Peace_and_Love, no diplo, gaming

[earcaraxe]

map: sixlands
era: early
hosting: llamaserver, 24 hrs from start, then increase only at consensus. tolerance to RL.
mods: CBM 1.94
players: 6
diplomacy: not allowed
victory: consensus

this is intended to be a faster paced game, just like a quick game versus 5 smart AIs. if u tend to be the last person sending ur turns in or if u have the tendency to nearly always send ur turns in just before the deadline, please join other games instead.

Pretenders must be sent in WITHIN 24 HOURS of posting the application here to make the application valid. (to avoid dragging the start out for weeks).

If u join this game please keep fighting until u can, dont quit too early. on the other hand we wont spend too much time looking for subs, if u are in a hopeless situation, just turn the AI on.

We are waiting for competent players with some experience.

good luck and much fun to everyone!

(* denotes unsent pretenders)

fantomen : Sauromatia
Psisoldier:Pangaea
keithz : Ermor
harmonius: C'tis
starcryst: Helheim
earcaraxe: Lanka

[starcryst]

Helheim please.

[Fantomen]

diplomacy: not allowed in any form
victory: consensus


I'd just like to point out that these potentially contradict each other, if someone suggests a winner and this is not accepted it will work the same as a call to gank that nation, which is a form of diplomacy. This isn't just theorycrafting, it happened in a recent game that Bullock hosted.

[starcryst]

diplomacy: not allowed in any form
victory: consensus


I'd just like to point out that these potentially contradict each other, if someone suggests a winner and this is not accepted it will work the same as a call to gank that nation, which is a form of diplomacy. This isn't just theorycrafting, it happened in a recent game that Bullock hosted.

Good point, but should easily be handled by having the votes for a winner be privately sent to the admin and the admin declares when a consensus has been reached. Will require defining what is meant by a consensus in advance (majority? unanimous? something else?).

[Teraswaerto]

That only works if the admin is not playing in the game and is considered impartial by all participants.

[Fantomen]

Except the fact that through this voting the playing admin would have an ongoing flow of information about which nation is considered the most powerful by everyone else, effectively increasing his strategical knowledge.

Edit: Ninjad by Taeraswaerto...

[starcryst]

That only works if the admin is not playing in the game and is considered impartial by all participants.

Good point. I was assuming the admin wasn't a player, which I guess isn't that common. Might be a good feature to implement in a future patch of Dom - the ability for people to vote whether or not someone has won and to end the game when a certain requirement is met. Shouldn't be too hard to patch in I would think.

[parone]

one would think the esteemed Dr. EarWax would have taken all of the psychological issues and their impact on the game into accout.

:D

[earcaraxe]

diplomacy: not allowed in any form
victory: consensus


I'd just like to point out that these potentially contradict each other, if someone suggests a winner and this is not accepted it will work the same as a call to gank that nation, which is a form of diplomacy. This isn't just theorycrafting, it happened in a recent game that Bullock hosted.

good point, thanks.

[earcaraxe]

on the other hand, i dont want the make the victory conditions more complicated than necessary, i have admined several no diplo games, and determinig the winner never was a serious problem. On this map in most cases there is a final, deciding war between the 2 strongest nations, and thats it. if someone prefers to avoid the uncertainity of the incompleteness/inconsistency of the rules, please join one of my other, more defined, diplo games instead.

[KeithZ]

Ermor, please.

[harmonius]

I haven't MP experience, but I am well-prepared. If you accept me, C'tis.

[earcaraxe]

welcome all!

[Excist]

If it's helpful I can secretly collect votes when people are at the point that they would be willing to concede if it was unanimous.

I check forums a couple of times/day on my iPhone and can just leave a message if I receive a concession from all the players still in the game.

All I'd require in exchange is an auto forward email rule of llamaserver's turn file from one of the players so I can enjoy observing. ;)

[Fantomen]

Can I join as Sauromatia?

[PsiSoldier]

Pangaea if there is still room here

[earcaraxe]

Can I join as Sauromatia?

sure, why not? welcome on board!

[earcaraxe]

Pangaea if there is still room here

greetings! we are ready to go then!

[earcaraxe]

If it's helpful I can secretly collect votes when people are at the point that they would be willing to concede if it was unanimous.

I check forums a couple of times/day on my iPhone and can just leave a message if I receive a concession from all the players still in the game.

All I'd require in exchange is an auto forward email rule of llamaserver's turn file from one of the players so I can enjoy observing. ;)

thats great, thanks! send me a PM and i'll forward u my turns.

[YellowCactus]

Good Luck all! I'll be Trolling as usual!

[Fantomen]

I won't get home in time today, i need an extra 5 hours or so.

[earcaraxe]

no problem, hosting postponed by 6 hours.

[Fantomen]

Thanks, turn is in.

[harmonius]

I don't want to play games anymore. So I go AI.

[Excist]

On turn TWELVE?

Turn Zero or Turn 70 is a much better time to realize that you don't want to play games than turn 12.

Just my 2 cents as an impartial observer.

[earcaraxe]

I don't want to play games anymore. So I go AI.

please reconsider and stay, we would like to play with u. we started this together, im sure everyone here wants to finish it together too, with the company of you.

[earcaraxe]

I don't want to play games anymore. So I go AI.


i also wonder what happened in the first 12 turns that u didnt see coming. apparently u havent fought any battles with anyone yet.

[harmonius]

I feel bad when I play Dominions from first turns. Now I am at the point when I can't play anymore.

[earcaraxe]

whoops, for some reason (perhaps forgefulness) i didnt extend the current turn, contrary to my intentions. we gonna play this out the 5 of us then.

[earcaraxe]

postponed by 24 hrs.

[earcaraxe]

Guys! im terribly sorry, but i cant continue playing the game due to unexpected life events. im losing the girl i love, and i cant make myself do any turns nowadays. I guess its one of those situtations, when life takes precedence. I have PM-ed Psisoldier the admin password, and i have not turned my nation to AI, so u can find someone willing. Lanka is in an "everything is possible" position. Its been a great joy playing together with you, i hope we will have more fun together in the future, and i wish u all good luck!

[starcryst]

No worries. Real life >> games. Hope everything turns out okay with your girl.

[PsiSoldier]

Ok. Sorry to hear about that. Hope you get everything straightened out.. I know my wife get's pretty annoyed when I'm spending too much time with Dom3 or pretty much anything but her lol

I have postponed hosting by a couple days hopefully we will get things settled and find a replacement before then..

On a side note I see Ctis has gone AI which sucks. Would have been nice if he had stuck around a few more turns and found a sub.

[Excist]

It occurs to me that earcaraxe's choice of title was ironic in this case.

[starcryst]

C'tis is being a pain as AI. I'd much rather try to predict what a player intends to do than guess with the AI. :P

[starcryst]

I have a friend who's interested in taking Lanka's position. He's just waiting for the board admin to approve his account so he can post.

[PsiSoldier]

Ok cool

[Katzwinkel]

Hello! I would like to play the Lanka option, please and thank you.

[Fantomen]

I'm sorry for the stales guys, I'm back on track now and not too hurt by them. Won't happen again.

[Fantomen]

The game should be postponed so Katzwinkel can get his turn in.

[starcryst]

I don't think he's actually gotten an invite yet. He said he hadn't been contacted by anyone.

[PsiSoldier]

Yeah still have no sub for Lanka. I will try to extend the turns more until we can get a Sub But I don't want everyone to loose all interest in this game either.

If we can get a sub great If not I will turn it AI soon.

[bbz]

Ok I'll give it a try, I've never played Lanka before so I'd need some time to familiarise myself with it. I can start submitting turns on Monday evening. So if you could extend the game until then that'd be great.

[bbz]

Hmmm I'm not sure, but wasn't Katzwinkel supposed to play Lanka? if that is the case and he still wants to play, I dont mind babysitting Lanka for a bit and then handing it over to him (I'd rather do that). But if he quit on the position well.. then don't mind taking over permanently.

[Katzwinkel]

I would recommend letting BBZ take Lanka. I'm brand-spanking new to this whole concept, and I'd rather just focus on one game to start (which I have elsewhere). Thanks much for the consideration, though.

[bbz]

Guys since no one has contacted me yet, and Lanka keeps on stalling i think i'm gonna withdraw my application for this sub-position. Im really sorry but I still cant get my head around the game yet and jumping in a middle of a fight might not be the best re-start for me.
Sorry again and hope you find some sub for the position(if Katzwinkel is still up for it he could use it as a test subject for his current game so that when he gets to mid game he's not completely taken by surprise)
Hope you find a solution and have fun.

[PsiSoldier]

Doh.. I was checking for PM's not posts here. I'm setting Lanka to AI

[PsiSoldier]

Still need a volunteer to set Lanka to AI though

[bbz]

check your inbox:)

[PsiSoldier]

Wow. I just checked the score tables on my phone for the new turn. Looks like Lanka has been very busy this turn. For a second I thought I was looking at the score table for a different game. Haha I can't wait to get home and see what has actually happened. Looks like things may get a Tad more interesting.

[KeithZ]

Wow. I just checked the score tables on my phone for the new turn. Looks like Lanka has been very busy this turn. For a second I thought I was looking at the score table for a different game. Haha I can't wait to get home and see what has actually happened. Looks like things may get a Tad more interesting.

That hurts...

I nearly forgot lanka was still in this game before.

PS: Helheim got the second stale, what shall we do?

[bbz]

well Helheim stalling is not good neither Saro turning AI. I guess we just try and fight as much as we can, and thats that.

I have no doubt that Ermor is going to be able to stop me, (especially since they won't be hard pressed by Helheim) but I'm not gonna go down without a fight:)

Regarding Helheim stalling we could after this turn start looking for a sub I guess. Probably he got discouraged by someone dispelling his Ancient furnace, or I don't know what.

[PsiSoldier]

Didn't realize he was stalling. I just had someone set Saudi to AI ill do the same to helhiem if we have to

[bbz]

Last Activity: Today 07:03 AM that's Helheim , so I think he probably lost interest in the game. Might be worth PM him to see what he's up to.

[Teraswaerto]

I can take over Helheim. First time subbing, dreading what I'll see opening the turn. :)

[KeithZ]

Do you guys still want to continue this game? I think it's time to end it and declare lanka the winner.

Of course, I'm also ok to keep playing for a few more turns if Pan want to continue.

[KeithZ]

well Helheim stalling is not good neither Saro turning AI. I guess we just try and fight as much as we can, and thats that.

I have no doubt that Ermor is going to be able to stop me, (especially since they won't be hard pressed by Helheim) but I'm not gonna go down without a fight:)

Regarding Helheim stalling we could after this turn start looking for a sub I guess. Probably he got discouraged by someone dispelling his Ancient furnace, or I don't know what.

I was not that strong as you expected... I have no preparation for your attack at all, and a bad event destoried a critical laboratory of mine on the exact turn you attacked me, it hurts me even worse.

IMO, Helheim had the best chance to win this game if he didn't abandon it. I dispelled the acient forge, but it cost me 120 S Pearl (probably I wasted a lot). And with the Well of misery global and many artifacts, they should have many things to do.

Anyway, very nice play, bbz

[Teraswaerto]

It seems Helheim has been set to AI. It was done after I volunteered to sub though, PsiSoldier never responded to my PM.

[bbz]

Ye I agree that Helheim had the best chance of winning the game. And I don't mind calling it a game either or if Pangaea wants to go on I wouldn't mind continuing either. Its up to you guys.

[bbz]

Nice play, that Enchantment might just destroy me....

[bbz]

Would it be possible to make the hosting intervals 72 hrs. Since I have a trip and I'm not sure if I'd be able to do many turns.

[PsiSoldier]

This game is far from over. Lanka is hurting now and Pangaea is only getting stronger. If Lanka does what I expect him to do this turn I will pretty much destroy him if all goes according to plan. Not to mention that the AI seems to be taking a pretty good chunk out of Lanka as well.

Anyways sorry about setting Helhiem to AI but I didn't even feel like messing around finding a sub. And it was done BEFORE I had any offers.

[PsiSoldier]

As for changing the hosting period I prefer to keep it at 48 but if you need it temporarily changed for a trip I can do that. But I will be changing it back to 48.. Me myself I usually have my turn in in about 1 hour after receiving the new turn so I never understand why it takes other's so long to get turns in.

[bbz]

No its not the fact of how long it takes to make a turn, its the fact that I can be away from the computer doing other things for 72hrs then I can come do my old turn and the new turn and then I have another 70+ hours where I don't have to think about dominions or finding a place with internet, or if I cant find internet then I just stale and minimise the damage done.(because its one stale instead of 2) I am happy to put the game back to 48hrs after that the time period I'm talking about is from the 28th of march till the 6th of April. So that should be like 3-4 turns if you guys don't mind.

[bbz]

I do agree that now Pangaea seems to have the best chance of winning.

[bbz]

Guys, I give up I can't keep this up anymore, you can offer someone to sub in for me just the game is not enjoyable anymore, I've slaughtered insane amount of Pangaea's units and the position is still undecided, but the whole micro is taking its toll. You can look for a sub for me or I can just turn AI if you want me to. Let me know which one you prefer.(the whole point is that if I leave then Ermor wins because Pangaea has no answer for Ermor's SC's) I can not win an attiration war against the 2 AI and Ermor, and if Pangaea hadn't attacked me and attacked and finished Ermor on time, they would have had a chance of winning(if they managed to come through me).

I can still stop Ermor (with pangaea's help) due to my anti-undead power(given that he's gone heavy on the Wendigos) but I really can not be bothered with this game anymore its not pleasant at all.

[PsiSoldier]

I have a definite answer for Ermor's SCs It's called Life for a life And Horror Marks and let's not forget the lvl 9 blood spells that I'm more than capable of casting to send them off to hell. I already taught him not to send his King of Banefire's into my territory and I'm considering doing the same with his wendigo's The fact is His SC's couldn't kill my troops fast enough to prevent me from taking them out at my leisure. Soon as I see an SC in my dominion my immortal pretender gets teleported there to pop the SC a few good times and that's that although I'm not planning on doing it this turn since I'm curious what he's planning to do. Besides all that, Ermor's position is really hopeless. NO SC has any hope of besieging my forts on his own and Ermor has not got the resources to send a normal army to engage in that sort of warfare and if they did they would be facing an equal army of vampires each and every turn they were in my dominion. Of course that's not to mention I'm equipping my own gift of healthed SC's now too..


If you don't feel like playing any more I'd appreciate if you can find a Sub or give it a shot for a few days if you have no luck that I guess one more AI won't make a huge difference.

[bbz]

Ok fair enough, I don't think I can stop you then either:) My decision was based on what I've seen from your warfare. I'd be happy to declare you the winner:) The AI is grinding my forces down, and I can't stop any of Ermor's SC's roaming my territory.

Not to mention your vampires. I manage to take out huge chunks of your army every now and then, but I think you can replace those quite quickly. Well played and thx for the game.
I will play the game until we get a reply from Ermor, but I had the feeling that he didn't fancy continuing the game either.

[KeithZ]

If bbz is going to leave, then please end this game and Pangaea wins.

[bbz]

Ok congrats PsiSoldier, I forfeit, well played.

[KeithZ]

Well, congrats PsiSoldier. It's not a complete game but I still had some fun here.
I still remeber it was really a shock when I opened the turn that lanka started to attack me. Like an invisible man suddenly stab you from your back.

[bbz]

xD I'm glad that I made you feel this way! Fear me mortal!!! But ye you defended well, so I couldn't finish you before Pangaea joined in the fight.

[PsiSoldier]

Yeah it was fun. I actually think I have more fun in games that I loose where I can fight to the bloody end. Sadly it seems more games end like this or with too many people dropping to keep the game entertaining enough for everyone to stay.. but thanks for the game guys! And thank you for stepping in to subfor Lanka as well :)

[bbz]

You are welcome, I'm sorry for sitting this one out, but it became more like a Single Player struggle game than anything for me, too random to be enjoyable.

Congrats again and hope to see you guys again in another game:)

[starcryst]

Guys I wanted to apologize for going stale in this game. As a new player, I took on too many games at once and then real world stuff got in the way and I simply didn't have the time to stay on top of the games I'd committed myself too.

Anyway - Congrats to PsiSoldier on the win and hope to see you in another game.

[bbz]

No worries starcryst:) Everybody makes this mistake with dominions 3:)