land, it is sacred to us and will be defended with claw and teeth if necesarry.

Tonight, we shall drink met from the skulls of Niefelheim.

[jimbojones1971]

Yep, I'm done for. The only good news is that Pan is going to be the guy who captures all my land instead of Marverni, which makes me very happy :D

[Ragnarok-X]

You dont seem to have scouts around. Im dead since 15 turns, only using recruited armies and researching stuff. I would not be able to capture anything at all :D

[jimbojones1971]

You dont seem to have scouts around. Im dead since 15 turns, only using recruited armies and researching stuff. I would not be able to capture anything at all :D

Sounds like this has been the fight of the dead men then! All my expansion parties got smashed early on, so I never really got going on this one - no money, and no land.

I think not having score graphs on changed things a lot, though - in a game with graphs everyone would have seen I had no research / income / gems and I would have been killed a lot earlier.

So I think I like the idea of playing without score graphs!

[Jolly Roger]

Gentlemen,


don´t know who´s the administrator now.

I´m on vacation, TIAVALS will replace me.

Please send the files to his email address as long I´m away.

Thanks, Klaus

[Tiavals]

It would be nice if the person with the administrator privileges for the game could change Klaus email to mine. It's simply my forum name at gmail dot com. Thanks.

[Tiavals]

It would be nice if the person with the administrator privileges for the game could change Klaus email to mine. It's simply my forum name at gmail dot com. Thanks.

Bump

[Shardphoenix]

Oh, well... Oceania started a war against me, breaking a NAP with OVER 9000 tidal waves.

[Nightfall]

Oh, well... Oceania started a war against me, breaking a NAP with OVER 9000 tidal waves.

I have no idea what your talking about...

Although it's nice to see you admitting to keeping a NAP with me secret at the same time that your openly trying to get other people to attack me.

[Shardphoenix]

I have no idea what your talking about... Do I look like an idiot?
Although it's nice to see you admitting to keeping a NAP with me secret The only reason I was keeping a NAP with you is that Pan can`t really wage war with underwater nation. In fact, on this map NOBODY can.
But make no mistake - victory isn`t going to be easy for you.

[Ragnarok-X]

Im going to be away until sunday evening. Current turn is in though.

[Shardphoenix]

Harpies are dangerous. Oceania, fear me! :)))

[Ragnarok-X]

Im pretty sure i had a NAP with Oceania since WAY back that just got broken without formally ending it. Not that it matters, but it aint nice one bit Nightfall.

[Nightfall]

Nope... Only formed 2 NAP's all game, and your definately not one of them, one is still in effect and one of them was illegitimately breeched by the other party.

Your blatant lies are not appreciated.

[Ragnarok-X]

It is no lie. Im pretty sure we had a NAP going on since way back, turn 15 or so. But its no problem.

[Nightfall]

It is a problem, just not in the the way you think...

There has never been a NAP between us; there has never even been a NAP proposed between us. I have every private message since the start of this game saved. The only private message I have had from you the entire game is a query about purchasing a water booster from me.

You are a complete and utter douchebag, I'm not the only person in this game that thinks so, and everyone in the community needs to know it...

//Final Straw

[Nightfall]

It is no lie. Im pretty sure we had a NAP going on since way back, turn 15 or so. But its no problem.

Just realised that there is even a post in this thread of you whining in meta about 2 territories I took off you in, I think, turn 33 and 34 that makes no mention of this fabrication.

[jimbojones1971]

What most people fail to appreciate is that Ragnarok-X owns a Dr Who style Tardis, which he frequently uses both to change the past and also to travel to alternate dimensions.

This can lead to confusion, as when you discover either that you have apparently been cheating (say, by having PD that gives you darkness with CBM1.92 Agartha), or indeed that you have a NAP with him that you don't remember signing and have no evidence of.

In this case, I dare say what has happened is that in an alternate version of this universe a version of you (possibly also a cyborg pirate living on one of the moons of Saturn) DID sign a NAP with the Raggster - but due to a schism in the time-space continuum, all evidence of said NAP has been lost. Apart from the single, priceless memory in Raggy Baby's head.

So rather than being upset, we should be thanking Ragnarok-X for being such a beacon of hope and learning in this otherwise sad and empty universe, by sharing his memories and experiences with us. On behalf of us all, thanks Raggie - I can honestly say, the game wouldn't be the same without you!

[HoleyDooley]

I didn't have time to review the earlier turns, but was going to. No need to now, because I could have sworn The Ones from beneath the waves had invaded much earlier in the game provinces belonging to Marveni. Nightfall has just confirmed my memory hasn't failed me.

Holding breath now for the forthcoming apology to Nightfall from Rag X...

Holding....holding......holding...damn I had to take a breath!

[Ragnarok-X]

Eh. wtf. Jimbo and Holey are angry because their game got screwed ?

[HoleyDooley]

Then I must get angry a lot, because I rarely do well, but have a hell of a time playing, specially against the likes of you Rag X.

Oh wait, no apology..........now how did I know there was never going to be one?
Thats because Rag X is a total.......(you fill in the blanks).

[jimbojones1971]

Eh. wtf. Jimbo and Holey are angry because their game got screwed ?

Dude, I'm on your side. I thought we were buddies?

[HoleyDooley]

Jimbo you bum, before you post such things there should be a disclaimer first to the effect.."Please stop drinking your hot coffee before reading what comes next".

Now I have to go and change my pants!!!!!!!

[Ragnarok-X]

Whoops, Mavernis Capitol is now under triton control.

[Jolly Roger]

I´ve watched your last stand at Marverni and must admit you fought a heroic battle.

[Ragnarok-X]

Heroic it was. I was hoping the Gifts would by accident hit a Triton King, but instead all i got was stupid cavemen and soulless. More luck next time, maybe.

[jimbojones1971]

Heroic it was. I was hoping the Gifts would by accident hit a Triton King, but instead all i got was stupid cavemen and soulless. More luck next time, maybe.

Did you record it, by chance? I'm always interested to see big climactic battles, as its a good way to improve my understanding of the game.

[Nightfall]

Just realised that bbz and Timelegend have like 7 consecutive stales???

Both approaching 20 stales each too, so it's probably a lot more then that...

[Nightfall]

Also kind of curious how someone can be at war with a staling player for multiple turns without saying something...

[jimbojones1971]

Also kind of curious how someone can be at war with a staling player for multiple turns without saying something...

It is even more embarrassing if you are at war with a staling player and losing ...

[Ragnarok-X]

Yay, HP rout for Oceania :D

And i got a message from Agartha about ending their NAP with Pan. Mistake ?

[Jolly Roger]

Gentlemen,

I´ll be on a trip to the beautiful city of Dresden from Thursday to Saturday evening. Gonna have no internet access until Sunday
morning ( GMT +1).

A break for this period would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Klaus

[Shardphoenix]

Oh, well... Agartha got hit by a truck.

[TimeLegend]

I know it has been a long time, but I'll do so anyway. I'm sorry I didn't inform you guys about getting out of the game. I had unexpected trip that cause me to miss a lot of turns. So when I got back I noticed I missed at least 4 turns and decided to go to AI mode, but it seems as if it didn't go through. So again I wish to apologies.

[HoleyDooley]

Oh, well... Agartha got hit by a truck.

Good call SP.

Not as big a truck that will hit you shortly...oh wait...you staled, I guess that means you have given up?

Check the log guys, Nightfall has this in the bag..only Jolly is man enough to keep submitting turns.

GG and grats Nightfall.

[Shardphoenix]

Good call SP.

Not as big a truck that will hit you shortly...
Sorry, I can`t hear you through the sound of dying oceanian SCs. :p
BTW, thanks for that Zmey, Nightfall. He is quite handy. :D
oh wait...you staled, I guess that means you have given up?No, it means I`ve missed a turn. :)

[Nightfall]

In case it's not obvious, this has become the most mind numbingly boring and pointless game I've ever had the displeasure to be involved in.

The only reason I'm still making a minimal effort and submitting turns is out of respect for Jolly Roger.

It's disappointing to add more people to your blacklist from one game than you had in total from seven other games.

[Ragnarok-X]

So that mean Pan is actually beating Oceania ?

[Shardphoenix]

Well, i kinda hold him back. And time is working for me, because... Just because.

[Nightfall]

So that mean Pan is actually beating Oceania ?

No.

But at this stage I'd be willing to call it a draw because it's simply not fun to have half the map stalling every turn.

[Nightfall]

Finially we have a password change so that the game has admin again.

As I going away on Friday for the holidays, the game has been postphoned until after the new year.