Windows 11

[DRG]

An FYI I just received from Shrapnel Games.



As you may or may not know, Windows 11 will be introduced on October 5. Anyone who has researched this should know that many vendors will not be supporting Windows 11 for several months and I think it is smart for the average computer user to not immediately convert over. A 3 month wait seems reasonable as Microsoft always has trouble with initial releases. However, if you are on the download service for updates, the new version will probably be installed automatically. Maybe a post in the forums would help. Just a service for our users to let them know what is what.



Again.... just FYI

[Imp]

Thanks wonder just how much extra space it will require to run this time.

[Mobhack]

I'll just pass on the "opportunity" to "upgrade" for free for as long as possible, like with windows 10 before it.

Best to let the "eager beavers" download it when all new and shiny and find out about the problems it'll bring!

[WilliamB]

Has anyone tried running the game on Windows 11 yet? I need to get a new laptop in the next month or so and I would like to know if it will work.

[Karagin]

Haven't seen any updates to Win11 come across the computer yet myself.

[DRG]

I just discovered my computer does not have two required prerequisites so I'll be sticking win win10 for awile

[Imp]

I am guessing lucky you.

[DRG]

I am interested in the reputed ability to run android apps.....someday (maybe.......).
I don't own a "smart phone" because I don't need or want one but there are apps that only run things from a phone and the ability to run the app from the PC is intriguing but I will wait until both are proven to work properly

[Karagin]

I too found out my computer isn't set up for Win11, I was having issues with an app on the damn machine and was checking why it was not working right and checked the updates and found a BIG red warning. Had to laugh given all the issues I have at getting that big update to Win10 last year or the year before.

[Imp]

I am interested in the reputed ability to run android apps.....someday (maybe.......).
I don't own a "smart phone" because I don't need or want one but there are apps that only run things from a phone and the ability to run the app from the PC is intriguing but I will wait until both are proven to work properly

Not at my computer away for a few weeks so seen no update notifications. The windows update may just allow you to play the apps on your phone so in your case pointless.

https://au.pcmag.com/blackberry-apps/68249/4-free-ways-to-run-android-apps-on-your-pc
Try the above I used Bluestacks and it worked perfectly. Not saying it’s the best option it was just the one I tried.

[DRG]

Interesting.... that article states.......


Microsoft is working on expanding this feature even further, with the ability to pin Android apps on your taskbar and launch them individually, as long as your phone and computer are connected.

Which defeats the purpose I had hoped to use it for so I may give one of these a try. We recently bought a "smart" washer/dryer pair that has features only accessible using a phone.....albeit ones we would rarely need to use plus our thermostat has features you need a phone to access...again, ones that I would rarely need which is why I was intrigued by win 11..... not so much now.

[whdonnelly]

Just finished playing a few turns after the Windows 11 update. So far there are no bad issues, seems to run a little smoother. More research to follow.

[WilliamB]

My new laptop arrived yesterday. I've only installed WinSPMBT so far and it seems to work all right on Windows 11. Will post if any problems occur.

[DRG]

Good news

[Rake]

Curious if there have been any updates for this... I am considering a new machine and it will likely come with Win 11.

Has anyone run WinSP on Windows 11 yet?

[WilliamB]

My HP laptop has Windows 11 and WinSPMBT works fine. No problems with WinSPWW2 either.

[Uncle_Joe]

It actually runs better on my new Win11 machine than it did on my Win10 machine. I can't use Desktop resolution but the 1600x1280 works great.

[rjantzi]

Hi all. I recently got a new HP laptop that came with Win 11 pre-installed. I own the CD version of both winSPMBT and winSPWW2 and I've installed both on the new computer. The only oddity I've noted is that when I run using "Desktop" resolution (which is 1920 x 1080) the taskbar covers, very slightly, the information at the bottom of the screen. The taskbar is locked. The attached screenshot shows what I see. I am able to run the games at a lower resolution but I would like to use the "Desktop" setting so that I can use my full screen size. I'd appreciate any suggestions you may have to help with this. Thanks

https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16784&stc=1&d=1660728855

[Mobhack]

Try the windows taskbar settings - does windows 11 still have the choice of large or small taskbar buttons? - if so, use the other ones (small instead of large, say).

[DRG]

For me, running the "Use small taskbar icon" OFF in win10 gives not quite, but close the same as shown in that screenshot so try using "Use small taskbar icon" ON in Taskbar settings

[WilliamB]

You can't change the size of the taskbar in Windows 11, but there are programs available that will allow you to do it. I use one called RoundedTB. The other option is to download a registry hack to make the taskbar smaller
.

[DRG]

Seriously ? You cannot change the size of the taskbar icons in win11 ?....... another reason to give it a pass

[rjantzi]

Thank you both for your replies. Win11 doesn't make it as easy to edit the taskbar icon sizes. From what I can find online this requires editing the registry to change, which is something I really don't want to do. A simpler solution is to reduce the Display Settings scale from 125% down to 100%. This allows me to use the Desktop resolution and see the entire screen. The downside is that the text is quite small but is still readable.

[Mobhack]

I already use a tweaker for the start menu for windows 10 (classic shell) to replace the useless bodge microsoft foisted on us and regain a windows-XP style start menu.

I think there are tweakers out there that let you fiddle with the windows 11 task bar - I believe you can replace its little strip smack in the middle of the screen with a proper full-screen width taskbar, and also something like classic shell exists to replace the start menu with a classic one.

Not going near windows 11 till I absolutely have to, so have not really investigated tweakers. And since I have recently bought a brand new PC, it will stay windows 10 till whenever support stops (2025?). I switched off the TPM(?) module in the BIOS, so the windows 11 update thinks it can't be replaced with 11 so no auto-update bork where it sneaks it in all unexpectedly:D!

[geoff]

I don't have any experience with windows 11, I'm still on windows 10. I use the desktop resolution setting, and I find that every time I start the game I have to move the game window up a tiny bit because the bottom part of the message screen is a hidden behind the taskbar, though not a much as yours is. I can click and hold on the top window margin and move it up a fraction. (I don't regard this as a bug, it's just something I do every time I start the game. No big deal.)

I have the "scale and layout" setting on windows set to 125%.

[Karagin]

I don't have any experience with windows 11, I'm still on windows 10. I use the desktop resolution setting, and I find that every time I start the game I have to move the game window up a tiny bit because the bottom part of the message screen is a hidden behind the taskbar, though not a much as yours is. I can click and hold on the top window margin and move it up a fraction. (I don't regard this as a bug, it's just something I do every time I start the game. No big deal.)

I have the "scale and layout" setting on windows set to 125%.

I too have this same issue. So when the game opens to the pick a scenario screen etc...I move it up a bit then.

[DRG]

This is what I see when I run MBT and I use small Icons on the taskbar

https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16785&stc=1&d=1660839975

.....and that's pretty much the way it's always been on this computer and the CRV monitor that this machine replaced. I had no idea some people had to make wee adjustments like that.......... but, that is one of the joys/quirks about PC's..... everyone has a different combination of components and they don't all work 100% the same way

[rjantzi]

Thanks for all the feedback. I'm sorted out now. I can run the game at either 100% or 125% and, with the minor adjustment in screen position, see everything.

[WilliamB]

Installed the 22h2 version this morning. Everything seems to be working so far.

[Nitro Cruiser]

As the October push to end Windows 10 support comes up, some people might find they are unable to upgrade their PC. If your PC is not too old (around 2018 or newer), I would urge people to check to see if they have a TPM (hardware or software) installed that just might just not be enabled. A disabled TPM will show an incompatibility for the new OS, but if you have it, enabling it will correct the problem. It must be enabled in your BIOS (newer PC's have a UEFI) settings. Refer to your PC or Motherboard manual if you need to see if you have it and how to enable it. It might be named slightly different. I did a new PC build in 2022, and was getting the 'Can't upgrade to Win 11' message. It was disabled by default. I had to enable the TPM, and now it's good to go. Check before you pony up for a new PC.

[WilliamB]

I have a question for anyone using Windows 11. I tried to add a couple of icons for prototype U.S. tanks that I have downloaded over the years to RecruitMonty's Das Reich mod with SHPEdit. The icons appear correctly in WinSPMBT, but are distorted in MOBHack. I tried adding some other icons to my clean install of the game and had the same result. Has anyone else had this happen?

[WilliamB]

This is a screen shot of what I mean. Forgot to add it to my previous post.

[Mobhack]

No idea, other than something is different (but still compatible with the game) structurally in those SHPs. It may be something as simple as being an odd number of pixels wider or higher etc when the mobhack SHP code is expecting even row or column counts, say. Check the height and width of them compared to icon sizes we use perhaps?

(The Mobhack SHP code is some Delphi that a user (I cannot recollect who now) provided to me waay back in the MSDOS days as a library package and I have absolutely no idea what it is doing internally, I just happily used it "cuz it works"! :happy:)

[DRG]

Post the original Turret and Hull icons you show in post 32 here the same way they were entered into the SHP file and not as a screenshot taken from Mobhack. Better still, zip up both the hull and turret SHPs to that icon and post them on this thread

I have seen similar results like that in in the past, but I want the original SHP for the Turret and the Hull

[WilliamB]

Here it is. I used Icon0116.shp, the icon number is 4255. I have also included the .bmp files.

[scorpio_rocks]

the .bmp files are too small they need to be 89x89 pixels.

(the problem usually occurs when you get mobhack to export images then edit them [as mobhack gives a 88x88 image] and re insert).

add a single pixel column and row of "pink" to the image and re import.

Should (fingers crossed) work

[DRG]

Scorpio is 100% correct. 88x88 will do that and both that hull and turret are 88x88

Make them 89x89 then put them back in their SHP file
Don

[WilliamB]

Thank you DRG and scorpio rocks, this fixed the problem! Sorry to bother you with this DRG. I know what your are dealing with at the moment. I've put dozens of icons that I have downloaded from the Mods page into my personal versions of WinSPMBT and WinSPWW2 over the years and this is the first time I have had this happen. I was afraid that the March cumulative update for Windows 11 had screwed up SHPEdit. Get well soon DRG.