winSPMBT fans: who are you?

[Simicro]

Hi all,

I thought it would be interesting to know our profile as a community.

Due to the limitation of the poll I had to make some compromises.

Regarding the timescale for "I've been playing Steel Panthers since..." I divided the choices between the pre/post winSPWW2/winSPMBT era by Camo Workshop.

Please note that this poll is actually a combination of several "questions" so you are invited to make multiple choices.

[whdonnelly]

It helps when you log in first lol. Thanks for the quick reply :)

[Simicro]

To answer the poll, normally you should see "boxes" to tick.

The statistics and graph are calculated and drawn automatically by clicking on "View Results".

[halstein]

The last question "Military Background", what does it mean. I didn't tick, but I have done national service.

Halstein.

[Simicro]

Thank you for your vote Halstein.

You are right, the last question is not clear.

However I will not edit the poll because there is a risk of resetting the results.

What I meant is: Are you a military professional? Or are you in the military industry?

[Mobhack]

The last question "Military Background", what does it mean. I didn't tick, but I have done national service.

Halstein.

I think that having spent at least some time in the "proper" .mil environment counts. So regulars, national service, Territorials or National Guard etc - where you have sworn the local military oath and hence "taken the shilling".

The school combined cadet force/ Sea Cadets/Army cadets probably does not really count though. You are not subject to the military there (ie not taken the shilling) - even the teachers who have had officer training are on a special reduced CCF type commission here in the UK (AFAIR).

cheers
Andy

[Pats]

The last question "Military Background", what does it mean. I didn't tick, but I have done national service.

Halstein.

I think that having spent at least some time in the "proper" .mil environment counts. So regulars, national service, Territorials or National Guard etc - where you have sworn the local military oath and hence "taken the shilling".

The school combined cadet force/ Sea Cadets/Army cadets probably does not really count though. You are not subject to the military there (ie not taken the shilling) - even the teachers who have had officer training are on a special reduced CCF type commission here in the UK (AFAIR).

cheers
Andy

If I follow this definition I should have had ticked the last question, but thinking more of a professional carrer I didn't
(I served 350 days in the Swiss army...lol )

[DRG]

Probably the simpest definition of "military service" would be did they give you a uniform and live rounds to practice with. If yes then you have military service. It's not the same as ten years in the SAS but it's still service

[halstein]

I did get both a uniform, and live rounds that we fired. But mostly I did order plane-tickets and loaded and unloaded a couple of C-130. Maybe I should have ticked military background.:)

Halstein

[Aeraaa]

I did get both a uniform, and live rounds that we fired. But mostly I did order plane-tickets and loaded and unloaded a couple of C-130. Maybe I should have ticked military background.:)

Halstein

Well I dont think the specifics of the job matter regarding the question "have you served or not?".

It would be interesting to see how many conscripts we have in the forum (count one more! :D )

[FASTBOAT TOUGH]

I like voting! It's all that Civic Duty and defend the Constitution train of thought. ;)

Regards,
Pat

[EJ]

Yes, I serve currently in the US Army. I served in Desert Storm 90-91. Did one tour in Afghanistan 2011-12. Scheduled to go back to Afghanistan in May 2014.

[mkr8683]

Infantryman in the US Army. Five years active duty (thank you, Stop-Loss), two reserves. Came in as an E-nothing private in '04, ETS'ed as a sergeant in '11. Stayed in 4ID my whole active duty stint. Stayed a dismount through my first tour in Baghdad, then they made me a M2A3 gunner, and as soon as I was done training volunteered for a PSD company. Ferried the brass around town my second tour, again in Baghdad. Got out May of '09, went to the police academy, been a cop since January '10. Life is good, but it will be even better if I can ever get picked up by the refinery :smirk:

[Simicro]

Thank you all for your relatively important participation :)

At this time, I would sum up the results this way:

The winSPMBT fan is a:

- mature guy (30+ years old): 85%
- hardcore wargamer who has been playing Steel Panthers since its inception (1995-2004 era): 78%

He usually owns the CD Version (71%) and plays WinSPWW2 too (75%).

Please keep voting to confirm (or not) this trend.

[DRG]

Well, what it tells you is 28 people told you how old they are and 31 told you how long they have been playing and that ( at this time ) 10x more people have viewed the thread than filled it out. We know how many people have bought the game and how many have downloaded it and I only DREAM that 71-74%. of the people who play it, owned it.:)

Don

[Simicro]

Yes Don, you are right to point this out.

Of course this is only a poll with its limitations, especially on a forum ie:
- not significative (I know that 28 voters are far not enough to be representative of a population)
- not necessarily reflecting the reality

Oh well, maybe I should have not run this poll.

[gingertanker]

I am 26.

People on the forums are certainly more involved in the game than people who are not, so it's no surprise there is a high percentage of people who bought the game in the poll...
I did not buy the game, honestly when I started playing I was in the army and had very little cash for pleasures, and now I am married and struggling with paying rent and for food. But one day...One day I promise I will give you guys the thanks you deserve for all this amazing work.

I only started playing a few years ago, and accelerated my time spent playing since I was conscripted and even more so after my discharge- which brings me to my military background(some of you probably know most of this):
I was conscripted in 8/2005 into the IDF, spent a year in the Signals Corps and than asked to transfer to the Armored Corps. Was sent straight to tank commander training after finishing my training as a tank gunner. The rest of my service was spent as a squad leader/tank commander in the 460th Brigade a.k.a armor school as well as a tank commander inthe 77th Battalion/7th Brigade. As a result of my strange "career" path I am qualified as a Field Radio Operator, Squad Leader(support units), Tank Driver, Tank Gunner, and Tank Commander. All my tank training and operations were on the Merkava Mk2b. After my discharge from regular service I was somehow and against my wishes sent back to the signals corps for reserve service, and currently my official posting is as Platoon Sgt for Signals platoon of a reserve tank battalion. My rank is Sgt 1st Class, but don't be too impressed as the IDF gives this rank to most guys eventually(in reserves). I did get mine very quickly however(I think there was some computer error).

[glaude1955]

Hello,

I'm 58, I am retired and I play Spww2 since the French magazine Cyberstratège (sadly defunct) presented the mod that needed to have the original game SP2 or SP3.
I also tried Spw@w but I prefer Winspww2.
I play more Winspww2 than WinSPMBT because I prefer the period of the Second World War.
I have the free versions of these games.
I appreciate the follow-up of these mods, pledge their perenity.

Have fun with it.

Yves

Bonjour,

J'ai 58 ans, je suis retraité et je joue à Spww2 depuis que la revue française Cyberstratège (hélas disparue) a présenté le mod qui nécessitait de posséder le jeu original SP2 ou SP3.
J'ai également essayé Spw@w mais je préfère Winspww2.
Je joue plus à Winspww2 qu'à Winspmbt car je préfère la période de la seconde guerre mondiale.
Je dispose des versions gratuites de ces jeux.
J'apprécie le suivi de ces mods, gage de leur pérénité.

Bon jeu à tous.

[Aeraaa]

and against my wishes

Story of every conscript's life actually brother. Your own wish is insignificant most of the time.

[DRG]

Yes Don, you are right to point this out.

Of course this is only a poll with its limitations, especially on a forum ie:
- not significative (I know that 28 voters are far not enough to be representative of a population)
- not necessarily reflecting the reality

Oh well, maybe I should have not run this poll.


No....... it's always interesting to see who is playing the game but it must be taken into account that the only people who fill things like this out are the ones that bother to take the time and the vast majority who log on can't be bothered which skews the results.


Don

[Suhiir]

No....... it's always interesting to see who is playing the game but it must be taken into account that the only people who fill things like this out are the ones that bother to take the time and the vast majority who log on can't be bothered which skews the results.

Don

That and the fact that a large majority of players only log on to get patches and never read the forums.

[gingertanker]

and against my wishes

Story of every conscript's life actually brother. Your own wish is insignificant most of the time.

Meh. I don't take offense to my conscription. And the army is not a democracy. When they told me I am going to be in a signals platoon in reserves, I explained why I don't want to. The Btn CO told me he has many tank commanders and not a single Signals Sgt with real field experience in combat units. At that point all you can do is salute and do as told. Part of being a soldier is eating s*** and smiling.

[wulfir]

I was a conscript. :)

Swedish army - recruit training mid 90s at what was then Lv7 and MekB19 - two training formations that "produced" wartime units for the defence of northern Sweden. I was a medic, RBS90 SAM Company.

[gingertanker]

BTW, I was thinking about this thread and just wanted to add-
The best thing that I can say about winSPMBT, is that when i was a tank commander I several times had an urge to give CDs with the game to my officers. It is -that- good. Its one of the few games I play that have to do with warfare and don't make me giggle and shout at the screen "that's not how it works". because it is how it works, more or less. I think that having the small military experience that I have makes this game even more enjoyable. I think that says alot for the basic code and even more for all the work done over the years.

[troopie]

National Service, South Africa, early-mid 1970s. Ran war aid into Rhodesia and was in several minor infantry dust-ups. Later was on the border between SWA and Zambia. Missed the big flare-ups of the 70s and 80s, had finished my service by then.

In my experience, war is mostly boring.

troopie

[Aeraaa]

BTW, I was thinking about this thread and just wanted to add-
The best thing that I can say about winSPMBT, is that when i was a tank commander I several times had an urge to give CDs with the game to my officers. It is -that- good. Its one of the few games I play that have to do with warfare and don't make me giggle and shout at the screen "that's not how it works". because it is how it works, more or less. I think that having the small military experience that I have makes this game even more enjoyable. I think that says alot for the basic code and even more for all the work done over the years.

I think the strength of the game is that while it takes a lot of stuff into consideration, the fact that it's an old school turned based strategy, gives a lot of food into imagination, something that is negated with the more modern games that are visually appealing, but not that realistic.

[Taskforce]

I've "only" done my military service and afterwards been a volunteer within the Swedish armed forces.

What I love about the game is that it leaves a lot of room for your imagination and isn't angled so that the "good guys" have the better equipment because they won the Cold war or something like that. I also like the fact that it (and SPWW2 for that matter) is open for the users to partly modify the game the way they want to and thus improve the game. Also, since I'm a parent, it is good to know that you always can push the "Save" button when you have to interupt the game and then simply continue where you left it. In a online game that isn't possible.

Cheers, Taskforce

[gingertanker]

I think the strength of the game is that while it takes a lot of stuff into consideration, the fact that it's an old school turned based strategy, gives a lot of food into imagination, something that is negated with the more modern games that are visually appealing, but not that realistic.

Yes.

Also I think that while playing this game I have learned more about AFVs and military history than some people will learn all their lives. And I had a good amount of knowledge prior to this. When I play scenarios I very often top and save to go online and find details of the real battle behind them. When I run into a particularly good piece of kit I go to research it. Heck, doing the Israeli OOB thing taught me more in 2 weeks about Israeli Patton and Centurion Variants than I learnt in dozens of visits to Latrun and hours spent asking old tankers about their service.

[Noble713]

I'm 30.
US Army (active) 2003-05: Petroleum Supply in Korea
Florida National Guard 2005-2008: Light Infantry
US Marine Corps 2009-2013: Aviation Command and Control officer in Okinawa

Happily a civilian now.

I've not been playing SP long (<2 years), and didn't get seriously into it until a few weeks ago. It's a great complement/substitute for tabletop wargaming.