Fallen Enchantress - LA Marignon - BBZ Winner !!

[Bullock]

All players with a track record of at least few months of play are welcome (on shrapnel or somewhere else). The game will be relatively fast paced, so don't join if you lack the time for such game.

And like for all the games i'm the admin, i'm looking for persistent players who won't leave after the first defeat on the battlefield.

Map: Plane of Rusty Nails
Players: 5-13
Age: LA
Diplo : Everything is allowed. Trade is binding though.
Turns: Initially 24 hours, 36h trn20, then increase on request
Mods: CBM 1.94 / Streamers & standards
Gamelink: http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Fallen_enchantress

Ermor is forbidden

Ind:7
Gems:50
Renaming: ON
Charts: ON
All other settings: Default

all settings can be discussed.

Disallowed exploits:
*Copying Bogus' orders and overfilling enemy lab to prevent his own forge.
*Probing armies with scouts/commanders must be done in such a way so as not to block movement.


Players:

Bullock - Bogarus
Bbz - Marignon
Ghoul31 - Pangaea
Tiavals - Ctis
Matty - Jomon
Jolly Roger - Gath
Ossa - Tien Chi
Jimbojones - Midgard
TheHeatMiser - Agartha

Have left without notice : skymoon - Psycho chick - Mscfish

[ghoul31]

Its hard to pick a nation when you don't say the age.

[skymoon]

LA Ctis, please.

[Bullock]

Its hard to pick a nation when you don't say the age.

It's LA

[ghoul31]

Pangaea

[Psycho chick]

Hello guys, a new LA game? I want try Jomon.

[Jolly Roger]

Gath for me.

Thanks, Klaus

[Bullock]

Welcome everybody, game is up for pretenders:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Fallen_enchantress

[Ossa]

I'll go with TC

[TheHeatMiser]

Mictlan please

[Immaculate]

If you stay at 9 players or less i'd like to get in as abysia. if the game grows beyond 9 players i will abstain joining- i don't like massive endgame grind.

[bbz]

The map on the game link is for 9 people, I think. But see what Bullock says about that.

[mscfish]

I'll go with midgard

[TheHeatMiser]

went in as Argatha

[Bullock]

If you stay at 9 players or less i'd like to get in as abysia. if the game grows beyond 9 players i will abstain joining- i don't like massive endgame grind.

Hey imma i'd be glad to see u in.
I reserve abysia for you & you tell me later.
If we have many players i reduce the number of prov per player. I don't like big map to grind in the end game either.

But will you reach end game anyway ? ;)

The map on the game link is for 9 people, I think. But see what Bullock says about that.

Yeah i put a map randomly because i had to set one.

went in as Argatha

Sry heatmiser your account sounds too noobish. If you have some MP experience tell me.

[TheHeatMiser]

PM sent and pretender uploaded

[Psycho chick]

Hi bullock..I want change to utgard. Already upload pretender.

[Bullock]

PM sent and pretender uploaded

Ok u r in

Hi bullock..I want change to utgard. Already upload pretender.

OK, Agartha deleted.


The game will start tonight! Get ready gentlemen.

[Bullock]

You can post your wishes for the map. If none i'll pick one of my own with max 15prov per player.

[Psycho chick]

Hi bullock..I want change to utgard. Already upload pretender.

OK, Agartha deleted.


The game will start tonight! Get ready gentlemen.[/QUOTE]

Bull, not Agartha. I changed from Jomon to Utgard.

[Bullock]

Hi bullock..I want change to utgard. Already upload pretender.

OK, Agartha deleted.


The game will start tonight! Get ready gentlemen.

Bull, not Agartha. I changed from Jomon to Utgard.[/QUOTE]

Ah damn. I'll PM agarthas owner.

Edit: I don't see any agartha player. So sounds good.

[bbz]

went in as Argatha

hes your agartha guy

[TheHeatMiser]

Reuploaded argatha pretender, sorry about the confusion. Game On!:up:

[Bullock]

Ok i ve pmed immaculate.
We start as it is in few hours

Last chance to join!

[Immaculate]

Gonna pass. I think i'll try to join one with an old friend.

[Bullock]

Alright then ! I have picked the easy way : We were 9 i had a 9fixed lands map selected ... so lets go for Plane of Rusty Nails !

[bbz]

sure lets roll!!

[bbz]

I wish all of you guys bad luck but have fun!:D

[TheHeatMiser]

hot potato thrown to mscfish

[Psycho chick]

bullock, I want defer the game for 24h.

[Bullock]

i'll try to remember when the next turn is here.

[TheHeatMiser]

Agartha has been viciously attacked by Ctis and Utgard!

[ghoul31]

Ahh Bullock, always the the coward.

Its pretty much a given that you will attack me from behind every game

[ghoul31]

You should change your nick from Bullock to the back door man.

[Bullock]

Ahh Bullock, always the the coward.

Its pretty much a given that you will attack me from behind every game

Dude. You are always complaining to be dogpiled... but it's because you are not playing with diplo.

I have 4 neighbors, 2 of them contacted me in early game for a nap which i accepted. The 3rd one, i have only a small connection to him in the middle of swamps so it's not interesting for me nor for him to attack. Therefore the only remaining target is you. I have a lot of connections with your territories which are highly populated.

Believe me or not but i told Marignon maybe 5 to 8 turns ago, when we signed the nap, that i was going to attack you. So it's not the Midgard's attack who have made my mind. i admit it's not fair to be 2V1 while the power of the 3 nations are balanced, but i won't wait to see who's winning your war and see if there is something left to take.

Also ...

Since you've said i'm Always backdooring people, i guess you had in mind the other game named "slaughter".

On that one i have been exemplary... You were in war with Caelum but didn't start any big fight. I came with a big army and cut the road of your ennemy (So he couldn't grab some your lands) and we fought this war 1V1. Caelum withdrowed as soon as i came.
I didn't even try to make some dark alliance with him, I went alone against you. Again you were the only one with whom i had no diplomatic relation, and strategically the best choice to control a border of the map.

You should change your nick from Bullock to the back door man.

Yeah this one went trough my mind, but since i'm using diplo in dom3 game i thought it was inappropriate. So i picked Bullock.

[bbz]

LA Marignon doesnt know anything of any attack, Lets swarm Bogarus and revenge Pan's death.

(Just kidding) I was well aware of the plans of Bogarus to attack you about 6ish turns ago he told me.

P.s ghoul31 if you dont want to be dogpiled you need to work on your expansion, if you had expanded better you'd have had a bigger empire, then if you research and have a big army thats a deterrent for people to attack.
In this game you were in the last position( = the easiest target) in most of the graphs, so no wonder people just stroll over you. If you dont want to be dogpiled then build an army, Even if you have Nap-3 with your neighbors thats hardly enough to save you if you fall too much behind all of them. (becasue you wouldnt be able to have enough army when they attack you even if they wait the 3 turn period) And that is not to mention the research lead your opponents have over you(that means that some naughty spell is likely to tip the ballance in their favor.

[ghoul31]

I was well aware of the plans of Bogarus to attack you about 6ish turns ago he told me.


Instead of joining me and attacking them 2 on 2, which would have a been a fun and interesting war, you decide to break your NAP with me and attack me 3 on 1.

There isn't one person who plays dominions (except for me) that wants fun, competitive, interesting wars. Every single person just wants 3 on 1 ganks.

[bbz]

READ YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGES MORE OFTEN!! BEFORE BLAMING PEOPLE.I SENT YOU A MESSAGE DECLARING THE END OF OUR NAP-3 AGREEMENT AND SPECIFICALLY SAYING WHEN I AND YOU ARE FREE TO ATTACK EACH OTHER. I DID THAT ON TURN 16 AND I SPECIFICALLY CLARIFIED THAT ON TURN 18 YOU CAN ISSUE ATTACK ORDERS WHICH CAN THEN BE CARRIED OUT ON TURN 19. ALSO I WAS NICE ENOUGH AND TOLD YOU THAT IM NOT GONNA GANK UP ON YOU IF MANAGE TO TURN THE WAR AGAINST MIDGUARD SO THATS WHY I DIDNT WANT TO ISSUE AN ATTACK ORDER ON TURN 18. THEN I SAW THAT YOUR SITUATION IS HOPLESS(BEING ATTACKED BY 2 AND DECIDED THAT YOU CANT WIN SO I HAD TO ATTACK TO TAKE SOME PROVINCES) BEFORE BLAMING PEOPLE READ YOUR PRIVATE MESSAGES. THAT WAS THE WAY WE SIGNED THE NAP AND THAT WAS THE WAY I ENDED IT - VIA PM.NOT ONLY WAS I NICE ENOUGH TO WAIT UNTIL YOUR SITUATION GETS HOPELESS(not to mention that I didnt break my NAP) but then you blame me for you not checking your private messages!!!!

p.s ALSO IF I WANTED TO BREAK MY NAP I WOULD HAVE DONE SO ABOUT 6-7 TURNS AGO WHEN MIDGUARD STARTED ATTACKING YOU...

[bbz]

I was well aware of the plans of Bogarus to attack you about 6ish turns ago he told me.


Instead of joining me and attacking them 2 on 2, which would have a been a fun and interesting war, you decide to break your NAP with me and attack me 3 on 1.

There isn't one person who plays dominions (except for me) that wants fun, competitive, interesting wars. Every single person just wants 3 on 1 ganks.

There are so many things that are wrong in this statement.

First of all you are in a pile of ****, your performance has been sub par at most so even if I was crazy enough to join you, then I would have ended up fighting 2v1 war(you'd still die in 5-10ish turns). Starting a 2v1 war against the leading factions(Bogarus and Midguard) in the game(me being maybe third or forth out there) is more than stupid.So im not gonna continue commenting on that.
Also with some diplomacy you might have made me consider attacking one of them but ever since we signed the nap I didnt hear a word from you).

Second as I cleared in the previous post I did not break my Nap with you. I Never do that even though there have been situations where it would have helped me.
AND YES PEOPLE HAVE broken their naps towards me and they have dogpiled on me(I WAS FIGHTING A 2v 4 WAR IN MY LAST GAME WITH 2 poeple breaking their naps towards me, I killed 2 and then lost) BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT I DIDNT cry like a baby about it.

SO you wonder how was it a 2v4 game: diplomacy was the answer I managed to get a good ally and whith his help the game was nice enough.

Even now (at this very game) I'm helping one of the guys that is in the same trouble as you are.So accusing me of just joining the leaders and piling up on the weaker guys is plain wrong.Also I felt like helping that guy, because he was a lot more talkative than you were and we conducted a lot more diplomacy than your only response for the game
"I agree " to my nap-3 proposal.

Third. You joined a Vet-Intermediate, game. So being competitive is what you are expected to be. "wants fun, competitive, interesting wars". You can hardly use the words fun and competitive together(or at least by what I've seen from you)
Even if it was only you vs Midguard you would have lost about 5 turns later at most) judging by your situation at the moment.
You lost to me and bogarus about 100 gold a month(and 100 gold can hardly help you when you have your capital besieged which is the case at the moment).

I can also state that your definition of "fun" can hardly be called "competitive". I heard about a game where you were playing. And you refused to attack 2v1. against the leader of the game(leading almost 2 times the next closes in terms of the charts) Because it would be "dogpile". So eventually he won the game(because if you had as you said "dogpiled" on him then there was a chance that you might win the game, but instead you decided to forego this and let him snatch the win. That cannot be in any way classified as competitive behavior.

So if for whatever reason you want "fun" game. Where people are not allowed to attack someone who is at war. Then you are free to create a game yourself bearing those conditions and rules.
I however would not join such a game just because it is really imbalanced(A lot more than you'd think). The previous paragraph is only one of the cases which will be created in the game.
(fighting the leader of the game with empire 2 times as big as yours on your own is hardly fair).

The aforementioned game style would bring other implications such as: you just stay on enemy's capital(having conquered all of his lands)Ensuring that no one would attack you because it would be "dogpile". So im not gonna enter into detail about the implications of such game. But as I said all are free people and free to join such a game of yours. But its gonna be heck of a lot more unfair than a normal game.

[bbz]

The thing which I don't like here is that you are lazy enough not to check your private messages, lazy enough not to conduct proper diplomacy, and when people actually attack you you start moaning and blaming the guy that has done most for another player in the game. (not attacking signing a long term NAP with that player and sending him gold).

And yet again even though that player( and what im saying now is going to ruin my good position in the game but im gonna say it anyways because you got me annoyed with your BULL**** comments).So even though Agartha has been attacked by 2 from turn 10 onwards, and has received only some help from me(but not much). He's been doing a hell of a lot better than you have.(staying competitive on the research and army size charts).

[skymoon]

The 3rd one, i have only a small connection to him in the middle of swamps so it's not interesting for me nor for him to attack.


Hello from the swamp neighbor.....
Let's keep peace. :D

[ghoul31]

wow that was a whole lot of words to defend a 3 on 1 gank. I hope it made you feel better.

[bbz]

Can anyone forge the Earth Boots? PM me if you do and we can discuss a price.

[Psycho chick]

hi guys, I have a 7-days trip from today. Can I ask for a turn delay for 170 hours?

[bbz]

i personally am ok with it as long as other people are ok with it too.

[Jolly Roger]

Sure. That´s fine with me. Really good game so far.

Have a nice vacation !

Regards, KLaus

[Psycho chick]

Thanks guys. I already sent my turn 24 .2h file before I go to airport.
Enjoy the game.

[skymoon]

It's fine to me.

[Bullock]

Postponed 7D

Come back soon!

[bbz]

C'tis Midgard and Utgard are about to stale.

[TheHeatMiser]

slackers we had 7 days:D

[bbz]

I know...When there is delayed turn players should really aim to submit their own turn on time, no matter if there is a delay or not, this way they can avoid stales.

[Bullock]

Srsly what happened ?? How can we have 3 people missing their turn with a 7D postpone ...

[TheHeatMiser]

mscfish Last Activity: 02-07-13 10:44 PM
Psycho chick Last Activity: 02-10-13 05:52 AM
skymoon Last Activity: 02-10-13 06:00 AM

afraid to write what I'm thinking :down:

[Bullock]

Never seen 3 people leaving at once... especially on a nice game.
I ve added some extra time and sent a mail to them, hoping it will help.

[Bullock]

Well it seems it had no effect.
SO, For those who are still there (less ghoul who is barely dead) would you like to reset the game ?

[bbz]

Well i'd rather finish the game but its up to the rest.

(not sure if there is much point in that but we could wait for those guys reply for couple of days Midgard and Utgard are quite big)

[Jolly Roger]

I´d prefer to continue the game and take the provinces of these guys.

Additionally I´d vote for an official list of "quiters".

Klaus

[bbz]

Well We could set them to AI and then fight for whoever gets the most land out of it.
But that would drastically change the situation in the current game.
(im ok with every option:))

[TheHeatMiser]

Im up for either choice but lets not delay any longer because of this person.

[Jolly Roger]

Please wait for 24-48 hours before you continue, I´ve just sent a message to a group of very reliable players and asked them to substitute these quiters.
They´ll contact you.

Cheers, Klaus

[jimbojones1971]

Hey guys. Bullock, I'm keen to sub in and see what the go is. Thanks to Klaus for letting me know about the opportunity.

Somehow, I have never even HEARD of Midgard, so I'd be keen to give them a shot. Otherwise, either of C'tis or Jomon - all three of these will be new and novel for me :-)

[Tiavals]

I could play Jomo or C'tis.

[Bullock]

Excellent !
Send me your Mail by PM and i add u to the game.

[Bullock]

Jimbo is now owner of midgard.
OP updated

[mattyburn7]

If you need one more I'll do it.

[Jolly Roger]

Hi Matty, James and Juhani !

Thanks for your quick response and for replacing these quiters.

Cheers, Klaus

[Tiavals]

We'll see how long we last. :)

[Bullock]

Alright Ctis is for Tiavals & the last one for matty as soon as he send me his mail by mp.

Cheers & thx all for subbing

[mattyburn7]

Can anyone fill me in on the political situation. Does Utgard have any allies or enemies? We are a peace loving sort of folk.

[Tiavals]

Now that I am C'tis, all previous deals will be renegotiated. In case no renegotiation is made, the deal is nulled. So please contact me if you wish for a deal to remain, or to forge a new deal.

[Jolly Roger]

Gath signed a NAP -3 with Utgard

Utgard is at war with Agartha and TC

Assume Utgard was allied with C´tis

C´tis is at war with Agartha

Midgard is at war with Pangaea

Cheers, Klaus

[Tiavals]

Okay, I'll act accordingly.

[Bullock]

Every nation has his owner now if i m correct.

Thx to the newcomers, hope you will enjoy.

[TheHeatMiser]

No peace for Agartha it seems:cold:

[mattyburn7]

I also. We shall feast on Agarth and TC hearts tonight!

[Bullock]

I know i've been at the top of charts for some time and therefore look like the bad guy.But it's over for my ranking. Marignon is by far the 1rt, has now all best items, a huge army with awesome thugs, SC, several globals...

I suggest everyone to aim at this dangerous threat before it's too late if its not already.

[bbz]

Hey sorry could you turn quick host off for the current turn. I need to redo some things because I hastily submitted a turn and now I dont have time to fix it. Thanks.

[Bullock]

I'm the last one to submit. just pm me when u r done.

[bbz]

Hey Bullock I'm leaving tomorrow, as we talked. I'll try and submit a new turn by then. I'd appreciate if you could put the game on hold for a while if I don't have Internet. Im coming back on the 7th, I'll write down a message if I get internet that no change in host schedule is needed. (this thing counts for silent hill too)

[bbz]

Ok good news I've got internet so there is no need to halt the game:)

[Bullock]

lol i have switched both game timers 5 min ago

[bbz]

Hmm, sorry I'll have to ask you if you could delay the turn time to 96+ hours per turn, I most likely wouldnt take that long but the internet connection in the place where I'm staying is going to stop from tomorrow:S.... So, I'll have to check in the other stations to send in my turns.
(If you could leave the quickhost on, I'll send in turns whenever I can).

[bbz]

I have submitted the current turns for this game and the Silent Hill one, so you can play out this turn and then extend the next turn.

[mattyburn7]

Wow Bullock. I see what you mean about Marignon. For about 10 turns during the ruthless invasion of Bogarus I stopped looking at scores. I just looked now and Can't believe how far ahead Marignon has gotten. Its going to be tough.

[bbz]

Ok I managed to submit the current turn, we can continue on schedule.:)

[Bullock]

I'm down. If some1 want to take admin duties let me know. Otherwise i'll keep an eye on the game.

[Tiavals]

What are the conditions of winning? Last one standing? Compromise?

[Bullock]

Yeah both sounds good to me.

[bbz]

I'm ok with both conditions whichever you guys prefer

[Tiavals]

I'm ready to call Marignon the winner whenever everyone else is. That was quite an efficient invasion I must say. :D

[bbz]

thx, I was hoping it had such an effect on you:D

[mattyburn7]

I concur...His advantage is overwhelming.

[bbz]

I concur...His advantage is overwhelming.

well I got 250ish slave income,25ish soul contracts giving me +25 freespawn devis per turn,most of the artifacts(the nature ones for more freespawn)
3 Treelords for even more freespawn, soulstone of the wolves for even more freespann, +5 hidden gem income from items,
20% construction and enchantment sites, the hammer of the forge lord(those 12 gems rings of sorcery are kind of sweet)
And from next turn I'll have + 40(astral) or +80 (any other type)
gem income due to having 2 wishers on an alteration + 20% site.

So without sounding too confident I have to agree with that:)

[bbz]

But since late game is my favorite part of the game, I'd be more than happy to play out some random battles with people(as long as I don't have to keep up with the micro(since blood micro is getting quite hard)
(if people want to try their late game strategies with me I'd be happy to send my armies somewhere and fight some random battles with people without caring too much about doing everything perfect).

[jimbojones1971]

Wow, that is a crushing advantage dude.

I am ready to throw in the towel.

I had been hoping to dom kill TC, but that was an utter fail despite having something like 15 vanjarls with stone idols concealed in his territory and preaching AND blood saccing like crazy.

I did managed to crunch out 7 so-so SCs using Asynja's as the chasis, and was hoping to be able to (with the staff of storms and storm warriors) roll over the top of someone.

[jimbojones1971]

On second thoughts - would you be up for one last big battle, bbz? I wouldn't mind seeing how my battle plan actually unfolds. I'll need a few turns to get ready, though.

[bbz]

sure:)

[bbz]

I've asked to extend the turn to 60hrs per turn since the micro has become insane for the 36hrs(and in general 36hrs for turn 63 is quite quick). I will still submit turns as soon as possible just I don't want to make any major mistakes:))

[Bullock]

switched to 60h as requested.

[jimbojones1971]

Thanks Bullock and bbz. Which province will we have the ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny (aka Marignon beats the snot out of Midgard) in, bbz?

[bbz]

hmm I think I'll first storm C'tis castles, and then I'll gather what's left of my armies and we can have a showdown). That is of course if everyone else agrees that the game is over as we still haven't heard from Jolly Roger.

(if the game is officially declared over and C'tis doesn't feel like seeing the result of his defence) I can just move all my besieging armies south towards you.

[Tiavals]

C'tis here, I kinda want to see the sieges, but I can also go AI if you don't want to siege them.

I doubt anyone opposes the game being officially over. If they do, post here now or stay forever silent.

[bbz]

C'tis here, I kinda want to see the sieges, but I can also go AI if you don't want to siege them.

I doubt anyone opposes the game being officially over. If they do, post here now or stay forever silent.


OK then, I want to see the C'tis sieges too:D So we first finish with you(just the 2 major forts that you had - capital and that province with the 30ish mages in there. And then I'll gather up my armies (or at least some of them since they are soo many:D and then have a big fight with Midgard).

[Jolly Roger]

Hi Antoan,

in this case, I wanna fight one of your armies too, as I´m very fancy to see how your unholy followers deal with "The Ark" !!:D

Propose a province and a turn to fight a decisive battle for the rulership of Gath.

Take care,

Klaus

[bbz]

Ok I will get one of my armies ready for you too:)

[bbz]

Ok just as a suggestion I think the most comfortable provinces for us to have the battles are( 51,39,35,48) and 31 for Gath, and 63,60,59 for Midguard, so you guys can start moving troops there gathering armies, while I do the siege with C'tis. No need to do scripts just yet we can do it the turn before the battle.

Also one more question so that its fair. Do we include the strategical battle(like casting a teleporing earthquaker on top of armies) plus casting fires from afar and earth attacks and undead riders etc, coz If we do I think I'd have a huge advantage.

So I suggest it being just a normal army vs army battle with casting spells only on the battlefield.

[Jolly Roger]

That´s fine with me, I just wanna see how you beat my holy army supported by my pretender and THE ARK.

Cheers, Klaus

[jimbojones1971]

Ok just as a suggestion I think the most comfortable provinces for us to have the battles are ... 63,60,59 for Midguard ...

AND

So I suggest it being just a normal army vs army battle with casting spells only on the battlefield.

This all sounds great to me :-D

[bbz]

Wow, thats how I've gotten sloppy....
That was a great battle from you Tiavals. That Rigor mortis was soo painful.

[bbz]

Wow, thats how I've gotten sloppy....
That was a great battle from you Tiavals. That Rigor mortis was soo painful. And my own hordes of devils were used as a shield so that my 10-5 SC's couldn't get to the front line before passing out.

[bbz]

I did not scout your capital, and did nothing to guess what was inside and was just hoping to power through with all the 12 zmeys + 260 devils + 10s of Sc's and earthquake...

Serves me right. Loosing about 1000 gems this turn.(if not more) and 1000 ish blood slaves.

[Tiavals]

Hehe, the biggest problem was your own Tempest which prevented you from flying. ;)

I never knew rigor mortis was that good, though. It even worked quite well on the devils with their high MR.

[bbz]

ye... my own Tempest.... Not much I can say.... but your undead Sc's cut through my commanders like cutting through rye.
To be honest didn't even realize I had tempest there... I just hoarded SC's there. I was actually planning on flying around and surrounding your forces, but man that storm killed me.

[Tiavals]

It's easy to cut through SCs that don't fight back. :)

I'm guessing if all your devils and zmeys could have attacked, it would've been over in 2 rounds. :)

[Jolly Roger]

Gentlemen,

I´ll be on vacation from tomorrow to Tuesday 7th of May.

Please delay until I´m back on Wednesday 8th of May, GMT 11:00 am.

Thanks, Klaus

[bbz]

OK i'm done with Gath and C'tis last one on the line was Midgard, so please if you still want to have the big end game fight move your troops towards my big army I'll move mine north:) and we can decide on a battlefield:)

And I'd appreciate if we could declare the game finished after that because I don't have much free time lately:)

[Jolly Roger]

As BBZ already mentioned Gath surrendered to Marignon.

Well done mate.

Klaus

[Bullock]

If nobody argues the supremacy of Marignon in the next 24h i ll end the game and call BBZ winner !