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Gandalf Parker
January 3rd, 2013, 01:06 PM
The progress page of Illwinters newer game "Conquest of Elysium 3" has just added these...

3rd January 2013
* --simpgfx for simple graphics (for slow computers).
* Faster and more responsive new turn generation.
* Linux: Support for Raspberry Pi ($30 computer).
* Linux: Fixed bug in ALSA shutdown and error handling.

Im expecting a backport to Dom3.

So... a credit-card sized linux computer that you can hook to a tv at work. Hmmm....
http://www.raspberrypi.org/quick-start-guide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs

So I guess Johan got a Rasberry for xmas. Thats how we got NetBook support.

Does anyone have any experience with these? I see that the Rasberry is approaching Android compliance. I kept saying someone should buy Johan an android phone :) Maybe this is going to slide us into some real portable gaming

Soyweiser
January 3rd, 2013, 02:36 PM
FYI: Raspberry not Rasberry.

elmokki
January 3rd, 2013, 03:57 PM
Android port is probably unlikely - though I sure am not KO nor entirely sure that I am correct - since Android to my best knowledge still wants you to use Java. Since Dominions 3 for sure isn't coded in Java, it is not a simple task by any means to port it to Android.

Gandalf Parker
January 3rd, 2013, 04:22 PM
They have BASICs for Android

JonBrave
January 4th, 2013, 05:05 PM
For Dom3 (not necessarily CoE), did not we have a post in another thread stating that Dom3 was coded in C#? I must be going mad, because that seems an odd choice to include Linux...) :confused:

Gandalf Parker
January 4th, 2013, 05:43 PM
That would be a strange choice indeed.
Dominions was originally programmed on an Amiga using GFX Basic. Then ported to Linux. Various moves since then. Its now developed on Linux (Ubuntu) and I believe there is a lot of C in it. But I doubt Microsoft C#. Its a Linux game, then ported to Windows and Mac.

Turns out moot anyway.
Johan has an Android and says the screen is too small for our games. It would take a lot of rewrite

elmokki
January 5th, 2013, 09:37 AM
I believe Dominions 3 is made with C++ (or just plain C). I'm 99% sure it is not made with C# because it does definitely not require .NET libraries. I would be also baffled if it was made with Java.

They have BASICs for Android

Which is completely irrelevant. Also it's actually still Java - the thing just converts your BASIC code to an Android application.


Turns out moot anyway.
Johan has an Android and says the screen is too small for our games. It would take a lot of rewrite

Of course his personal Android device is what matters, but I would like to note that there are Android tables that have higher resolutions and similiar size screens as some netbooks. OUYA is also theoretically coming at some point. That said I really doubt it'd be worth porting the game to the platform even if it was easier than it probably is.

Also touch control sounds somewhat scary for a game like Dominions 3.

Gandalf Parker
January 5th, 2013, 11:18 AM
Touch Control (Windows 8) is being tested with CoE3 and apparently its quite addictive. But I think CoE3 is more mousey than Dom3 which can make a difference there.

The more I look at Raspberry (thanks Soyweiser) the more I think I could have some fun there. Playing on a really monstrous sized TV screen using air-mouse controls. And all with a computer that fits in my pocket. OK NOW I think these games REALLY need a BossKey.

Of course its around his personal android. Maybe we need to get him some other phone.

Foodstamp
January 5th, 2013, 11:27 PM
I bought a couple of these late last year. I didn't realize they did not come with power cables, so they have been sitting around collecting dust. I planned to use one for the living room TV and one as a classic console game emulator. I didn't think Dominions would run on it. When I get around to ordering the rest of the components, I will let you know how it runs.

JonBrave
January 6th, 2013, 05:17 PM
I bought a couple of these late last year. I didn't realize they did not come with power cables, ...

This thread stimulated me to go have a look. It seems like the minimal practical "starter kit" work out at US$100...

Have you thought of starting breeding from the pair? :)

Gandalf Parker
January 6th, 2013, 06:43 PM
It looks like a fun geek toy. For $30 you get all the guts of a computer that you can get creative on a case for. Tupperware, wood, an Altoids tin, the pocket of your shirt, maybe some of the really creative cases they have come out with for iPods and iPhones. Personally I like the retro looks
Retro Cases (http://www.amazon.com/s/?_encoding=UTF8&tag=althackerorg-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=390957&field-keywords=retro%20case&url=search-alias%3Daps)

Then I was looking at the keyboard/mouse options. Little keyboards like cell phones use, wifi, wireless, bluetooth. I especially like the ones with Air Mouse options.
USB Keyboard/Mouse (http://www.amazon.com/s/?_encoding=UTF8&tag=althackerorg-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=390957&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Ausb%20keyboard%20mouse%20portable&field-keywords=usb%20keyboard%20mouse%20portable&url=search-alias%3Daps)

I like Linux anyway. There are a lot of fun little portable things that could plug into one of these.

Foodstamp
January 6th, 2013, 07:40 PM
I bought a couple of these late last year. I didn't realize they did not come with power cables, ...

This thread stimulated me to go have a look. It seems like the minimal practical "starter kit" work out at US$100...

Have you thought of starting breeding from the pair? :)

That sounds about right if you need all the components.

elmokki
January 7th, 2013, 02:41 PM
There are many alternative super cheap computers available too. Like those Android sticks which I heard can be made run Ubuntu.

Gandalf Parker
January 7th, 2013, 03:15 PM
Well if anyone wants to try it, go for it. If they can speak code and ask nice in a non-insulting manner they can even get help. I saw some great conversations between Johan and various groups. One I remember was a PandoraBox group trying to get Dom3 to run on their portables.

Musrum_
March 10th, 2013, 08:18 PM
I'm interested. I was using an Eeepc for hosting but the little fan eventually started complaining about the 24/7 workload.

I've installed the latest PiBang server edition (no DE) and I've copied all my saved games and scripts across.

Now I'm at the point where I can't get the executable to run:

zsh: exec format error: dom3_x86

and:

zsh: exec format error: dom3_amd64

I assume this will need a new compile for the ARM Architecture.

If someone is willing to help that would be fantastic.