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Wdll
October 18th, 2022, 07:20 AM
Greece just received the first 6 of about 40 (for now) Marder 1A3 from Germany.
Part of an exchange of giving equal number of BMP-1 to Ukraine.
Article (in Greek) and photos of them in Greece in the following URL. (major Greek newspaper/site)
https://www.protothema.gr/greece/article/1297319/stin-ellada-ta-prota-exi-tethorakismena-ohimata-mahis-marder-1a3/
According to the info they are going to supplement the MBT in the Greecce-Turkey border in Thrace. Mechanized infantry duties.
I don't know if the paint job is the final one or not.
Aeraaa
October 19th, 2022, 01:41 PM
At last. After so many years, we wont have to ride vehicles my dad and uncle had in their duty.
DRG
October 19th, 2022, 02:36 PM
Greece just received the first 6 of about 40 (for now) Marder 1A3 from Germany.
Part of an exchange of giving equal number of BMP-1 to Ukraine.
Article (in Greek) and photos of them in Greece in the following URL. (major Greek newspaper/site)
https://www.protothema.gr/greece/article/1297319/stin-ellada-ta-prota-exi-tethorakismena-ohimata-mahis-marder-1a3/
According to the info they are going to supplement the MBT in the Greecce-Turkey border in Thrace. Mechanized infantry duties.
I don't know if the paint job is the final one or not.
Just below that article is one posted yesterday........
https://www.protothema.gr/world/article/1296778/polemos-stin-oukrania-giati-katerreuse-se-okto-mines-o-kokkinos-stratos/
Wdll
October 19th, 2022, 05:54 PM
Greece just received the first 6 of about 40 (for now) Marder 1A3 from Germany.
Part of an exchange of giving equal number of BMP-1 to Ukraine.
Article (in Greek) and photos of them in Greece in the following URL. (major Greek newspaper/site)
https://www.protothema.gr/greece/article/1297319/stin-ellada-ta-prota-exi-tethorakismena-ohimata-mahis-marder-1a3/
According to the info they are going to supplement the MBT in the Greecce-Turkey border in Thrace. Mechanized infantry duties.
I don't know if the paint job is the final one or not.
Just below that article is one posted yesterday........
https://www.protothema.gr/world/article/1296778/polemos-stin-oukrania-giati-katerreuse-se-okto-mines-o-kokkinos-stratos/
Yes, it talks about why Russia failed so far in Ukraine. Or how in particular the "red army" collapsed in 8 months. I am sorry, was there a question about it?
DRG
October 19th, 2022, 06:49 PM
No. I was just pointing out its existance. Google translators work quite well
Wdll
October 19th, 2022, 07:29 PM
No. I was just pointing out its existance. Google translators work quite well
OK, cool.
blazejos
October 20th, 2022, 04:17 AM
Article from Ukrainian side which confirm deliveries of BMP-1 from Greece
They mention about two version's
BMP-1A1 Ost (1991 German modification of BMP-1P with 50. HMG)
BMP-1 with ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft gun
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/greece_begins_supplying_infantry_combat_vehicles_t o_ukraine-4590.html
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/greece-starts-shipping-the-bmp-1-ifvs-to-ukraine/
Aeraaa
October 20th, 2022, 01:14 PM
Article from Ukrainian side which confirm deliveries of BMP-1 from Greece
They mention about two version's
BMP-1A1 Ost (1991 German modification of BMP-1P with 50. HMG)
BMP-1 with ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft gun
https://en.defence-ua.com/news/greece_begins_supplying_infantry_combat_vehicles_t o_ukraine-4590.html
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/greece-starts-shipping-the-bmp-1-ifvs-to-ukraine/
Yeah, the second modification is a local one and it makes the vehicle slightly more useful.
DRG
October 20th, 2022, 06:53 PM
Yes but are they being sent to Ukraine?
FASTBOAT TOUGH
October 21st, 2022, 02:05 AM
Articles I have been saying the exchange will happen during the exchange for the Marder A3. Greece is indicating they want those Marder's integrated into their units alongside their LEOPARDS.
You'll note I've been tracking this since May/June.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_june_2022_global_security_army_indust ry/greece_to_donate_bmp-1p_tracked_armored_ifvs_to_ukraine_in_exchange_for _german_marder_1a3/1a5_ifvs.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_october_2022_global_security_army_ind ustry/first_marder_1a3_ifvs_for_hellenic_army_arrive_in_ greece.html
This will be a 40 for 40 swap in 3-way deal.
Also, the pictures in ref. 2 clearly show the Milan ATGW launchers have been removed from the now Greek Marder's.
Also, more on bottom on the Greek BMP-1A1 with a picture of one that looks more like an American made Browning .50 Cal MG mounted on it.
See the German Marder pictured in ref. 1 w/Milan installed.
Regards,
Pat
:capt:
blazejos
October 21st, 2022, 03:42 AM
BMP-1A1 Ost and T-72 may deserve also to apear in West German OOB in years 1991-1994 before whole equipment was sold aboard or send to museums they were use in Heimatschutzbrigade's of former NVA which in that times were part of German unified army. That is why this western modifications were done to former soviet origin equipment.
https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/bmp-1a1-ost/
https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/qwm08s/bmp1a1_ost_an_ifv_inherited_by_the_bundeswehr/
https://i.redd.it/l14zzgnfnb081.png
Wdll
October 21st, 2022, 05:09 AM
Articles I have been saying the exchange will happen during the exchange for the Marder A3. Greece is indicating they want those Marder's integrated into their units alongside their LEOPARDS.
You'll note I've been tracking this since May/June.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_june_2022_global_security_army_indust ry/greece_to_donate_bmp-1p_tracked_armored_ifvs_to_ukraine_in_exchange_for _german_marder_1a3/1a5_ifvs.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_october_2022_global_security_army_ind ustry/first_marder_1a3_ifvs_for_hellenic_army_arrive_in_ greece.html
This will be a 40 for 40 swap in 3-way deal.
Also, the pictures in ref. 2 clearly show the Milan ATGW launchers have been removed from the now Greek Marder's.
Also, more on bottom on the Greek BMP-1A1 with a picture of one that looks more like an American made Browning .50 Cal MG mounted on it.
See the German Marder pictured in ref. 1 w/Milan installed.
Regards,
Pat
:capt:
The Marders were not shipped with the weapons on them. Those will be added later...
Wdll
October 27th, 2022, 05:21 AM
A new video showing the Marders with their new colors.
https://youtu.be/ZPZmztP07nA?t=95
DRG
October 27th, 2022, 07:40 AM
Not perfect but not German camo
https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16801&stc=1&d=1666870785
Wdll
October 27th, 2022, 10:10 AM
Not perfect but not German camo
https://forum.shrapnelgames.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=16801&stc=1&d=1666870785
That was fast. :)
Wdll
October 28th, 2022, 03:34 PM
JFYI, there is an article which has few good photos from today's parade where one can see them even better. I am not going to upload the photos as it doesn't feel right.
https://www.ptisidiastima.com/analysis-marder-1a3-where-should-go-islands-or-evros/
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