New Game - Veni Vidi Vici EA CBM 1.94 - Newb/Intermediate UPLOAD PRETENDERS (11/11)

[mattyburn7]

This game is aimed at "intermediate" players or New players - I will leave it to you to define if you fit in this category.

IMPORTANT: I expect players to stick to the end and communicate if they need delays. Please don't quit because you lose 1 battle and then go AWOL.

Details are as follows:

Map: Not sure yet
Era: EA
Hosting: Llamaserver, 28h initially then increase as required. Extensions given upon request - PM me AND post in the thread
Mods: CBM 1.94
Players: At least eight - let's see how many we get
Settings: Default, but with score graphs off
Victory conditions: Victor upon player aggreement.

Avoid exploits, and don't be a douche.

Trades are binding, other diplomacy is not.


We already have signed up:
Mattyburn7 - Arco
Debaser - Vanheim
Lumix19 - Yomi
PsiSoldier - Lanka
Ghoul31 - Agartha
Peacekeeper - Kailasa
Ossa - C'tis
googly1 - Sauromatia
Bullock - tir na nog
Brain_Caster - Tien Chi
Welltimat - Abysia


Cheers!

[Lumix19]

Could I get Yomi please?

[mattyburn7]

Lumix in for Yomi!

[ghoul31]

Agartha

[mattyburn7]

Ghoul31 in win Agartha.

[Ossa]

Ctis would be nice

[Peacekeeper]

id like to jump in as Niflheim.

[Peacekeeper]

actually, id like to reconsider and enter with Kailasa.

[PsiSoldier]

I'll try out Lanka

[mattyburn7]

Once we see how many we get (I'm thinking of capping at 12) we can decide on a map. I"m thinking larger (18 to 20 provinces per nation) with balanced starting positions. I'm open to suggestions on map.

[googly1]

I would like to play Helheim please!

[mattyburn7]

k. We have 8. If nobody else asks to play by tomorrow morning I'll close entry and post game on llamaserver. If its 8 of us I'm thinking a map of about 160 provinces, primarily land. With balanced starting positions. If anyone has any suggestions let me know.
Cheers

[googly1]

If I could switch to Sauromatia that would be good. When do we submit pretenders?

[Bullock]

I'd like to join as tir na nog

[Brain_Caster]

I'd like to join as Tien Chi, if there's still room.

[mattyburn7]

Cool. I have you all in. I'll edit original post shortly. That puts us at 10 and we'll leave it there.
I just have to pick a map, then I'll set up game to upload pretenders. Should happen today.

[welltimat]

If i am not too late i would like to join as Abysia.

[mattyburn7]

ok. We are locked in now. 11 players total. Accepting no more. I just have to find a map. If anyone knows a map with approximately 220 provinces with balanced starting positions for 11 players, let me know.

[vargr]

Saw this and remembered that there's a version of GreeceStain on llamaserver with 9 + 1 and 11 + 1 fixed starts by Calahan. Wraps and has 181 + 18 provinces (too small?).

See: http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/Greece_Stain

and the link in llamaserver map browser (at the 9 + 1 version) for the clean image.

[Debaser8]

I think 20 provinces per player is too many. The micro when nations start getting eliminated and nations get big is going to be brutal. Twelve to fifteen seems better to me.

[mattyburn7]

I'll go with Vargr's suggestion then? Sounds like it is perfect for 11 players and it compromises (16.5 land and 1.5 water)

[mattyburn7]

Everyone. The game is on llamaserver. Please upload Pretenders.
Game is called veni_vidi_vici. It is using land of roaring rhinos 11 fixed.

[googly1]

Is the map called 'Realm of roaring rhinos'?

[googly1]

I downloaded this map but it doesnt seem to work. Can someone please send me a link to where they got it. Thanks.

[googly1]

So I just found a different version of the map at http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=47456
but I am not sure which version to download...

[Peacekeeper]

i wasnt sure either, just download them both.

[PsiSoldier]

Hey sorry it may be a little while before I can upload my pretender. I am working 15.5 hour days right now and don't have time to test the pretender I made for the game yet. But I should be free to test it out on Saturday and upload then. Right now I pretty much only have time to get home from work, eat, take a shower and go to bed.

[welltimat]

Could you please post a link to current map.
The Map "Realm of Roaring Rhinos" from Llamaserver either a) missing link b) missing on link с) incomplete (only tga file).

[Peacekeeper]

Could you please post a link to current map.
The Map "Realm of Roaring Rhinos" from Llamaserver either a) missing link b) missing on link с) incomplete (only tga file).

the reason theres only a tga file is so we cant just open it up and find the 11 starting locations.

youll find a version of the map you can get here as well as the 1 tga image youll need.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=47456

[mattyburn7]

Thanks Peacekeeper! Sorry I didn't respond earlier. Was bedtime here.

[mattyburn7]

Psi_Soldier: No problem. Thanks for letting us know.
Everyone: We have 8 of 11 in. Expect the game to start Saturday.
Cheers

[Peacekeeper]

so first turn is out. good luck everyone.

and of the 2 map files i indicated earlier, apparently both were wrong. heres the correct link for the .tga

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/97382000/roaringrhinos_v3_11Land%20%28Image%20Only%29.zip

[Bullock]

don t bother with the tga. It's just a renaming issue.

[mattyburn7]

I got some information from the creator of the map that renaming may cause some problems. To play it safe it would be best to download from the link that Peacekeeper posted.

Cheers!

[Debaser8]

Googly can't send you messages on the Shrapnel Forums. Not sure if this is on purpose or not.

[PsiSoldier]

I'm going to need an extension for this turn. I'm at work now and have to go straight to school when I get off in 5 hours and when I get out of school I have to eat and sleep and then have to go back to work at 2am.. wont have any time to look at the turn until around 11am eastern tomorrow

[mattyburn7]

k. I added a 36h extension for this turn (takes it to about 10 PM Eastern tomorrow). Let me know if you need more time.

[PsiSoldier]

Actually I got out from work a few minutes early and did a rushed turn. Probably not the most well thought out turn but its done and in. Hopefully all is good.

P.s. That should have been more like a 6 or 10 hour extension. as 36 hours added a full 36 hours to the clock and not changing the clock from 24 to 36..

Oh well hopefully no one gets lazy and takes advantage of it.

[mattyburn7]

I know...My mental arithmetic was off...Pretty sad for a math and numbers guy.

[PsiSoldier]

Well still two people to submit turns. I'm hoping one of them waits until about noon today to submit so I have a chance to do my turn a little better. I literally did it in about 5 minutes so It would be nice to have a chance to examine it a little more closely before it hosts. But either way its all good.

[mattyburn7]

I can turn auto-host off if you would like?

[PsiSoldier]

Yes that would be nice if you can. Just turn it back on around 12 eastern and all should be good. I know I made one tactical error in my haste that could be serious

[Peacekeeper]

so im waiting to turn this in still?

[mattyburn7]

I turned off quick host so we should be ok...but if you want to wait another 4 hours to be safe peacekeeper that would be helpful. Thanks for checking and holding off on submitting!

[PsiSoldier]

Ok.. My revised turn is in. Good to go!

[mattyburn7]

Question: We have been at 28 hours the entire time and we are now at Turn 33. Is there a feeling that we should bump the time to 36 hours or leave as-is?

[Bullock]

I've been slow lately but should be back on track at the end of the week.

I don't mind about the timer both length fit me

[mattyburn7]

k. I'll keep at 28 for now. Thanks!

[mattyburn7]

Saw a reference to VVV in another post and though I would ramble a bit.
This game has been a lot of fun and at this point it doesn't appear to have 1 clear-cut front runner though several people are certainly looking strong.

Everyone does appear to be in at least 1 war at this point.

One point I'll make since myself and some others have stealthy units is that if I have a NAP with someone, I'll only send scouts into their territory but will not send in stealthy mages, spies, assassins, etc. If anyone else is playing by different set of rules, that is cool, just let me know so I can do the same :). Hope everyone else is enjoying!

[Bullock]

One point I'll make since myself and some others have stealthy units is that if I have a NAP with someone, I'll only send scouts into their territory but will not send in stealthy mages, spies, assassins, etc. If anyone else is playing by different set of rules, that is cool, just let me know so I can do the same :). Hope everyone else is enjoying!

I do send any kind of stealthy units. However i refrain myself to take global, like the mother oak i was going to cast the turn after you !

[mattyburn7]

Good to know. Thanks! Phew. That was close then. I'm glad to Got the global up when I did!

[mattyburn7]

I delayed hosting 8 hours for this turn.

[Bullock]

I'm offering 80F gems for 10 rings of fire.
Can also trade A/N/E craft for the rings.

TNN

[mattyburn7]

Bullock,

I'll take you up on that offer. send me the gems and then I can forge. I'll try to forge a couple this turn for you.

[Bullock]

Sry dude some1 has been faster.

Deal is already made

[mattyburn7]

Did anyone receive a bag of winds from Arco? If so, please send back...it was a mistake. I seem to have misplaced one :). Methinks I destroyed it by accident.

In other news, the "Head of Inventory" for Arco just lost his head!

[Debaser8]

Bad quartermaster.

[mattyburn7]

Looks like first player goes down in C'tis...Thanks very much for hanging in until the end Ossa!!

Weltimat: Great battle in Robber Home. That was close run thing!

[Bullock]

Yeah sry for the slow agony ossa ;)

[Debaser8]

I'm out also. That game was brutal for me. Still had it's fun parts.

Vanheim

[Bullock]

I'm out also. That game was brutal for me. Still had it's fun parts.

Vanheim

Many thanks for keeping Agartha busy 'til the end.

i hope to see u soon in one of my game :)

[mattyburn7]

Thanks Debaser. Hope to see you soon.

Abysia: well done with the assassins. I was wondering when they would show up. The hit the perfect mages too!

[Bullock]

I'm buying A/N/S gems 30Gold each or trading for D/F/E gems 1:1

[Bullock]

I'll be out for a short 4 days trip.
I might be able to take one or maybe 2 turns. So instead of a delaying the next turn can you switch turn timer to something like 100h (in case i can't play a single turn) until the 2nd of June ? I will send the current one soon.

[mattyburn7]

Will do. I'll make the switch after this turn hosts

[Bullock]

It seems you have vanquished the abysia's moral... Too bad we have so many leavers in a game tagged "high commitment"...

Anyway it would be nice to find a sub for him and maybe turn the 2 other leavers AI while i'm slowing the game with my trip.

[mattyburn7]

K. Game temporarily set to 100 hours for Bullock.

I agree. I will try to find a sub for Abysia or have him go AI. He's staled 2 turns in a row. Likewise we'll try to turn Sauro AI.

Hats off to Ossa, Debaser and PsiSoldier for fighting hard when they were in deep trouble.

Peacemaker, Weltimat, Googly: That's disappointing that you all just bail like that. Maybe you should stick to single player if you don't know how to keep a commitment.

[Bullock]

I managed to send my turn just before leaving.

[mattyburn7]

Ok. Revenant2 is going to take sauromatia to AI.

Ossa is going to take over Abysia. I know he had played C'tis earlier, but I don't think that will be a problem. If anyone has an issue let me know though.

Thanks!

[Ossa]

Actually I forgot about this game ages ago. And I dont think I'll keep Abyssia alive for long with all the stuff Arco is throwing at me.

[chelubey]

Its impossible to estimate situation from outside without graphs.
If Sauromatia is in some desperate/quite bad position without chances to recover (falling to enemies, for instance), - I can sub in.

[Bullock]

He's already AI. But thanks for offering.

Btw i'm back, thanks for delaying.

[Brain_Caster]

Could the admin increase the hosting interval to 1 week until I can contact you again, please?

We currently have a slight flooding problem here in Passau, south-eastern Germany, and there is a chance that in about 12 hours I'll be able to take a bath in my living room. Not sure yet how high the water will rise, but currently it seems like that's a possibility. Chances are my internet connection will be... compromised... by that point.


If I'm lucky, the water won't actually rise that high, and I'll send in my next turn as usual. If not, then you'll hear from me as soon as I have dry feet again.

[Bullock]

Sorry to hear that.
I hope your feet & internet will stay dry...

Good luck

[mattyburn7]

Brain_caster. Take as much time as you need. I'll set the delay and will make sure you don't stale. Hope you have flotation devices!! Seriously though. Take care and stay safe.

[Bullock]

I just read an article saying that Passau has beaten, this night, his worst flooding record. And the situation doesn't seem to get any better.

Just a thought for our poor mate.

[mattyburn7]

Thanks for sharing. What a tough experience for the folks there.

[mattyburn7]

Test post

[Brain_Caster]

Guys, thank you all for your patience, but it might be better if you just find a substitute player for me. While I do have internet here right now, it turns out that it's not particularly reliable. I have no idea when I'll be online the next time and how long it will last. What I do know is that it's highly probable that this unpredictable state of affairs will continue for at least 2-3 weeks, probably more.

It was a lot of fun. I hope you all continue to enjoy the game.

[mattyburn7]

Cheers Mate, Sorry to hear that. Most importantly though I hope you get things in order soon. I can't imagine the damage you had. PM me when things get better and I'll chat with you about some other games.

[mattyburn7]

Everyone else: I'll put game on hold until I find a sub. I have messages out to a couple of players. If I don't get anyone there I'll post a message on the boards.

[mattyburn7]

Everyone: I have a sub for TC however they would like the hosting bumped up to 72 hours. I was going to move to 36 anyway. Does anyone have an issue with going to 72? I am fine with it. If you are concerned about 72 let me know by end of day otherwise I'll change.
Thanks!

[Bullock]

Can we have something intermediate like 50h?

If i'm the only one bothered with the 72h timer, i'm fine going with it.

[mattyburn7]

I'll certainly ask.

[KeithZ]

Hi, everyone.

I'm the one who's interested to take TC. If 72hr is too long, can we run at 60hr?

Actually I was expecting a last standing nation when asking matty. But soon I found it would be a quite time consuming job after I checked the turn. Though it's not a very big nation, the TC player did pretty good job, every thing is well organized. I need more time because I don't want to screw it up. But I still have work to do in reallife, I don't want to be pushed by my games either.

[ghoul31]

I think 72hrs is fine because we are getting into the late game

[mattyburn7]

ok. 72 hours it is...and KeithZ is in...I know the first turn is the toughest so take as much time as you need.
Good Luck everyone!

[KeithZ]

ok. 72 hours it is...and KeithZ is in...I know the first turn is the toughest so take as much time as you need.
Good Luck everyone!

Thanks, I do need some time for the first turn.
I think I shall be able to submit it this Saturday.

[Bullock]

........... i think i'm victim of an UGLY bug !!!
For those who saw the fight i've just made my first true victory against Agartha. But wtf ! 90% of my commanders are feeble minded ??? Can some1 tell me what happened ?? Ghoul did you do something i don't know ?

i have only 2 cap only mage left in the army not feeble minded ... and like 80% of my thug are out ... srsly what a joke if its a bug...

[mattyburn7]

I didn't see the fight. Was it just the mages in the one fight...or all mages across all your provinces? Might want to post on main board too. Wish I had seen the fight so I could maybe offer more insight.

[ghoul31]

It was a long fight. Maybe casting that many spells destroys your brain.


Just a guess.

[Bullock]

I went back to the last turn of the fight and none were feebleminded.

Even the caster with bow (aim + fire) are feeble minded
Even my prophet (who is no mage) is feeble minded.

I'm wondering if it's a bug with strand of arcane power (but my report is clean)

[mattyburn7]

I know I tried a reverse communion once in another game but did nothing to control fatigue and a large majority of the mages came down with afflictions, some of which were feeble-minded. 90% seems high though.

[Bullock]

Well i guess no one as the answer for such an apocalypse for the mind of my mages.

I will try to find an answer on invision or mirc, show the turn to some vets.

[mattyburn7]

Yea. I was wondering about strands also...but figured a lot of those were non-astral. Good luck. I'd loan you a couple of priestesses to heal them back if I could.

[Bullock]

Ok i have the answer. It is the side effect of unraveling ... costly lesson.

[Bullock]

I'd like to rent the chalice if some1 has it :)

I pay well lol

[mattyburn7]

I would if I could mate! Good to know it was unravelling. Thanks for passing along.

[Bullock]

I know some1 has the Chalice. Again i'm willing to pay something to rent it few turns, even to an enemy. Otherwise i'll wish it in few turns.

TNN

[ghoul31]

I didn't know that solar brilliance cancels out darkness

[Bullock]

That's the magic side of Dom3 your are always learning new stuff :)

[mattyburn7]

Llamaserver has upgraded to 3.29 so we all should also.

[Lumix19]

Sorry to everybody for staling, I wasn't watching the time properly and it got away from me.

[mattyburn7]

Psi_Soldier: Are you still in this one? I noticed you staled twice? Its not creating any issues since you are not at war with anyone, just want to make sure you are still in it? Also I sent you my item, when you get back you can send me your stuff to complete the trade.

[Bullock]

Well i guess it would be nice to look for a sub, he has definitely left us.

[mattyburn7]

I sent him a PM. I'll post a request on both boards tonight for a sub. My vote though is we keeping playing and not delay since he is not at war and is still recovering from being invaded earlier.

[Bullock]

Yeah good call.

[mattyburn7]

Everyone: OSSA would like to sub for Lanka. Ossa has already played C'Tis and Abysia. I wanted to make sure everyone was ok with him taking over a third nation. I'm ok with it. If I don't hear any objections by tomorrow mid-day I'll make the switch.

[mattyburn7]

k. Ossa is playing Lanka now.

[Ossa]

Yep. Hi *again* ;)

[mattyburn7]

I wonder if this is a Dominions record for playing different nations in 1 game!

[Bullock]

Srsly Arco how did u manage to turn everybody against me while you have 90% of the SC of the game and first in all charts ??

Yomi told me he was doing that for the good of his nation lol...

I guess you have won the diplo war ! congratz
I'm willing to concede now to avoid a war who would take ages to end.

[mattyburn7]

I definitely have to try extra hard at diplomacy given my other deficiencies. It's completely up to everyone else what we do. I do acknowledge I am first in all except income, but on flip side tir na is not far behind in thie categories. Also I have been worried about a bunch of artifacts as well as what you have bee doing with your gems if not spending on SC.

In any event I am in it for fun some have no problems which way we go in this game.

[Bullock]

Seems nobody is against your sacrament. Actually Only Yomi has the size to protest i guess. So maybe PM him and end this ?

[mattyburn7]

I'm going to. I'm on vacation at moment so just pausing game til I get back this weekend

[mattyburn7]

I am going to PM Yomi about this as well as he is in the most competitive position. Tir Na is conceding the game. We have 3 options at this point:
1) Everyone wants to continue and we ask Tir Na to continue
2) Everyone wants to continue and we find a sub for Tir Na
3) Game is conceded to Arco.

Please let me know your thoughts.

[ghoul31]

I think you should find a sub

[Lumix19]

I'm quite happy to do any of the options so I'll go with whatever the majority decides.

[mattyburn7]

Bullock: I've heard from several ppl. And the consensus is to continue...at least for awhile. I understand and respect your thoughts. Are you willing to maybe do 10 to 15 more turns and then we can re-evaluate? Or would you prefer we get a sub?

[Bullock]

I've asked ossa if he is interested to sub.
Otherwise i can play until we find one.

But i don't see the point. Knowing i can't win i will send everything against Yomi who is already in no position to win. Which make your victory 100% certain.

[mattyburn7]

Sounds good. I'll post for a sub. Thanks Bullock.

[Bullock]

Ossa doesn't seem interested.
plz set the timer to a week until a sub is found.

[mattyburn7]

I may have a sub for Tir Na. I will let everyone know hopefully soon.

[mattyburn7]

Trumelunki is going to sub for tir na. He is on desura and here also I believe.

Bullock: sorry for the way it turned out...looking forward to future games with you. ..probably in Dom4. I am going to switch emails now so no need to submit turn for this round.

[Trumelunki]

Yes I will take over Tir na n'Og. Sorry, it will prob take a little while for me to figure out what is going. Meanwhile - feel free to send me pointless diplomatic messages.

[Bullock]

Bullock: sorry for the way it turned out...looking forward to future games with you. ..probably in Dom4. I am going to switch emails now so no need to submit turn for this round.

Don't be, i'm glad you can continue this game. Gratz again.
And thks for the subbin Trumelunki

[Trumelunki]

Hey,

Could I get a little more time? One day should be enough. This feels quite a lot :)

[mattyburn7]

Yep...I did extend 12 hours earlier...I"ll add another day. Also after this turn I"m going to go back to 72 hours, but feel free to ask for extensions as needed

[Trumelunki]

Well, I submitted my turn. Frankly I am not sure that I have any idea what is going on, but at least this will be fun.

For all other players still in competition (except mattyburn). I am not an experienced player, so if you want to have a chance of winning, it's time to attack Arcoscephale NOW! I will make peace with anybody who declares war on Arcoscephale.

I have a bad feeling that I might not hold for very long. Which means that Arcoscephale will win easy...

[ghoul31]

I guess this game is over

Yomi and Tien chi staled.

And everyone else is about dead.

[mattyburn7]

Let's wait and see what TC and Yomi say. They usually push it close to the deadline and I was away all day so was unable to push back the turn. Let's see what happens with this one. Tir Na has some punch left. I am raiding, but not really doing anything to his armies and he has at least 2 if not 3 large armies staring at me.

[Lumix19]

Sorry for staling, for some reason I didn't get the 12 hours reminder and I wasn't watching the time properly.

[mattyburn7]

No worries mate!

[Trumelunki]

Yea, I finally managed to win one big fight against Arcoscephale!

Too bad I lost my whole army too - and that was my last army anyways.

Do we still keep playing? I am ready to concede. Seems there is pretty much nothing I can do anymore.

[mattyburn7]

That was a fun fight!. Lots of soldiers died though most of your SC's and most of my SC's survived.

I think everyone else is still enjoying the game. Agartha and Lanka seem to have a good fight going with Yomi. TC and I are still battling and you lost most of your troops, but still have some nasty SC's left in the fight.

Definetly up to you, but its still not going to be easy to finish off that last army of yours.

[Trumelunki]

Hmm. I think I did what was asked and tried to resist you. I failed which was only to be expected. It was a good experience, but it's over now.

As Agartha, Lanka and Yomi are fighting each other instead of you, they are obviously not playing for the win. I am not really interested in the cleaning up phase.

I resign. This is the correct time.

(I'll put myself to AI if you want to continue just for fun)

[mattyburn7]

I'm not holding a gun to your head. I merely pointed out that you have a lot of firepower left. Do what you want.

[mattyburn7]

TC,Yomi, Agartha, Lanka, Its up to you what we do next. Find a sub, let him go AI or call the game. I appreciate all of you sticking through it. Especially Agartha who was almost doomed and Ossa who subbed 3 times. Its a fun game for me win, lose or draw.

[ghoul31]

Yomi just wants to attack me for some reason instead of arco

So lets just end it.

[mattyburn7]

k...Game will end unless I hear otherwise from the other players. I think its time for me to get out of the dominions anyway...so much griping.

[ghoul31]

Yomi has agreed to attack arco

So lets all attack arco and see what happens

[mattyburn7]

Ok. Questions for several players:
Tir na: are you in or out in light of this?
Agartha: I believe we have a nap1. Does that mean we cannot script attack orders until next turn?
Yomi: are we nap5 or nap6?
Lanka: I will pm you. I am hoping you will stay my ally based on past history.

[ghoul31]

ok i won't attack this turn

[mattyburn7]

k. Same here, but next turn best of luck to both of us :)

[Trumelunki]

Aah. I feel bad as my 'Ultimatum' has actually awakened the other players. Using ultimatum is a kind of a cheap trick after all..

If you want to try to overcome Arcoscephale (though I am pretty sure it's too late :) I am willing to continue. I will do my best to resist Arcoscephale for a few more turns.

[ghoul31]

Aah. I feel bad as my 'Ultimatum' has actually awakened the other players. Using ultimatum is a kind of a cheap trick after all..


You could have just sent private messages asking people to help.

[ghoul31]

Lanka: I will pm you. I am hoping you will stay my ally based on past history.

You already have more provinces than everyone else combined.

You don't need any allies.

[mattyburn7]

I think I am allowed to ask when I let the nation survive awhile back. Do I need your permission to go to the bathroom to? :)

[Lumix19]

Ok. Questions for several players:
Tir na: are you in or out in light of this?
Agartha: I believe we have a nap1. Does that mean we cannot script attack orders until next turn?
Yomi: are we nap5 or nap6?
Lanka: I will pm you. I am hoping you will stay my ally based on past history.

Sorry for not replying to this. I believe we are NAP-5 but my memory isn't great.

[ghoul31]

forget the nap, this game will be over in 5 turns

just attack now

[mattyburn7]

I disagree. TC and tir na are still putting up good fights alone. Most games I have seen where everyone gangs up the person in front is far in front of all other players combined. I am about even with all others combined. Nap was made for a reason. The next time I am in a game with you ghoul I will remember your attitude towards naps

[ghoul31]

95 provinces to 86 isn't even

And in 5 turns it will be more like 115 to 66

But whatever dude.

[mattyburn7]

Very good math, but its close like all the other stats.

Whatever dude and your attitude in general tells me all I need to know about you dude.

[ghoul31]

And your attitude tells me about you
you only want to play when you have a 2 to 1 advantage

And if you have less than a 2 to 1 advantage you throw a fit.

[mattyburn7]

I would disagree. I only ask to honor naps. If you don't want to then fine there are many things more important for my time then you ghoul

[mattyburn7]

Anyone that wants to attack me may attack me. I am absolving everyone from naps. I, however will not attack until the nap expires.

There ghoul. You are proved wrong. I have read your posts on other boards. You are annoying.

[mattyburn7]

My apologies to the rest of the players for losing my cool and lowering myself to ghoul's venomous level.

I believe I have made my point. I never expressed an issue with others declaring war. I have merely asked folks to honor naps and I have still worked diplomacy. Why? Compare score graphs of this game to evil_clowns. That is a game where the winner is truly in a dominating position. The difference between this game and others? All 5 opponents have formidable armies. Even tir na has somewhere on the order of 15 SCs. I don't envision anywhere close to 115 provinces in 5 turns. But then, some people like to just spew venom and nonsense.

My apologies to the honorable nations of tir na, TC, Yomi, Lanka.

[KeithZ]

I have no doubt that Arco is going to win this game, it won't help even if everyone start to attack him now. I'd rather keep going with the nap they signed before and let's just finish this game honorably.

[mattyburn7]

Reminder for Yomi, Lanka and TC that turn is due today in about 5 hours. Thanks!

[mattyburn7]

Everyone. I have delayed hosting for 48 hours. Yomi is having some PC issues. Cheers.

[Lumix19]

I just sent in my turn. Thanks to everyone for being patient and sorry for the wait.

[mattyburn7]

TC: is all ok? I gave another 24 hours.

[mattyburn7]

I delayed turn yesterday 24 hours. Let me know if you need more time.
THanks!

[mattyburn7]

Any of you interested in subbing for a game on Desura? It would be for MA Pythium. Its a good competitive game. Down to about 5 nations and I would say all have a chance to win. Pythium probably in 2nd at this point. PM me if interested and I'll provide more detail.

[ghoul31]

My cable is out because of a storm.

can you add a few days to the timer?

[mattyburn7]

Will do. Llamaserver is down right now, but I'll add soon as its back up and I'll keep an eye out.

[mattyburn7]

ok. I postponed 72 hours...will extend if I see turn is not in yet.

Let me know if anyone is interested in that sub. Cheers

[Trumelunki]

Lost my last troops this turn so I am going AI. Good luck to all.

[mattyburn7]

Thanks for playing Mate! See you in other games I hope.

[ghoul31]

I think we can end this game now

[mattyburn7]

TC, Yomi, Lanka. Do you concur?

[KeithZ]

I agree, Congrats matty.

[Lumix19]

I also agree. Good game everyone and congratulations to Arcoscephale.