Small Game

[Gargouille]

Sory for my bad speak (and understand bad too, sory).
I would a game with 4 players with 2 team. Small map or bigger with victory points. One in each capitol, and 4 free. Victory is 5 points. All free points and one capitol, or 2 capitol and 3 free points = victory. For map, i dont know, you can propose..., or ramdom? It's just for fun, i want learn... Some people interested?

[Gargouille]

3players for 2 teams need...

[Folket]

I have not played for a while and it might be a good startup. I reserv a place for a friend on my team as well.

I think the victory should be at least 6 VPs. With only 5 VP it will be over in 10 turns. For example both team captures 2 VPs of the free once. Now the game ends as soon as any team looses a single VP.

[lucheng]

I want to join.
Then I'll be your team mate, Gargouille.
Folket and his friend is the other team.
I don't think we need victory points. We can simply fight until one team surrender. The final victory should be obvious after a few big battles.
I suggest using CBM1.92 Mod. That's the most popular mod, most of the games now use it.
I also suggest Easy research setting for this small game.(Then we can use more magic)

[lucheng]

For map, I suggest Bat Country
http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=838

[Gargouille]

I can no see the map with your link.
Ok, we are full, it's good.
Team= Folket and his friend, Lucheng and me.
Map= Bat County? (how download this map?)
Victory points= one in each capitol, 4 free
Victory= 5 (or 6?) points (we can add, keep this points for 3 turns?)
I prefer MA or LA (me never play in EA)
In LA, i prefer play with Jomon or Chelms (never play other)
In MA, i prefer play with Man, T'ien Ch'i, Marignon, Bandar or Eriu (never play other)

[Gargouille]

If you wan use msn, add my emesene (linux msn) yguarn16 (at) hotmail (dot) com
Lucheng, for allied, try play without ermor or R'lyeh (make allied coherent...)
I can see the map (sory), Bat Country is ok for me.

[lucheng]

Map download from here
http://koti.kapsi.fi/elmokki/dom3/maps/batcountry.zip

Or download from the attached file below
Features:
- Like 70-80% of the provinces are named with completely unfunny names!
- Wraparound!
- One sea connection between the cities marked by anchor!
- 65 land provinces and 8 sea provinces!
- Chances are some province connections are missing or shouldn't be there!
- A couple of provinces set as nostarts!

[Gargouille]

Resume:
Map= Bat country
Victory points= 6/8 (keep few turns? or just first surrender?)
Team= Folket + his friend, Lucheng + Gargouille

[Folket]

Looks like it will be a furious game. The slightly big map is a good idea.

I will have a talk with my friend and we will return with our prefered nations.

Are water nations fair game?
I could go either way on this one. With mostly land a water nation will be at disadvantage but they will have the advantage of having large borders with their opponents where they can raid and the water provinces are enough that it is not impossible to play a water nation. Three water nations should probably not be allowed. It would turn into a very strange and boring game.

So we play the unmoded game I take it from your summary? I like the unmoded game but I could go with anything.

I like having victory conditions but since the game is pretty small I could go either way.

[Gargouille]

Then, MA or LA? You want what nation?
I play with CBM 1.92 ettin fixed.
I think for small game, better with victory points and without underwater nation, no?

[Kadelake]

Hi! I'm the friend Folket mentioned.

[Folket]

It seems like you are new to multiplayer while we have been active a few years back.

To give you an edge we will let you choose two MA nations for us.

[Folket]

Where can we find the Ettin fixed version?

[Gargouille]

The mod is here: http://www.llamaserver.net/mapModBrowser.cgi
When i read the forum, i see lot of game use this mod, then i play with this mod...
Yes i am a newbee, but choose your nation, this game is for fun (and learn for me).

Small game (MA):
Team= Folket + Kadelake, Lucheng + Gargouille
Mod= Conceptual Balance Complete 1.92 Ettin Fixed
Map= Bat Country
Winners= 6/8 victory points (1pt in 4 capitol + 4 free points)

All nations ok? But better without underwater?
For me: Man, T'ien Ch'i, Marignon, Bandar or Eriu (dont know other)
It's first time for me create a game, i hope all be good.

[Gargouille]

Probleme, i no see the map (Bat country) in the list llamaserver...
http://www.llamaserver.net/createGame.cgi

[Gargouille]

Ok, i see for upload the map, the game is create:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SmallGame
Game name= SmallGame
Settings default
Team= Folket + Kadelake, Lucheng + Gargouille
Mod= Conceptual Balance Complete 1.92 Ettin Fixed
Map= Bat Country
Winners= 6/8 victory points (1pt in 4 capitol + 4 free points)

[lucheng]

I will play as MA Abysia

[Folket]

We will return with our choices tonight. Shall we aim at uploading our gods on Sunday and then 1 turn a day? I will be gone Friday and Saturday.

[Folket]

I will play Jotunheim while Kadelake will play Arcosephale.

[Folket]

There is no download link for the CBM 1.92 EttinFix on llamaserver. Any other place where I can download it?

[Valerius]

First you'll want to get CBM 1.92 from here (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=47741) because you'll need the sprites. Then you can download the fixed mod file from here (http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showpost.php?p=804194&postcount=441).

[Folket]

A lot of units are bugging for me. They loose all armour and have stats like normal humans.

[Folket]

I manage to solve the issue.

[Gargouille]

It's ok for mod?
Shall we aim at uploading our gods on Sunday and then 1 turn a day?
Ok for me.
I will play as MA Abysia
Ouch, it's hot... if you play Abysia, i play Bandar (hot too).

[Folket]

What ind strength are we playing and what site frequency?

[lucheng]

All other settings on default.
So indepent stength is 5. Site frequency is 40 for MA.

[Gargouille]

Yes indepent stength is 5, and site frequency "default" too.
I see (game page):
Nations joined so far:
Jotunheim
Ashdod
Who is Ashod?

[lucheng]

I guess Ashdod is an invader.
Gargouille, send the Ashdod player an E-mail to let him quit. Change the message on game page to tell other people this game is held on this forum.

[Gargouille]

Ok, done...

[Kadelake]

I've uploaded my pretender now and I'm ready to start :)

[Gargouille]

Ok, i enable automatic start. Me no see for "the duration of the tour". I think it's default, but how many time is default? 24h or 48h? Where can i change this time?

[lucheng]

There seems to be a bug. The game has not autostarted.

Gargouille, Click "Start game now"
Then set the time to 48h for the first turn.

[Gargouille]

Here http://www.llamaserver.net/pretAdmin.cgi?game=SmallGame i read only 3players, why? Here http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SmallGame i read 4 players, it's strange, no? Ok i "click start now" (and after 48h), and if one does not receive the trn file, he reports here.

[Gargouille]

For me it's ok, i receive my "trn file". And i modified "turn-time" for 48h.

[Folket]

Great, I see the game has started now. I expect us to play to turns tonight since you have already uploaded turn 1.

Good luck everyone.

[Gargouille]

Sory, yesterday i had changed time for 48h, and no understand why the turn shorter? I thought turn2 for 1first August, no understand... I believe Arcoscephale no play, how solve the problem?
Stop automatic turn? Can i manually "next turn" when all are play?

[Kadelake]

I just had a lot to do so it took me a while to find the time for dominions. I've sent in both my turns now :)

You can change the hosting interval in the admin options. When you need to postpone the turn temporarily, you can use the postpone turn option.

[Gargouille]

We continue with 48h?
No use "Roll game back to previous turn"?

[Kadelake]

Oh, no it worked fine when you changed it to 48h. I managed to send in my turn ok, no need for any rollbacks.

I'm ok with 48h but I'll still try to send in my turn in 24h whenever possible :)

[Folket]

Let us keep things as they are now. If things starts to be to slow or to fast we can change it.

Short timers are only needed when you are many to force everyone to send their turns.

[Folket]

I thought we were going to have easy research.

[Gargouille]

All settings are default (i have nothing changed).

[Gargouille]

You play well, it's hard for me.

[Folket]

Regarding your god, It sounded like Kadelake had massive luck.

I used to play without CBM so I'm finding out a lot this game. I think the awake dragon was a very good plan. Dragons seems to be very strong in CBM.

[Kadelake]

You're putting up a hard fight as well :)
I had almost given when I had a dragon in my capitol. I was pretty much planning to just slow you down as long as possible, to give Jotunheim a chance to maybe beat Abyssia meanwhile.

That dragon was really scary by the way :eek:

[Kadelake]

I have a question about the victory conditions. Do you win immediately upon holding 6 VP or do you have to hold them for some time?

[Gargouille]

As the game does not include teams, better is "firts team surrender", i believe. No? You can take alone all victory points for win?

[Folket]

I am pretty certain the objectives say keep for three turns. Who ever hold the VPs for three turns wins.

[Gargouille]

I cry my god (and not realy all understand of yours words).

[Folket]

It does not seem like I will be able to play my turn today.

But I will play it by tomorrow morning.

There is no problem with turn timer, just wanted people to know that this turn will be a little slow.

[Gargouille]

We are in very bad situation, no problem.
I play no good, but i learn with this game (me make lot of "error", i make bad placement, bad mouvement, bad use research...).

[lucheng]

We surrender.
Folket and Kadelake win.
You haven't got the 6 VP yet, but we can't stop you now.

[Folket]

I'm sorry to see it end so soon.

I guess I will now try to find out what happened to my prophet. He ran out to en empty square and took massive damage. Is that normal behaviour for rage?

Still a good game everyone. I was enjoying it. I am up for an other small game if anyone is interested.

[Gargouille]

Yes, Folket and Kadelake are winners.
If your prophet become "insane", he can do every strange thing.
Good game for me too (even though I played badly).
Lucheng is patient and gifted, we play quickly, i learn, good "small game" for me.
No problem for an other, if you want...

[Kadelake]

Yeah, sorry it ended so soon. Good luck next game :)

I think you did the right thing when sending your dragon to my capital, by the way. It was mostly luck that I managed to kill it.

[Gargouille]

For me, no luck, God give you, and after i see your better player as me.

[Folket]

Gargouille, I think you need to be a little less predictable. The beeline for our capital was little obvious after you had done it twice already. By making me either guess or split my forces you could have done a lot more harm.

I would not have dared to have my god in enemy dominion alone for two turns.

My Prophet was not insane and I have not seen insanity affect battles before. What happen is that Abysia cast rage on him. Then he died for no reason.

[Gargouille]

For next small game, waiting. Now i play in Primordial_Cake and in "french game" with private server. But i like "small game", it's fun and very different, i like. Waiting few time, and ok for me play new "small game". See later and thank for fun.