obat11 Russia

[miq]

I'm unable to fit the HMG platoon into any of the assigned vehicles (formations 509, 510, 511). I've got the same issue with MMG formations 67 and 503 when selecting BTR-82(A).

Unit 872 with NSV should be named MT-LBVM, "V" is just for wide tracks. Source: https://medium.com/@Monk_of_War/the-endlessly-adaptable-mt-lb-has-been-the-soviet-and-russian-armys-all-terrain-pack-horse-and-63fe4fa13023

RPG-22 (weapon 26) should be named "Netto".

[DRG]

Will investigate. Those formations have been like that at least a decade....... Ahh.... I see now the teams were originally 3 men and are now 4....looks like 3-4 years ago but no time to dig further ATM

[DRG]

The full solution will have to wait for whenever we update the game again but if you do not PBEM and don't think you ever will you can easily fix this exactly the way I fixed it

First off this little "problem" goes back to a change made in 2012 so obviously few people use those armoured HMG formations otherwise we would have heard about this sooner

The armoured HMG formations are stand-alone's so they are not used as part of a larger formation so fixing is simple

In the master OOB they now look like this......

509 HMG Sec /APC
510 HMG Sec /BMP
511 HMG Sec /Lt APC

so they are "sections" not platoons and you create that by removing the template transport vehicle from the fourth slot and put it in the third slot leaving you with 2 HMG teams per vehicle instead of 3 then you change Plt to Sec for the formation name and the "problem" goes away

Then change BTR-82's from 108 carry to 109 carry.....that *may* be incorrect to some but it's what works.....it's a game not reality and we cannot break up units like can be done in reality so sometimes we have to bend reality and that is what it takes to make MG Pl /APC work using the BTR-82's

The other two name adjustments have been made as well

[MarkSheppard]

While researching the immediate post-war Soviet Airborne Units, I discovered the detailed conversions of the Tu-4 bomber into airborne transports.

They developed the Tu-4D and associated "cabins" (giant drop tanks), and Factory no.23 converted 100 to 300 (sources differ) Tu-4 into this configuration starting 1955.

https://i.imgur.com/uemi9EU.jpg
early test of a P-90 cockpit with ZIS-2 cannon

When equipped with two loaded cabins, each with either a SD-44 self propelled gun, or a ASU-57, the Tu-4D had a 800~ km (500 mile) radius of action.

Apparently the system was only in service for a very short period of time -- 1956 to about 1958 -- because at this point the turboprop powered An-8 and An-12 arrived with "roll off" cargo doors.

[DRG]

It's interesting, but all things considered, I think I will give adding it to the OOB a pass

[MarkSheppard]

Understandable, since there are so few free slots now, and Russia's notorious for adding new "improved" equipment into service at a rapid clip.

[RC4]

A good information site with many TO&E and info
https://www.battleorder.org/military-organization

[Suhiir]

A good information site with many TO&E and info

VERY useful and apparently up-to-date.

[blazejos]

Great photo of soviet recruits training with RPG-7 late sixties/ early seventies
https://v.wpimg.pl/MDg0MTIwYiUGUjtnZgxvMEUKbz0gVWFmEhJ3dmY4YnJTBDVgcU BiIg5cKCYsByJqAEI4JCgAPWoXXGI1OR5iMlYfKT06ByElHh8o OSsSKWtRVnhgLxF0fUpWezB8WnkiUwNgNi0TfmlVBXVme0YvIA IJdDVrCg

[Pibwl]

409 Igla-1 SAM - weapon #143 9M313 Igla-1 has the same accuracy 118 as later #132 9M39 Igla, while Igla-1 was a transitional simpler first version, so it should be somewhere between #131 9M36 Strela-3 (80) and Igla.

412 Igla SAM, 770, 771 Igla-S SAM - the photo is old Strela-2 - photo 45374 of Igla-1 or 13352 of Verba is better option.
Or there is Igla: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1a/0f/82/1a0f8299c27a04c1e0fefba99bc0ed33.jpg
BTW, here is Verba with IFF 1L229V module https://www.kbm.ru/local/images/kbm/_2_jpg_jpg_1469427260.jpg


351 Mi-6 - according to Russian sources, only part of helicopters were armed, but it was only one MG.

352, 353 Mi-26 - there aren't known armed Mi-26

[Pibwl]

I didn't want to start a new topic, but I've found some related info on Slovak oob51 . It uses the only MANPADS: 061 Igla Team since 1993. Photo is Strela, as above.

According to Slovak MOD magazine "Obrana" 3/2012 published in the web, Slovakia initially from 1993 should have Strela-2 (Czechoslovak 074 unit), withdrawn from regular use some time before 2012 (still used for training).
According to article in Polish "Nowa Technika Wojskowa", 9K38 Igla were acquired by Slovakia only in late 1997 (according to https://www.armedconflicts.com/9K38-Igla-t9092 from 5/96, which I can't verify - it says about transitional 9K310 Igla-1, but Slovak MOD sources mention 9K38).

(BTW: Russian designations are confusing, because 9K38 Igla is the whole system, while the missile is 9M39 - as we use it in weapon's name)

[MarkSheppard]

Found bug while making a UKR v RUS battle on a winter map:

BTR-70 Winter Icon (4225) (at least I think that is the number) -- on this, parts of the gray winter camo flash on/off with the river/water cycle.

[DRG]

I know why it would do that and will correct it.

[DRG]

Now it won't do that......

[blazejos]

Info about specialised Russian vehicle used probably by Wagner group PMC

Ural Shchuka quite similarly visually to older BTR-152 but on Ural 432007-0111-31 truck and with tower from BTR-70

https://en.defence-ua.com/media/contentimages/eb06298bb0b9c9c5.webp

https://en.defence-ua.com/news/wagner_military_group_use_a_rare_reincarnation_of_ the_soviet_btr_152_in_ukraine-3163.html

KAMAZ Kamikaze truck

Ordinary truck in post Soviet Union area KAMAZ here used as Kamikaze vehicle drone

https://en.defence-ua.com/media/illustration/articles/c9d62ed4d5f18b19.jpg
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/russians_made_up_a_kamikaze_truck_and_directed_it_ toward_ukrainian_positions-3783.html

[blazejos]

According to this article in Russia they are still in usage Beriev Be-12 Chayka they were use to patrol and spot eventual sabotage groups around Crhttps://en.defence-ua.com/industries/russia_uses_be_12_maritime_patrol_aircraft_to_prev ent_explosions_in_crimea-3947.htmlimea in last August after famous attack on airfield there.


https://en.defence-ua.com/media/illustration/articles/4f063008491e68d8.jpg

https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2017/01/12/beriev-be-12-tchaika-mail-mail-is-the-nato-denomination/

[cbreedon]

Looking to add in Wagner and other PMC's. What does everyone think about morale and experience ratings? I guess there should be a pre war and now version. Pre war having higher ratings in both and the opposite now.

[Suhiir]

From what little I know about Russian mercenaries I'd say higher experience (+5 or 10) then default Russians but lower morale (-5 or 10). Mercenaries are there to collect a paycheck NOT die for their country.